Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: C.J. Stroud/Brian Callahan or Anthony Richardson/Shane Steichen?

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Starting point is 00:00:56 moment more. Visit FanDuel.com slash Locked On today to get started. I am Jake Arthur and he's Zach Hicks. You know the two of us from horseshoehuddle.com. Apologies right off the bat for my, my camera, whatever is going on in this. I have tried for days to get this figured out. Sometimes they get it to work. Sometimes I do not but we're just rolling with it because we're not waiting all night to record. But today, you know, Zach and I were kicking around some ideas. You guys love hearing about this head coach stuff, but we got to break out the monotony a little bit.

Starting point is 00:01:29 So we're going to put that together with the next best topic quarterbacks. And you know, you need a new head coach, you need a new quarterback, but you have to find that right combination. So we're going to take a dive into three different combinations, the perfect head coach and quarterback marriages that will service the Colts for the long term. So we're going to go over Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan and Ohio State quarterback CJ Stroud, and then Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Kentucky quarterback Will Levis and then lastly Eagles offensive coordinator Shane Steichen and Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson and Zach has done a ton of research into these guys already I know a good deal but not not as much as Zach so he'll be able to shower us here with the knowledge.

Starting point is 00:02:35 So basically how we did these was basically just the type of quarterback that these coaches have had the most success with for the most part. And the top of this quarterback class kind of gives you a little bit of everything. And we have found pretty much perfect matches for everyone so uh Zach leading us off here Brian Callahan and CJ Stroud why is this such a good match yeah I think this is the one that Indianapolis Colts fans are the most excited about I've seen this just circulating a lot on social media in recent days uh people being oh yeah Brian Callahan after watching Joe Burrow in the playoffs that's the perfect guy for CJ Stroud. That is the guy for CJ Stroud. And I completely see it.

Starting point is 00:03:06 You actually did me a favor by putting down the quarterbacks he's worked with here. So I appreciate that. Obviously, Peyton Manning, he was an offensive assistant with the Denver Broncos back in the day and won a Super Bowl with that Denver Broncos team. So he worked closely with Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning showered him with praise. After that, I believe he went to Detroit to work with Matthew Stafford as Matthew Stafford's QB coach. So another pocket passer who is a little bit mobile, but mostly a pocket passer.

Starting point is 00:03:33 And then he went to be the QB coach of the Las Vegas Raiders for a season as well. And then again, a guy like Derek Carr, more of a pocket passer, can make little things happen outside the pocket, but mostly a pocket passer. And then recently as an offensive coordinator with the Cincinnati Bengals, working with Joe Burrow, again, pocket passer, can make some things happen, but he's a pocket passer. So when you're looking at this class, you know, Callahan is a guy who has a lot of success with those pocket passer guys. He comes from that John Gruden type tree, Clint, or not Clint Kubiak, Gary Kubiak. I'm thinking of his son right now. Gary Kubiak type of tree who had success with Peyton Manning, obviously in Denver.

Starting point is 00:04:14 You're looking at a guy like CJ Stroud to operate that scheme. A very, very smart, savvy quarterback who's a great touch thrower, who can extend the ball down the field with vertical touch throws, but also can read a defense, get the ball out quick, understands what reads need to be made early and often,

Starting point is 00:04:30 especially against the blitz. And that's what you're seeing with Joe Burrow there in Cincinnati. You know, it's not, it's not wowing you with arm talent. It's not wowing you with his physical ability to get outside the pocket and scramble for 40 yards. It's a guy who's just been dominant from the pocket, who is getting the ball out quick, getting it to his playmakers, dispersing it well.

Starting point is 00:04:49 And Callahan's doing a great job of isolating the best matchups. You know, he does that not only with Jamar Chase. You know, Jamar Chase gets a lot of one-on-one opportunities, but you got T. Higgins, you got Tyler Boyd. I think they have Higby or, you know, Hayden Hurst is their tight end. Hayden Hurst, yep. Yep, yep. Hayden Hurst is a tight end. Hayden Hurst, yep. Yep, yep. Hayden Hurst is a tight end.

