Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: Day 2-3 Draft GEMS Who Make Too Much Sense (w/ Damian Parson)

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Starting point is 00:00:45 I'm your resident credentialed media member for the site and I am joined by a very special guest today. We had him on after the senior role after him and I got our eyes on some guys down there at mobile. It's Damian Parson of the lock on NFL draft podcast. He's also part of the draft team over there at Bleacher report. What is up Damien? Welcome back to the show Always good talking with you man. Always good talking with you is kind of somewhat the home stretch before the 2025 NFL draft it feels like that period in the offseason when you hit like what mid-june Right before training camp and you're just like man. This is taking forever. That's what it feels like right now. Yeah, it's it's definitely forever. That's what it feels like right now.

Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah, it's, it's definitely crossing T's and dotting I season. It's not like, it's not like the workload is as big as it was, but I still find myself sleep deprived. It's like, you're still trying to use every ounce of energy you can to figure out what's going on. But yeah, yeah. So when we had you on before, we're looking at early, you know, some day one fits for the Colts, some guys who kind of got the juice up a little bit after the senior bowl. And today we're going to look at day two and day three fits. Uh, still some of these guys are senior bowl standouts, but I'll kind of go

Starting point is 00:01:56 through some guys that we have talked about here on the show. And then if you want to throw in some extra ones that maybe we're not thinking of that we should, uh, let's absolutely do that. So we'll kind of start with the biggest fits or, uh, the biggest needs for the Colts. Obviously tight end is the group that's like most barren for them. Uh, they need depth on both the offensive and defensive lines and linebacker and day two seems about the right spots for those. They do have some other needs that will get to here on the day

Starting point is 00:02:25 three portion, but when I look at tight end, Mason Taylor is for the value, perhaps our favorite tight end in the draft. Like Tyler Warren at 14 is obviously a layup, but if you can go down there somewhere near the bottom of the top 40 and get Mason Taylor, the value is incredible because it means in the first round at 14 or wherever you're picking that you're getting yet another stud and it feels almost like cheating a little bit. So yeah, Mason Taylor, Elijah Arroyo, who obviously kind of scares me a little bit with the knees, Terrence Ferguson. And then if Harold Fanon

Starting point is 00:03:00 is a guy in day two, maybe even day three, fourth round, what have you. But who of these tight ends really stands out for you on day two? Definitely Mason Taylor, 6'5", 250, 10 inch hands, 32 and a quarter on the arm. And this is a guy that was severely underutilized by the LSU, just offensive scheme and offensive coaching staff. This was a guy that they tried to do more manufactured stuff like tight end leagues and delayed routes and things of that nature.

Starting point is 00:03:31 But with his skillset, watching him on tape, he can do more. Like you can expand his workload and he can carry it and he can handle it. And I think this is a guy at the end of the day for me is like, hey, I mean, I know that there's a, you know, quarterback battle between supposed to be between a rich and Daniel Jones. And if I'm the coaching staff and the GM, I'm praying to God that a rich wins that battle for me. I mean, if so, you

Starting point is 00:03:54 got to give him a safety valve. I think that you have one in Josh Downs, but you need one at tight end, a guy that can really make teams rethink how they cover the field. Right? Because last year I think he led the league in a dot average depth to target like he was targeting guys far down the field 12 13 14 even 15 yards down the field on the average basis. Let's bring that back down. Let's give him those five to six yard quick hitches and quick hits and check downs. And Mason Taylor can make plays after the catch. He's a good route runner.

Starting point is 00:04:29 We saw him down in Mobile and it felt like he was not talked about enough in terms of how he was able to win the one on ones and team drills, things of that nature. So you think about having that running game with a rich and with Jonathan Taylor the play action pass off of that, whether it's getting Mason Taylor up the seam or getting him on those deep overs, those deep bending routes across the middle of the field, or even some shallow stuff, just a quick sit down in the middle of that third and five. It can't be a 15 yard throw down the field. You need a quick sit down right at the sticks where a

Starting point is 00:05:05 guy can reliably catch the ball. He's got 10 inch hands, 10 inch hands, and he catches the ball extremely well. Reminds me a little bit of Marc Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens. And I think this guy could be a long-term starter for the Colts. Yeah. I think arguably the best thing about him is he's a young guy. He's got the great side of the great athleticism. Like you mentioned, he probably was underutilized, which not a Brian Kelly player. I mean, his best football, it seems like it's well ahead of him.

