Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - INDIANAPOLIS COLTS CAMP, Day 3: Anthony Richardson's Best Day SPARKED By Tyler Warren

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

The Indianapolis Colts' QB battle got some life Friday as Anthony Richardson turned in his best day yet. Jake explains why Richardson stood out and how rookie TE Tyler Warren was a big reason for it. ...Meanwhile, how did Daniel Jones look?Lou Anarumo's defense continued to show its teeth and began to display some more variety. Become a Locked On Colts insider! Ask your burning questions and get prompt answers from someone who's around the team every day! Get special access from the locker room, practice field, and press box! JOIN HERE! Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQLocked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-nfl/ Follow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram! Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Yahoo FantasyPresented by YahooFantasy #YahooPartner. Play Now at yahoofantasy.com/lockedonnflRugiet150,000 men have made the switch →https://Rugiet.com/LOCKEDONNFLUse code LOCKEDONNFL to get 15% off your order!BetterhelpThis episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Your well-being is worth it. Visit BetterHelp.com/lockedonnfl today to get 10% off your first month. GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get $150 in BONUS BETS when your first $5 BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable free bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNFL at monarchmoney.com/lockedonnfl for 50% off your first year.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Day 3 of training camp is finally in the books and we might actually have one quarterback pulling ahead in the quarterback competition. Let's get to it. You are locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily one stop shop for all of your training camp coverage across the Indianapolis Colts team.
Starting point is 00:00:37 This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account and use code locked on NFL for twenty dollars off of your first purchase. Hello, everyone. My name is Zach Hicks, your resident film nerd over at Horseshoe huddle dot com, and my partner, as always, is Jake Arthur. Our credentialed sandals on the ground for the site. Again, I'm trying to trying to fix this up to to meet the the weather that's happening
Starting point is 00:01:06 You're trying to guess my footwear It's a little bit weird, you know, it's a little weird, but that's just who I am as a person at this point You guys have to learn to love it here. But guys we have our typical training camp coverage show come in your way We're talking all about news notes in the quarterback debate quarterback battle that's happening in camp. Then we have all offense and all defense. Before we get into this quarterback competition though, let's talk about injuries and news and notes. No new injuries today. Zyra Franklin still the lone injury holdout for Colts camp. Again, hopefully we can get him back before August, but we'll see just how long he is on the sideline the Colts again remain optimistic about him
Starting point is 00:01:48 getting back fairly soon a couple veteran rest days which I know all of you guys in the comments section absolutely love so Charvarius Ward Sanson FU comm Mo Ali Cox and Grover Stewart all set you guys know my opinion on this I'm perfectly fine with it but But again, I know, I know a lot of you guys don't love it. I will say one thing that we can really sparse from this info is these guys who are sitting for better and rest days, probably roster locks on your final 53 man rosters. So I hope you guys have penciled these players in as making the team Jake that one's specifically for you, letting you know that Mo Ali Cox will be back on this team this year.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And then one more note you had in here, Jake, was no Jack Wilson today. Now, Jack Wilson, I believe, is like the sixth offensive tackle. I believe the really massive offensive tackle. Right. Right, Jake. Yeah, I was getting frustrated this morning because I didn't know why I wouldn't be able to see him because he is literally the tallest guy on the team. I think they have him listed at 6'11". I don't want to speculate, but he did get in a couple kerfuffles yesterday with Isaiah Land, and he was not out there today.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And then I confirmed all the other guys were veteran rest days. So, I don't know. We'll see if Jack Wilson's out there tomorrow. But yeah, that's pretty much it for the absences. And pretty notable to a Jack Wilson is I can't even ask you, like, are you sure you just didn't miss him because this is like a seven foot man on the team? Yeah. So you would probably notice if he was out there or not.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So, yeah, we'll we'll keep an eye out. Maybe that will be like a release from the Colts make a move in the next couple of days or something like that. We'll keep an eye out on that. But let's get from the Colts make a move in the next couple days or something like that We'll keep an eye out on that, but let's get to the quarterbacks Jake because Through day one and day two you came on the show post practice and said Yeah, both guys were kind of up and down. No real guy has separated Jones has been a bit more steady, but just kind of meh like on a scale of one to ten He's been like a five through two days Richardson a bit more volatile with some highs and lows, especially yesterday
