Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts' Chris Ballard Declares QB Spot 'Open Competition'

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Indianapolis Colts GM Chris Ballard and head coach Shane Steichen spoke to the media today at the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine. Ballard declared the quarterback position as an "open competition." He also... gave updates on Ryan Kelly, Braden Smith, and more. The 2025 Indy Draft Guide is officially available for pre-orders! 225+ in-depth scouting reports, plus how each player fits the Indianapolis Colts. Pre-Order Now: https://draftguide.gumroad.com/l/indy25 Become a Locked On Colts insider! Ask your burning questions and get prompt answers from someone who's around the team every day! Get special access from the locker room, practice field, and press box! JOIN HERE! Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQLocked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-nfl/ Follow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram! Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!FanDuelRight now, new FanDuel customers can get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in Bonus Bets if your first FIVE DOLLAR bet wins! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable free bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Indianapolis Colts have an open competition at quarterback this offseason. Let's get to it. You are locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of every time. We're going to get you some Crocs one of these off seasons here. But today we're talking all about the NFL Combine. We haven't had the workouts at all today or any of the interviews or anything so far, but we did get to hear from Indianapolis Colts general manager Chris Ballard earlier this evening. So we're going to look at some of Chris Ballard's comments here in the presser, and then we're going to preview some of the first position groups that are going to be
Starting point is 00:01:07 working on the field on thursday and also the guys we're going to talk to tomorrow which is defensive line and linebacker so let's kick it off with this chris ballard press conference a press conference that many have described as a disaster for whatever reason i didn't yeah i guess that's what the sentiment is on social media right now is people calling the Chris Ballard press conference, a disaster and a whole lot of nothing and a lot of you know, a whole lot of talking about his days with the bears and stuff like that, which I, I guess he talked about Johnny or was it Johnny, Johnny Knox,
Starting point is 00:01:40 which is fun. Like I, I love Johnny Knox. So but yeah, one thing, he did say a couple other things though that i thought were intriguing and i wouldn't really call it a disaster and one of the big things obviously is continuing that rhetoric on the open competition at quarterback now i'm going to give you the floor here in a second jake but to me a lot of this is lip service i i don't think there's really much of a competition at quarterback and and maybe if it if there was an option out there to give competition at quarterback like maybe there were even like a sam darnold like last year level free agent maybe you could have a competition but the options are so bare that like whoever you bring in if you try to sell that as a competition to people this
Starting point is 00:02:26 offseason everyone's gonna look at you like come on like you know Zach Wilson the competition like I really Daniel Jones that's what Dustin says in the car like oh Daniel Jones real big competition you know like yeah I think it's a lot of lip service I think it's a lot of just preaching this to everyone on the team which is like no one's job is safe which I think it's a lot of just preaching this to everyone on the team, which is like no one's job is safe, which I think is perfectly fine. You know, like so I think it's fine to push this. But in reality, I don't think this is like a real open competition for the Colts this offseason. Yeah, I don't think this changed much for me in terms of how I see them approaching the quarterback position this offseason. I still think like highest outside
Starting point is 00:03:05 scenario you could shoot for is probably like Justin Fields but even then just the price tag like yeah I don't I don't think Sam Darnold is not a thing I don't think they're going to try and trade for Matthew Stafford no like I I think you're still looking at like a mid-level okay level person to bring in yeah like you're probably looking at the joe flacco gardner menchu level of quarterbacks again but maybe with someone with a little more juice yeah um but basically i i think they just want to keep anthony from being complacent and i don't i don't really think it's as much about anthony as much it is just the quarterback position in general like i think they're very well aware this isn't the offseason to need to try and change your franchise quarterback.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That's just not an option for them right now. Right. But they need to, if it's not Anthony, because like, let's say he plays spectacular. He has been injury prone. They have to prepare for that. So they just want in any game, all 17 games into the postseason if they're if something miraculous happens they want to have a playable quarterback each and every week yeah i mean it'll be someone on the tier of like a daniel jones it'll be someone like a mac jones or a trey lance who