Starting point is 00:05:06 He does a great job of getting those weapons, their one-on-one opportunities, and just getting them in space. So you're looking at Brian Callahan. He can make things easy for a pocket passer. He's done it throughout his whole career, and he's definitely done it recently with Joe Burrow. So I think the Brian Callahan, CJ Stroud hype right now is great with the Indianapolis Colts fans,

Starting point is 00:05:24 but I think it's only going to get stronger and stronger when the Colts talk to him again, I think next week. So yeah, I love this pairing. I really like Brian Callahan. And then obviously if you give him a quarterback like CJ Stroud, who is, I would honestly say the smartest quarterback in this class. I think that's just a perfect marriage right there. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:41 And the CJ Stroud or the Colts stuff has really, it's probably at its fever pitch right now. It'll probably get even stronger once the draft gets here. But now that we know the Colts have a top five pick and that Stroud is in the race to become the first overall pick, first quarterback off the board at least, now that all things have kind of become even with Bryce Young and everything, this seems a lot more realistic now. It really does. But you've talked about Stroud early in the draft process already while the season was still going. There are concerns. You're probably going to have to build a pretty good offensive line coming into this. Probably need to add another weapon or at least you have to retain Paris Campbell.

Starting point is 00:06:22 Can't go into the season with the offensive line how it was last year. You know, you can go in with Bernard Ryman being the starter at left tackle, but he's got to have veteran insurance that has started before and done it adequately. And then right guard, same thing over there with Will Fries. It's fine if they're the starters going in, but they have to have insurance because Joe Burrow, you know, he's had an awesome beginning to his career, had an ACL tear and was absolutely pummeled in his first couple of years. And that line is still not really fixed when you factor in the offensive line injuries and things like that, which you can't control. But still, you get someone like that, especially if they're mostly a pocket passer, have to get a solid offensive line. Stroud's also really used to having those weapons around him.

Starting point is 00:07:11 You know, shoot Jackson Smith Najigba and Marvin Harrison Jr., Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson before that. So he's used to having weapons. Callahan, too. Shoot Jamar Chase Chase Tyler Boyd uh T Higgins Joe Mixon like these guys are used to having adequate weapons so the Colts it'd be a terrific investment in those two but help them out a little bit too just that it's not enough to just stop there yeah and two things I'll say about Brian Callahan and why I think CJ Stroud would be just a great fit for him is I think CJ Stroud's biggest concern is how he responds to pressure. You know, I think we can all kind of agree on that, even though that Georgia game was amazing and looked perfect.

Starting point is 00:07:53 And he looked like the best quarterback ever. Um, I still think there are concerns about how he responds to pressure. He still was pro football focuses low, like one of the lowest rated quarterbacks, uh, in the nation this past year against pressure. You know, that's not just among draft prospects in the whole nation. So one way to mitigate that is getting a smart offensive mind that understands how to draw up a good quick game. Look at the Bengals this past weekend against Buffalo Bills. You know, the Buffalo Bills definitely did not have the greatest pass rush, but the Bengals were going out there with three backup offensive linemen.

Starting point is 00:08:22 And one of their starters was a guy they took in, what, the fifth round in Cordell Volson, who started every single game for them. You know, this was not the greatest offensive line. It was arguably the worst in the playoffs left, and Joe Burrow was hardly touched, you know, because Joe Burrow is a smart quarterback that knows how to get the ball out, and Callahan can draw up a good scheme to kind of use that quick game. So I really like Callahan with Stroud to kind of mitigate some of those issues and the other thing is when you look at this Colts offense you look at some of their receivers don't quote me on Twitter I'm not trying to sit be too egregious with this but type wise not player wise but just typing wise the the Bengals are succeeding with their one-two punch of having a vertical like just a dominant vertical player

Starting point is 00:09:05 in Jamar Chase who's a speedster who can run by guys but also can go up and make contested catches and then you have Tee Higgins who can win over the middle and kind of do everything else with the Colts you know Alec Pierce is that deep threat he is a deep threat guy who can win vertically could run past guys and also go up and win those contested catches and he can slide into that Jamar Chase like role obviously he's nowhere near near Jamar Chase guy. So please don't, don't clip that, but that's what I'm saying here. Just the roles that he could play. He could play very similar to Jamar Chase. And then obviously Michael Pittman Jr. and T Higgins are very comparable as well. So I think that he can work with these weapons. Obviously you want to give them a bigger,