Starting point is 00:03:49 talking about the best throw of camp along with the worst throw of camp. But today you had it in your post practice notebook. I saw it from a lot of beat reporters. It seemed like this was Anthony Richardson's day. I mean, the completion percentage numbers in practice were good, but just looking aside that the eye test told you guys Richardson had a pretty good day, right? Yeah, absolutely. And that's not to say that he had like a great day, but it was his best day that we've seen so far. Like he still had his his plays that he would want back. Like one area I'm really starting to think he's going to struggle at for a bit is like just throwing these simple short out routes.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Like when he throws them to his right, they typically go short, but when he throws them to his left, they sail on him. So those are things he's got to work out. Like he can make the throws, but it's like he's still figuring out. So he also had one that was almost like an arm punt. I legitimately didn't know if he was just getting rid of the ball or not, but he was under pressure and just launched it downfield to Alec Pierce, but it was way uncatchable. But other than that, like what I was most kind of thrilled to see from him is he was taking the check downs. He was taking the layups, which is something everyone's been screaming at him for two years now is this doesn't always have to be a chunk pass play every time like that's why you get the horrendous completion percentage.
Starting point is 00:05:13 That's why your average depth of target is like three yards beyond anyone else in the NFL. It cannot sustain rhythm in a passing game and drives die easily that way. So to see him do this and to rely on guys who gets it one thing if you throw in to DJ Montgomery a bunch, right? Guys who aren't really gonna contribute throughout a season, but he's finding Tyler Warren. He's going to guy like Josh Downs, Michael Pittman Jr.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He's going to guys who he would need to connect with in the season. And it wasn't it wasn't always pretty, but he was getting it. He was getting it to where his receiver could catch it and advance the ball, keep the drive moving, keep the rhythm going. And again, it's been a while since we've seen a stat line of like eight of 11 passing from him. That is night and day from even what the first two days had been. So it's like, dude, we know you can go downfield. No problem there. He even said that the other day.
Starting point is 00:06:12 He really is trying to be intentional about working on the short stuff. And that is what they really, really need from him if he was to get onto the field in the regular season. To win the starting job, I think that is like the biggest thing they need to see from him. I mean, like obviously keeping up his high level of preparation and leadership and looking the part of a quarterback behind the scenes. They need to see some just ability drive to drive like it cannot be all just
Starting point is 00:06:42 gung ho boomer bus like there has to be some boring stuff mixed into his game other than incomplete deep passes, you know? Yeah. And it's always good to hear about him getting in a rhythm and just, you know, again, stringing together good throws because we've seen moments of him doing that in the NFL, but it typically comes at the very end of games when he's finally out of his own head. He's finally able just to play football like we know he can. It's just getting in that quicksand early in games, we need him to just find that rhythm he finds late in games, rather than that quicksand
Starting point is 00:07:13 that he finds early in games, and making these mechanical changes more natural for himself. Because like you mentioned, you know, he's still struggling with those outroutes. I think that is more mechanical. But again, you can live with some mechanical issues as long as the feeling with him is natural. Cause the more that you think about things, the more that you over-correct and the more that you just have one bad miss turn into six bad misses in a row,
