Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts' Kwity Paye, Dayo Odeyingbo Poised for Big Things, Their Trainer Says

Episode Date: July 8, 2022

Indianapolis Colts defensive linemen Kwity Paye and Dayo Odeyingbo are all set for big things in 2022 says their pass-rush trainer, Eddy McGilvra. "Coach Eddy" sits down with Locked On Colts to discus...s his work with both players as well as what he expects from them this season.Jake and Zach discuss the rookie seasons of both Paye and Odeyingbo, what they did well, what they can work on, and what might be coming in 2022.Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ🎧 Apple https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1151621306🎧 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6meP450baAtjX4rTENZ5ij🎧 Audacy https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts-daily-podcast-on-the-indianapolis-colts-21701🎧 Google https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vUFBZODk1ODUyODkyNQ🎧 Megaphone https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/lockedoncoltsFollow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, and @LockedOnColts!Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DaveDownload the Dave app from the App store right now for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to dave.com/legal. Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Colts invested early draft capital on edge defenders Quidipe and Dayo Odengbo last year. Today we'll talk to someone who has trained both stud players to see what we should expect in year two. This and much more on today's edition of Locked on Colts. Let's get to it. You are Locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Colts fans, thank you so much for tuning in and making us your number one listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. This is Jake Arthur, joined as always by my partner, Zach Hicks, over there.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Today, Zach sat down with defensive line trainer Eddie McGilbra, who has personally worked with Colts second-year defenders Quidipe and Dayo Adangbo, Hurricane Dayo. Coach Eddie is going to share with us his thoughts, and then Zach and I will give you our own expectations for the pair in 2022. So I'm going to drop off this one. Zach handled this interview. We fired Jake in one segment. One segment we fired Jake.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah, you'll notice me being very quiet because i was not there let's get to it all righty golds fans as you can see we kicked jake off the show here and i replaced him uh with eddie mcgilver one of the best E-line coaches in the country. And Eddie is a guy who, you know, I talked to him a lot last year about Quiddy Pay. And since then, I mean, you've gotten pretty big with the coaching that you're doing in the offseason stuff, man. I mean, how's all this been for you and who are some of your like, you know, top guys that you've trained just to give you some background before we start talking? Yeah, no, it's been really fun this off season. I've been busier than normal, but
Starting point is 00:02:08 it's taken me some fun places in Dallas right now with a group of a bunch of veterans from a bunch of different teams, obviously a lot of cowboy guys because they're all local. But, you know, Dio is out here right now. He was just with me in L.A. for about a week before coming out here. You know, just was with Qu.A. for about a week before coming out here. You know, just was with Quitty all spring for about two months, mixing in with some veterans out in Los Angeles from the Chargers and the Rams guys. So it's been fun, man. It's been a lot. It's been a good time. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the main reason why I brought you on here is because I talked to you so many times about Quitty Pay, Quitty Pay, Quitty Pay, Quitty Pay. But now you got to work with Dio and Dio is the guy that is kind of under the radar right now for a lot of Colts fans and Colts writers and stuff, because we didn't really get to see him last year
Starting point is 00:02:55 at all. But from what you got to see of him, you know, out in LA and just working with him, I mean, how did he look? He's extremely twitchy. It's like he's very sudden, you know, and being a guy that can rush from, you know, outside and inside. I think he's very versatile in that sense. And fresh legs coming off of an injury. A lot of the times, you know, that'll really show you, you know, how much you really want to be in this business. Not being able to play almost a full year, only getting the end there. A little bit of, I think he played like maybe a little bit towards the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. Yeah. But you know, he's, he's really excited. He's been mixing in with a lot of big time veterans just kind of picking in and choosing what he sees, chopping it up with them, taking a couple of things from everybody, but he's definitely the whole package, man. using what he sees, chopping it up with them, taking a couple things from everybody. But he's definitely the whole package, man. He's extremely strong at the point of attack, and he's a long body. He's got a lot of length, and you can see why the Colts, you know, took a shot on him early in the draft.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I've been impressed. I mean, the guys that he works with, like pretty much everybody in this group here in Dallas has been like, yo, a kid can go, you know? So it was impressive. I think the biggest thing that stood out to me was Sheldon Rankins, who's with the Jets now, but you know, he's, he's a, I think going into his seventh year as a vet right now. You know, we were at UCLA for a couple of days and, you know, I brought, I brought a dial out and Sheldon was like