Starting point is 00:05:33 Looking at offensive line here, I'm gonna mention another guy who almost, he's a French first rounder as well, may not be there at 45 for the Colts. Donovan Jackson, probably, so like seems like an easy fit at right guard for the Colts. Donovan Jackson, so like seems like an easy fit at right guard for the Colts. But Jackson, Ariante, Ursery, Charles Grant, Tate Ratledge, another guys both inside and out that we're kind of looking at there. It's interesting for the Colts because right guard is really the

Starting point is 00:06:00 only spot that's needs more like at center. I think we're good with Tanner Bordellini and Danny Pinter duking it out. I can solve it seems like a logical solution, but they don't really have anyone else to be the swing tackle and they don't really want to pass with that because he's really good at it. So they either go out and get someone like Ursory who makes sense as the new swing tackle for now until Braden Smith perhaps moves on after the season or you just get someone who plugs in that right guard spot immediately. So, um, between, you know, Ursary Jackson, Grant Rattledge, what have you, anyone else that you might be thinking of who really fits,

Starting point is 00:06:37 you know, the Colts have a certain identity on the offensive line. And then when you factor in, let's say Anthony Richardson wins the battle, you obviously have a quarterback that is going gonna spread the field a bit more, both as a runner and a passer. So who really seems to fit there? Man, if Donovan Jackson is there, you run the card up to me. I think this is a guy that we saw the athleticism on display when Josh Simmons went down against Oregon and

Starting point is 00:07:02 then you get prepared from that Penn State game on. He kicking a guard out to tackle is kind of unheard of, especially at the college level, just moving the guy immediately. The guy that's never played tackle in college and moving him from his place of comfort, his home, to uncharted territory where now you get to get put on an island

Starting point is 00:07:23 against these explosive edge rushes and also the Abdul Abdul Carter game, which was his first start. And of course, Abdul lit him up in that. Right. You know, after that he pitched a shutout, right? As they went on to win the national championship. And I honestly believe this, if he had this, if they met him and Abdul met the end of the season or in the playoffs, I'm kind of betting my, I'm kind of hedging my bet towards Donovan Jackson because now he's prepared for that matchup. He's gotten the kickstep and kick slide and the movements and the muscle memory a little bit more down packed in their first actual day on the job.

Starting point is 00:08:02 And you have the hardest test in college football with Abdul Carter. I think putting him at guard, like you said, you have that identity, the physicality in the run game, also the athleticism to do some pin pool concepts, the screen, if you want to get the screen game going, he can get out in front of guys as well. He looks to head hunt those second and even third level defenders if he's out on the move and he's's trying to take somebody's head off and I love that about Donovan Jackson. But on the line, he's gonna move bodies as well, whether it's in gap scheme, man type of blocking concepts. Or if you want to run some wide zone stuff and let Jonathan Taylor be a one cut,

Starting point is 00:08:39 read and get up field type of running back in those plays as well. He can do that. So especially with Anthony Richardson, cuz anytime I get into the low red, you can go spread and then run QB power, QB draw, and continue to spread out your playbook and your calls. I think he's the guy I would look for, but an underrated name on day two, especially for that right guard spot, Miles Frazier from LSU. Okay. Fluent athlete at his size. He gets to the second level quickly a really good dominant run blocker

Starting point is 00:09:08 Guys, he has a good pad level. He's balanced. He's physical There's plays where he's pulling out and he's taking on guys and moving guys He plays with the level of nastiness that I that the Colts I believe the Colts want on their front line and And then I remember watching him at the senior bowl and watching his reps back on film. He was really good in the one on ones like he was really good one on ones, good hands, understands how to punch on time and everything like that knows the location of when he wants to get his punches off and he's quick to strike,

Starting point is 00:09:41 recoil and be ready to strike again. Similar to kind of a snake in a sense, like knowing when to hit. Okay, I don't need the latch right here. He's throwing another move, get my hands prepared for that counter. This is a guy, day two, that I think deserves more love in this draft process. I like that one. I definitely think they want offensive line help. I mean, losing Ryan Kelly and Will Fries in the same off season and then Braden Smith giving him kind of a sign of good faith with you know reworking his one year deal

Starting point is 00:10:10 that obviously is not a long-term thing you know on the surface. So yeah offensive lineman Frazier is pretty intriguing as well so I like that quite a bit. Coming up guys we're going to talk about some day three fits and it is going to get even better because that's really where the Colts build their roster. The NBA playoffs are almost here and Fandl is giving new customers an incredible way to get in on the action. Right now when you join Fandl and place your first $5 bet you'll get 250 in bonus bets if your bet wins. I personally love how Fandl makes betting super easy whether it's picking my favorite team or diving into player props from three-pointers to steals and assists. Fandl's got so many ways to bet your favorite player props.

