Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts' Grover Stewart Suspended 6 Games, Anthony Richardson Likely Done for Year

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Indianapolis Colts have lost star nose tackle Grover Stewart for the next six weeks. Can the run defense recover? Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast making us your first listen today. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello, everyone.

Starting point is 00:00:40 I am Zach Hicks, your favorite co-host here on the Locked On Colts Podcast. You can find my work over at horseshoehuddle.com, where, according to Jake, I'm the rootinest, tootinest film guy out there in the indie market. Jake is missing today's episode. He has been dealing with a cold or whatever the heck he's been dealing with for the last like two weeks, so he's finally getting that checked out. You guys know how we are as adults. We wait way too long to go to the doctor to get our things checked out.

Starting point is 00:01:05 So hopefully Jake is doing much better right now. Today we're going to have a bit of a somber episode because the topics on today's show are just, man, they stink. They really, really do stink when it comes to just Colts news. We're going to kick it off talking about the Grover Stewart suspension and what this means for the Indianapolis Colts and especially for the run defense. Then we're going to jump to Anthony Richardson, the likely being out for the season with shoulder surgery. That's going to be the likely option according to reports. We're going to talk about that and then we're going to try to bring it back to some positivity in the final segment talking about this overall rookie class from 2023 and how, you know, the

Starting point is 00:01:42 early returns are actually pretty solid for the Annapolis Colts. But again, we'll save the positivity for the end. We'll see if you guys make it that far without crying in the first couple of segments, because first we're going to kick it off with Grover Stewart. Unfortunately, on Tuesday, we were all informed that nose tackle Grover Stewart is going to be suspended for the next six games due to failing the NFL's policy on, I think it was, I don't want to say steroids, but on performance enhancing drugs. You know, what we see typically with these types of suspensions is it's not like the

Starting point is 00:02:14 classic thing you think of when you think of performance enhancing drugs type of things where it's like a guy shooting up with a needle like the Russians back in the old Olympic days or something like that. It's not something like that. It's more so the player took a medication that they didn't realize had a substance that was on the NFL's ban list. So that player unfortunately got suspended for this thing. I'm not saying that's exactly what happened with Grover, but according to his apology and according to some other people, what other people are saying, it kind of seems like it's that scenario.

Starting point is 00:02:44 It's very similar to the Robert Mathis suspension nearly a decade ago or over a decade ago at this point where he took pills for something else. It happened to have a substance that was banned for the NFL and he got hit with that suspension. It seems like that's what happened with Grover Stewart and his apology that he issued out on Instagram. He said he needs to be more aware with what's going into his body. And that is ultimately on him. But again, it doesn't seem like it was just him taking steroids like Barry Bonds or Mark McGuire or something like that. But regardless of the situation or the facts or whatever around this, Grover Stewart is out the next six weeks. And that is a massive, massive

Starting point is 00:03:23 blow to this Indianapolis Colts defense a defense that I think the last two weeks has started to kind of figure things out a little bit more I know they gave up 37 points against the Jacksonville Jaguars but they only gave up like 260 yards that defense looked pretty solid for most of the day a couple communication issues in the red zone but again for the most part I think the Colts defense played a lot better than what the 37 points said last week. Now losing Grover Stewart, though, that's just a big hit to the overall team and also to their run defense. Grover Stewart, one of the best run defending nose tackles in football, off to another extremely strong start this year. A lot of run stops, a lot of penetration,

Starting point is 00:03:58 a lot of disruption from the interior. So losing him, I mean, it hurts the run defense. You guys know what has traditionally happened with this Colts run defense when either him or DeForest Buckner have missed time. Typically the leaks get out there and guys in opposing running backs end up having big games against the Colts. I mean, we look back against the Los Angeles Rams a couple of weeks ago when it wasn't Grover Stewart that missed time. It was DeForest Buckner who missed a lot of the base down, the run defensive snaps. And as a result, Kyron Williams, without having many rush yards over expected,

Starting point is 00:04:32 like he wasn't breaking many tackles, had well over 100 yards in that game just from the big holes that were up front from the Rams offensive line, just paving the way over the Colts' backup defensive tackles. So when you're looking at the projection going forward for the Colts defensive line, this really hurts. This really hurts him.