Starting point is 00:04:26 he was like young fella like you know what you're doing like it's right there so I think Colts fans should be really excited for him to have a healthy year you know yeah no and that's that's the biggest thing I love that you said he's looking twitchy and he's looking quick and and obviously you know there's some videos and stuff that you've been posting uh on your social media and i think that that's one of the more interesting things for me because he kind of came into camp and last offseason like looking bigger than what he did on film in college i think he was like in the 280s last year um but is is he kind of like around like 270s now did he tell you kind of what his weight's at or how he's you know what his process is i think he said he was sitting like right around 275 280 okay you know he doesn't look he doesn't look it man he's
Starting point is 00:05:11 yeah well um i think it was i was just surprised how how twitchy he was for somebody so like you know so lanky yeah i know his arms are i think it was, it was like 37 inches or something like that. Yeah. Cause he's, he's, he's a long body. Yeah. Yeah. And, and so you got to work with Dio, you got to work with Quitty, you know, compared to kind of what you had with Quitty, you know, Quitty you've had this report for so long with him. When you got a guy like Dio, how much was it like trying to get to, okay, we're going to do some things that kind of play to your strengths,
Starting point is 00:05:45 play to what you want to do. Did you watch some film with Dio or kind of what was your whole process and stuff with him? So we have, we've been in actually, we've been in just social media conversations, you know, Instagram, ever since he was a senior in or at Vandy before he graduated. And, you know, I was always a fan of his game. You could see he jumps off the film, like, right away with his suddenness.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And we just held conversation and eventually knew that we were going to connect. And then when we did, it was like, I remember we saw each other walking up to the field. And, like, it was like that moment. It was like, finally. It was cool. It was a cool feeling. We already had a little bit of chemistry from that. But, you know, we haven't been able to get in the film room yet. I think that's something that, you know, eventually down the road further in his career as he as he develops and starts getting into a more of a routine in his off seasons.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You'll start to mix that in like my other veterans do. But, you know, that's a that's a tough tough thing for guys transitioning from rookie year to second year. It's usually your first actual taste of a true offseason as an NFL player. So you really try to figure out, you know, where I'm going to be in the spring or where I want to be in the summertime. Who do I want to work with? What do I want to work with? What do I want to get done? And I think once you find that routine and you're able to settle in a little bit, you're able to calm down and really focus on what you're trying to get better at. So I think that'll come year two to three for him
Starting point is 00:07:15 more so than this offseason. I think this offseason, he was just really trying to shake the dust off after not playing as much for a full year and being able to be ready to go once training camp starts. Yeah, yeah. And you and I talked a lot in the offseason about how, you know, the Colts have Yannick, they have Quidipe, they have DeForest Buckner. And we've been pretty excited just looking at that group of guys. But we always were like, you know, they need that one more guy, you know, one more guy on passing downs that can kind of come in and also be productive. I mean, from your work with Dio, do you think, you know, one more guy on passing downs that can kind of come in and also be productive. I mean, from your work with Dio, do you think, you know, he can be that one more guy?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, Dio is that guy, especially in the system that the Colts have transitioned to with the attacking front of, you know, like a couple wide nines, wide sevens, letting their defensive ends get vertical. And they need those three tech, you know, those four tech pass rushers. And I think having, you know, I, we, it was funny cause we were talking about slide protection and I don't know where offenses like to set their slide to. And I looked at him and I was like, you're not going to ever get a slide, bro. Like you have a buck on the other side. I was like, so you need to take advantage of that. I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:22 you should already know what's happening and set up your rushes from there. But yeah, to answer your question, man, he is that guy. You know, if all goes well and he can stay healthy, I would expect a pretty big year from him. Awesome. And then the last guy, obviously, we always got to come back to Quitty Talk whenever I'm talking with you. And I know I've always got you saying great things about him and all my articles and stuff. But just for the people listening, for the people watching here on YouTube, what are your expectations for Quidipe this season across from Yannick going into year two? I mean, he knows what's up.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He knows, like, it's time to go. He had left some opportunity on the table last year, missed a couple sacks. I think his numbers would have been sitting right around, like, six to eight. I don't know if he would have finished a couple sacks. I think his numbers would have been sitting right around like six to eight. He would have finished a couple more times, but I think he understands now it's time to go. He's really, really worked his ass off this offseason more than ever, and it's showing. It's showing he's in the best shape of his life. Football is an interesting game, though. A lot of it is luck. You know, so I'm expecting expecting pro bowl type year for quitty especially in the afc it's going to be a very high stacked um pass rush group as you can see