Starting point is 00:09:42 more reliable slot receiver to go with that, like a Tyler Boyd type. But I really do think Brian Callahan can get the most out of this offense. And I think C.J. Stroud is that quarterback in this class that can work with him. Yeah, I would certainly know how to do with Jonathan Taylor what he's done with Joe Mixon. And having Jelani Woods would not be a bad factor either. Yes. So maybe he'll get used a little bit uh so next maybe Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka can recapture this year's magic by coming to

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Starting point is 00:11:35 official sportsbook partner of the NFL. All right, Jake, so we're getting into this next matchup here, and this is just one I really like, so I'll probably go on a little bit of a tangent here in a second, but I'll let you start. Mike Kafka, Will Levis. I know a lot of fans don't like Will Levis, but I think there's something there, man.

Starting point is 00:11:53 And I think Kafka, with his experience in not only in this Brian Dable type system, but also before that with Kansas City, I think this is a really good fit. I think these two could work really well together. Yeah, I think this makes just about as much sense as the one we just talked about. You know, if you take if you take Levis's past, you know, with Penn State, he was a lot more of a rusher. He only had 73 carries last year, but 312 for his career when you factor in the last few years there. Right. He could he could do a lot of what Daniel Jones can.

Starting point is 00:12:24 Now, Jones was a really good athlete coming out uh not that levis isn't but i think jones is probably there's just more there to to indicate that he's he's more of a rushing weapon but still i just really like that you you kind of give kafka someone he is familiar with same thing with jonathan taylor and saquon barkley and honestly the the Colts receiving group is better than the Giants is so you're kind of given Kafka more to work with there or at least some some equal parts you can give them a vision of what he is familiar with so I like that a lot Kafka's offense was pretty balanced 520 pass pass attempts, 520 rushes.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Literally cannot get more even than that. So, yeah, I like that one a lot. He's obviously worked with Patrick Mahomes, Alex Smith, and Daniel Jones. That's three guys there who can get out and move. You know, Jones is the one that's probably the most fleet of foot and uses his mobility the most. But obviously Mahomes and Smith have made a career of being able to escape and get outside the pocket as well. So I really like this one.

Starting point is 00:13:32 This one makes a lot of sense too. Yeah, when I would circle what offenses work best for Will Levis and his projection to the NFL, I would probably think more of the Frank Reich, Doug Peterson, maybe even some of the McVay and Shanahan stuff, which would lead to Raheem Morris also being a good fit for this because he would bring some of that Shanahan and McVay stuff with him. But I do think that the Brian Dable type tree is also a really good one for me, especially what they did with Daniel Jones this past season. Because if you guys are looking at Will Levis' stats, last year it looks like he's not a rushing quarterback. You know, he's a pocket passer, but he did work through a turf toe all season. So he just wasn't the same athlete that he typically is. If you want to see him as a real athlete, go watch 2021. He was running over guys using that big frame, using some speed and looking really good as a rushing quarterback.

Starting point is 00:14:21 And I think that's the avenue to take with him early in his career, because he's not going to be this super developed passer from day one. He's not going to be a guy who can sit in the pocket, complete 70% of his passes and just be surgical down the field. He's a guy who's going to have some inconsistencies with his mechanics, some inconsistencies with his reads. He's not going to be perfect at all phases. So I think a good way that they can kind of ease them in is doing what they did with Daniel Jones this past season in New York, you know, encouraging the scramble. You know, the scramble was a big part of Daniel Jones' game. That's how he was adding a lot of EPA per play. You know, he was adding a lot of production on plays that likely weren't going to have production.