Starting point is 00:04:50 It really hurts the Colts linebackers and their ability to get through unscathed because Grover Stewart just attracts so much attention on the interior. And guys that are going to be up there to replace him, you know, Taven Bryan, Eric Johnson, Adetomi Adebore. Those guys just aren't the same caliber player as a Grover Stewart. So kind of going forward for the rest of the season and looking at what the Colts could do on the defensive line, I think we're going to see a heavy dose of Eric Johnson in at one tech, which I think for me would be the preferred option. Put more Eric Johnson in there than Taven Bryan.

Starting point is 00:05:21 But when Taven Bryan gets out there, you'll probably see DeForest Buckner switch down to one tech and play more of that Grover Stewart type of role. And then we'll see a little bit more out of Tomi Adebore at times. I wouldn't rule out calling up McTelvin Aguim, who's on the practice squad, who looked really good in the preseason, a guy who has some experience in the NFL. But, you know, when I'm saying all those names there, it's like, oh man, they really need a run stuffer. They need someone who can just get in there and clog up run lanes or just do like what Grover Stewart can at like 50% of the level. Like that's all I'm really asking here, but I don't really think they have that guy here because the big thing with a Gus Bradley stylized defense is they're going to stop the run on the way to the passer. It's all about disruption. It's about penetrating that gap, blowing up the play early. And if you run into the running back while you're on your way to the

Starting point is 00:06:08 passer, great. Now, when you have a player like Grover Stewart, who attracts so much attention, who can fill those gaps effortlessly and disrupt on the interior constantly, that just throws off opposing run games so much. When you lose a player like Grover Stewart, and say you throw in a Taven Bryan, where your options on every player are either disruption, which you might get like once in a blue moon, or him getting blown off the ball by a double team, that obviously leads to a lot more success for opposing run games. And same goes for an Eric Johnson, who Eric Johnson may not get blown up as much as Taven Bryan, but he's just not that disruptor on every single play like we see with Grover Stewart. So yeah, the Colts run defense is going to be in some dire straits the next couple weeks,

Starting point is 00:06:48 and they have a couple tough matchups. The Cleveland Browns typically run the ball really well, even without Nick Chubb. After that, they have the New Orleans Saints and Alvin Kamara. That's going to be another tough matchup. And then, you know, a little bit easier with the Panthers and the Patriots. But again, later in the season when they have some other teams they're playing against, it's going to be some tough sledding. They still have the Tennessee Titans again this season,

Starting point is 00:07:10 which without Grover Stewart going against Derrick Henry, who knows what that matchup is going to look like. So yeah, tough way to start off this show, talking Grover Stewart suspension. Hopefully he's able to come back stronger and better when he's back from his six weeks out. But for the time being, just a needless, needless thing that just didn't need to happen.

Starting point is 00:07:29 Losing one of the best overall players on the defense out for some time. It just blows, man. It blows. And we're going to keep this train of negativity going into segment two and talk about rookie quarterback Anthony Richardson likely being done for the year due to shoulder surgery, according to reports. Our partners at eBay Motors have teamed up with Locked On Fantasy Football host Vinny Iyer to bring you some of the best fantasy picks each week all season long. Whether you're prepping for daily draft or scouting the waiver wire,

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Starting point is 00:10:25 one, just came out for like the last two plays, but still missed some time in that one as well. Yeah, just an unfortunate series of injuries. And for a fan base that's scarred by the Andrew Luck injuries, who's scarred by the Paris Campbell injuries, obviously, some of them can be charted up to bad luck, but also you got to look at it as like you don't want to see this many injuries piling up early early on for your young quarterback or for one of your young players on your team but Stephen Holder of ESPN did say that Jim Ursae in a conversation with him did say that like the surgery is likely to repair that grade three AC joint sprain when it comes to the surgery on that, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that ligaments are torn. Actually, we've seen some good reports saying that there are

Starting point is 00:11:09 no ligaments torn in there, but the surgery is just to fix that shoulder displacement, get things back to where it's supposed to go. And again, you don't want to mess with the throwing shoulder too much because if you just try to have it naturally heal for, you know, without surgery, then it could heal the wrong way. It could stay displaced, stuff like that. So they want to go in there. They want to get that fixed. They want to take it easy with him. And I think the recovery time is going to be about four to six months. So that does rule out any chance of him coming back this season if he does get that surgery. And again, it's just unfortunate because what we saw what we saw from Anthony Richard this year is a much more developed passer than what I

