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Episode Date: April 4, 2024The Indianapolis Colts are primed to add a potential combo of an explosive receiver and lockdown cornerback in the 2024 NFL Draft. During the pro day circuit, the Horseshoe Huddle crew was in person f...or several workouts and got a firsthand look at many early-round prospects. Who impressed them, and who do they think winds up with the Colts? The Indy Draft Guide's Pre-Orders are now open! For $8.99 with code DRAFTMAS, you get access to 225+ in-depth scouting reports, features, and much more. Click the link to Pre-Order today: https://draftguide.gumroad.com/l/indy24 Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://link.chtbl.com/LOColts?sid=YouTube📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ Locked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://linktr.ee/LockedOnNFL Follow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOnFN! Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!eBay MotorsFor parts that fit, head to eBay Motors and look for the green check. Stay in the game with eBay Guaranteed Fit at eBayMotos.com. Let’s ride. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply.RobinhoodRobinhood has the only IRA that gives you a 3% boost on every dollar you contribute when you subscribe to Robinhood Gold. Now through April 30th, Robinhood is even boosting every single dollar you transfer in from other retirement accounts with a 3% match. Available to U.S. customers in good standing. Robinhood Financial LLC (member SIPC), is a registered broker dealer.BetterHelpThis episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Make your brain your friend, with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/LOCKEDON today to get 10% off your first month.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelNew customers, join today and you’ll get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS if your first bet of FIVE DOLLARS or more wins. Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)
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It's anybody's guess what the Colts are going to do in the NFL draft in a few weeks.
But today we're going to tell you about the prospects that we want to watch work out in
person.
Let's get to it.
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today, so be good. Joining me today is most of the rest of
the Horseshoe Huddle crew. We got Andrew Moore, Sean McGinnis, and Drake Wally. So we've been
fortunate enough to make the rounds this pre-draft season. Sean and I were actually out at the Senior
Bowl. Andrew, Drake, and I were at Notre Dame. Andrew and I went to Toledo.
Shad went to LSU, and I was also out at Western Kentucky. So plenty of significant players to
talk about today, and we're just going to kind of go over some of those guys. There's a pair
of receivers that have really stood out, a couple of cornerbacks as well. And then, as we all know,
there's always the sideline players that make
their way into day three for the Colts. A lot of guys who I think it's going to be stumped the
truck a lot of the time with some of these guys on day three. We've heard a lot about how day
three of the draft is going to be just kind of whose guess, you know, because there's so many
guys who've transferred schools, guys who have been in college five, six years, they still have the COVID eligibility.
So we're going to kind of talk about some of those peripheral players as well.
But again, everybody, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us today.
Let's go ahead and talk first about a pair of wide receivers, Brian Thomas Jr. and Malachi Corley.
So, Shad, you were our boots on the ground there at LSU.
Why don't you go ahead and tell us a little bit about how Thomas stood out?
Yes, Brian Thomas was there in support early on for his teammates, Malik Neighbors and a couple of other guys who actually did some of the testing that they wasn't able to do at the combine.
And even things like that, little things like that, how you support your teammates,
how you engage with them are things I think the Colts look at as well. You know, a lot of teams may overlook things of that nature,
but I think it just shows how passionate he is and the type of rapport that he has with his teammates.
You know, some players are off to
the side or spending time with their families while other guys are testing, but he's engaging
full-fledged. He's hyped up. He's celebrating with Malik neighbors after he runs his 40.
And that was just early on, before he actually got on the field and showed some of the things he can do. I mean, we know about Brian Thomas.
He's nearly 6'3", nearly 210 pounds, 4'3", 340.
And all of that was on display.
He was one of those guys that actually plays the same way as he tests.
You know, he's not one of those guys where it doesn't show up on film.
The speed is there.
The size is there.
He looks a lot bigger in person um but the
things i was looking forward to the most was do you feel his presence when he's actually on the
field you know some of those guys that that has that size they disappear when you get a chance
to watch them in person and brian thomas didn't do that he rose to the occasion he ran several routes
which was a big part of his game he didn't get a chance to run a lot of variation of routes when he was at LSU. So, you know,
Malik Neighbors was the guy who was asked to do the bulk of the heavy lifting from a route runner
perspective. So a lot of people and a lot of teams wanted to see that from Brian Thomas. And he
displayed it. He ran corners, posts, digs, comebacks, and he showed excellent hands, excellent bursts off the line of scrimmage, the size, acrobatic catches.