Starting point is 00:09:34 from all the you know all the changes happening around even in like the afc west alone and so it's going to be tough for him to get that but i I think he has that in him. So, you know, we've talked a lot about it. And even the other day I was like, man, I was like, you just keep locked in and keep doing what you're doing. It's going to pay off. Awesome. Awesome. Eddie, I appreciate you jumping on the show. And it's the first time I think we've talked face to face, you know, we've been texting and calling each other. Yeah. I know. It's actually good to see, uh, see a face to the voice, you know? Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. But keep doing what you're doing. Keep growing all this.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And, you know, I'm excited to see, obviously, the rest of the work you're doing this offseason, but next offseason with Dio again and with Quitty again and just more Colts guys getting with you. I think it's a great thing that you're kind of building that kind of pipeline with Colts players right now. And I think Colts fans are starting to see it, too, and they're flooding to your,
Starting point is 00:10:25 your Twitter stuff right there. You guys can follow Ed there on Twitter at D line coach, Ed. He posts a lot of videos of guys that he's working with and such. But yeah, you know, coming up guys here on the lockdown Colts podcast, Jake and I are going to dive into the games of Quitty pay and Dio
Starting point is 00:10:38 Dambo and talk about why these breakout seasons are probably going to happen. Obviously with, with everything that Eddie said there. Yeah, that was a great sit down with my buddy Eddie there. Go follow him on Twitter, at DLineCoachEd. He's just outstanding, and he's been working with Quitty and Dio for quite a bit. Before we get into our conversation about Quitty and Dio Dambo,
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Starting point is 00:12:33 As a pass rusher, he had four sacks, and then pro football focus credited him with 28 quarterback hurries and then six other quarterback hits. He was top five among rookies in pressures with 39, and he was top three among rookie edge defenders in pretty much everything. So, Zach, I mean, you're the big film guy, of course. In your study of Quiddy from his rookie year, what were some of his things he excelled in, and what were some of his kind of areas to clean up? Yeah, you know, I think Eddie said it best there at the end of the interview where
Starting point is 00:13:09 Quitty was, what, half a second, maybe just a couple finishing plays from having like an eight sack rookie season. I mean, he had a couple where he had guys in his grass or just missed a sack. You know, we could have been talking about a guy in his rookie year having eight, nine sacks if he were to finish some plays, which is always the thing with rookies. It's always down to how you finish and stuff like that. But I think for the scheme that he was in, that Matt Iberflu scheme, that's not really predicated on edge rushers getting sacks. It's kind of more about containing the quarterback in the pocket and getting them if they try to escape. I think Quidipe had an outstanding rookie season, especially in the later half of the year.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You know, early in the year, you could definitely see, you know, he was dealing with some injury. He wasn't 100%. He was still kind of getting adjusted to playing in the NFL. That second half of the year, though, he was playing really, really good football. And that's where you saw those pressures start coming up. You saw the hits coming up.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You saw him get a couple sacks. And I think another really big thing, and this isn't me trying to even bash on Matt Iberflues at all, because Matt Iberflues does a lot for these young pass rushers. I mean, a guy like Quiddie Paye was a good run defender in college, but he got even more experience as a run defender because of what Matt Iberflues asked of these defensive ends. So he's going to come into this scheme with Gus Bradley, where he's a really good run defender. He's got the experience as a run defender, but now he gets to be unleashed as a pass rusher. Now he gets to be put out in those wide nines and crash downhill against single blocks from offensive tackles. So I think year one was definitely a great building block for him.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I wouldn't go as far to say he was a really good player. He was a great player in year one, but it was a great building block for a guy to take the next step in year two. Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. Of course, the stats aren't eye-popping by any means, but he's definitely one of those players you have to look beyond the box score. When they drafted him, they knew he played hard, had a high motor, was a pretty decent run defender. Raw as a pass rusher, but with room to grow. And I think you pretty much saw all that as a rookie. I thought he played decently well as a run defender,