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Starting point is 00:11:43 And then some smaller school or some less heralded guys, I guess, would be Brady cook and cam Miller. Cam Miller is like kind of my guilty pleasure, my NDSU guy. Uh, but no, those quarterbacks, I think they all kind of fit what the Colts would like to do. I'll throw Leonard in there as well. I'm just not quite as high on him. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:59 Uh, but those quarterbacks who they're not necessarily run first, but it's definitely something they have over the next guy. So those guys and anyone else, I guess, that might fit that mold on day three. Yeah, I think Kyle McCord is one of, if you asked me a year ago, I was not a big fan of him coming out, he was in Ohio State, he struggled a lot. And I feel like the change of scenery, the evolution of his confidence, like you saw him at Syracuse. And one thing that's really big,

Starting point is 00:12:33 especially with quarterbacks and this in college, is can you change the program? And he changed that program for the better, you know what I mean? Being able to lead them to a nice, a really good season, knocking off Miami late in the year and everything. That was kept Miami out of the college football playoffs and what have you.

Starting point is 00:12:50 Like he played well, he was confident, he led that team, he distributed the ball well, showcased the arm talent and everything and the accuracy that he has. So that's not a bad fit. Is he gonna give you the rushing upside that Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Raleigh Leonard, he doesn't give you that as much,

Starting point is 00:13:10 but he's much better in the pocket than Raleigh Leonard and some of those other guys. Will Howard, an intriguing one because he is a guy that fits that kind of mold. He has that, to be completely honest, he has that Daniel Jones kind of build and quirkiness to his game and everything like that. And he's got that mobility where, yeah, he's probably not going to carry the ball 15 times a game. Like we see you saw with Notre Dame and Raleigh Leonard with all the QB power and counter and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:13:38 But he can still, especially in the low red zone, you can run QB power with him. You can run QB draw, you can quarterback sneaky because he's 6'4", 6'5", 2'25", 2'30", and he's got a good arm. He doesn't have the Josh Allen, he doesn't have that upper echelon arm, but his arm is good to be able to pace the ball at different levels of the field. He on, I think later in the season, it was the college football playoff. That run, you started to see more quarterback play out of him that translated to the league, be able to hit the seven routes and smash concept.

Starting point is 00:14:12 Hit that bang net 10 yard to 12 yard dig route between two linebackers and the safety over the top in zone. He has that type of arm to fit into those type of windows and things of that nature. So yeah, this is a guy that you could definitely get, I think third round, I think I have a third round grade on him as the earliest. I can see him potentially slipping to the fourth. And if he's there, I wouldn't, you know, if the coach really feel like, hey, you know, we need that third quarterback, that backup, Will Howard could definitely do it, but I think Kyle McCord probably has the best upside

Starting point is 00:14:47 as a passer. I think my comp for him over at Bleacher Report was Kirk Cousins. That was a comp I had for Kyle McCord. I think he could be a long-term starter in the league if you put the right pieces around him. That, and I think that's the thing is when you're looking at quarterbacks, like on day three, you're just looking for backups and third guys for the most part. But there's the occasional guy who can become a starter. And it definitely feels like McCord, you know, is just scratching the surface and getting

Starting point is 00:15:15 to that potential. And if you're going to get a guy that might be a starter, it certainly feels like he might be the guy. And then shoot, if you've got Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Jones, and it just doesn't work out how you want it to this year. Well, you've got a guy who you can look into the next year for that. So I think McCord is pretty intriguing there. Uh, another underrated need for them is that running back Jonathan Taylor is obviously a star still, uh, but you know, he's going to be due like $15 million after this season. He's gonna be like 27.

Starting point is 00:15:46 He misses three and a half games a year like and they use him a lot like he accounted for over 80% of the offensive snaps and games that he played last year. So they need another guy. Kahlil Herbert I think was a really good pickup but I think they're still missing that guy. Hopefully more so one that is good in past pro. Uh, you look like Ollie Gordon is very willing. I love what he had to say at the, uh, the combine as well. RJ Harvey is another one who kind of talked the talk there.