All of it was on display in his performance at LSU.
I walked away really impressed, and everybody probably knows how high I was on heading into that.
And Drake and Andrew, whichever you want to take it first.
You know, Thomas is one of the
most commonly mocked receivers to the Colts at 15 uh you know you've got your Xavier Worthy's
AD Mitchell's guys like that uh but Thomas just is very cultish you know he's got the great razz
he has the size athleticism his play style is what the Colts are really looking for. So what's your vibe?
Is that one of your primary receivers for the Colts there at 15?
Is that who you're really looking at?
I think so.
I think when you're looking at Brian Thomas Jr.,
I think you put him right up there with Xavier Worthy
as probably the top two options, top two realistic options
for the Indianapolis Colts there at the wide receiver position,
at least in the first round. He's got the size, I mean, six foot three, over 200 pounds, 4'3",
40. He's the deep threat that this Colts team wants, but he's not just a deep threat. I think
everyone sees Brian Thomas Jr. making all these highlight plays, catching all these deep balls
from Jaden Daniels, the 17 touchdowns to lead the SEC, and you think that that's really, that might be all he can do. But
when you really dive into the film, you can see the different nuances that Brian Thomas Jr. has
to his game, the ability to work over the middle, the ability to take the ball and use his
athleticism in and create yards after catch.
Just because LSU didn't ask him to do a lot of that stuff because, as Shad said,
Malik Nabors was really the receiver that was carrying the load.
Just because they didn't ask him to do that doesn't mean he can't do that.
And I think he's shown that through this pre-draft process,
really answered a lot of those questions.
And the more you watch him on film, the more you can see,
you know, all the tools are there for Brian Thomas Jr. to really develop into a great all-around
wide receiver and a potential wide receiver one in the NFL. You know, the athleticism is there,
the hands are there. He might need to work on some of his contested catch stuff. That was something
that showed up on film to me. But hey,'re getting a guy that that has all the tools there that you can really
mold especially within the Colts situation with Reggie Wayne you know working with Reggie Wayne
to teach him the nuances of the game the route running aspect in the NFL I mean putting him in
the right situation the sky's the limit for Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, and luckily for the Colts, I mean, they have time to wait.
You know, Alec Pierce is still out there.
They're not looking to force anyone's hand right away.
Drake, so what do you see when you watch Thomas?
Well, I see a guy that really fits Shane Steichen's offense well.
You know, I know that Alec Pierce, kind of similar build.
Alec Pierce also had kind of similar combine performances,
but me and Andrew had talked about this.
We do think that Pierce probably doesn't have the ceiling that Thomas does.
Plus, if you look at the combine breakdown,
he has short area shake to get open underneath.
He's got ability to get very explosive very quickly,
and he's also got great tracking of the ball.
You got a deep thrower like Anthony Richardson and a coach who just
countlessly keeps saying, you know, explosive this and explosive that.
That's a great recipe, you know?
And I like how I can't remember.
I think it was Andrew that mentioned the realistic options are him and worthy.
I think that you're getting, you know, a guy that's got length.
I think that he's got ability to get the, you know,
the deep balls to really open up the underneath stuff for the offense, but also he blocks.
You know, he gets down the field and he puts in a lot of effort.
And Shad mentioning, you know, hey, this is a guy, do you want to feel their presence?
You know, what are they doing?
The Colts value stuff like that.
They value that effort stuff.
It's great to have a receiver that puts up numbers, but when push comes to shove,
you want a guy who's going to do everything. And the Colts kind of have that with
Pittman. They've got that with Pierce and they can absolutely also have that with Bryant Thomas Jr.
Yeah. Zach and I talked about that the other day when discussing, you know, what kind of receiver
they really need. Like, I don't want to call Pierce a one trip pony, but like he is a specialist at
what he does. You know what I mean? He's a vertical threat, and plus he's a great blocker as well,
but he's not got the well-rounded game.
So if you bring in one of these burners,
it can't just be another downfield specialist.
