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Starting point is 00:00:37 team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can get $200 in bonus bets if your first $5 bet wins. Hello everyone, everyone. My name is Zach Hicks, your resident film nerd and draft nerd over at HorseshoeHuddle.com. And my partner, Jake Arthur, is our credentialed boots on the ground. He's been making the run of all these pro day circuits the last couple of days. Now that Jake is back in town though, we're excited to keep talking about this upcoming NFL draft and today we're gonna focus on some hot takes We've got to get the clicks. You know you guys love our clicks We love to get the clicks on the episodes here, so let's get a little crazy with it Jake

Starting point is 00:01:16 Let's go some hot takes for what the Colts could do in the in the dresser Jake's gonna have his own segment To dish out a couple of his hot takes I'm gonna have my own segment where I try to one up Jake as best I can. And then we're going to close it off with some this or that where Jake throws some either or questions at me. And I try to try my best to decipher them right there. So, Jake, let's kick it off with you with the hot takes here, because again, you're you I think you typically go a little bit more tame than me because I'm the crazy one here.

Starting point is 00:01:47 You have to be the reserved one on this episode on all episodes. So Jay kick us off with some of your hot takes that I probably tack on even crazier takes on top of. Well, I think the culture and kind of a spot this year where it's really best player available everywhere. There's not many positions where they're loaded. Like you can't rule out many things like probably not going to take like receiver running back super high, but I'm going to say that they're going to double dip at two different position groups this year.

Starting point is 00:02:17 They're going to go online. They're going to get at least two guys and they're going to get at least two defensive linemen. So more than half of their draft class is going to be spent in the trenches. So we know they want competition there. And to neglect these groups would go against everything Chris Ballard stands for. I also think looking at the Super Bowl,

Starting point is 00:02:39 all teams should be trying to be as reinforced as possible in both areas. So just by going off of the Colts desire to build more competition and depth and accountability everywhere. Right now, after you've lost Ryan Kelly and Wolfries, you're shooing in to first time full time starters under their spots. And Tanner Bordellini at center and Mackensalva as a right guard. So those guys haven't necessarily earned it yet in the NFL,

Starting point is 00:03:08 at least not to the point where you don't push them for competition. Like I think you and I are both fine if they are the starters, but they can't just be handed that like Danny Pinter was, you know, a few years back for a good example. So I think the Colts are gonna do their darnedest to be as reinforced on the offensive line as possible. Defensive line, they really need it just as bad. So Diode Dango out the door to the Bears.

Starting point is 00:03:34 And then you look around. So on the interior, obviously DeForest Buckner and Grover Stewart, they're both gonna be in their year 31 season this year. You have Neville Gallimore and Adetomi Adabuare as your backups. So Adetomi, nice potential player, but has done nothing to not be, you know, usurped in the lineup to this point. And Neville Gallimore has just been a guy, you know, throughout his career. Like he's fine. I think he'll give the Colts a little something, but again, hasn't done anything not to be replaced to this point in his career. So it

Starting point is 00:04:10 makes all the sense in the world to like give these older guys a breather a bit, but to also not have this albatross in production when they do come off the field like we've seen in recent years. And then you look at the edges, why out tou, you got all the hope in the world that he's going to be something. But then what else do you have? Quidipay, Tyquan Lewis and Sampson, EBCOM are all entering the final years of their contracts. And then EBCOM is 30 and coming off in Achilles. So the only young guys who you have any hope in right now are a lot too. And if Isaiah land can take any sort of step, but he's not, I mean, let's be real. He's not supposed to factor in to be a significant part of this rotation really. So you got a lot of question marks and I think it makes all the sense in the world to do it.