Starting point is 00:15:09 like you said, under Matt Eberflus' scheme. Lots of hustle. He was there to be right there on the back into some plays that not a lot of other guys were. My biggest memories from his rookie season were hustle plays, to be honest with you. Maybe a sack here or there. But like you and Coach Eddie said, he probably is just a fingernail away from racking up a few more sacks.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And I think you and I did say expectations for him last year, probably about six, seven sacks going into it. So finishing with four. I have to say, I think I said four to five. Well, then you nailed it. Yeah. Well, it's just when you look at his college film so much of him he was so held back by that scheme and then when you come to the colts where i'm not saying maddie reflux's scheme like 100 holds back defensive ends but
Starting point is 00:15:55 it's very different than what you're going to get from like a gus bradley where it's like gus bradley as a defensive end you get after it you know you are you're getting back there you are you're firing off on these passing plays and you're trying to get sacks. Where Matty Ruflusch, you know, you're trying to contain a lot. And that's kind of where you're going to be. You might be playing as like a five tech on passing downs even or as a seven tech and just kind of containing that outside shoulder. So he's always kind of been restricted a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So that's why I thought, you know, going into year one, expecting eight, nine, ten sacks was going to be a little outrageous because he just wasn't going to be in a scheme that was going to really do that for him. And also he came from a place in Michigan where he was mostly just a run defender. I mean, he had some great moments, but he really wasn't unleashed at Michigan either. No. And that's, that's, that's pretty much it. I mean, you talked about being in the new system with Gus Bradley and how expectations and role is going to be different. Now, of course, when, when Gus Bradley first came in, we were kind of thinking, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:56 maybe Quitty might be the, might be the, the Leo with any of Taekwon or Daewoo or someone maybe being the big end, then they go and trade for Yannick and Gawkway, who has been a Leo for Gus Bradley previously, even as recently as last year. And that kind of kicks Quitty over to the starting left end. Although Quitty has said, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:19 he expects there to be a lot more of both ends lining up, you know, wide nine, things like that. So you may not have that definition. It may just be two skilled pass rushers at edge. It's not necessarily going to be so defined. But with that being said, what are your expectations for him under Bradley in 2022? You know, I think you have to have higher expectations. You know, Eddie just said that he is expecting, you know, a Pro Bowl type season or a season
Starting point is 00:17:47 where it could be a Pro Bowl type of production where, yes, it's going to be tough to be a Pro Bowler. I don't even need him to get that high this year. You know, I just need consistent pressure. That's all I'm asking. I'm asking for a very healthy, you know, pass rush, win rate, hurries, stuff like that. And just kind of, again, build on what we saw in rookie year. So rookie year, it was what four sacks, four QB hits. Uh, I think it was like 30, what'd you say again? 38 pressures, right?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Uh, 39 total pressures. 39 total pressures. Yeah. So just see those numbers all kind of come up a little bit, you know, again, I don't need, I don't need 15, 16 sacks or anything like that. But if you can get in there around eight, nine, 10 sacks and kind of be – like you don't even have to be the first or second most productive pass rusher on this defense this year because they have Yannick, because they have DeForest Buckner. Just be a consistent presence on that other side. We can't get into those situations last year where the Colts weren't just going
Starting point is 00:18:44 like one quarter or two quarters they were going games at a time where they were not touching quarterbacks I mean that's so frustrating yeah yeah and some of it was scheme some of it was underperformance of some players but at the end of the day the Colts were one of the worst teams in football in terms of pressure last year you want to see that number come up and you want Quiddipay to be a huge part of that so I mean expectations wise from everything I've seen and heard this offseason from the change to a very defensive and friendly scheme, I mean, I think you set it around six, seven, eight sacks and you kind of go from there in terms of the other metrics that you want to
Starting point is 00:19:18 see improve. Yeah, so I think that's fair. Honestly, just turning some of those pressures into a couple more finishes, you know, maintaining. Honestly, just turning some of those pressures into a couple more finishes, you know, maintaining consistent disruption and just turning some of those pressures into sacks would be good, you know, because finishing, I believe, was another knock on him. Yeah. But, you know, that's kind of the gist on Quiddy Pay. Up next, we're going to dive in on Pay's running mate and a guy with a lot of expectations this season in Dio Adango.
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Starting point is 00:20:45 I mean, last time he played in a scheme like this was with the Niners. So I'm interested in that one. And I think you're about to say Gilmore too. Gilmore is an interesting one too. Yeah. Gilmore's been there before at plus 10,000. He's one defensive player of the year before. So it's not super far-fetched.