It's also got to be a guy who wins his matchups quickly,
gets open right away.
He can create yards after catch.
I think, you know, that brings more versatility.
So speaking of yards after catch, I went and you know, that, that brings more versatility. So speaking of yards after catch,
I went and saw the yak King, um, guy Corley down at Western Kentucky. Uh, that's a guy who, uh,
he had COVID during the combine. So he wasn't able to work out there and he wasn't able to,
to meet with a lot of teams either. So he caught up on a lot of that at his pro day.
Uh, he ran four, four, five, uh, I think unofficially. That's what I had for him on his 40. So he
answered a big question mark there because being a guy who he got force fed the ball a lot. Like
if you watch how Ohio State used Paris Campbell in his final year there is pretty similar. Like
a guy who is able to do a lot of things, but was just force fed the ball on a lot of like slants
bubbles really quick stuff um so he ran a really wide variety of routes at the end of it too uh so
that was good to see there were some scouts particularly like from the steelers who had
him running a few extra routes at the end of the workout just so they could see that he could run
it run it crisply and uh I mentioned this after I went there.
You know, Steve Smith is like one of his bigger proponents in this draft.
And, of course, last year, Steve Smith's guy was Josh Downs.
So, you know, you make that little connection there.
But Corley is definitely, I think, not as likely as Brian Thomas.
Corley, of course, would have to be a guy on round two or three.
But when you look at rounds, really two to four,
I think you get a huge hunk of receivers, and Corley is just one of them.
I think that would be good for them to get a guy who can stretch vertically.
I mean, he's not a burner.
He's 4'4", 5", so it's decent.
But the yards after catch is really what you're looking for.
But you put him kind of in the mix with Xavier Leggett
and some of these other guys that can – they're bigger.
They're what guys want to emulate in a Debo Samuel type.
Even Brandon Aiyuk.
Do you guys – what are your thoughts on Malachi Corley?
Because, again, obviously the temperature is a little cooler on him than Thomas when it comes to the Colts, but still could be a decent fit.
I mean, they had like three or four people out there watching him.
Yeah, Corley, to me, is very rare when you talk about the attributes, a guy's best attribute when you're describing a wide receiver and you use contact balance.
But the guy just has great balance.
After he has the ball in his hands, it's such a unique skillset.
You know,
I know a lot of people go instantly to Devo Samuel with the way he's used.
Cordell Patterson is,
is another guy that I think is used very similarly as Malachi Corley.
You just tried to get the ball in his hands. And you can tell Western
Kentucky, the plan was just to get the ball to him, you know, in any shape, form, or fashion.
So I think he had a lot to prove this offseason as a traditional wide receiver. You know, I think
Debo Samuel still answering questions about whether he can be a traditional wide receiver in the NFL
and how good he can be at that level. And I think Malachi Corley is going to have the same challenge.
But I think he did silence a lot of his doubters with the performance that he put on this offseason
because running a 4-4-5, I think that's slightly faster than what Debo ran.
He shows that he does have that top-end explosion, something a lot of people question
because everything's just so physical with him.
And he has the body for it
but they wanted to know if he can really run away guys can you just make guys miss and get up field
against NFL caliber talent you know that was the biggest question so he he silenced a lot of people
I think at the senior bowl he ran some routes he played really well for what they what they
asked him to do there you know he didn't show off
an extensive route tree but he showed a lot more than what he was asked to do in college
and I think that was important for him but as far as what I think of him as a talent man just get
the ball in a guy like that's hands and I think that's what Shane primary focus would be with a
guy like that is to find different and unique ways to get him the ball. Probably what we saw a lot in training camp and what we thought Isaiah McKenzie was going to be for this team
is probably more likely what you will see with Malachi Corley,
because I think he can fill a role like that and actually expand it as he grows within the offense.
Yeah, I think with the new kickoff return rules, that helps having a guy like that as well.