Starting point is 00:16:14 Um, cam scatabows kind of a fan favorite around here. You know, the, the scrappy underdog type of guy that people seem to love. And then look what Alan is more of the pass catching type of guy that I'm looking for as well. Who talking about Syracuse there. So this is such a deep running back class. I really don't know who's going where. Like, you know, we're the top few when they're going to go, but it

Starting point is 00:16:36 seems like any, anybody else, it's just, you know, what role does this team want you to fill and that's where you're going to go. So when it comes to day three running back to maybe you're more so past protectors or past catchers who really stands out for you Well, one of my favorite guys that I think you can get on on on day Day three he might slip into into day two office calm out performance But his tape is good, but sure to Tuten from Virginia Tech. Okay, five nine about two or five to ten if I remember correctly He was one of the fastest players of prospects at the combo I think he ran a four three two in the four and I think it was the fastest running back for sure

Starting point is 00:17:15 Explosive leaper and when you watch him in pass, bro He oh he's not a type of guy that waits for the contact or he meets you as a free runner He meets you with contact. He's got that compact, dense, squatty build. He looks to inflict punishment as a pass protector. You can tell he takes pride in that. And I always say pass protection, it's a two-head sword because it's like defense in the NBA. It is a skill thing, but it's more so a will thing. So it's like, do you want to play defense? Like we can work on your shuffle

Starting point is 00:17:47 Like we can work on passing guys off and David things like that and squeezing guys to the next to your to your to your teammate But if you don't want to do it, then you're just gonna be horrible at it It's the same thing with pass protection I think but Shul tootin can absolutely bring that and he's a guy that like you said with Jonathan Taylor Potentially missing two to three games a year Having that backup running back That can also carry the load but sure can catch the ball in the backfield I think he needs a little bit more work in that in that regard to fully flush out that skill set of his but when you're

Starting point is 00:18:20 Dispute he runs hard. He finishes runs falling forward, right? Like that bowling ball, Ray Rice, Doug Martin type of build. But when you have four or three speed, then that's when it gets really exciting because it's like just one crease. If you don't fit the run well, it fits your lanes well, and you give him that crease, if he hits it at full speed and gets through the teeth of the defense, now it's a foot race and he has that track background that speed that sprinter speed and that's a guy I really like a lot in that particular situation Um, and I think you you know you look at this class another guy in terms of especially size and meets that Because at the end they always think about they you want to have that like you said RJ Harvey a Trevor ETN about, hey, you want to have that, like you said, RJ Harvey, Trevor Etienne, those guys I view as the RB, the complementary RBs, guys that they can stand up a little bit in pass protection, they can

Starting point is 00:19:11 catch the ball out of the backfield, they do a little bit of everything, they run the ball well. I think those guys, I absolutely like what they bring to the table, especially as day three prospects, but they got it because he ended up going to the combine testing, testing very well actually, especially from a speed standpoint, was running back Montreal Johnson at 511 to 12 He ran a 441 Jumped 35 and a half inches with 10 through broad this guy runs physical He's a physical and he has crazy enough. He has that experience with Anthony Richardson that was one of his lead running backs at Florida the last year was there and

Starting point is 00:19:43 Richardson, that was one of his lead running backs at Florida the last year he was there. And so you talk about understanding the mesh concept with a rich and you know, if average wins the job and different things of that nature, I think I think that makes a lot of sense for them. And you get a guy that Hey, if John Taylor's out two or three games, he has to build the athleticism, the physicality, the the run temperament downhill to be able to fill that role and fill it adequately. I liked that. Yeah. They, they just need a little bit more and explosiveness and big plays is always the

Starting point is 00:20:15 name of the game for them. Like they don't want to drop off, which is why it was so weird that Trace Herman was like their guy that they went to as RB two last year. But yeah, I don't think they're going to make that mistake. I want one other name. I want to throw out there to you real quick, Jake. He's not the, he's not going to be the past protector of the big run body, but my guy at the SMU,

Starting point is 00:20:35 just from a, from a pure pass catching standpoint, Bershard Smith, five nine seven eight one 94. And this got four three39 in the 40. He's explosive, he's dynamic. This is a former wide receiver that converted to running back. So for me, thinking about just the give safety valve and you know how much we look at Jameer Gibbs and what he's able to do. We've seen the James White to the world,

