Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts Legend Bob Sanders Deserves to Be in Ring of Honor

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

The Indianapolis Colts are likely to add another Ring of Honor inductee in Week 7 against the Cleveland Browns. For our money, Bob Sanders or Dallas Clark make the most sense. Aside from those two franchise greats, who else deserves to be in the Ring of Honor? We also discuss Andrew Luck and if there is any case for him to make it into the Ring one day.Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://link.chtbl.com/LOColts?sid=YouTube📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQLocked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://linktr.ee/LockedOnNFLFollow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOnFN!Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!birddogsGo to birddogs.com/LOCKEDONNFL or enter promo code LOCKEDONNFL for a free Yeti-style tumbler with your order. You won’t want to take your birddogs off we promise you.eBay MotorsFor parts that fit, head to eBay Motors and look for the green check. Stay in the game with eBay Guaranteed Fit. eBay Motors dot com. Let’s ride. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply.LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelMake Every Moment More. Don’t miss the chance to get your No Sweat First Bet up to TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in Bonus Bets when you go FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bob Sanders deserves to be the next member of the Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor. Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. All right, what's up, everyone? Thanks for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. I am Jake Arthur. He is Zach Hicks.

And you know the two of us from HorseshoeHuddle.com. I'm your boots on the ground reporting to you live from the facility, live from the stadium. Training camp is about to kick on, so I'm getting really excited about that. You guys can follow me on Twitter and all that for everything, all the updates there. And then Zach has been just hitting it hard with film stuff over the offseason. He's obviously brought you all the Anthony Richardson and Shane Steichen content that you can stand. And more to come as the season ramps up. So welcome to the show.

On today's episode, we've been thinking about the Ring of Honor lately, and there's some players who really, really deserve it. Kind of coming off of an era of Colts football where there's a lot of names, kind of a logjam of guys who need to get in. So we'll tell you who we think is next to get in, who we think really ought to be the next to get in, followed by current players on the you who we think is next to get in, who we think really ought to be the next to get in, followed by current players on the roster who we think are basically destined for the Ring of Honor by the time their careers are up. So just to kind of set the stage for you guys a little bit, the Colts have had a new inductee into the Ring of Honor every season since 2010, except for 2014 because they had two players go in 2013. That was Eric Dickerson and Marshall Falk.

And then of course in the 2020 season with COVID, they weren't doing any extra, anything like that back then. They currently have just over a dozen members, Robert Ursae, Bill Brooks, Ted Marchabrota, Chris Hinton, Jim Harbaugh, the 12th man slash Colts Nation, Tony Dungy, Marvin Harrison, Edrin James, Eric Dickerson, and Marshall Falk, Jeff Saturday, Bill Pullian, Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, and then this most recent season was Tareq Glenn. So the Colts kind of released their themes of each kind of home game earlier today, or I guess it was what I don't know what today is, honestly. But they put for week seven, October 22nd versus the Browns is like basically a TBD, like we'll holler at you later type of thing. So it got us thinking like that makes a lot of sense to be the next ring of honor introduction and uh you know there's we've got four guys here who we really think are the most likely

and we'll start it out by we'll we'll talk about pat mcafee first uh you know that's a guy who's very close with jim ursae obviously very beloved in the indianapolis market he's still here he's got the pat mcafee show, has been hugely successful. As good of a punter as he was, you know, two Pro Bowls, one All-Pro, he has been even more of a smash hit as a member of the media. I could really see that one. That one almost seems the most easy. It seems like the easiest choice.

Not necessarily from a total accomplishments, but just gun to your head. Who's going to be the next person? Who do the Colts want? Who would definitely do it? To me, that makes a ton of sense. I don't know. I think he's the fourth most likely of these four. I'm going to say the fourth most likely.