Like actually maybe a boost in the kickoff return rules that helps having a guy like that as well like actually maybe a boost in the kickoff return numbers uh but andrew and drake what do you i don't know if you guys have dug
into corley much um but just looking at a guy who's more yak than he is vertical like how do
you think that fits into this offense yeah i think i think it's i i do think that with a guy like
malachi corley the situation that he is drafted into is really going to matter, you know, because if he is asked to do something like to be a traditional wide receiver
all the time, I don't think you're going to be able to maximize his talent. It's going to take
a good offensive mind like a Shane Steichen, a Kyle Shanahan, a Sean McVay, a guy that really
wants to put their players in the best position to succeed
and uses their strengths to really accentuate their game.
So I like what Shad said, kind of put him in the Isaiah McKenzie role.
You know, be not necessarily maybe strictly a gadget guy,
but you can use him on a lot of misdirections, a lot of end arounds.
But you want to get the ball out to him quickly and let him go to work. That's what he's best at. The Colts definitely struggled last year in
creating yards after catch. So it would certainly be an area of need and something that I think the
Colts would be able to use really well, considering you're having that plus one quarterback game where
you've got Anthony Richardson, Jonathan Taylor there in the backfield. You can use a lot of misdirection stuff to get the ball out to Malachi Corley and let him
go to work. So it's maybe not the traditional, quote unquote, explosive threat that you might
think the Colts might add, but I think he could open up a lot of explosive plays depending on how
you use him. And I think I would trust Shane Steichen would be able to use Corley's talents to to really help open up this offense and just just
overall make it more dynamic yeah and uh kind of going based off of what Andrew said you know
there's different forms of explosive you know obviously Brian Thomas he's you know a burner
he's a vertical guy you know he's afield threat. He can do other things as well.
But Malachi Corley runs a slower 40-yard dash.
He's not as explosive as far as acceleration or speed.
But where he gets that yardage is from being elusive.
It's from finding really good spots to catch the ball,
sitting down in the proper spots when it's zone,
and getting separation in man coverage. And so I think it it's zone and, you know, getting separation,
you know, in man coverage. And so I think it's going to also kind of like Andrew said,
the situation is going to be big. It's going to really help them if there's a couple of playmakers. And, you know, hypothetically, if it's with the Colts, you've got Michael Pittman
out there, you've got Josh Downs out there. And yes, Alec Pierce still does serve a purpose,
even when he's not out there, you know, catching consistent passes,
you're going to open up things for a guy like Malachi Corley.
And, you know, it can't be stressed enough.
Shane Steichen knows what the hell he's doing.
I mean, the guy, the guy did a fantastic job with very little.
I think that he could really maximize a guy like Malachi Corley's talents or
someone that's like Shane Steichen, kind of like what Andrew said.
Yeah. This off season is kind of telling us they,
they're putting a lot of eggs in that Shane. Yeah, this off season is kind of telling us they're putting a
lot of eggs in that Shane Steichen basket for this season. But coming up, we're going to go
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All right.
That was a lot of talking.
So next,
Andrew,
we're going to head East from Indy over to Toledo.
Of course,
Quinnian Mitchell did not work out at the Toledo pro day.
He did not need to.
The dude aced every step of the pre-draft process.
Started out being arguably the best player at the Senior Bowl.
Shad, you can back me up on that one. And then at the Combine, had a great workout. He was bigger and faster than Terryon Arnold. So by that point of Toledo's pro day, he was basically like,
what else can I do to stamp myself as CB1? And by this point, you could probably make a pretty good argument.
So Drizzy Drake, we'll go ahead and start with you on this one.
What are your thoughts on Mitchell?
Because that's the most commonly mocked guy at 15 at the Colts.
Well, I think that, you know, starting off with the size,
I think that he's that Gus Bradley type corner.
He's got elite athleticism.
I mean, you look at the Raz score it fits you know the the ballard
archetype but really it's it's also you're getting yourself a guy who is going to be a starter
potentially right out of the gate you know you're getting yourself a guy who can play all the types
of coverages he's very well he's very like well-rounded i do think that um obviously there's
going to be room to grow but you're putting him if he room to grow, but you're putting him, if he goes to the Colts, you're putting him with Juju Brents.
You're putting him with Dallas Flowers, who I still think people might be forgetting about.
He actually had a pretty good run there before he got hurt.
You're putting him with Kenny Moore.
And if they do decide to bring in a veteran in free agency, you're putting Mitchell in a decent situation to succeed.