Starting point is 00:05:00 But, you know, people are going to say, what about safety? What about lying backer tight end? Obviously running back needs something like there's a lot of other spots people want to fill, which they should. The Colts need to do that. But I see the Colts going super heavy on the trenches in the draft. Yeah, I mean, look, it's Chris Ballard. He spends a lot of draft picks on the trenches, even if he does miss

Starting point is 00:05:21 on a lot of the defensive side of the ball once he does spend a lot of draft picks, a lot of high draft picks to on the trenches even if he does miss on a lot of the defensive side of the ball ones he does spend a lot of draft picks a lot of high draft picks too on the trenches that's what he's always done throughout his career so four wouldn't shock me that he would come away with four can I get you up to five Jake can I get you up to five okay I can do that just to add on what you're saying cuz I know you have another hot take you want to get to so I won't go too long here but on the O line they have me they have six rosterable players on the O line. You're counting Danny Pinter is the backup center maybe Freeland and and French work into that as Number seven and eight, but I don't think those guys are technically considered rosterable guys right now

Starting point is 00:06:00 So if you're looking at the offensive line, you have six guys that you feel good about going into next year They want to be at like 10 with that number Yeah So if there's like two to three picks on the offensive line It wouldn't shock me because they do just need bodies in there and Chris bow would even set the combine That he really likes this offensive line classes depth in like the rounds three to five range. So If rounds three through five are all offensive linemen, it wouldn't shock me because they just need more depth across the entire offensive

Starting point is 00:06:31 line. Yeah. And I mean, they're going into it with seven picks, but unless they trade up early, I think we know they're going to wind up with probably eight or nine picks. So pushing that number to five, absolutely. Because a guy I didn't even mention, Braden Smith, is coming back on the one year, pretty much a prove it deal, because he spent so much time injured and then dealing with his personal issues last year. So there's all the reasons in the world to invest heavily on both sides of the ball in the trenches.

Starting point is 00:06:57 My next one I got for you, the Colts are gonna draft a quarterback on day three. I'm close to guaranteeing that one. They're doing a lot of work on some of these guys. So Quinn, yours, it started out with a formal meeting at the combine like, okay, sure doing your due diligence, but they're also going to host him for a 30 visit. So that's a lot of digging to be doing into one guy. If you're not planning on taking a quarterback and then they're

Starting point is 00:07:23 going to ask him about how he was throwing so many ducks to AD Mitchell in college. I've seen a lot of jokes about they're just trying to gather more Intel on archmantic next year, which you know, hey, why not? But I was at the Notre Dame pro day on Thursday and Shane Steichen was there and you know, he pulled he pulled Riley Leonard over the side for a little one on one chat. And he was asking about how how can you go through a whole year with barely completing any passes? That's what he was really going to ask.

Starting point is 00:07:52 But is Riley Leonard not like such a good chainstike in style day three quarterback? For a day three, three quarterback three, I mean, round seven or priority free agent like Jason Bean. Sure. You know, sure, you know like You know, those aren't those aren't just the only guys either. I think some other day three guys who would fit the Colts So let's see Dylan Gabriel. I think the Colts could do a little something with that I don't think the league's super high on him cam Miller from North Dakota State And then the last one I'll throw out there. was he the kid from brady cook from missouri so i think all those guys stylistically have some attributes that shane stein can could really work with uh i like that

Starting point is 00:08:37 one but i'm i feel almost certain they want to try and grab a quarterback and within the last few rounds yeah so i'm fine with your hot take and actually agree with your hot take. I do think they're going to look at a quarterback on day three. My hot take I'm going to build on top of that is taking a quarterback on day three in this class is stupid, is stupid. I'm not going to mince my words on this. Even taking one on day two for this team. Look, everyone in the building right now from Richardson to Stiken to Ballard have to be all in on this season. You know, they have to make the playoffs this team. Look, everyone in the building right now, from Richardson to Stiken to Ballard

Starting point is 00:09:05 have to be all in on this season. You know, they have to make the playoffs this year and they might or they might be gone. You know, we don't know what the future holds with these guys, but they're closer to being fired than they are to being safe as of right now. You know, wasting a pick on a day three quarterback that in all likelihood is not going to touch the field this next season. And look, in all likelihood, day three quarterback that in all likelihood is not going to touch the field this next season and And look in all likelihood day three quarterbacks don't even amount to making of the roster You're replacing Sam Ellinger is what you're doing, right? You're replaced so like going out of your way to do all this work on your Sam Ellinger replacement And that's all this guy's likely going to be is another Sam Ellinger at best