Starting point is 00:07:36 instead of it being one bad miss and then moving to the next play. You know, have this be a natural thing. You can have regressions in your natural movement every now and then. But when you have a bad moment and you're overthinking and it's not natural, and it leads to again, just six bad mechanical throws in a row, that's when we have our issue. And that's what has happened with Richardson these last couple years. So it's good to hear that he was able to find a rhythm, get things going. And hopefully that carries over to the padded practices and over to the preseason. Now getting to Daniel Jones, though. I saw a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:07 Talk from beat reporters on social media some beat reporters who were even pretty high on Daniel Jones coming in this year That didn't have a lot of love now you have his completions in your at seven of ten today But it seems like the eye test today with Daniel Jones wasn't as good as what the completion percentage numbers look like. How would you describe him looking out there maybe compared to like a Gardner-Mintchew last year or Matt Ryan in 2022 or Joe Flacco last year? I guess Gardner-Mintchew two years ago, Joe Flacco last year. How would you describe how he looked out there today maybe to pass veteran quarterback that we've had here in Indy?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, so I don't want to take away the fact that he was seven of 10, like that's 70% completions. That's great. Like that's the bar you should keep during training camp. But we knew he could do the dump offs and the short stuff and all that. But I think when you put context to this, the Colts the first couple of days had been working on,
Starting point is 00:09:02 there was a lot of RPO and run stuff and first and second down stuff that really like caters to him and his skillset, like quick reads, boom, get rid of the ball right now. He had to go through more reads and stuff today. And again, seven to 10, but I did not think it looked great. Um, there were four separate instances where there were comeback routes by the receiver from like five to ten yards out, you know, seven yards or so. Four times he was late getting it there and the defender was there to blow up the play at the catch point.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So what we're seeing right now is he's staring down receivers, he's a little late getting to it, and he's not setting his feet when he throws. It is very reminiscent of Gardner Mentsch or you ask if there was any comparison. This is very Gardner Mentsch you ask. Now to his credit, you're getting a little more downfield action from Daniel too. He's more willing to push it downfield, which I asked him about the other day and he never really seemed to think it was an issue in his game. Um, but yeah, it's, it's giving Gardner mensch you right now. I'm not going to take away the completion percentage from him because the goal
Starting point is 00:10:12 of passing the ball is to complete it. But there were some, there were some serious concerns I had after today about what year is this for him? Like six or something like things a veteran probably shouldn't be doing that we saw like very similar things from Gardner mentioned. Yeah. And real quick, cause I know we need to move out of this to the rest of the offense. But again,
Starting point is 00:10:33 I said it earlier in this segment that Daniel Jones is kind of like on a scale of one to 10, you're going to get like a five ish every day. You're going to get like a baseline of what's acceptable. And for Richardson, it's like, he'll teeter above it and teeter below it. Do you think that's kind of how these practices are playing out though, where it's like, okay, Jones is keeps giving you that steady just what's good enough. And it really comes down to what Richardson does in terms of can you get above that baseline
Starting point is 00:10:58 or is you going to fall below that baseline? Yeah, it whether it's fair or not, these guys are kind of graded on a different scale, because you already kind of know what to expect from Jones. So if he goes below that, then you get a little more critical because he's not often going to get above it. Anthony, you're just hoping he gets off the floor with with that ranking and gets it a little more consistency. You know, and again, he's a younger player. So like, there's a lot more room to grow in his game. So when he starts to scratch those things and practice, you're more willing to be like, Oh yeah, he's, you know, he's doing well. So yeah, these guys aren't necessarily being considered on, on the same scale. Again, like you have to kind of hold
Starting point is 00:11:41 them to a different standard one, where the stages they're at in their career, and two, like what their play style is like and what their strengths and weaknesses are. But yeah, you have to have a lot of context in how you kind of grade these guys each day. Gotcha, gotcha. Awesome, awesome. Speaking of context, guys,