And the main reason is we're kind of getting in like recent years. We've seen with the most recent inductees. We've seen Tariq Glenn, Robert Mathis, Dwight freeney reggie wayne peyton manning you know that's the whole era of colts football that just happened you know like the golden era of colts football and they still have guys on the back burner from that era who contributed to a super bowl victory where major parts of that super bowl victory over the Chicago Bears. I think you need to just get those guys in before you look at a punter who was really fun and has been great in the media and stuff like that. Like, don't get me wrong. And his peak there was really good. But it's just like how I don't know, I really can't get behind getting him over these other three guys we're about to talk about.

And one of these other three guys is a kicker. So, you know, for a fact that I don't want to be saying this but I just I don't know I just think it's crazy to put him in over these other guys who were such a big part of that golden era of Colts football and honestly I mean one of them in particular which is the theme of this entire show what you kind of led off with like he's just way more accomplished than a guy like Pat McAfee so I would put these other three guys over him. But like you said, it wouldn't shock me if it's Pat McAfee because the fans love him. He's still very active in the indie market. Jim Irsay obviously still has a relationship with him.

And, you know, he's one of the good old boys with the organization. But I think he's the least deserving of these four guys, even if you eventually do get him in one day. I think these other three guys really make the most sense. Yeah. And I mean, you're a special teams lover. I mean, all things kicking specialists. So let's just get the next guy out of the way. Someone who is a member of that golden Peyton Manning era. Adam Vinatieri obviously had the Super Bowl. I don't believe he participated in the Saints Super Bowl. I think that's the year he was hurt, but he was a part of two Super Bowl teams with the Colts nonetheless. Most accomplished kicker in two franchises histories basically at the time that he left them. He erased the hurt

of Mike Vanderjack at the time, so Vinatieri would be very deserving as well. I mean, he's freshly retired too, so that ink is still kind of drying. But obviously another big name that is probably going to get in at some point. Yeah, he'll certainly get in one day. I just don't think it'll be this one either for him. But I mean, if they did put him in, I mean, it's arguably the greatest kicker in the history of the sport, or he's the greatest retired kicker in the history of the sport. We still don't know what Justin Tucker is going to be one day with all his accolades. But yeah, Vinatieri, one of the most clutch players in the history of NFL and did a

lot of really good things in Indy. So yeah, I think he'll get in one day for sure. Yeah. Next guy up, because we definitely want to dive in deep to our favorite player here first. Dallas Clark makes a lot of sense. He is the most accomplished tight end of the Indy era Colts. Obviously, John Mackey overall is the best. But Dallas Clark followed in some big shoes of Ken Dilger and Marcus Pollard. He came out and he was a truly dynamic weapon for Peyton Manning and was consistently one of probably the top five tight ends in the league throughout his career, at least while he was playing with Manning. So that's another big one that makes a lot of sense. Still basically the most accomplished statistically tight end

in the Colts record books. Yeah, this would be the one I would say is most likely is Dallas Clark because you've gotten all the other pass catchers in there, the most prominent pass catchers. Dallas Clark has the accolade. He has the first team all pro. He has the Pro Bowl. He has the 100-catch season for a tight end, which is insane. And I think, does he still come to a lot of those events and stuff like the old retired Colts players do and stuff like that?

I believe so. He's still somewhat active in Indy. He doesn't live here, I don't think. But he hasn't spermed them yeah yeah so I just think that one makes the most sense you see him a lot still like with with Colt stuff he was a big big part of that golden era and then again when you look at that era of Colts football it was passing the ball it was great high-flying offensive football you've got Reggie Wayne in you've got Marvin Harrison you've got Peyton Manning in now get the other pass

catcher who was also a star throughout that in Dallas Clark. So I think this is the one that's most likely and the one I think is going to be announced next week on the 17th. That's not any sourced info or anything like that, but it feels like Dallas Clark is like the next guy in line to go in. Now for the guy who I think is most widely desired to be in this spot by Colts fans.

And definitely the two of us, Bob Sanders, the really, you make a hard argument in the era of Ed Reed and Troy Palomaro, that Bob Sanders shouldn't have been right there. If he wasn't as healthy as those guys, you know, yeah.