Starting point is 00:09:41 like Sam Ellinger is like the high end of a player that you take on day three when it comes to a quarterback is being a guy who can start like three games in his career and not be the worst thing that's ever touched the field. You know, you typically get much worse quarterbacks in that. I think getting a special teamer or getting, you know, like a guy like Jalen Carlisle, they got in round five last year. Tanner Bordellini, they got around four last year. Like throw it at a position player that might become something because the quarterback you take on day three,

Starting point is 00:10:10 the Riley Leonard's are not like, like, look, if you want to practice squad quarterback, fine, but don't, I wouldn't waste a pick on it. Just go get like the Canadian kid that was at the senior bowl in undrafted free agency. Hey, where's Al Grissma? Yeah, have him compete with Jason Bean to see who gets to maybe get the veteran, you know, the retirement bonuses or whatever at the end of their career because they played in four

Starting point is 00:10:33 games like let's just go for that for those guys. But a day three quarterback look, I know they're fun in college. We all felt like the Riley Leonard's had a good college career for the most part, not a great past season, but he's not going to be an NFL starter at any point in his career. Like roll with your two guys that you invested in and don't don't waste a pick on a quarterback. Like if it all fails this year, get your quarterback next year when there's a new staff and a new GM and you have a top 10 pick, you know, if it all fails this year, you know. Yeah, I agree.

Starting point is 00:11:03 I wouldn't do it personally. I do think it's it's a waste of a potential impact player. Cause again, your competitions between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. It's not between those two and Jason Bean and player X from day three of the draft so I agree but I think it still might happen so coming up guys.

Starting point is 00:11:20 I agree. I agree. I agree. Good for sure. Is that here in a moment is going to fire off his hot takes. March madness is here. March sadness for some of you, whether you're betting and it's not going well or your team is not in it. But anyways, Fandle is giving you guys a chance to get in on the action like never before. Right now, new customers can get $200 in bonus bets when your first

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Starting point is 00:12:26 I try to keep myself tethered to reality, but not you, my friend. I would like to hear what hot takes you've got for us today. Yes, thank you for that. That kind opening there, Jake. All right. My first one, I'm going to start off with is one that's more of a hot take to Colts fans, because I think anyone who like works within the league or stuff like that would agree with what I'm about to say but Colts fans never like

Starting point is 00:12:48 saying this when it comes to round one and that is in this draft the true dream scenario in round one is not taking Tyler Warren it's not taking Jahad Campbell it's not taking anybody at pick 14. It's moving back. It's trading back in this draft. And I'm not going to say that this applies to every single draft, but in this draft in particular, I just don't see it, man. Like, don't get me wrong. If the Colts take Tyler Warren at 14, I'm not going to sit here complaining. They're getting a good player at 14, a good solid football player. If they take Jahad Campbell at 14, that's one of my very few blue chippers in this draft. But when we're looking at that pick at 14, especially when

Starting point is 00:13:31 it comes to like typical first round picks, especially typical like first 15 picks, taking an off ball linebacker when typically those positions are easier to find on day two and day three and same with tight end again, much easier to take on day two and day three and same with tight end again much easier to take on day two and day three I Do think that like we're looking at a very weak draft here Especially at the very top like you have your Abdul Carter you have your Travis Hunter But after that you don't really have blue chip players at premium positions You have to go and get a solid tight end prospect like Tyler Warren Who's not even what Brock Bowers was last year you have to go and get Jah solid tight end prospect like Tyler Warren who's not even what Brock Bowers was last year. You have to go and get Jahad Campbell who is awesome

Starting point is 00:14:08 but he's an off-ball linebacker and most of the best off-ball linebacker picks come on day two instead of day one. So you are taking a big risk either way. When you get a draft like this for me I would prefer to just stockpile as many shots as possible in the top 100. So if they can move all 14, even move down quite a bit for 14, and pick up more picks in that 30 to 100 range, I think that's way more valuable than taking a guy at 14. Because for me, when I look at this draft class in particular, I don't think there's much of a difference between the pick at number 10 and the pick at number 50.