Starting point is 00:04:17 kind of fits that same archetype yeah to be the backup behind richardson but if we're talking like true competition that's just not out there this offseason uh may i mean maybe you take guy in the draft but even if you take a guy like in round four or five that's not really gonna push your former fourth overall pick right unless the guy is just brock purdy from day one which is unlikely you know yeah that's lightning in a bottle you can only kind of hope to make that happen but yeah i don't i think the the biggest deal here is hearing qb competition like you immediately see two guys going head-to-head throughout training camp and they're not being like a leader in the doghouse or in the in the clubhouse until
Starting point is 00:04:56 late in the summer and i don't know if that's going to be the case like i think anthony is going to be every opportunity to retain being the starter. He just better not slip up is the thing. Yeah. I think that's more of what it was. It's like, Anthony, your job is not guaranteed. We need to kind of show you the leash or show you like,
Starting point is 00:05:13 you know, the horse racing, whatever, show them the whip a little bit. Like it's kind of what it is, you know, it's like, it's kind of like a soft threat to him in terms of,
Starting point is 00:05:21 you don't take this serious. We will get someone in here who can play, but for the most part, it's going to be his job but yeah quarterback comments aside because to me again it's a whole lot of kind of nothing to me here even when Ballard is trying to push this competition thing uh the more eye-opening comments were his comments about upcoming free agents or even guys on the roster and what it means for their status going forward uh so he did talk about how he's going to meet with Ryan Kelly's representatives later this week, and he's going to meet with Will Fries' representatives, I think, later this week
Starting point is 00:05:51 or early next week, I believe. And the tone on how he talked about those two guys when he did speak about meeting with the representatives with Fries, it felt like 100% they want him back. But it did seem like they'll see how the price tag goes with that one there. With Kelly, you didn't really get as much of that. It was more so like we're going to meet with him. Even when he said he met with him after the season, it was more so like non-football related. So I don't have a vibe 100% in terms of where they feel about Kelly.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Fries, I think they want him back, but I don't know if they're willing to go as high as what the price tag might be on the open market. Yeah. I know they definitely want fries back. I've, you know, conversations like this, where Chris is at a presser and even like some kind of just shooting the
Starting point is 00:06:38 ish stuff with people in the building, they want him back. It's, I think it's totally a price thing. You know, with the injury thing um you know with the injury you never know what the price tag is going to be on the open market but will fries is like legitimately a top 10 top 15 offensive free agent this year yeah like he if his medical is clear he's going to be coveted i think the colts want to be the ones to reap the rewards of that because
Starting point is 00:07:00 they drafted him in the seventh round they developed him they believed in him they let him start they don't want to let that kind of player go but there probably is a hard line of which they're willing to pay and they have like they have three offensive linemen and flux they have like 60 65 percent of their offensive line is a question mark right now i think a lot of it depends on each other you know what they're going're going to do with Ryan Kelly or Braden Smith or Will Frys depends on what they're going to do with each of the others. So I think for the right price, they would like them back. Now with Ryan Kelly, we have gotten answers at this press conference before in years past on whether or not they're going to move on from guys, or at least like reading the tea
Starting point is 00:07:41 leaves, we could get that. We knew in the past like eric ebron wasn't going to come back like frank gore wasn't going to come back gardener minchu gardener minchu wasn't going to come yeah and when i asked chris about ryan kelly i said you know it's been a while now have you guys met and kind of decided which way you're going to go and you know he said they're not yet that's next week i get the vibe it's more the door is not closed but like it's not fairly open right like ryan ryan go out there and find what's on the market for you let us know uh if the situation is right for us maybe we can do it but like
Starting point is 00:08:18 i don't think he's a huge priority for them but i don't think the door is closed yeah and like you you have mentioned to me off air uh they did talk about tanner bordellini's versatility of playing guard perhaps too it's like we know it easily makes sense for bordellini to be that replacement but he might need to be the replacement for wolf rise right yeah you never really know there uh and real quick before you have the segment here jake two other guys that kind of have their future up in the air a little bit right now i feel like we got a little bit more clarity on both of them, right? Tackle Braden Smith, who was currently under contract and on the roster to me.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I know a lot of people are taking this press conference as him being back, but to me, I didn't view it that way at all. The way I kind of viewed it was he's unlikely to be back. I'll let you kind of further go into that in a second here, Jake. And then Samson, if you come, I feel like this press conference gave us a lot of insight into he'll probably be back uh you know he was he brought up ebucom multiple times unprompted when asked about luana rumo and the defense so