Starting point is 00:11:45 think any of us expected. He's had some really, really good moments, a lot of really good things he did against the Los Angeles Rams a couple weeks ago. He really flashed some high-level playmaking, some high-level ability as a passer. We saw in the Titans game before he left early, that deep shot to Josh Downs, the ripping the whole shot to Drew Ogletree over the middle. There was just a lot of really good things for him as a passer this year. So maybe when he comes back next season, you know, you lean more into the passing and kind of take away a little bit of the run game. But again, what makes him so special is that ability as a runner is what he can do on offense

Starting point is 00:12:19 as a runner. It's just it's not worth sacrificing his body for it. You know, it's it's It's such a horrible situation. So yeah, Anthony Richardson likely done for the year with that shoulder surgery. We'll see what the Colts ultimately end up doing with that. They still have to make that decision. They still have to undergo the surgery. We've got to see if the surgery is a success

Starting point is 00:12:36 and then go from there, out getting him reworked and ready for next season. Now I will say when it comes to shoulder surgery on the throwing shoulder, we don't have too many examples of players undergoing that on that throwing shoulder in the databases that I've looked at. I mean, Matthew Stafford is obviously the biggest example. Matthew Stafford in his first season had a grade two shoulder sprain or AC joint sprain, ended up playing through that, ended up re-injuring that same shoulder which was ended up being a grade three has shoulder surgery in his second season came back

Starting point is 00:13:11 and I think had like six straight seasons where he didn't miss a game you know so he played like 13 of his first 32 games and then he did not miss a game for like six straight seasons after that so it doesn't necessarily mean that he's done you know Anthony Richardson's done because of the shoulder surgery or that he's going to miss a ton of time. Always. It could just be a run of bad luck. Like Matthew Stafford had early to start his career. You know, you never really know there. It's just unfortunate how it's come. Another player who I think has had the shoulder surgery was Matt Barkley back in college. Now, Matt Barkley doesn't seem like the greatest example because he was never really a good NFL player, but he kind of was the same player before and after. So, you know, that's all I can really say there.

Starting point is 00:13:51 Kind of the same player before and after, after having the surgery on his shoulder. I do know that there are a lot of really good football or just quarterback experts out there. Adam Dato and Tom House, obviously at 3DQB, have worked with quarterbacks who are coming off of shoulder injuries or major throwing arm injuries, help them rework their mechanics to have just more flow there and just better feel and better movement in their arms. And these players have come back stronger. I mean, Tom House and Adam Dato made their careers off of fixing the shoulders or helping the shoulder recoveries of Tom Brady and Drew Brees and making their throwing motions actually much better coming back from the shoulder injury. So again, just because he's having shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder doesn't mean, oh no, he's never going to have the same velocity or, oh no, it's going to be like a

Starting point is 00:14:39 weaker arm or he's just not going to look the same. It's like, sure, he might not look exactly the same, but we have seen quarterbacks come back from this and look stronger and better and even been healthier like Matthew Stafford after his shoulder injury. So I don't want you guys to be too scared and too upset about this injury or this surgery, because again, it doesn't mean that he's absolutely cooked for the rest of his career.

Starting point is 00:15:01 What this does mean for the Indianapolis Colts though, is you're going to be going into next season with your super young franchise quarterback who played his first rookie season, basically only two and a half games, you know, two games and three quarters. Where does that leave you with that rookie quarterback? Obviously, you're not giving up on him yet because the flashes were so good and you still believe what he can do with Shane Steichen. But, you know, you have to be more wary of what's going on in that situation and how do you adjust from that. So it'll be really interesting to see what the Colts do there.

Starting point is 00:15:30 What it means for the rest of this season, well, it's going to be the Gardner-Minchu show until it's not. We'll see if he ends up being the starter the whole year. Obviously, he had a really tough game this past weekend against the Jacksonville Jaguars, but he can clearly bounce back from that. And I know he has two tough matchups coming up, but he can clearly bounce back from that and I know he has two tough matchups coming up but he can clearly bounce back from that he's a veteran quarterback who knows what he's doing uh but yeah it's gonna be the Gardner Minshew show

Starting point is 00:15:51 hopefully it's better than what we saw last year with Indianapolis Colts and the Matt Ryan show but um yeah yeah it does it does kind of just mellow the mood for the rest of the season because look Gardner Minshew's fun cool guy I enjoy for him, but it was different when Richardson was out there. You felt like you're watching a potential franchise quarterback every time he took a snap. And unfortunately, every time he took a snap, you're also holding your breath, not knowing if he was going to take another injury. So it was just, it's a struggle rookie season for him. It's struggle rookie season for us to watch, but hopefully next year you can come back healthy, stay healthy, complete a whole season, and really grow from there. But coming up, guys, we're going to continue this talk about the Colts rookie class.