Starting point is 00:14:48 And I know that's a steep fall, but for me, I just don't see the talent in this class, especially at premium positions. Like again, tight end and linebacker. I love Jahad Campbell to death. He's one of my favorite players in the draft. I really like Tyler Warren. I think he's a really good player. But for me, the difference between Tyler Warren and Mason Taylor is not so vast that I wouldn't

Starting point is 00:15:10 want some extra day two picks, you know, like so I personally, I think the dream scenario should be moving back in round one for Colts fans. But I know that's going to get me slaughtered by the fans here because nobody ever wants to trade back. They always want to move up for that premium talent. But for me in this draft, there really isn't that premium talent at the top of the board. There's no Malik neighbors in this draft. There's no Brock Bowers in this draft. There's no Roma Dunze in this draft.

Starting point is 00:15:38 It's a lot of just fine at the top of the board outside of Abdul Carter and outside of Travis Hunter. So I would prefer to just move back and I want that. I'd rather the Colts have five picks within pick 25 to 100 than have three picks in between pick 14 and 100. If that makes sense. I agree with that, like unless again, if Tyler Warner, Jehad Campbell were there at 14 and they moved back, I would not love that. But like you said, let's say you move all the way back, like half the round to about 30 or something. You got Mason Taylor and you pick up a couple extra day two picks and you stop pilot with Carson, Sweshenger, Donovan Jackson or something you like fill up with a bunch of guys who like are going to be, you know, on the first round board for other teams.

Starting point is 00:16:29 Like I've like you said, I've been hearing that there is a big drop off after like the top 10 in the difference between players and where their grades are. Jim Nagy said that at the senior bowl and it hasn't changed. Like we're not trying to manufacture blue chip players. There are just only are a few like even the quarterback class. There's very QB needy teams up at the top and they're still willing to move back. That's that tells you all you need to know. So I agree that this is definitely a draft to move back if what you love isn't there at 14,

Starting point is 00:17:05 because like I would love to stick and pick if there's a couple of the right players there. I mean, you could have a situation like last year where someone who is like a top considered a top 10 lock, most of the draft is there like Will Campbell or of course, I can't think of the DT from Michigan right now, Mason Graham. But like there are possibilities. But overall, like I think there's a ton of value and just sliding back and gathering more top 100 picks, like you mentioned. Yeah, I will say this regarding this year's draft, like the reason why this is my hot take for this year is.

Starting point is 00:17:39 Like outside of Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, I don't think there is that guy I prefer to have over the trade back. Even a Will Campbell or a Membo who I think are awesome players. Do I think they're that much better than the next best guy at their position group? Like this isn't like last year again, where the neighbors, the Bowers, the, I mean, all those edge rushers like Quinian Mitchell who went in the 20 range. Like to me, Quinian Mitchell would be a top eight pick in this draft just off his prospect profile. Not even what he did as a rookie, just because he was that much better than every corner

Starting point is 00:18:09 in this draft on paper. So for me, it's really just based on this draft alone. Like in a normal draft, sure, I would like to stay at 14, get the blue chip guy who slips to you like like last year, what happened with the Colts? They viewed lot two as a blue chipper He fell to them at 15 they stuck in and took that pick this year I just don't think there's that many blue chip I think there's two in this draft and I don't think either of those guys are gonna come close to the Colts So that hot take is purely based off of this draft. It's not off of everything I got a little long-winded on that one So I do want to sneak in this last one under the buzzer here, but my other one is

Starting point is 00:18:45 If the Colts miss out on taking a linebacker within the top 100 picks That's fine. That's fine. And I know linebacker is viewed as the second biggest need on the team right now and I completely understand that because obviously tight end is the number one need but for me when it comes to this linebacker class, I like, I hate to say this, but for me it's like, there's like two guys. It's Jahad Campbell and Carson Schwesinger. Jaylen Walker as well,