Two Pro Bowls, two first team, all pros, the defensive player of the year. You know, I know you're going to mention that the Colts do not win that Superbowl against the bears without him. two Pro Bowls, two first-team All-Pros, the defensive player of the year. I know you're going to mention that the Colts do not win that Super Bowl against the Bears without him. He basically was hurt all year and came back for the playoffs and turned what was an absolutely god-awful run defense

into an elite unit they had to face. Larry Johnson, Jamal Lewis, and Steve McNair with the Ravens. Everything the Patriots were always able to do on the ground. This is an easy one. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to talk about more here in our next segment, but Bob Sanders, to me, is the most deserving Colts player that is not currently in the ring of honor that needs to be in. I know it was only a three to four year span where he was that dominant force but that impact that he brought in that three to four year span along with the accolades along with what he did in crunch time on the path to the Super Bowl and

even in that Super Bowl game he absolutely deserves to get it but we're going to talk about that here in a second I don't want to run this segment too long so we're going to start our next segment by continuing this Bob Sanders conversation. Yeah. We'll talk about Bob Sanders and then along with a couple other guys who we think really ought to make it, who maybe aren't easy choices who may not actually make it ever,

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But I don't think people remember. Well, I think people do remember. I think people realize, but maybe people outside of Indy don't remember the state of that Colts team during that Super Bowl run. Of all the years where the Indianapolis Colts were going to win the Super Bowl, it was not that season. And I say this as someone, you know, I did not grow up a Colts fan. I actually liked both the Bears and the Colts from afar. I actually loved both teams. Brian Urlacher was bald like I was going to be one day,

so I was a big fan of that. And obviously Peyton Manning. Now it's my turn. Yeah, yeah. And then Peyton Manning had the same birthday as me so as a little kid I'm like yeah there we go that those are my two teams right there so I was really excited for that Super Bowl but to get to there like again people don't realize that that Colts defense was so so bad throughout the season Bob Sanders barely

played and I believe this was the year right before the playoffs started where I had the infamous Jaguars game where 375 yards. Was it only 375? I was going to say 500. It felt like 500 yards rushing. Because the field is only 100 yards long. That's why. Yeah, they had to stop at some point. That's what happened.

So going into the playoffs, the Colts just had one of the most embarrassing defensive performances against the Jacksonville Jaguars in one of the few times where they weren't wrestling their starters in that last that last week of the season you know like this was not the year they were going to win the Super Bowl then Bob Sanders comes back this defense plays out of their mind throughout the playoffs and then we get to the Super Bowl and yes the Chicago Bears offense was not a juggernaut that year you know they had Rex Grossman at the quarterback position. But on the ground, they had Cedric Benson and Thomas Jones, two really good running backs, who were completely shut down by the Colts defense.

Bob Sanders had multiple pass breakups in that game, had a forced fumble in that game, should have been the Super Bowl MVP. And this is only one season I'm talking about with Bob Sanders. The seasons right around that, this was the season sandwiched in between two first team, all pro seasons for him and a defensive player of the year award season. Like Bob Sanders is a franchise. Great. And it sucks that it was only a three to four year peak with him and not

even a peak. It was a three to four year like span. Like it wasn't even his peak. That was all he was with the Colts. He was healthy for two of those four seasons. He was really impactful for three of them. And he really earned a spot in the history of this Colts franchise. So I think when you're looking at most deserving players and who I want in there more than anybody else it's bob sanders like he is he he's a he's like a one of the

safeties that defines the early 2000s despite again only having a three-year peak he made a place for himself in a league with ed reed troy palomaro sean taylor was was running around john lynch was still there in the league like these are some all-time greats brian dawkins how'd i miss brian dawkins in a league that had all these guys he was a first team all pro twice defense player of the year and the most impactful player on a super bowl run so that's my big spiel there i really think bob sanders is the most deserving player he deserves to be this year's ring of honor guy i don't know if it's going to happen but they got to make it happen sometime soon oh yeah and he he had rare ability.