Now, will he go to the Colts?
That's the big question.
I think that he's the most likely option, at least at the highest point, of cornerback.
But, yeah, I think that he would be an absolutely outstanding addition.
It's just really a matter of how quickly will his feet hit the ground at the pro level.
Take it away, Shad.
You saw him down at the Senior Bowl as well.
Yeah, man. take it away shod you saw him down at the at the senior bowl as well yeah man quenya mitchell um he probably the guy who roses stocked the most this offseason honestly you arguably at any position you know this was the guy that he was barely scratching
the surface as being around one pick probably when he played this last collegiate game. And ever since then, he just dominated.
He went to the senior bowl.
I believe he gave up one catch maybe in one-on-one.
I believe to even Roman Wilson or Ricky Pearsall.
I can't remember which one of those guys.
But he was just flat out dominant.
All the people that had the questions about his level of competition
because he was at Toledo. He answered all of those.
He matched up with every receiver pretty much at the Senior Bowl,
and he more than held his own.
Him working out and performing better than Terry Arno at the combine,
a guy who I had as my cornerback one, you know,
before this offseason process really got underway, was big for him,
you know, to prove to people that, okay, I did it against
good competition at the senior bowl, but now I'm going to perform with my peers and out-test them
in a basically an even environment. When you all place us in the same environment, I'm going to
stand out. I'm going to solidify myself as the guy. But as far as him as a player, I actually
think he's so talented. The minute he
walks into Indianapolis, if he's drafted, he's the best outside corner on their roster immediately.
And I'm a guy that's high on Juju Brent. I think Juju Brent's really talented.
Quinn Mitchell just has the ability to be special. Toledo used it mostly off coverage,
but he showed that he can play press man at the senior bowl. He played press man pretty
much in every one on one, one, one V one drill. I'm sorry. And he performed exceptional. The foot
speed, he doesn't get beat deep. He has the ability to get physical at the line of scrimmage,
getting your hip mirror and match the receiver on pretty much any route that's thrown his way.
I think he's also good in zone coverage. I like his eyes.
The ball skills is obviously there.
There's not anything else you can want in a corner
that Quinnian Mitchell doesn't offer.
And the only sad part about him performing as well as offseason,
he might have played himself out of the close draft range, actually.
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see where Mitchell actually falls.
Because if he is there at 15, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Colts run up the card, theoretically, because not only does, as Drake mentioned, not only does he fit in Gus Bradley's scheme as a good, you know, off man, he plays good in off coverage, plays well in press man, but he fits well with what the Colts already have at cornerback. You look outside with Gigi Brents, he's that long cornerback,
a guy that is really physical, maybe not the fastest cornerback,
but can certainly gain a lot of ground because of how big he is,
great in run support.
Quinion Mitchell is a guy that's 6'2", 200 pounds or so,
but that 4'3 speed,
he's the guy that you're going to be able to stick on those burner-type receivers,
and you don't have to worry about it.
And the play that really sticks in my mind last year was,
and I know it didn't help that the coverage broke down with the safeties,
but in that Week 18 game against the Houston Texans
where Nico Collins just took off from Juju
Brents last year and they weren't able to keep up.
You don't have to worry about that with Quinion Mitchell.
You can have a guy over on that other side that has that speed, the ball hawking ability,
six interceptions the past two seasons, over 40 passes defended at his time at Toledo,
which is a school record.
So he has insane ball skills. And the
crazy thing is, is he still has room to improve. You know, there are still some areas in his
technique as far as far as, you know, he turns his hips a little bit early, but but he can recover
that at least he showed he could recover in college. It's going to be a little bit more
difficult in the NFL. But again, this guy hasn't reached his ceiling. He still has a great
ceiling and he's got all the traits there to be a lockdown corner for the Colts that they really
haven't had since Vontae Davis. Yeah. And man, that's, it's crazy because you, you look at
the receiver talent in this draft and it's really, really deep. And I think the corner talent is
pretty top heavy as well, but it kind of starts to Peter out around, you know, once you get out of the top 50 or so,
but one of those guys who I think makes a really strong case for the top 50 and maybe the Colts
pick there at like 46, uh, Cam Hart from Notre Dame, uh, shot, that's a guy that I know you're
really high on you. You and I talked right after the senior bowl and you went
on a whole thing about him and all he's done is keep him improving his stock yeah man I mean a
guy that tall that long that physical I know you guys know him well from his collegiate days but
he's built in a Gus Bradley lab in my my opinion. Like if Gus Bradley could design a cornerback, it would be Cam Hart.