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Starting point is 00:13:36 Okay, Zach. So it is day three of camp and the offense is still having some early camp problems that I'm sure is causing these coaches kind of pull their hair out for the second day in a row pre snap penalties, especially like ball starts. They've been an issue yesterday. There was two of them today. There was three, I think they were all with Anthony. Um, so that's kind of a common thing. You wonder if like maybe his cadence is confusing
Starting point is 00:14:05 or inconsistent or something. That is like a very minute part of the job to fans that you may not think of, but it's actually very important. Like when you're getting out of the huddle and getting to the play, guys gotta know what to expect. Just literally from their quarterback's voice. So yeah, it could be that it's worth asking about. I mean, Shane will talk tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I don't wanna like say that's definitely it. But when this penalty is following one guy, you kind of have to wonder. So yeah, that's stuff they gotta get cleaned up. But now to some positive vibes that I think everyone is gonna be pretty pleased to hear. First round pick tight end Tyler Warren is is he's looking the part guys. The first day there wasn't really much happening with him but
Starting point is 00:14:52 these last two days he's really turned it on. He looked really good in the spring like he stood out like a man amongst boys was making plays every day. Same thing today and he's helping make these quarterbacks look good too. Like he is making passes completed that oftentimes had no business being completed from both both quarterbacks. So he's been really good. He's been used most commonly so far as kind of an outlet. It's like a dump off option. We haven't seen like all this stuff testing the middle of the field that we know Shane really really wanted that will come
Starting point is 00:15:26 But right now he's like a safety blanket on the short stuff But I'm pretty pumped to see how the rest of his games are kind of unfurl here soon Yeah, that was gonna actually be my question for you is have we seen him like winning as a route runner or as a lot of? This just sitting in space coming back down from the zone defense behind him? Or what are we really seeing on these routes? I know you said state the security blanket, but can you go in more detail on that? Yeah, so it's been, there's been some design stuff
Starting point is 00:15:55 where like you see him rolling out from like the backfield or like, you know, I'm talking like from the line and coming out and he is like the intended target, like the first read for it. We're not seeing a lot of like him winning the route downfield yet. They're using him a lot on the shorter stuff as like a quick outlet. Again, today was really the first day where they were working on first, second and third down. So the playbook was a little more open. The first two days was so much skewed to the quick stuff, the RPOs, because they've got to work on that. But they're starting to broaden things out now.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I do think when we get to goal line here, eventually, maybe tomorrow, we'll see, or like red zone in general, that we're going to see them try and pit him more in the downfield passing game or just not at the line of scrimmage, essentially, because a lot of this has been within a few yards of line of scrimmage on the outside has been kind of his his hot zone so far so that stuff will come soon hopefully you know they rave about everything they can do with him so surely they're not just going to use him as an outlet but the quarterback seems super comfortable with him so far.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That's good. That's good. So like I honestly have no issues with him being the safety blanket or an underneath guy. I mean, that's what Josh Downs is. Josh Downs, a fantastic player for this Colts team. I'm just curious if we can see, you know, if we can see him win as a route runner in that area, if we can see him win with his athleticism, because in college, a lot of it was schemed up for him and he was great with that and I think he can be great with that with the Colts But I do want to see if he's got a little bit more in his game It's so early in training camp So we'll get a lot more but great to hear him getting involved in the Colts having a plan for him
Starting point is 00:17:37 Super early talking about some other younger weapons on this Colts offense though Maybe two guys who won't have the biggest role But again, they're showing out in camp just like they did last summer. 80 Mitchell, Anthony Gould, two rookies from that twenty twenty four class. I saw a lot of people writing about Anthony Gould today. It seems like he's been the star of training camp. I think it was obviously it was in your post practice notes. And I think Kevin Bowen as well also said, like, he looks like he's stepping up