Like, you don't see a lot of safeties anymore who can fill the duties of both free and strong. But Sanders could play like a linebacker or like he was always up in the box, like not only in the box, but in the backfield, like shooting gaps and like killing guys in the backfield. But he also played the back half of the field really well. He could track the ball. He was only 5'8", but he could

win jump balls. One of the picks he had in that Super Bowl was against Bernard Berrien, I think, who was one of the most dangerous deep threats in the entire league that season with Rex Grossman. I'm going to say, with Rex Grossman, so take it for what it is.

Grossman liked to throw it long. In our thumbnail picture for this YouTube video, you can see it was a little bit underthrown. It was just a little bit. Hey, Rex Grossman is from Indiana. So that's how we're tying this all in. And he was the quarterback of my team growing up over in Washington. But yeah, yeah, it was a fun year. But anyway, the other guy we want to talk about in this segment here, because it's a big controversial one, is the quarterback that is Andrew Luck. Now, kind of like Bob Sanders, you know, he was with Indy for a while, but we only saw a couple healthy seasons.

I want to say it was four to five healthy seasons in Indy. Obviously, there was a couple to start his career that looked really promising. He was supposed to be the next Peyton Manning in Indy, and it really looked like that. You know, 2012 was really promising. He was supposed to be the next Peyton Manning in Indy, and it really looked like that. You know, 2012 was really promising. 2013 took the team all the way to the AFC Championship game. We don't want to talk about what happened after that, but obviously got them to the AFC Championship game,

had the most historic comeback in playoff history up until this last season that happened with the Jaguars and the Chargers. And, yeah, they had a lot of really great seasons, had a great season in 2018 with Frank Reich. And then obviously the, the retirement that happened the following season, to me, it's hard to make the case for Andrew Luck in a vacuum for making the,

the ring of honor, because part of me wants to say, look, where are the accolades? Where are the accomplishments? Where are the championships and stuff like that? Like Bob Sanders won a Super Bowl. It was a big part of that.

Dallas Clark won a Super Bowl. Adam Benataris won multiple Super Bowls, including one with Indy, and been to a couple. Andrew Luck obviously didn't win a Super Bowl. He doesn't have many all pros or anything. I don't think he has an all pro in his career. I think he has one or two pro bowls in his career too. So it's like,

it's hard to make that case off of accolades, you know, Jake. So like, I would personally probably lean no on Andrew Luck. Although I could be swayed by some conversations, but gun to my head, I'm going to say, I'd probably say no for Andrew Luck,

like long-term in the ring of honor. I think it'll eventually happen. Cause I do think he is deserving um i think he actually aside from the injuries and retiring early he lived up to the hype of what he was supposed to be now team success is a big factor in that obviously but as a player we saw him take some of the sorriest rosters in the n. They went 11-5 his first three years. A team that was just 2-14 and did not look all that much better as far as the roster goes next season.

11-5 playoffs as a rookie. Just the things he was able to do. He missed the 2017 season but picked up in 2018 and looked better than he ever had. And then he abruptly retires in 2019. We see that the Colts, once again, they're a sorry team. I mean, overall, I mean, they went a little farther than they should have. But like, man, I, it is tough because again, like you said, I can see the argument against it.

I think the wound is still too fresh for a lot of fans. I think the Colts have to have a quarterback they're successful with for more than one season. Again, before it happens, they have to have some sort of postseason success because really the best thing that's happened to them since he retired was the 2020 season with Philip Rivers who retired after that so uh they that that's still again it's still a wound Anthony Richardson if if he can be a pretty good player uh within the first few years maybe that helps ease some of it if the Colts can get back to the playoffs

or something. But I don't think you want to bring Andrew Luck back into that situation until it's going to be widespread fanfare, which I think the crowd generally does. They were very shocked, shell-shocked at the time of their retirement. But, yeah, it's kind of like the Brett Favre thing with the Packers. Like you just don't do it until you're confident. Okay, a little different here.