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Starting point is 00:21:42 I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen the with with the first pick series and a lot of the behind the scenes stuff. But Ballard said he had to be talked out of taking him in round one if, if Cordy Paye wasn't going to be there, honestly. But yeah, Odenbo was on the NFI list through camp because of that Achilles injury. And he didn't debut until week eight of the regular season. By then, you know, he got action in 10 games. I think it was 173 snaps, just six tackles and one forced fumble. But as a pass rusher, he had a half sack, 10 hurries, and another quarterback hit.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That sack he had, of course, was the game-sealing sack against Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars. But yeah, Zach, kind of the same thing with Quidipe. What did you see on Dio's limited film from last year? Honestly, it's hard to even grade any of that because he wasn't Dio. If anyone who watched his college film and then you watched his rookie season, you could tell he wasn't Dio. He didn't have an off-season program. He didn't really get to go through all the motions with
Starting point is 00:22:47 with the colts before the season outside of just kind of being there uh and then when he got on the field you know he he just didn't look as explosive he didn't look as as strong or as overwhelming as what he did in college and and i think that was kind of to be expected again coming off that achilles injury it's a big injury uh for a defensive lineman and then you just kind of get thrown out there for a couple snaps every game it's really hard to get a rhythm going so I mean if you're if you're judging him at all whatsoever off of his rookie season I think that's that's kind of like malpractice honestly because it's just that's just not who he is uh the bigger test is going to be this year because this year is kind of like his rookie season yeah it last year was kind of just about seemed like getting his feet wet and just getting him
Starting point is 00:23:30 on the field and seeing what what he could do uh it was just like a complete introductory season you're almost not expecting anything other than give it effort and you know just do your role essentially um you can get into some of the extracurricular stuff you know, just do your role essentially. Um, you can get into some of the extracurricular stuff, you know, kind of thinking ahead of the game now that physically he should be fine. Um, I thought you saw the hustle, you saw a little violence. Um, you just kind of saw him doing his job, but the production wasn't there. Not a lot of explosion, things like that. And I mean, so asking you what he could clean up in 2022, it's hard to, it's really hard to say that too, because you don't know. I mean, you don't know what was the injury and what was what. But he did talk to the media this spring. He acknowledged, no, he definitely wasn't himself
Starting point is 00:24:21 last year. And, you know, even though the Achilles was kind of back, the rest of your body has to overcompensate for what was missing and things like that. And he mentioned, you know, he's made a ton of strides and he feels like himself now. He feels like he's going to be able to show who Dio Odengo is in 2022. And that's really exciting. As for his role, assuming he continues to progress, what would you think his role might be this year? I think it's going to be that fourth pass rusher on pass rushing downs.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I mean, as long as everything goes well in camp and he looks good. I mean, again, we have Eddie's videos that we're playing at the very beginning of this. He looks good that he's moving. And honestly, the best thing that Eddie said in the interview, which got me like kind of perking up, which you guys could probably see there in the video is when he told me Dio is around 275 280 you know right now that's great for him because I think last year at camp he was like high 280s I believe that's when he came in or 285 286 so to see him a little bit lower
Starting point is 00:25:19 there a little leaner looking very twitchy and then quick I think that's huge for for Dio and that's gonna be big for the role that he needs to have in this defense, because with this defense, Yannick Ngakwe is always going to be out there in pass rushing downs. DeForest Buckner is always going to be out there, obviously. Quidi Pei is going to be out there a lot on pass rushing downs. But who is that fourth guy? Is it Taekwon Lewis coming off of his major injury? Is it Dio coming off of his major injury and, you know, rookie season that wasn't really a rookie season? It's going to be interesting to see who gets those snaps. And if Dio can have a strong camp and be the Dio that we saw in college, those are his snaps. And he's going to always be
Starting point is 00:25:55 one-on-one. He's never going to get a slide protection his way, just like Eddie said there at the beginning. So, I mean, expectations-wise for that, anything he does is kind of gravy at this point. I mean, cause they, the other three guys are going to be the big dogs, but you know, he could play a pretty big role on passing downs, uh, this year being an, being a one-on-one guy, uh, who's going to be in like a three tech or a four tech rushing, rushing next to DeForest Buckner. I mean, he's always going to have one-on-one opportunities.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You just got to clean up those sacks. Yeah, I think you're exactly right. His role is what he makes it this year. Because, I mean, his main competition is Tyquan Lewis and Ifeany Odenikbo. Odenikbo, there's Brooks on those passing downs, you know, like a little bit. But if you can't beat out a six-round rookie, I mean, who am I to be easier? Exactly. Yeah, I mean, Brooks, like you said, six-round rookie, primarily going to be three-tech.
Starting point is 00:26:51 But Odenigbo, they didn't sign him to eat away at Dio's snaps or pay snaps. And then Taekwon, he's coming over one of the most difficult injuries for an NFL player to come back from. And even though they do like him again, are they really going to give him a ton of playing time over, over Dio? So right. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I, his role is what he makes it. If, if he looks good, then they're going to give him a bunch of snaps. I would think he'll be that, that next guy up in the rotation. Did you see what I did there though?
Starting point is 00:27:24 I got Curtis Brooks into the podcast again. Of course, the Curtis Brooks podcast featuring Kylan Granson. This is Kylan's first mention of the day. We had to do it to him. So this podcast, this locked on Colts podcast episode is brought to you by Curtis Brooks, Curtis Brooks,
Starting point is 00:27:39 the best rookie, the Colts ever had. All right, go ahead. We can finish the show now, even over Jonathan Taylor or Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Don't worry about it. On that note,
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