Starting point is 00:14:58 Even if it's a one read, two read thing, and then scramble, that's 10 more yards, 15 more yards than what you're going to get regardless. So I really like that aspect for younger quarterbacks it kind of mitigates some of the issues and then on top of that you know there was a design quarterback runs there was a very nuanced and an aggressive rushing attack which was really good and then you got that Brian Dable type passing attack which is a lot of vertical crossers a lot of getting the ball down the field we saw it work with Josh Allen the year before in Buffalo and take Josh Allen's new heights. And they were able to do a little bit of that with Daniel Jones as well this year, you know, instituting a little bit of that Brian Dabble type offense. So yeah, I really, really think Mike Kafka, if he's going to bring this type of offense that he did in New

Starting point is 00:15:37 York this past season to Indy, he's one of those guys who can make Will Levis work. You know, Will Levis is not a guy who's going to thrive in every single system, especially early on if you try to make him like a pocket passer that is going to have to – like if you put him in like the Bruce Arians scheme, I know he's a big guy, but if you put him in the Bruce Arians scheme where you're asking him to just air it out and read things down the field and attack split safeties and stuff, like that's just not what he's going to do. But if you get him in a quick passing attack that can get the ball of his hands encourage him to scramble use him as a weapon running the

Starting point is 00:16:08 ball i really think that there is an avenue to success for will levis and then he can reach that potential later on uh so yeah i think an early offense like what mike kofka was doing for daniel jones this past season try to get him productive and in rhythm early on I really think that could be a good thing for him yeah I have absolutely no problems with that one it's yeah that I'm curious if you know Mike Kafka if he is as high up the board as as Brian Callahan because I think the the two of those could work as well Callahan and Levis you could mix them and match them but, that's – man, these just make too much sense. I don't know. It seems too good to be true.

Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm a little worried about it at this point because it's like – Will the Colts actually go an offensive coach? This is what I was – like, look, I love Raheem Morris so much. Like, so much. Raheem Morris is my favorite. And if they got him, I would be 100% backing him. But at the end of the day, it's better to get these offensive coaches because they are just the most beneficial to a young quarterback.

Starting point is 00:17:10 It's the way that the NFL is going right now. I think, is it all offensive coaches are left now in the playoffs? The four coaches remaining are all offensive coaches now with Sean McDermott being knocked out. So all high-end offensive coaches and offensive coordinators underneath them that are calling plays too, like it's just the way of the NFL now. It's all about that quarterback and getting guys like Callahan or Kafka or Steichen. That's the new trend.

Starting point is 00:17:36 So, yeah, if you can get any of these guys and pair them with any of the young quarterbacks that they're choosing, you can draw up a very good offense early on. Well, we got one more for you guys. Like pigs rooting for truffles, we found yet another match made in heaven. It is Shane Steichen and Anthony Richardson. All right, so I'm going to rewind myself a little bit back to Jalen Hurts a couple years ago coming out of the draft.

Starting point is 00:18:03 I saw a guy who could run the hell out of the draft. I saw a guy who could run the hell out of the ball. He has a great build. He could take punishment. He was taking a lot of big hits. He was running up the middle. You know, he was leading Oklahoma well there. I was not in love with him as a passer. I thought he did have a big arm, but you know, he kind of had a slow release. And you know, I. And he needed some time. He was a second, third rounder for a reason. He was a day two prospect. A lot of it because of that.

Starting point is 00:18:34 But he developed into this much better passer. He's still a great runner. But he's able to do a lot more now. And that's what you do is you give these guys a chance. You see they have the tools. They already have the thing they can lean on with the running but if you see those traits as a passer you you invest in that and you know for the Eagles that's paid off in jail and hurts it kick Carson Wentz out of town it's got them you know making deep playoff runs now

Starting point is 00:18:59 he's an MVP candidate and that's one thing that makes Anthony Richardson so polarizing now. Is because he's just mainly seen as a running back who has some quality passing traits. A lot of people are seeing that. And he is raw as a passer. But, you know, you see some of these things, especially on all 22. And he's got some ability to sling it, man. He's, you've said it, you've been kind of pounding the table on this thing, is he has the traits, you know, just make the pick and coach him up. You know, like, don't say he can't do it, just invest in his development. Yeah. And the biggest thing before we even talk about Steichen and

Starting point is 00:19:45 Anthony Richardson together is just all this is a moot point. If you're not going to develop the mechanics of Anthony Richardson, you're not going to get him a QB coach that can work with him. You're not going to send him off to Tom house and Adam Dato and fixing that lower half because it is a mess right now. He needs a lot of work to get where you need him to be to where he can be a more accurate passer. And he can go from from completing 50 of his passes in college to maybe a low 60s in the nfl which is great i mean that's great for a guy of his stature because we're talking about a guy who's 6'5 230 240 like this is a big human being who's probably going to run around 4'4 like he's a massive human who's also lightning fast and if you add him into