People actually like Andrew Luck here, okay? We're not – Brett Favre had some things happen after that. At the time. Brett Favre got much worse afterwards. Yeah, last thing I'll say about this is, again, gun to my head I'm going to say no on andrew luck but i'm a lot stricter notably if you guys see me on twitter with hall of fame conversations i'm a lot stricter on a lot of these type of things uh but i will say this if

jim harbaugh's in the ring of honor yeah i mean andrew luck has a pretty same resume you know that took him to the afc championship game had a couple good seasons like that when I'm like, okay, maybe Andrew Luck does deserve to get in. So that's really all I really have on that with Andrew Luck. Coming up, guys, we're going to talk about some current players that are destined for the Ring of Honor one day. We're going to talk about that here in just a second. All right, Jake. So getting into some current players that we think are destined. Obviously, it's two guys that are 100% going to be in there one day.

The accolades speak for themselves. Yes, there hasn't been a ton of team success, but there's not many players in the history of this franchise, even, that have three All-Pros under their belt. And the Colts got two of them in the same draft class, in Quentin Nelson and Shaquille Leonard. Yes, there's concern with Shaquille Leonard's long-term health and how much longer he's going to...

I don't even want to speculate. We don't even know what's going on with him going forward. So there are concerns going forward with a lot of the injury stuff. And obviously, Quentin Nelson's play did take a slight step back. Last year, he was a pro bowler instead of an all-pro. But again, if you look at the history of the Colts franchise, I believe every single player who has more than one all pro with the Colts is in the ring of honor. So I'd be hard pressed to say

that these two guys are not going to be in the ring of honor one day, regardless of what the team success is during their tenure here in Indy. Yeah. Quentin's pretty easy. He could retire today and he'd be in it. Like he's still on a hall of fame trajectory in his career. Like people still say, you know, if he strings together five more seasons, you know, he's a hall of famer.

So he's pretty easy. Leonard. I do think for his accomplishments would be in the ring of honor. He's been before, before last season, he was pretty commonly considered the best linebacker in the NFL. He had a rare skillset that not a lot of people in the NFL have rookie of the year. Again, Pro Bowls and all pros out the wazoo just was the best overall

defensive player. The Colts had of that generation really since Robert Mathis was in his at the end of his prime you can say so I think he's got a pretty easy argument again even if he doesn't come back to being himself and then there's a there's a couple other guys we talked about here DeForest Buckner now a lot of the meat of his career happened before he got with the Colts he appeared in a Super Bowl with the 49ers. But I think he's still done enough with the Colts. He's got an all pro and a pro bowl since coming here.

I think if he has like one more, I think he probably would already get it. But I think especially if he gets like one more really good season, which why wouldn't he? I think he's a player that needs team success to get into it yeah um like with quentin nelson and jakeel lander they feel like they are players who even if the team doesn't win a super bowl with them here like they were just so good for their era that you're gonna put them in you know again three time all pros like that just doesn't happen that's it's very you were the toptier player of your sport for a number of years. You're going to have to put them in some kind of ring of honor

or even a Hall of Fame if Shaquille Leonard can get back to what he was doing. DeForest Buckner, because he was a late acquisition, he was kind of the guy that they brought in to try to push them over the top. And it's not like he's been bad by any means. He's been a really good player for the Colts like one of the better defensive tackles in the league but he just feels like a player where again when you remember him you're going to remember a lot of 49ers you know he went to the Super Bowl with the 49ers uh it's kind of like the Adam Vinatieri thing like if Vinatieri comes here and never wins a Super Bowl are we saying the same things are we putting him

in the Colts ring of honor when he won three Super Bowls with the Patriots but like he was a big part of those Patriots ones but if he doesn't win one of the Colts like do you even consider him in the Colts like he played for the Colts for a super long time yeah but you kind of want that that team accomplishment so I think DeForest Buckner needs some more team success even if it's like you know Richardson pans out and they're consistently a deep playoff run team like obviously that's one of the best case scenarios but just them being a consistent playoff threat and a consistently good team and he continues to be deforest buckner for like the next five years or whatever four or five years uh then i think he's a ring of honor type guy but i think he needs