Starting point is 00:18:03 as like a slot receiver for this team. I mean, the more the merrier when it comes to receiver depth, but what are we seeing from these two young players, Jake? Yes, they're kind of on opposite ends of the spectrum right now. Like AD has not yet turned it on. Okay. There's just been like some sloppy stuff. Like he's there's been a lot of 50 50 balls balls he's not winning like he's dropped one or two and I don't want to put all this on him because like a lot of it has just been poor quarterback play like when he's being targeted like just throws that aren't being put in an ideal spot for him to come down with it
Starting point is 00:18:39 but it's a lot of stuff we saw during the season. Like he's not making things go his way. You know what I mean? He's also been like slipping a lot, which something with the footwear, I don't know. Let's figure it out. It's the humidity, man. The humidity is getting the ground wet and everyone's sleeping. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, so I do expect AD to turn on at some point. Like when they put the pads on, they start going one-on-ones. Like he is one of the obvious winners of those drills. Yeah. So that will help. But I mean, you obviously want to see it in a team setting
Starting point is 00:19:11 with seven on sevens and 11 on 11s. So he's not really turned on yet, but Anthony Gould, back to that point, last summer we saw a lot of him just making plays downfield, like Joe Flack loved targeting him downfield. And that's kind of where his bread was buttered. But like KB mentioned, and I think I mentioned it in my notes as well, he is being used this summer in a more traditional slot receiver since if it's not a tight end like Anthony or Daniel Jones are finding him as an outlet
Starting point is 00:19:41 or like a quick option out of the slot. He's getting a lot of short stuff like he had had that 30 yard catch from Jones on day one. But other than that, like the vast majority of what he has done has been just real quick cleanup stuff, moving the chains, like stuff we see Josh Downs do during the regular season. So good to see them get, I mean, some they're building a backup slot option. I mean, I mean, I know like if they went to week one again with Josh Downs hurt again and probably 80 Mitchell that played but Anthony Gould is like a true slot type of player.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So if they needed to use him they could in that role plus again, he can stretch the field vertically. So I really like what I've seen from Anthony Gould. I've been mentioning it the last couple of shows. Like I understand there's a lot of mouths to feed, but if you can get him involved some way, like I think it's gonna be beneficial for them. Yeah, I mean, you look, we're gonna have an offense
Starting point is 00:20:38 with scheme touches for Warren, scheme touches for Mitchell, scheme touches for Downs. What's one more guy to scheme up some touches for and get some you can give him an end around jet sweep stuff like that You can do that. Yeah, you know, you have to get him out there for a couple other snaps So they won't anticipate it. But yeah, I completely agree really quick though before we get out of this Everyone's darling Riley Leonard. You have another note in here You told us all about his perfect throw downfield. They got tipped up to a Laquan Treadwell catch yesterday. Did he have another tipped catch out there today, Jake?
Starting point is 00:21:09 It was not tipped, but he was go. I think he was rolling out a little bit. He was targeting Albert Oquiboon him about 10 yards down the right side, but threw it behind him. This is actually an Oquiboon him highlight. So he reached behind him. So that's where the ball was and snagged it an elbow highlight. So he reached behind him, because that's where the ball was, and snagged it with one hand. Riley Leonard's gonna have like the best completion percentage,
Starting point is 00:21:31 and you're gonna push that out there, and it's all gonna be dudes making these crazy plays. I'll be obnoxious about it. People want Riley Leonard highlights. I'll tell you what happened. He has been a part of a couple improbable big plays a couple days in a row. He's been a part of them.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He's been getting them in the vicinity for guys to make big time plays. I mean, look, as a quarterback, you're a distributor, even though the pass is behind or low or whatever, as long as it gets where it needs to go, I guess. But there's your Riley Leonard update of the day. Coming up, guys, we're going to transition to the defense, where, yes, these quarterbacks had
Starting point is 00:22:03 pretty good days in terms of completing the ball. But again, the secondary is just all over the place, so we've got to talk about it. This episode is presented by Yahoo Fantasy. Fantasy football is back. So fire up the group chat, get your draft board ready, and buckle up for a season filled with breakouts, busts, and all the overreactions that we live for.