Starting point is 00:21:01 the Dion Lewis's of the world over the last 10, 15 years. Those running backs that can split out into the slot and pull defenses out of their disguise coverages and give your quarterback answers early before the ball is snapped. So it's like, okay, I motion him out, that linebacker's flowing with him, cool. I motion him, I got time on the clock, I'm gonna motion back across the formation and put him in the slot on the opposite side. If you can just consistently move, I'm gonna motion back across the formation and put them in the slot on the opposite side. If you can just consistently move, oh, I know this man. If not, if you

Starting point is 00:21:29 move back to your linebacker spot, the other guy bumps out, okay, you're just bumping out a gap for zone. And I kind of know what to look forward to post snap. Rashard Smith, a true receiving threat, and again, just giving the quarterback some extra safety valves. And as a runner, he's the guy that changes the pace. So he's talking about being with Jonathan Taylor. I look at it from aspect of having, you think about those college sets of pistol, having Bershaw Smith in the back behind Anthony Richardson. Having Jonathan Taylor as kind of the fullback.

Starting point is 00:22:03 You can run some triple option off of that. You could do different things and get really creative, cuz that young man has home run speed, but he's very elusive to make guys miss as well. I like that, and that's a good concept, cuz I mean, Shane Steichen is known for being very creative and kind of a whiz. But it just feels like they haven't had all the weapons necessary to make that happen.

Starting point is 00:22:23 I think they need more competence from the quarterback position as well. But yeah, giving, giving more versatility and more guys that can, can make things interesting for the defense. I think that really is, could be key to unlocking that offense. But, uh, coming up guys, we're going to talk about some less heralded guys. That may not be UDF phase, but they're probably going to be round, you know, round five, six, seven guys that just many people aren't talking about, but they might fit really well or just really outperform their draft stock. You guys have probably heard of Chewy. They really do have everything that you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. Whether you're shopping for food, treats, or even pet health healthcare, Chewy makes it fast, easy, and affordable.

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Starting point is 00:24:31 That's Houston quarterback Donovan Smith. He is actually the son as Hudson card from Purdue and the differences in velocity was just very notable to say the least. So Smith has got a good deep ball. He gets the ball there quickly. I'm imagining he can get it in tight windows and everything. Josh Carlin, offensive lineman from UCLA. That's a guy that has played pretty much everywhere. And then Seth Coleman, an edge, kind of a three, four outside linebacker from Illinois. That's what he played for the Illini. He told me that that's where teams see him. But I mean, for the Colts, I don't really know how feasible that will be. Maybe they would prefer him as kind of a big end. And then Elijah Ponder is like my number one, if you can get him on day

Starting point is 00:25:26 three, the Cal Poly kid, super athletic, really productive in college as well. Those are some of the guys who I think, you know, kind of find them under a rock a little bit, but they could wind up being good picks for you. Yeah, with Donovan Smith, especially when you have a QB room that looks like Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, too tall, good arm, good athletes, athletic profiles at the quarterback position. Donovan Smith makes a lot of sense, whether it's late day three or potentially as a undrafted free agent, the physical tools are there. Coming off of the 2023 season, he had so many flashes that year where people were buying in myself included

Starting point is 00:26:06 So listen if he has another year Albeit in this offense with these weapons like he could be a he could be a dark horse Potential late day one early day to pick the 225 NFL draft But he lost like I think two to three receivers through the transfer portal I think I think, yeah, Matthew Golden was one of them who's some people's all Hawaii receiver one right now in the class. Think about Matthew Golden still being there. Matthew Golden is gone. He goes to Texas. Sam Samuel Brown goes to Miami. I believe he lost one other guy as well. And I just, when I watched

Starting point is 00:26:40 him throughout the season, I was like, man, you're like this, it doesn't look like the same guy because he doesn't have those horses with him. And he was going to be somewhat of a project of a guy that you got to work with, get him to process quicker, anticipate throwing lanes a little bit better. But, you know, I think getting him, like I said, day three, potentially after the draft,

Starting point is 00:27:01 it's not bad value. It's actually pretty good value because he comes in as a camp arm, but also a guy that you can showcase. We saw what the, look what the Patriots just did with Joe Milton, right? They got a guy that played six years in college, had all the physical tools in the world, was never consistent or consistently accurate to the way that you would have wanted to buy in a little bit earlier in the draft. They dropped him what six, seventh round last year, then they flipped them the following off season as a backup and it's like, yeah, they probably, the fans did feel like, man, we didn't, they were excited after that week 18, week 17 performance against the backups that he had