Starting point is 00:09:15 it feels like it's very likely he'll be back which i think is kind of a crazy decision giving the achilles injury and his age but samson ebucom I think we'll be back. Brayden Smith based off this is press press, this press conference. I just don't see it happening. Yeah. So with Brayden real quick, Chris said he's healthy and he wants to play football. But the question was,
Starting point is 00:09:37 do you see him being a part of this team? Brayden's under contract right now. Yeah. If he was going to be a part of the team, Chris could have said, yeah, he's under contract that he feels good. Now wants to play football let's ride that wasn't the answer he said uh he's healthy or he's feeling good he wants to play football and we're going to
Starting point is 00:09:54 work through that now he's due nearly 20 million dollars this year right and when you know had personal issues which you know he's allowed to have that. That's not the thing here, but this is a business. So they have decisions to make of, is this guy ready to get $20 million from us this year? So I think that's up in the air. Like Ebby Kami mentioned that that's tough because Dio is also a free agent. So it's like, why are you going to do that? But we had a little sidebar with, with Chris Ballard after his presser i got the impression that they want to keep dio again probably for the right price you know dio has position versatility and in the nfl right now that can command a lot of money but you know i it's kind of the same thing with will fries they took a chance on him they drafted him and developed him chris said his career trajectory right now,
Starting point is 00:10:46 he's pretty much where they wanted him to be. Yeah. And so why would you let that walk out the door? Yeah. My only quick comment with that though, is you got to free up some money somewhere. Where's this big free agency they're going to have if they're going to be keeping all these guys.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So we'll, we'll see. But that's all we have talking to Chris Ballard and free agency for now. We are going to transition more into draft talk because it's combine week you know it's time to talk about these players we get to talk to defensive linemen and linebackers tomorrow for uh interviews in the morning and then they work out on thursday evening so coming up we're going to talk about defensive linemen that have caught our eyes so far and that we're really excited to watch here at the combine these next couple days all righty jake we are back from that long break there and talking all about these defensive linemen that have caught our eyes so far some of these guys are senior bowl guys so some guys that you've been able to see up close this draft season
Starting point is 00:11:39 when you were down in mobile some other guys who i think um are very very good players uh just on film in general so i've got my handful of guys but jake who are the guys that you're really looking at a defensive line maybe not particularly as fits for the colts but just in general guys that you really want to see have a big week here at the combine yeah and when i'm looking at players anymore for the most part i am looking through a colts lens like i kind of discount guys if they wouldn't fit with the colts but some that i do think would uh donovan as a rock who from boston college i think makes a lot of sense he's that bendy fastball off the edge that we know chris ballard covets and long arms too yes really long arms uh oluafemi oladejo from ucla this fits the ballard vein in that he is a position switch.
Starting point is 00:12:26 He spent time at UCLA earlier in his career as a linebacker, a guy who they could rush off the edge, blitz a little bit. But in 2024, that's basically what he did was rush the passer, and he did it really well. So he's young to the edge position which we know chris likes that too if you've made a position switch for some reason that really does it for him uh anias peoples that was a uh interior senior bowl standout and then derrick harman big boy i know you're you're looking for some beef up front so yes he fits the bill for sure yeah no i'm i'm very much looking at some
Starting point is 00:13:03 beef up front for the colts, especially that third defensive tackle. When you look at Lou Ann Rumo's system, there's going to be a lot more two-gapping. They're going to be asking guys to control their gaps and let these linebackers roam free and make those tackles for a loss. And while I think Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner are just fantastic players in their own right, and they can certainly operate in this type of scheme,
Starting point is 00:13:24 I want that rotational guy to be a big boy i want like 330 340 yeah maybe 350 maybe 360 37 like 400 do you want a bear like a real bear i just want a roadblock to put in the middle of the defensive line that won't move and maybe that's because these last couple seasons i've been seeing taven brian playing one tech i've've been seeing Raekwon Davis playing one tech. I've been seeing Atatomi Atabore playing one tech. And these guys are traffic cones out there. They're guys getting driven off the line. I just want a guy who can eat their gap, who can hold their space and just do some really good things there on that defensive line. i'm looking at guy a guy like yaya black from from iowa a 330 pound guy uh kenneth grant from michigan i mean you'd have you'd have to take him at 14 and hope