Starting point is 00:20:26 that scheme that Shane Steichen was able to do with Jalen Hurts this past season you could have a really really good quarterback and again the biggest thing while I why I keep pushing these mobile passers especially in young quarterbacks is you don't have to be as precise you know when NFL quarterback when rookie quarterbacks come into the nfl it's all it's everything's so much more condensed than what it was in college you know you could be from alabama where you're throwing to 10 first round picks every single game so they're always open you could be from ohio state again guys are always open or you could be from from houston or florida even where your guys aren't open but it's still college football you know at the end of the day

Starting point is 00:21:03 receivers are going to be open more in college football than they are in the NFL because everything's so much more condensed and attacking in the NFL. Now, if you add a scheme like Shane Steichen, where they use that quarterback as an extra rushing threat, where the running game is just so diverse and just spread out, you are going to take this defense that's so condensed and aggressive, and you're going to stretch them as wide as possible. Stretch them as wide as possible. You're going to make them think on every single snap and that makes more passing lanes that makes more throwing lanes for your quarterback

Starting point is 00:21:32 so a quarterback like anthony richardson where in college i mean what he's a 51 percent passer like a 50 completion percent it's like not good at all and you can add more windows to him you can you can just open up those those throwing lanes a little bit more and then obviously work on his mechanics you can get him where you need him to be because if this guy can get to i'm not even saying get to like 66 67 completion percentage because then he's a top five quarterback in the league if he gets up there because just the running threat with a consistent passer is just insane but if you can get in the low sixties, like Cam Newton was at, or what Josh Allen's typically been in most of his career,

Starting point is 00:22:07 like you're still talking about a top 10, top 15 quarterback because of what he can do with his legs. If you could add a fairly consistent passing attack with that, he can be just as good. So yeah, Anthony Richardson, if you get him in this quick, this quick hitting RPO scheme,

Starting point is 00:22:22 that just gets guys more open than a typical passing offense, along with the added pressure on him. I mean, Jalen Hurts had, what, 165 rushing attempts this past season. If you give that to a guy like Anthony Richardson, I mean, again, this is a tank running at you at 4-4 speed. I can only imagine what he can do with proper development. So, yeah, I love Anthony Richardson with Shane Steichen. And for you guys who also like Bryce Young, I think Bryce Young with Shane Steichen would be phenomenal as well

Starting point is 00:22:50 because of that RPO scheme. Bryce Young is not really the most mobile quarterback, so obviously you're going to take down those QB runs, but you're going to do a lot of the RPO stuff and get that ball out quick, which Bryce Young can do at a high level as well. So this is kind of a mixture here where I'm going to say Shane Steichen with Anthony Richardson, but also with Bryce Young. If you guys want to go that way, I think that's another one that could work as well.

Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. And to the point with Steichen is, you know, we've seen in his past, you know, he's worked with some prolific passers, Phillip Rivers back with the Chargers. Phillip was slinging it and was, again, one of the most prolific passers of his time. He's up there in the upper echelon of record holders. Justin Herbert quickly became a volume passer. He's put up historic numbers for the first few years of his career. Jalen Hurts has made the jump to being a lot better passer.

Starting point is 00:23:43 Steichen has been a part of all this. So, you know, you said you have to invest in him, get him a good QB coach and, you know, work on his mechanics. There's nothing to say that Steichen wouldn't champion that same exact approach. So definitely, definitely in on that one. And he knows how to use a quarterback to run the ball with a frame that he can handle. Because I think there's a difference. You know, you mentioned Bryce Young. You wouldn't have the same amount because you got a little guy there.