Starting point is 00:27:40 and everything. And I've spent time with Joe Milton, great dude, hilarious, all that type of stuff but they weren't happy with that man we feel we could have gotten more but you can do the same thing with Donovan Smith where you give him that let that second half of the second pre of that you know that first preseason game the whole the whole second half of the whole game of the final preseason and he let him kind of show him off cuz I know Bill Belchick used to do the same when he had Tom Brady Belichick with draft quarterbacks, like he will always draft quarter. Matt, Matt Castle, Jimmy, that's how Brissette got to Indy was that preseason performance back in

Starting point is 00:28:16 like 2017. Yep. So it's like, it's never a bad thing to draft quarterbacks, not just to have them just in case of injury, but you know what, if we showcase you the right way through during showcase you the right way during pre-season, then we can flip you for a pick 14 that says, I like what he did in the pre-season. I think we could do some things with this guy, even if he's just our QB too. So I look at him, Seth Coleman, a guy I've watched. Yeah, I think he projects more as a stand up three like odd front

Starting point is 00:28:46 edge rusher for the most part but great motor good strong hands he can collapse the collapse the edge he bull rush as well. I got it I think it gives you some I think he's a guy that can give you some special teams value as well with his own punt coverage punt block kick coverage what have you and just being a Rotational guy if we've learned anything From the Philadelphia Eagles having a litany of guys that you can rotate in keep your guys fresh It never goes wrong for your team. It always good to have fourth quarter and Your Jalen Carter and your legs are fresh because you know what we can rotate some guys in we got Josh sweat coming in and we rotate him

Starting point is 00:29:29 around we got Nolan Smith coming off the bench tackles hate that stuff because they're playing all game you know they're playing they're not rotating there no we're the front we're the five we're out here yeah the office of tackles don't like this stuff to see athletic, fresh leg rushers who haven't played 20 snaps, 20% of the snaps in the game come off the bench on those key third downs. It was like, all right, like he's jacked up. He's got all the juice.

Starting point is 00:29:54 He's ready to roll. I got to get out the blocks. I know I'm tired. I got to get out these blocks. So I think those are guys that you talk about, just those late day three guys, potential UDFAs, I think those guys 100% fit that mold for me as well. And I mean, I think this, I've said this,

Starting point is 00:30:15 this running back class, teams are gonna get potential starters as potential undrafted free agents, right? I think that's absolutely gonna happen. You think about Taj, I got it out like, especially late in the draft from Texas Tech and everything, Taj Brooks, like this guy, he's built compact, you know, like that bowling ball,

Starting point is 00:30:37 he runs hard, he's got a little nuance to his game as a runner where you just kinda, you see him slip and move and evade as he's weaving through the line of scrimmage and even though he is physical enough he has the contact balance to take hits and give hits he doesn't have to and I love his ability to sidestep away from incoming defenders he's got good peripheral vision. He has that feel for where guys are and guys are diverging and converging on him coming downhill. And I honestly think that you can, you know, especially in this, this D tackle class is really good. I got it. I'm super intrigued by, I don't know. I really don't know how this is going to work out for But Desmond Watson from Florida, the big 464 pound, he's 6'5", 464.

Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't think I've ever seen anybody that's 6'5", and north of 400. Like this is insane to me like that. So to see him and him potentially being a guy that could potentially be nose. And you just tell me, just eat these gaps. Just control these gaps at 6, five of 460 pounds. Let our linebackers work freely and get to the football. And if you can give me a little push and reset the line of scrimmage a little bit, I'll take that too. I think this is a guy that, uh, late day three, the probably undrafted because somebody might take them as a, as a novelty piece. But listen,

Starting point is 00:32:03 we're going to just see what we can do with him But I definitely think he's a late-day three pick I love that pair him with one of those linebackers that really just shoots the gaps like pair him with jodd-cambell Like my age deal right there and just see it see how that works. I like that a lot. It's It will be funny just to see how that ends up for him like if he actually carves out a role, cause again, you gotta wonder how people are going to take him seriously. Cause honestly, like the bigger you are in athletic,

Starting point is 00:32:32 like that's endearing to teams, but then there's obviously like a certain level where they're like, okay, now you're too big. So too big. And we play you at different things like that. Yeah. The kind of role you can, you carve out. Yeah. So that, that'll be interesting. I liked that one a lot. So may get drafted, maybe not, but I mean, certainly going to be invited to kick the tires somewhere. So yeah. So thank you again,

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