Starting point is 00:14:11 he gets on that dexter lawrence career plan because this is a 340 pound guy who beat avea yeah beat avea uh but this is a 340 pound guy who doesn't really have the production in college but like if it clicks for him he's got the athletic tools uh jamari caldwell from oregon more rotational guy um walter nolan i know he's a little bit smaller but just the athletic traits there like i just want more juice at defensive tackle more juice and size from that third defensive tackle and i think people don't realize too we're talking about this third defensive tackle if the colts cut rayquan davis and let tave and bryant walk there's nearly 700 snaps a defensive tackle being vacated and that's counting on buckner and grover to play almost all the games you know so if these guys are well like even just relatively healthy and they do miss a couple games you're going to need that
Starting point is 00:15:03 third defensive tackle to step up and play some real snaps so it can't be a guy like Taven Bryan it can't be a guy like Raekwon Davis but maybe you get in a Yaya Black or a Jamari Caldwell in those middle rounds and they can give you some good snaps there as that third defensive tackle so like a guy like Caldwell for instance from Oregon uh like 6 six one 330 pounds uh just a lightning bug too on the interior like that's a guy i'm really looking at uh for the annapolis colts i think he's going to test fantastic this week if you watch him on film i think this week's gonna be a good week for him in terms of testing uh so those are the guys i got my eye on at defensive tackle the other one i really want to throw out here jake is because i think if he's there at 14 just knowing chris ballard and how he
Starting point is 00:15:46 values the trenches yeah and how he i mean this guy's young he's super athletic and that's shamar stewart from texas a&m we talked about him recently on the show six foot six 280 pounds four career sacks in college senior bowl superstar this offseason to me it just screams so much ballard it's so it's so true i mean he's look i'll say this he's way more athletic than dio okay dio's athletic but this guy he's gonna run like four five like high four fours it's closer to trayvon walker to me and that's why he might go even higher than 14 so I'm telling you man like if he's there at 14 I could totally see the Colts falling in love because I think it's going to be like one of those like you know we talked about
Starting point is 00:16:35 RAS and the relative athletic score here it's going to be like a 9.9 I think or a 10 from him this week no he's he's going to be good he He showed out at the Senior Bowl. He was another guy who did so well, didn't have to finish the rest of the week. No. Again, you mentioned how big he is, but he's bendy. He's very athletic, too. He's bendy. He had a couple reps during 11-on-11s where he bent the edge from the right tackle and just torched the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And so guys like that, they can be fast, they can be explosive, but they're not always – they don't have that flexibility, but he does. Yeah. So he's super enticing. I'm with you. I can't, if his character checks out, which I don't know why it wouldn't, but like, that's the only thing that could maybe keep him from being like a top half of the first round pick. Like Chris is going to be really enticed. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 For sure. Yeah. And then two other guys I really want to highlight, just because I think this is a big week for both of them, for very different reasons. Darius Alexander from Toledo. He was a man amongst boys last year in college, quite literally, 25 years old, playing against 20-year-olds,
Starting point is 00:17:36 but had a fantastic year with Iowa – no, Toledo. Toledo. Sorry, yeah, yeah, black. I'm still thinking of – with Toledo. And he's an Indy native guy from around here i think from fort wayne fort wayne indiana there and yeah the senior bowl film was awesome the college film was awesome if he can just check that final box like yeah i know he's an older guy but that's a guy the colts will certainly love despite him being a little bit more undersized and then another big boy here deon walker from kentucky strength yeah i just want to see what the testing numbers look like
Starting point is 00:18:08 with him though because if he can hit if he can get around five seconds in that 40 which would be fantastic at 340 big yeah we're talking you know a huge riser i know the tape is inconsistent the leverage is inconsistent in college but if he can just hit those crazy testing numbers and maybe, you know, you said the strength, if the, if the bench time, the bench stuff is like great for him,
Starting point is 00:18:31 we can see him really climb up. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know arm length is a big part of that as well, but yeah, I think that's another guy who could rise up and maybe be a guy for the Colts and that big boy vein that I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I'm with you. We've seen them go for kind of the, the twe backup three tech guys like i'm ready for them to put this again hog in there get a bear and like one of these athletic dudes who has no business moving like he does at the size he is and right i'm with you on that well let me think about like grover stewart grover stewart was like 320 coming out yeah and they cut him down to 310 and now he's at like 305 yeah and you got that size and strength and now you have this athletic beast too at 305 you can do that with these guys you get them in at 340 get them down to like 320 they can still eat up the two gap and they can be like more athletic and better pass rushers as well you know they don't have to be stuck at that weight forever but i think it's easier for a guy to go from like a 340 to a 325 than it is from a guy to go from like 290 to 305 you know like i