Starting point is 00:24:12 You're going to get him killed. But there's a way you can run these bigger quarterbacks and still be smart about it. I mean, the player plays a role in it as well because they have to be wise about the hits they take. But there's smart ways coaches can get that going. just don't be psychotic like josh allen i think you'll be fine josh allen's trying to hurt guys and he's diving into dudes and stuff like that you know maybe be a little more tampered off than that but like you know i know a lot of people

Starting point is 00:24:38 look at these injuries to mobile quarterbacks but there's a lot of pocket passes that get hurt too they take a lot of hits in the pocket as well look at matt ryan got hurt in the pocket jimmy garoppolo got hurt in the pop this year you know there's plenty of pocket guys to go down injuries happen regardless yes exposing them to more hits can also lead to more injuries but again i i think of it like this maybe it lessens the career by like five years let's say it does does that. Right. That's big. But if I'm going to get like 10 years of elite quarterback play instead of 15 years, a very good quarterback play, I'll take it. You know, I'll take it out. That's my best shot to win a Superbowl. I'll take the 10 years of elite quarterback play. But in the end,

Starting point is 00:25:16 I really think Anthony Richardson can be a very good quarterback in the NFL. The mechanics need to need to get around, but I mean, we're talking about a guy with great pocket presence, great mobility, great arm, really good flashes in college. And I think a guy like Shane Steichen is the type of person that can unlock him and turn him into the quarterback that he can be one day. Not every coach in this cycle can do that. You know, I don't think a Dan Quinn and Brian Schottenheimer can do that for Anthony Richardson. But I think a guy like Shane Steichen is fully equipped to do something like that.

Starting point is 00:25:48 Now I'll put you on the spot here. Cause it's been on theme for this week, but give me the combo you think is most likely. And then the combo you would want the most. Oh man. Yeah. Elaine, you know,

Starting point is 00:26:02 Anthony Richardson's my guy. So the one I would want is Steichen and Richardson. Cause those are both my ones at both of these openings. My head coach won and my QB won. So I would definitely take that. But I think Brian Callahan and CJ Stroud is one that Colts fans would really, really rally behind. And I think it's the most likely one to happen because our guy, Sean McGinnis, he actually said in a Twitter thread the other day that Callahan's interview did really went really well. Like the culture really, really impressed by him. I fully expect him to be in that final five grouping and get that in-person interview sometime next week when,

Starting point is 00:26:38 when he's allowed to interview with the Colts in person. I fully expect Brian Callahan to be there until the very end. And, and again, I think CJ Stroud might be the Colts in person. I fully expect Brian Callahan to be there until the very end. And again, I think CJ Stroud might be the Colts quarterback one. So I think that's the most likely one. And I think again, Colts fans are going to do cartwheels if that one were to come true. Yeah, both my realistic and the one I want that it's Callahan and Stroud. I went from not barely knowing who Brian Callahan was a week or two ago to like, I'm like all in now, you know what I mean? It's funny what a little information research can do for you. But no, I really like what he brings to the table. I like his past. I like what he's doing

Starting point is 00:27:16 now with the Bengals. Stroud, I'm definitely on board, but I think it's realistic. One, all the reasons you said. Interview apparently went well. Callahan has a lot of Chris Ballard and Colts connections. And then I, we've already discussed that we think it's either Stroud or Levis at the top of the Colts QB board. And Chris Ballard said, you know, their best chance for getting a quarterback was probably 2021. But they went and got Carson Wentz. And he said, if they think their guys in this draft, they'll trade up and go get them. I don't think Ballard is going to be denied again.

Starting point is 00:27:55 If he has a quarterback he likes, I don't think he's going to let it pass him by this time, even if he has to go a few picks to number one and do it. I think he'll go get someone like Stroud and then Callahan. It just, it just makes all the sense in the world. And then, you know, Jeff Saturday has this, this Trump card of, you know, I'm from the Colts glory days. Jim Irsay loves me, but Brian Callahan has the Peyton Manning card as well. So, you know, if you're, if you're tugging at Jim Mercer's heartstrings, then Brian Callahan can play kind of a similar card there.

Starting point is 00:28:31 So I think that that goes one in the same with me. I think it's the most realistic and it's the one I think I want most. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think that's all we got today, Jake. I mean, we'll be back sometime tomorrow, guys, to either talk more about the head coaching search or more about quarterbacks because that's all you got today, Jake. I mean, we'll be back sometime tomorrow, guys, to either talk more about the head coaching search or more about quarterbacks, because that's all you guys really want to hear about right now. I don't even know what else we could really go into.

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