Starting point is 00:19:13 but that depends if you see him as more of an edge or. Yeah, he's like a Frankie Louvoo for me, like off ball and edge, more of an edge. But outside of that, I don't really want to take anyone else in the top 100 in this draft. I've tried to talk myself into multiple other linebackers within that top 100 range, but I'd rather just take better players. There are the Colts don't force it

Starting point is 00:19:38 at linebacker like tight end. They're in a situation where they have to force tight end. Like they absolutely have to force a tight end pick and it stinks. You never want to be in a position that you have to force a position pick. But linebacker, look, I'm not saying this linebacker group is perfect right now in the Colts, but Zaire Franklin, Jalen Carlis, Shegu Aloubi, like that trio is better than anything they have a tight end right now. So for me, if they miss out on a linebacker within the top 100 and they get another one on day three and maybe grab a vet that knows what they're doing

Starting point is 00:20:10 on the market, I can live with that rather than panicking in round three and taking, you know, Barrett Carter from Clemson, for instance, who I just don't think should be at round three pick. So not as crazy a hot take with that one, especially for Colts fans there, but for me, linebacker is a need. It's the second biggest need. I think they do need to target it. But for me, like if you miss Alan Schwesinger or Jahad Campbell, I wouldn't really force it on day two. Like just let the board fall at that point,

Starting point is 00:20:39 grab a talented guy on day three and just go from there. Yeah. And I think there are some possibilities for day three. Like you look at if, if Jeffrey Bata, because of the versus the, the position flexibility becomes available there on day three, he's one, uh, Shamar James from Florida. We love Jack Kaiser. It looks like the Colts might have a little interest there as well. So like they have options on day three.

Starting point is 00:21:03 They're not necessarily going to be starters and they're going to fill a very specific role, but you're kind of looking to fill out special teams on day three anyways. So I don't hate that. I think that's realistic. That's a position I could see myself doing a mock and winding up not filling that role. Yeah, no, for sure. Like I want to line back or don't get me wrong, but it's just Yeah, no, for sure. Like I want a linebacker don't get me wrong, but it's just Unlike tight end. I don't think they're so pressed at that position where they need to take it That's my biggest thing with with linebacker that I really want to get out there to everybody Yeah, all right guys. So coming up. I'm gonna throw some either or some this or that's I'm gonna make Zach uncomfortable So I'm giving him some options. I know he doesn't like but we're gonna get to that

Starting point is 00:21:44 uncomfortable because I'm giving him some options I know he doesn't like, but we're going to get to that just a moment. All right, we'll start off kind of easy here, Zach. So would you rather trade up for Tyler Warren, let's say like 10 or 11, you got the bears or 49ers who I think could be willing to move a little bit or move back into say 2728 or later for Mason Taylor. If we're talking 27 or 28 for Mason Taylor, I would probably prefer to do that, especially it kind of goes with my hot take I had in the second segment there. If we're talking 2728 now this becomes a really, really difficult question. If you were pushing me to move back to like 19 intake Mason Taylor because that's way too high for Mason Taylor I really like Mason Taylor but you know I can talk myself into like 28 29 especially if you're getting you

Starting point is 00:22:37 know a next year first out of that trade back or it or I was gonna say you get you gain picks in that instance right like you're gaining so many picks if you're moving back that far that I'd be fine With the mason-taylor shot there in late round one But yeah, this would be an impossible question for me if it was moved back to 19 for mason-taylor move up to like Nine for Tyler Warren so if the trade back is far enough I would I would do the mason-taylor one, but if the trade-up is only to like 12 or 11, it's still

Starting point is 00:23:07 a tough one for me because I don't want to move up for a tight end in Tyler Warren who I don't view as a blue chip player. I think he's a good player. I don't think he's a blue chip player, but I would prefer that than taking Mason Taylor at like 19. But again, when it comes to tight end, the Colts are so pigeonholed on what they have to do that they almost have to reach on the tight end. I'm not saying Tyler Warren Would be a reach at 14. I'm just saying at some point they need to take one of these top tight ends It's like they're just so pigeonholed at it right now I know I sound like a broken record, but it's it's outrageous that their top tight end on the roster right now is Drew Oblertree

Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, and I don't have like a fervent feeling either way. All I know is they need to come away with a starting level tight end like. I as much as I like a guy like Terrence Ferguson and like I think there are good parts to like Harold Fanon like you can't settle for that. Yeah, or like even from Syracuse. Yeah, even Elijah Royo. I like even from Syracuse. Yeah. Even even Elijah

Starting point is 00:24:05 Arroyo. I like like there's things that concern me but like you can't get past that like Elijah Arroyo tear and not have gotten someone even then Elijah Arroyo might be a stretch if it's your only one you're taking you know because I like I think it is that I think there's the top three guys that you can feel good with after that It's like we probably need to go get a vet as well at this Yes I was gonna say I think if you get beyond that top three you need to look into double dipping in the draft or you

Starting point is 00:24:35 Need to go and get Michael Mayer or bring back Mo Ali Cox or something But like that can't be the only one you bring in because right again Like you said Drew O'Reilly, Terry Will Will Mallory, those are like your guys right now. Next up, and this really depends on how you view either side of the ball for the Colts. Would you rather invest five of their seven picks on offense or five of their seven picks on defense? Well, first, let's get me like 10 picks, baby. Let's not stick at this seven. No, we're saying we're saying they don't move anywhere. They stay with the seven Okay, okay

Starting point is 00:25:06 I actually went back and forth on this one beforehand because I think it's easier to invest more picks on defense Because the majority of those guys play special teams So you can keep in like throwing bottom of the roster guys on defense but honestly because they spent so much in free agency on defense and say those two non of the five picks for like the two picks that go to the defense are like a defensive tackle and a linebacker. I probably want to do the five on offense, like just fill out the offensive line, get another running back in here and then, oh, and it's high end as well, obviously. And then maybe get your quarterback

Starting point is 00:25:40 pick in there, Jake, you know, get, get some practice, you know, some camp arm in there to throw the ball around a little bit. Um I think I would go offense here just because they had such a defense heavy free agency that I think I would want to invest a little bit more the picks on offense, especially with the offensive line and tight end and honestly a backup running back being a pretty pretty pressing needs on this team right now. being a pretty pretty pressing needs on this team right now. Yeah, I although like I don't really care for them picking like a receiver anytime before like the fifth round, I think I would go offense just because I think the defense is closer to being addressed. Like with free agency and stuff like I think it would be easier to finish off that defense basically. I think the defense is better. Right. Yeah. On paper. And I know it's crazy to say after last year,

Starting point is 00:26:29 but I think the defense is better on paper in the offense. The offense like they need a starting tight end. They probably need a guy who could compete to start at guard. They need a future right. They need a lot. Yeah. Like, yeah, they need another running back. Like they do need a lot of offense and or defense. It's like if the defense were to go into the season right now with who they have, they'd be like a middle of the road group, I think, which is survive. Yeah, the offense. I don't know if they could be in the middle of the road group right now. So I'm also looking at this from the quarterback perspective. So you're having a quarterback battle, which means you don't love either of who you have you're hoping Anthony rises to the occasion

Starting point is 00:27:06 But like you're not confident in either of them Because you haven't outright gone and made one of them that you know what I'm saying, right? So There's so many things that you can use those picks to support them as much as possible Number one, they're not gonna stand a chance if they don't have an offensive line. And Daniel Jones has almost never had an offensive line. So you would have wasted that $14 million in signing if you're not even going to give the dude an offensive line. And that's if he wins, of course, um, running back, I think this has to be a super run centric offense this year. So you probably need to draft someone within like rounds three to five.