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Starting point is 00:23:37 And one thing I feel fairly confident in saying is that the defense is probably going to be the more consistent, strong suit of the team this year. I think they got some really good players. And again, I mentioned this yesterday, it's, I'm not just saying that it's a good group because they're doing well in camp right now. It's, it's just vindication of like players we already know are good are performing well in camp. So like why would you not think that this is going to go well? So I thought this was the first day that Lou kind of showed his cards a little bit more
Starting point is 00:24:16 like we've heard all offseason about how versatile his scheme is all the multiplicity and all that stuff and now that the focus became all three downs and like the playbook got opened up a little bit, I thought he threw a little bit more at the offense. We saw more three safety looks, you know, Rodney Thomas getting out there at the same time as Cam Bynum and Nick Cross, Nick Cross creeping up into the box,
Starting point is 00:24:39 saw some DB blitzes at one point. Just so happens you asked me yesterday if the defensive lineman had been moving around at all. I hadn't really noticed it, but today, JT Tuamoloao and Taekwon Lewis both were used inside and out. They did a lot of mixing personnel in certain packages. And so maybe that will be a decent part
Starting point is 00:25:03 of the defensive scheme. I know you said he traditionally doesn't do that a whole lot, but now we have seen that he is willing to do it. So starting to see Lou get a little more in his bag and show his cards a little bit. Awesome. That's always great to hear love Lou and Rumo just what he does with his defenses just just so fun to watch. It's gonna be really cool to watch with this team as they get into the November, December months as this defense figures out kind of the communication and everything on the back end,
Starting point is 00:25:30 just how good this past defense can be. I think it can be rock solid with the players they have as long as everyone stays healthy. We have a good question here from Rich. We don't go to the comments too much, but I think that's a good one. Rodney Thomas, I've heard some good things about him since mini camp, honestly, from from a lot of you guys. And again, you're saying he's rotating out there at the starters. Has Rodney Thomas kind of shown a little bit bounce back this this offseason? I think so. I mean, the the offense isn't testing it deep. And I think that's where you see a lot
Starting point is 00:26:01 of his warts come up downfield. So we'll see how that goes But I mean he made a nice pass breakup. I think it was yesterday or today So like I've noticed I've noticed really only positive things from him so far He's not like super stepping up, but he's not been a problem by any means so far So I mean if he can prove that he is You know a player that has utility in this scheme, and I think that's fine. Because I think a lot of us were discounting him me included in saying, okay, who's the third safety? Because obviously, Rodney Thomas is kind of run run out of time. But I mean, he's doing well so far, maybe he does fit loose scheme. fit loose game. Awesome. That's great to hear with Rodney Thomas there getting to the rest of the defensive backs. So Charvarius Ward got the veteran rest day. Kenny Moore was back out there, but who were the two starters on the outside alongside Kenny Moore? Was it Justin Wally? Was it Brent?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Was it Jones? You have so many defensive backs in the notes here, Jake. I might just just talk about all of them here. But I did want to ask you about what that starting rotation looked like with Charvarius Ward out. Yeah, so two important questions that we kind of were ending off with yesterday. Jalen Jones did finally get into the starting lineup with Ward out. And then for the third straight day, Justin Wally was out there with the ones.
Starting point is 00:27:19 So today it was Jones, Wally, and Kenny Moore. So I think it's a three man race at that outside corner spot. Yeah. Cornerback, too. I think that's the way they're playing it with Wally potentially having the inside track. But I think it seems like now that we have three practices in the books, it's like a true three horse race for that outside corner to spot. Yeah, I don't him being out there with the ones every day, I don't think is necessarily an indicator that he's definitely going to spot. Yeah, I don't him being out there with the ones every day. I don't think is necessarily an indicator
Starting point is 00:27:46 that he's definitely going to start, but I think they want to see as much of him as possible so they can at least make a very educated determination of whether he should start or not. So they're going to Jesus, that's a big bug. They're gonna know for sure whether they think he should be in the starting lineup or not. If I abruptly get up somewhere, I don't it went so fast. It was so big. I don't