that team success because he was a trade act like a trade piece a trade acquisition yeah um because you're always going to associate him a little bit with that other team and the success he had with the other team so i think he needs that just a little bit more than the other guys do but great player probably the best defensive tackle the indianapolis colts have ever had i don't want to say probably he is the best defensive tackle the indianapolis colts ever had you might be able to go back to you know the 1920s and find some other guys that you know marchetti yeah. Gino Marchetti is a player you put in there, but best defensive tackle of the Indianapolis Colts era for sure. Yeah. I mean, I would put him in because even though I'm a stickler for this stuff, I'd probably put him in because he's that good of a player. But again,

it really comes down to team success when he's an acquisition type player. I think that would definitely help, but I, I liked that you mentioned he's the best defensive tackle they've had. And I think that in itself is probably enough, but again, if he has another good season or two, like I think, you know, from the criteria of some of the guys that are already in there, I think he becomes kind of, kind of a simple choice. Yeah. The last one, I think he's kind of polarizing uh jonathan taylor so obviously he needs to get this next contract like current body of work plus even whatever he does this season i don't think will be enough i think he needs to go into a second contract with the team

because right now he's kind of riding the joseph adai line like i mean obviously better but yeah yeah yeah but in terms of accomplishments like he's one of the better running backs the colts have ever had but if he if he has another if his next three four years are like his first three four years then like you're putting him in a really high conversation because right now the colts have a rare history of running backs like Edrin James, Dickerson Falk. They're all Hall of Famers. Lenny Moore, you're following Hall of Famers. So right now, I think that's why you're kind of sitting there at the Joseph Adai peg.

He's better than Adai was, but Adai was around a little longer. So if you have a couple more Jonathan Taylor seasons, I think running back is such a flashy position that it would be hard not to say yes to that. I'm kind of interested to see if it's more of a longevity thing to you. How long do you think he needs to do this to get in? Yeah, so I'll say two things really big here. One is it's really hard for a running back in this era of football. It just is to be like a ring of honor type player because teams pass you around so much because they don't want to pay you.

And, and, oh, the second you look like you're breaking down, we're going to cut you and let you go. Like Dalvin Cook is a, should be a ring of honor guy with the Vikings, but they just cut them like into his big deal. Like it's going to be like a really weird situation. So that's going to be the biggest thing right there. If, you know,

if he gets that second contract, stuff like that, then, then yeah, I could, I could certainly see him being a ring of honor guy, but I kind of want to pose this, you know,

is he on the Joseph a die path or is he on the Marshall Falk path? Oh, going somewhere else. Yeah. Because Marshall Falk was really good in Indy, but he wasn't here that long and then he went somewhere else and became a hall of fame player and they put him in the ring of honor still where Jonathan Taylor first team all pro offensive player of the year here in Indy

like that that's warrant that warrants like consideration itself but if he goes somewhere else and is a multiple time pro bowler a multiple time all pro or something like that then he's like a Marshall Falk type player where you put him in to your ring of honor to celebrate what he did with another team kind of but also that you kind of were the ones who found him you know like he started here don't worry guys he started here you know I think he's closer to that kind of like I don't want to say he is Marshall Falk because that's that's crazy but he's closer to Falk than he is Adai for sure right that's what I mean like I think it's a closer to that situation than a Joseph Adai where Joseph Adai was a good player that just stuck around for a minute and was really good uh but Jonathan

Taylor was elite you know he was elite especially that one season uh and Marshall Falk was that before he went somewhere else and became Marshall Falk you know yeah I I think I think that's right you know even even if he did go somewhere else like he's going he's going to the chiefs where he should have been you know in the first place or something that is kind of the parallel because falk went to the rams the best offense in the league um but now i think yeah i mean because he does take very good care of his body. This ankle stuff that happened with him is like the first injuries he's really had as a football player. So I think if he gets this next contract and is Jonathan Taylor, then I think that'll be enough. Yeah.

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