Starting point is 00:27:42 Um, and then tight end, obviously we've talked about and I don't know how much room there is on the receiver depth chart. I would say probably none, cause like Gould and Anthony Doolin are your bottom two and I would say they're relatively safe. So what are you gonna do there? But yeah, if you throw a bunch of resources

Starting point is 00:28:00 at just supporting the quarterback as much as possible, I think that would be really wise. Yeah. No, I agree. All right. So now we're going to get to ones we don't like cause I don't like this one. And I know you're not going to like it either. So the Colts are only going to pick between one of these two players. Is it only guys on their board at 14 you take a Nick Emman worry or Shemar Stewart, the super freaks. Oh, I guess Shemar Stewart or just just because the trench player like

Starting point is 00:28:28 it represents if he hits it's a good pass rusher. Yeah, it's just a trench player. I guess but I wouldn't I wouldn't take either this guys at 14 for the Colts, but we'll see. Well, that's why this is supposed to be uncomfortable because you don't like the option. Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. What's the next one?

Starting point is 00:28:43 We got to finish. We got to wrap this up option. Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. What's the next one? We got to finish up here. Let's do it. Okay. So would you rather take a wide receiver in round two or running back in round two? Running back with this team.

Starting point is 00:28:53 But I do want to take this moment to say that I love Jayden Higgins so much out of Iowa State. One of my favorite players, but. Or Tra Harris too. Yeah. But with who the Colts have on the team, like get me like a Travion Henderson and let's roll baby Yeah, I'm right there with you draft a quarterback in round three or wait until all the way to around five to get a tight end

Starting point is 00:29:14 so you're saying like Tyler Warren and Quinn yours or Yeah, basically defense and then like Thomas for your you. You're getting like basically Shuck, Milro or you or is there in round three or you're waiting until round five to address tight end. You're playing the bullet. I don't know. Yeah, I was saying I might. I might just wait until I'll just wait on tight end. You know what? I'll trade for I I'll trade for for for mayor instead, you know, and I'll just wait on tight end.

Starting point is 00:29:48 At least my defense will be good in the second scenario. In the first one, I'm wasting a top 100 pick on those. Those quarterback names you just listed off. Maybe shivered my spine like I don't want any of them. And we've had a lot of buildup to this final one, I think this flip-flops back and forth all the time at 14. Are you taking Jihad Campbell or Tyler Warren? All right, if this were me if this were me making this pick Jihad Campbell is a blue chip player on my board and he's at a position at the Colts need I would take Jihad Campbell I think he is just the final piece for this defense.

Starting point is 00:30:27 It'll be the best defense that Lou Anna Rimo had ever had on paper in the NFL. I know they don't have Trey Hendrickson, which would be nice, but I think if you throw Jihad Campbell in here, you get just an all around star future star linebacker and Jihad Campbell. Put him in there with Ward and Bynum and De force buckner and grover Stewart zire Franklin like I think That's a good defense. I think you could have a fringe top 10 defense in year one Tyler Warren is a good player man. He's a good player, and he finishes off kind of what you need on the offense, but For me, I think jihad Campbell's just a better player

Starting point is 00:31:00 So I would go with jihad Campbell But it is close because the need a tight end is so massive if you guys haven't heard me say that on this episode yet but the hot Campbell's just so good to me like in this draft where the talent at the top is not there for me to hot Campbell's a top eight player in the strap. but I cannot watch a non-functional offense anymore. Give me Tyler, give me Tyler Warren. Then you've got Warren and Josh Downs that can both help move the ball forward and create some sort of rhythm on that side of the ball. And again, if either of these quarterbacks are gonna succeed, you have to give them a little more.

Starting point is 00:31:39 So as much as I love Jahad Campbell as well, and I picture an incredible defense, a year or two down the road with him. I think Tyler Warren is the more dire fit at the moment. Yeah, no, I don't fault anyone for thinking that way because the offense needs that type of tight end so bad. Like, so even if Tyler Warren's just a good starting tight end in the NFL, that's so good for this offense.

Starting point is 00:32:02 It's way better than what you had. It's almost worth the 14 pick 14th overall pick alone, so I cannot fault anyone for making that selection. Even though I'm a Jahad Campbell massive fan here, but that's all we have for today.

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