Starting point is 00:16:31 We're going to transition into like an overall review of that rookie class and how, hey, look, the early returns on the 2023 class are actually looking pretty solid. Do you guys ever feel like your brain is getting in its own way? Like you've been desperately trying to get sleep at night, but your brain just won't shut off? Well, therapy helps you figure out what's holding you back so you can work for yourself instead of against yourself. As someone who has struggled with insomnia for a lot of my life, I have tried therapy multiple times and it really has helped me. You know, it helps me get out of my own head. It helps me get into a better line of thinking and just understand that, hey, nighttime is for sleeping.

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Starting point is 00:18:05 So I wanted to bring it out to bring it back to being a little bit positive here towards the end of the show and talk about this Colts 2023 rookie class because I was watching some film the other day and I kept thinking like, man, there are so many good rookies that keep showing out for this Colts team. So I want to go over a couple of them right now. Anthony Richardson, obviously, we'll talk about him briefly. He's flashed a lot in the couple games that he did play has to stay healthy needs to stay healthy obviously we can't say that enough on this show Anthony Richardson's health is the most important thing going forward but for him to be as developed as he looked as a passer for him to be making full

Starting point is 00:18:39 field reads that he's making for him to having the velocity and the accuracy that I just I mean, I expected the velocity, but I didn't expect the accuracy for him to be popping like it did in those first couple games that he played. Obviously, the speed as a runner when he got out in space, the pocket presence, the ability to move around in the backfield and create plays down the field. I think everything that we saw in those two and a half games is this is a quarterback who can be a franchise quarterback like he has the potential he has the ability and he's coming along really nicely it's just has to stay healthy has to stay healthy that's the most important thing and then the development can go from there but I think the early returns on Anthony Richardson are good

Starting point is 00:19:20 I think going into next year there's no thought of hey we need to replace him maybe you need to get a more high-end backup or invest a little bit more into a backup, but I don't think that there's much concern about what he did on the field for the Colts. I think everything he did on the field, you're feeling pretty optimistic about going forward. So even if the Colts get like a top 10 pick, I don't think you're looking at quarterback, obviously because Richardson showed enough. Now, if he was just absolutely horrendous in those games and the Colts ended up with a top five pick, maybe you look at quarterback just because that's the nature of the game. But because he looked as solid as he did, I don't really think there's any reason to even consider moving on from him.

Starting point is 00:19:57 I think, again, the whole thing is just health. It's all about health. It's about putting players around him to make it so he doesn't have to do as much on his own. And again, about him getting healthy and bouncing back from this injury. So I think the early return on that first pick is pretty solid despite the lack of games played. Maybe if we just view it as, you know, he played a couple games and he sat for the whole year instead of even getting an injury, then we feel even more optimistic about it there. Going to the next pick though, Juju Brent's corner out of Kansas State. Didn't miss the first couple games as a healthy scratch because he missed a lot of the offseason

Starting point is 00:20:28 work due to injury. So the Colts are kind of bringing him along slowly. And man, he has looked outstanding these last couple weeks. I'm actually going to write something about him for Horseshoe Huddle about just how well he's played the last two weeks. But I am blown away by his development. I know I said that about Anthony Richardson where it's like, oh, I didn't expect the accuracy. I didn't expect him to be at the level he's playing at, but for Juju Brents, I think everything's looking so smooth and comfortable and he's looking so good at the line of scrimmage. He's been physical. He's been confident. He's been really riding these receivers. I mean, DeAndre Hopkins and Calvin, really, I can only count a couple of catches that

Starting point is 00:21:05 he allowed to each of those players. And those are two really good wide receivers. And even in doing so, he only had one penalty in the last two games and illegal contact against DeAndre Hopkins, which was a little bit ticky tack. But overall, through four games played this year, again, just through four games, only three starts. He has 24 tackles, three pass breakups, an interception and a forced fumble. So basically, he's getting a turnover every two, three pass breakups, an interception, and a forced fumble. So basically

Starting point is 00:21:25 he's getting a turnover once every two games, and he's getting a pass breakup nearly every single game he's playing. Just playing at a really high level right now. I didn't expect him to be the guy who was going to be trusted in those isolated situations, but the Colts are putting him backside against Hopkins, against Calvin Ridley, against top receivers for other teams are putting them on that backside on an island and saying, Hey, when at the line of scrimmage and when this route, and for the most part,

Starting point is 00:21:52 he's doing it like, again, there are some plays here and there where he could be a little bit better, but he's doing it. He's playing extremely well right there on that backside. And I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but it reminds me a lot of when I was watching some, some like Richard Sherman type early career stuff and watching how he looked in practice and how he looked in his press technique. It looks very similar, which is how strategic he is in his steps, how physically is throughout the route and how he's using that length to his advantage.