Starting point is 00:19:31 think it's a lot easier the transition and you get to keep that athleticism or maybe add to athleticism if they're just cutting some weight rather than gaining weight in the nfl yeah without a question and and chris knows this is a deep group. You know, he always loves the defensive line, but he identified this as a deep group as well. So be prepared for them to to kind of pull the weight on the defensive line. So coming up, guys, this is going to be you know, it's not a very heralded group of off ball linebackers, but I like this group a lot and they're very versatile, very explosive. So we're going to talk about that in just a moment all right so linebackers are going to go as well we're going to talk to these guys tomorrow they're going to work out on thursday so we know the colts are probably going to get a linebacker or two in
Starting point is 00:20:17 the draft or they at least ought to um they they have zyra franklin as a starter at mike and you know jaylen carlisle is pretty much penciled in as your will for now. We'll see what happens with EJ Speed, but they need to get a linebacker somewhere between round three to six, probably. Yeah, yeah. So who are your favorites that you're looking at here? Well, one thing I want to add is we have a new scheme coming on defense. Lou Anarumo is coming in.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And while I do think that might hurt some of the projection as like Chris Ballard likes a 34 inch arm linebacker who tests out of this world. I'm not saying Anarumo wants short armed bad athletes at linebacker. But, you know, you could see that that archetype change a little bit. One thing that I have noticed, though, with luana rumo is all the linebackers have really had success there at cincy have been senior bowl guys logan wilson jermaine pratt akim davis gaither those are kind of the same trends with the colts in terms of you know bobby okereke early on jakeel leonard um you know those are kind of big senior bowl guys as well so i think
Starting point is 00:21:21 we could see them go that senior bowl route um so I have my couple guys, but I'm actually going to kick it back to you, Jake, because because of that senior bowl connection. I think that the Colts, if they do take a linebacker, it would be one of those guys that they really saw the senior bowl. That was like just doing everything they need in terms of coverage and blitzing. So who are some of your standouts at the Seabrook? I know you had a couple that really popped for you. Yeah. So one guy I've talked about, I think every time i've mentioned linebackers in this draft is jeffrey bossa from oregon oh really you're a fan of jeffrey bossa yeah news news to you okay yeah yeah so former safety turn linebacker convert just like jaylen carlisle uh but this dude is
Starting point is 00:21:59 like he he's your alpha dog type of linebacker, very vocal leader, explosive, rangy. I watch him and I see a clear fit with the Colts. Like he is a will linebacker through and through. Yep. Like I think he was the green dot and he called the defense for Oregon. But you look at him with the Colts and I see him lining up next to Zyre. Zyre cleaning up all the stuff in the box and everything. And you just let boss fly around the field. A really good player in that regard. Jack Kaiser going to be a day three pick somewhere. No idea where, but a nice homegrown
Starting point is 00:22:35 story. He was, he played for one, a pioneer, one, Mr. Football in Indiana, went to Notre Dame, played there a million years, was a standout at the Senior Bowl. Surprisingly enough for me, he's not a guy, he's not got great size, he's not got great athleticism, but he is a gamer. The whistle goes and this guy is going to find a way to be around the ball, make plays. I was really pleased with him in coverage during the Senior Bowl. Not so much the deep downfield stuff like etienne turned him into a blender at one point like getting him downfield but like everything horizontal and in the box in coverage he was he smothered him yeah he stayed on guys the entire
Starting point is 00:23:19 time he was really good uh shamar james i think he had one of the fastest gps times there in mobile uh that's another mid-round guy who i think a lot of people are going to be excited about uh carson sweshinger schwessinger uh from ucla that'll be a tough name for us to say but that's a good guy in coverage as well and then demetrius knight that's my guy who I liked him on film and I don't know how he's going to test but I want him to be so much better than I fear he might test you know what I'm saying yeah like on on film he's not the fastest guy but he's like my Denzel Perryman this year like he's always around the ball he's a thumper he's he's kind of got like an old school mentality but he's not reckless like he can translate to the modern game where you're going to get called for a
Starting point is 00:24:09 lot of penalties. Like his aren't that bad, but he's, he's still a thumper. I just don't know how well he's going to test, but he's an older prospect too. And so we'll, we'll see how it goes. That's a guy who I really want to test. Well, yeah, it's kind of disheartening by the by the way, when we say older prospect, it just means that there's a 19 in the birth date. You know, it means 1999, 1998, 1997, heaven forbid 1997.