The guy, hearing him talk, I heard an interview with him,
and he said he wanted to prove that he can be just as quick as the smaller guys
that's among his peers.
And I think he showed that with some of his testing numbers.
And the way he moves out there is not of a typical 6'2", stiff cornerback.
Those two, that guy alongside with Juju Brents on the outside,
will make the Colts one of the most physically imposing cornerback rooms instantly.
You know, I know Cam Hart may not start day one like a Quinion Mitchell is,
but the group of young talent that's on the Col's roster that he'll be able to compete with,
I think would only make whoever does win that CB2 battle just that much better because there's a group of young guys between Juju, Dallas Flowers, Jalen Jones, Cam Hart.
He would fit right in with those guys.
But I think physically he has the higher ceiling because of his what he can do physically as a cornerback. Some of those guys just can't do because you're not six to two plus 200 pounds with over 32 inch arms.
You know, all traits that the coach value at a high level.
And I know if Gus Bradley had any say in the matter, I think Cam Hart would be in the Napa Coast if there was anything he can do about it.
Yeah. And Drake, I mean, we were there for Cam Hart's workout.
It didn't even look like he was going to work out at first,
but the guy got loosened up and he went out and he was probably the first
or second best player on Notre Dame's field that day.
Yeah, and seeing him in person, kind of going back to what Shad said,
he truly is the perfect fit for Bradley's
defense because you're talking about 6'3", you're talking about 200 pounds, you're talking about the
long arms, you're talking about freaky traits. Now, you know, movement and just like outright
speed are a couple of different things because Juju Brents pretty much ran the same 40-yard time
as Hart. So you're not looking for Hart to go out there and cover your speedy receivers.
But look, if you're looking for like a physical man-up guy,
you're looking for a zone-type corner, I mean, I think he could potentially be a steal,
you know, if he's picked in like round three or something like that.
But yeah, I think he would be a great fit for the Colts.
And I think NFL.com has good backup with the potential to develop into a starter.
You know what, if the Colts got Cam Hart for that, I mean, that'd be exactly what they need.
So I think that he would fit perfectly.
And there's a bunch of defenses in the league that could probably use a guy like that.
Yeah, Andrew.
Well, the thing that I was really watching with Cam Hart at his pro day were his hips.
How quickly can he turn his hips and get,
get up field and seeing him at field level. I mean, all my concerns about that went, went right
out the door. You know, he's, he, he's a very long strider. So he covers ground very quickly.
He's very fluid with his hips can really turn. And, and if a receiver starts to gain ground,
you know, that's, that's's that's huge to be able to stay
with that receiver so you know we we've seen cam hart do that on a physical level and then the tape
really matches too i mean some of his best games were were at notre dame were up against some of
his toughest competition i go to that game against ohio state against against marvin harrison jr
where some of his best reps of his entire collegiate career came against
arguably the best wide receiver in college football, a top five pick in this year's draft.
So he really thrives on that competition. It brings out the best in Cam Hart. And when you
think about the Legion of Boom days with Gus Bradley back in Seattle. He had those really tough physical cornerbacks on the outside,
like you'd probably feature Hall of Famer Richard Sherman, you know,
not comparing Juju Brents and Cam Hart to Richard Sherman,
but the body type is there.
The long, physical guys that can really excel in zone coverage,
smart individuals too that have a really good high
really high football iq and that's what cam hart brings so the colts don't go cornerback in round
one with a quinnion mitchell or a terry and arnold you know cam hart in round two not bad not a bad
consolation prize in my opinion yeah no doubt because i mean i think a lot of us if we're
drawing it up it's receiver and cornerback in the first two rounds or flip flop it.
Like, I think we all would like to see some sort of combination of that, at least through the first few rounds.
So coming up, you know, again, we went through the pro day circuit over the last month or so.
We talked about the big guys, but as we know, they're after seven rounds.