Starting point is 00:22:18 It looks a lot like a Richard Sherman type early in Sherman's career, just how he was winning as a corner. So I'm really high on Juju Brents. I think this last game against the Jacksonville Jaguars was simply fantastic. I can't think of many issues I had with his game whatsoever this past week outside of him getting a little banged up in the, in the third quarter, but Juju Brents, the stock is flying up for him right now. I'm feeling really good about his development. And I think the sky, I honestly,

Starting point is 00:22:48 I think his ceiling is higher than what I expected going into the year because the way he's moving out there, how explosive he's looking and how he's winning at the line of scrimmage, you know, the long speed issue, I'm not as concerned about right now because he's winning so comfortably at the line of scrimmage. So I want to see if he continues this going forward, especially as receivers get more film on him.

Starting point is 00:23:05 But Juju Brents is playing some really good football right now. And then obviously Josh Downs, a third-round pick, slot receiver out of North Carolina. You guys all know he has been a really, really big contributor for the Colts. Last two weeks, well over 100 yards combined. His first touchdown nearly had a 100-yard game against the Tennessee Titans. Just some really, really good football from Josh Downs. He emerged early in the year as more of their underneath guy,

Starting point is 00:23:30 a quick win wide receiver who we're going to isolate him in situations, let him beat his defender one-on-one, and get those quick, easy separation targets underneath. But we've seen his role kind of expand a little bit the last couple weeks. He's getting a little bit more downfield shots, obviously against the Rams. He had that seam shot that Richardson hit him on down the field. He had that other one against Tennessee Titans, that deep corner route against cover two, where he found that hole in the zone and had a big game down sideline.

Starting point is 00:23:57 He's had a lot more run after catch opportunities in recent weeks, had a drag route that he took for 20 plus yards against Tennessee Titans as well. And then his first touchdown, obviously you go back to that quick win separation, that touchdown this past weekend, Jacksonville Jaguars, they just isolated him on the backside and said, Hey, run your option route, read the leverage of the defender and get open. And he did and got his first touchdown. So Josh Downs, the early returns on him are extremely high right now. He might never be like a top 10 receiver in the NFL, top 20 wide receiver in the NFL, but he's going to be a consistent player who gets a ton of catches,

Starting point is 00:24:29 who gets a lot of run after catch, and in the red zone can use that separation to score touchdowns. So Josh Downs, really, really good return so far on pace for a really strong rookie season and looks to be one of the best picks of the chris ballard era honestly it looks but looks like the what one of the best value picks he's had at receiver like ever for him and he usually misses on wide receivers so getting downs in round three uh and and seeing what he's doing already i think is a really good return early on now when we go to day three again when it comes to day three a lot of these are shots in the dark and you're taking shot on upside, taking shots on special teamers, you're taking shots on guys that might be good down the line for you. So it's hard to really hit on day three picks, but Blake Freeland's played a little bit this season, the tackle out of BYU.

Starting point is 00:25:18 The returns haven't been amazing, but hey, to even have a rotational tackle that's playing at least close to adequate football is a positive development there will Mallory has flashed in the couple snaps he's had this year the big 43 yard catch back at week two I know a lot of other guys on day three have been injured but again when you're getting production like they're getting right now from Juju Brents from Josh Downs and when Richardson was healthy what they were getting out of Richardson that's looking like a really strong draft class right there for the Indianapolis Colts. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself right now, but Juju Brents and Josh Downs look like key contributors going forward for this Colts team. They look like two players who are going to be around for a while

Starting point is 00:25:57 and play some good football for the Colts going forward. So I'm really high on this 2023 draft class. Obviously, it all comes down to Anthony Richardson getting healthy and staying healthy, but I'm really high on this Colts draft class. And I think that they can do some good things with this group of players. Again, as long as they stay healthy, but Juju Burns, Josh Downs are playing some great football. Richardson has flashed and then Freeland and Will Mallory had done some things too in their limited times. I think that's all we have for today, guys.

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