Starting point is 00:28:10 even know what kind of bug it was on my wall. So yeah, not just nightmare stuff here. But the DBs did perform well, you know, Jalen Jones could have used a big day, kind of getting those starting reps for the first time had a couple of past breakups. I had mentioned the four times that Jones was late staring down guys and those comebacks and it just didn't work. Jones was able to break up a couple of those. I think it was against Pittman and then one was maybe doing. Womack got him as well. And so did Cameron Biden.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So that's where those four came from. Rookie Hunter Wohler, I think had a big day. Anthony threw a pass, about five, 10 yard pass out to Will Mallory and Wohler immediately blew him up. To Mallory's credit, he held onto it, but it was a huge hit. And I was a little surprised that the offense didn't take offense to it, but it was the backup hit. And I was a little surprised that the offense didn't
Starting point is 00:29:05 take offense to it, but it was, it was the backup. So maybe if it was the starters, they would have had a little more attitude to it. But, um, and then he came back and broke up another pass later in practice again against Will Mallory, kind of actually finishing it and getting the PBU on that one. So a lot of, a lot of big plays from the defensive backs today for sure. Awesome. Awesome. And then getting to the front seven here one. So a lot of big plays from the defensive backs today for sure. Awesome. Awesome. And then getting to the front seven here, you have a couple sacks in the notes, but I do have the one starter question of who was the other linebacker alongside Jalen Carlis today. It was a McGrone day.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Okay. Okay. So rotation there. It was mostly McGrone and Bocce. So it's pretty much them. Like, Aloubi did, at the end of practice, get in with the ones into that spot. But we've seen so much of Bocce and McGrone in that spot since the spring that it's hard to think that's not really the plan behind Franklin. Like, Franklin is the plan. But behind him, you're kind of looking
Starting point is 00:30:01 to see who is that other Mike going to be if he has to ever miss any time. So I think they like those guys a lot. The defensive line continued to get after I know I reported a few sack or like would be sacks yesterday. Lots who had a beautiful rep against Bernhard Reimann. I thought of you immediately because he used the cross chop and he dipped so well and got so much separation on that. Good. Got to Daniel Jones. DeForest Buckner came in for one. Gallimore has been, I mean, he's going to be the backup three tech, but you've seen him with the ones, the twos, the threes.
Starting point is 00:30:38 He got to Riley Leonard today for a sack with the third team. So those guys were out there getting productive. I like that two of those three sacks were from interior defensive linemen. That's good. Yeah, that's very good sign. And Jake, we are over the 31 minute mark. So I think we've run out of time to talk about the team. We're all out of time. I have a very important musing that you might actually like outside of the kicking game. But first I'll mention it. Uh, the kicking game really got started today and it didn't really get started. Well, I'll tell you. Um, so Spencer Schrader was four of six today.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He had makes from 34, 37, 42 and 45. His two misses were from 53 yards. Uh, Maddox Trujillo was three of five. He made him from 34, 37 or 45 and he missed from 42 and 53. This now comes the part where you will be interested because this is nerdy. So punt team stuff. I always like to keep track of who's getting reps in the the pump protector Which is the player who's actually like calling the the play calling the cadence and getting the ball back to the punter that was Daniel Scott and Ronnie Thomas Daniel Scott that made me feel like they might have their new Trevor Denbo. We'll see on that.
Starting point is 00:32:07 That's interesting. Daniel Scott and okay. He took the vast majority of those pump protector snaps today. So Daniel Scott there. And then again, Ronnie Thomas was the other one. If you are a wide receiver or a cornerback, you probably got snaps at Gunner today. But the first two were Ashton Doolin and Tyler Goodson. Oh, OK. Good. Yeah. Goodson showed some things last year as a Gunner and as a kick cover guy.
Starting point is 00:32:32 That's interesting. How many teams do you think have a running back as their Gunner? Probably not. He was the only one that it was. Otherwise it was all corners and wide receivers. That's it. Yeah. He really put himself into that conversation. Look, Tyler Goodson, big shout out to Tyler Goodson here. I know this is late in the show, but I need to make yourself like non-expendable. Like make yourself keep, give teams a reason to keep. It's a spider update.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I see it right now. It's not, I'm not enjoying this. We're about to jump off guys, but again, shout out to Tyler Goodson for making himself a player that's hard to cut by working so hard on special teams the last couple years. But guys, that is all we have for today and our post practice coverage. We'll be back here again tomorrow post practice. Yes, tomorrow, which means like the show will probably be like eight
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