Starting point is 00:24:34 But that means the older prospects nowadays, I'm seeing guys with 2004 birthdays in this. That's wild. Yeah, it's killing me here. But one thing I do want to say about jack kaiser is i'm personally a guy who likes athletic linebackers i love linebackers with super athletes i love the long arm guys so kaiser is someone i would traditionally not be a big fan of but the film and the senior bowl stuff was really good and his his eyes are really good. And I'm just, I'm just begging him this week.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Just, just hit baseline numbers at the combine. Like, yeah. Can you get me 50th percentile in the 40? Can you get me 40? Or six from jump like a 35 or something? Like that's all I ask.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Like if you hit me bare minimums, I can fight for you. It's kind of what, you know, it's what we hear from scouts and draft rooms though. Like, you know, scouts doing jumping jacks because they hear a corner ran a four, five, eight, you know, like their seventh round corner that they really love ran a four, five, eight instead of a four, six, because if they run that four, six, we can't draft them. But four, five,
Starting point is 00:25:39 eight, I can talk them into it. You know, it's kind of stuff like that. Ballard's told stories about that in the past from his time with the bears.'s kind of me with kaiser man like just give me the baseline and i can fall for you if you but if you come out and run the 4-8 if you do the the what's the guy the old linebacker for the morrison was it antonio yeah if you do the antonio morrison i can't fall for you man so i need like give me like a 4'6". Maybe I can talk myself into a 4'7". If you hit a 4'8", though, I can't do it. I can't do it there. But two more linebackers I really want to hit on who I don't know if they're going to be Colts players
Starting point is 00:26:14 because they might just go too high. But I think they are going to be the bell of the ball this week. Because, look, they're first-round picks. And that is Jalen Walker from Georgia and Jahia and jihad campbell from alabama yes from everything i've heard about jihad campbell we might be looking at historic combine week from him uh in terms of just 40 time uh explosiveness spider chart's gonna be a full circle yeah and and he's one of those guys just like jalen walker as well where you're gonna put them at either edge or linebacker and i think at either spot you put them you're going to have this all-world athlete so you know
Starting point is 00:26:49 I like both for the Colts I really like Campbell for the Colts like even at 14 I'd be a big fan of taking Campbell just because he's such a playmaker as a pass rusher and as a guy in coverage and he's only 20 I think he's only 20 years old as well like I'm a big fan of Campbell or Walker for the Colts but I'm not even necessarily saying I want them to do well this week for the Colts more. So just, I want to see if someone put on a show, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:13 and we got to see that with Xavier worthy last year and a couple other players. I think these are two guys who could put on a massive show this week and, and maybe solidify themselves as top 10, top 15 picks for other NFL teams or maybe even for the Colts. I mean, the Colts need a linebacker. Yeah, and I'd love to do some – we've got a bug making a guest appearance.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I would love to do some poking around this week and see what scouts or just anyone around feels about Jihad Campbell probably being – staying an off-ball linebacker but being able to blitz with him. I get the vibe jalen walker might be kind of the inverse of that where his home might be at edge and then you deploy him into coverage and do some awful stuff yeah occasionally but i'm interested in that i think regardless either those players would be great every single time i've asked or heard someone ask
Starting point is 00:28:01 a new colts affiliate whether it it's Chris Ballard or whoever about Lou Anarumo, they have said that he is multiple and this is the kind of player you get guys like that. Yeah. Yeah. Just, just add talent, add athletic talent, uh, guys who can do multiple things. Like I, I don't care if they're perfect. I don't care if they are perfect for one position, if they need to be a two positions, like roles for these guys let them be weapons let them be playmakers and let's go from there but yeah I think I mean Campbell and Walker are definitely my short list for who I like in round one but I just don't know if they're really the guys the Colts will go with but I think they're gonna have huge combine weeks and heck if they hit that nine RAS like we've seen
Starting point is 00:28:43 in the past all of a sudden that's a Colts player. So we could definitely see it. But those are definitely linebackers to watch this week, not only in the interviews but also in the workouts, especially in the workouts. I think they'll have a big week. But that's all we have for today, guys. We'll be back with you yet again tomorrow to recap some of our interviews
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