Who are some of the other guys that really stood out to us?
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so this one, probably not as much to talk about, but I'll just tell you some of the peripheral guys
that really stood out to me throughout some of these pro days.
At Notre Dame's pro day, running back Audrick Estime, I thought he kind of answered some questions similarly to how Malachi Corley did.
He ran a really good 40 time.
He got, it was like four sevens at the combine, but he was in the four fives at the pro day.
So he looked really good. His running back coach put him
through his workout and I thought they did a good job showing all of his strengths and
showing some traits that could make him a three down back. Out at Toledo, linebacker Dallas Gant,
I thought had a really good pro day. The transfer from Ohio State, I thought he had a really good
field workout in particular,
and he did a lot of good things that show up in terms of being a really solid coverage linebacker.
Good change of direction, the good hips.
He was very quick and fast all over the field.
Same pro day.
Actually, I had two other guys at that same pro day.
They were kind of local regional invites.
Yale wide receiver Mason Tipton,
that guy jumped out of the gym, both broad and vertical. He ran a 4-3-1 in the 40 and was the
best receiver of the field workouts as well. He's getting a little bit of NFL interest,
so I don't know if he's going to be a seventh round pick or anything, but he might be a priority
UDFA for some teams.
And then Youngstown state interior offensive lineman,
Ryan Johnson.
I thought he moved really well out there,
had really good feet.
So shot,
I'll go ahead and start with you when you were out at LSU.
Obviously that is one of the bigger programs in the country and they had the stars,
Jaden Daniels,
Malik neighbors,
Brian Thomas, but was there anyone else that stood out to you
oh you're on me bud
sorry about that but uh omar spates omar space linebacker for lsu uh believe he measured in at
about six feet six one uh 230's a pretty solid pro day.
Guy actually moves really well.
He did some pass rushing drills,
but I think it's important for the multiple roles of a linebacker,
a lot of things that you're asked to do.
You want to see change of direction from those guys.
You want to see them in pass rush situations.
You actually want to see them drop back in the coverage as well
and cover some ground so
I think he did displayed all of that he showed really really soft hands when when he was throwing
the football and right now I'm looking kind of trying to see where his projection is and they
have him as a mid to late day three guy and I know sometimes at the at that point when you're
projected to go late day three some of those guys prefer to be UDFAs.
And if he's one of those guys, then I think he may find his way onto somebody's roster who can contribute immediately in a special teams role.
What about you, Drake? Anyone out there at Notre Dame?
Yeah, you know, well, first off, Audrick Estime looked absolutely fantastic.
I don't think that he is even a realistic option for the Colts,
but looked like a unit.
I did like what I saw with Blake Fisher.
He's the other tackle that isn't Joe Alt,
but he looked really good in his drills.
I do think that he's just a skosh under the athleticism threshold
that the Colts need or that they want before they're going to take a depth tackle.
I mean, just look at the RAS score for Blake Freeland and then compare it to Blake Fisher.
They're quite a bit different, but I did think Fisher showed some good promise.
And then Marist Lufau is a coverage linebacker I think could really help Indianapolis out.
Saguna Luby also showed some good, I think, coverage ability, but I still think Indianapolis
needs to solidify that coverage linebacker spot.
It's not really Zyre Franklin or EJ's thing. So I think that potentially he might even be an undrafted free agent, but definitely could fit Gus Brathen's defense
pretty well. Andrew, close us out, buddy. I think at Toledo, you don't looking for a coverage
linebacker. Look no further than Dallas Gant. Jake mentioned it. You know, that field work was
very impressive. A guy that could move and you could see the explosiveness all around the field
someone that could really cover from sideline to sideline get to the ball quickly just look really
fluid in his action so he's a guy on day three that again he he has played up to competition
there at Ohio State uh went down to the Mac and was first team all Mac
there at Toledo. So a guy on day three that if you're wanting to come in to start on special
teams, kind of the EJ Speed, Zyre Franklin route, start on special teams and kind of develop your
game until you earn more snaps on the defense side of the ball. I mean, Dallas Gant is a name
to watch out for Colts fans on day three.
Yep. I like that one a lot. So that is it for us, everybody. We obviously went a little long today,
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