Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts' Matt Ryan, Alec Pierce Dominate Detroit Lions in Joint Practice

Episode Date: August 18, 2022

The Indianapolis Colts' offense, led by Matt Ryan, Michael Pittman Jr., and Alec Pierce, dominated the Detroit Lions' defense during the first day of joint practices. Rookie tight end Drew Ogletree su...ffered a season-ending knee injury. What are Jake and Zach looking forward to defensively on Thursday?Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ🎧 Apple https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1151621306🎧 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6meP450baAtjX4rTENZ5ij🎧 Audacy https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts-daily-podcast-on-the-indianapolis-colts-21701🎧 Google https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vUFBZODk1ODUyODkyNQ🎧 Megaphone https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/lockedoncoltsFollow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, and @LockedOnColts!Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DaveDownload the Dave app from the App store right now for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to dave.com/legal. Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC.BetterHelpIt’s not a crisis line, it’s not self-help, it’s professional therapy done securely online, available to people worldwide. And they have a special offer for my listeners: get 10% off your first month at Betterhelp.com/LockedOnEliasNFL season is right around the corner, so don’t wait! Find Elias Game Plan in the App Store or Play Store today!LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFLBuilt BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Athletic GreensTo make it easy, Athletic Greens is going to give you a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. All you have to do is visit athleticgreens.com/NFLNETWORK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Matt Ryan in the passing game saved their best performance for the visiting Lions as the Colts held down the fort at Grand Park on Wednesday, but at what cost? All that and much more on this episode of Locked on Colts. Let's get to it. You are Locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. All right, Colts fans, thanks so much for tuning in and making us your number one listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. I'm Jake Arthur, and I'm joined, as always, by my partner, Zach Hicks. For anyone who's new to the show, you know us from horseshoehuddle.com. I'm also a credentialed member of the Colts Media, bringing you the scoop from camp every day
Starting point is 00:01:06 and from the facility during the season. And I'm also a member of the PFWA. Zach, go ahead and tell our new friends a little about yourself. Oh, shucks, man. I keep having to say this every single day. But no, I'm a big film nerd. I've made my mark in the indie area
Starting point is 00:01:22 through Stampede Blue with SB Nation and picked up with Horseshoe Huddle through Sports Illustrated with Jake here in the past year. Before that, you know, I was a big draft guy. I did a lot of stuff with DraftWire, Cover One. I worked with Locked On in the past. And, yeah, I'm sure you guys see me on Twitter. Again, I'm the snarky guy on there.
Starting point is 00:01:40 So I kind of fit in pretty well with the indie stuff. You know, I think it's a good fit for me. So I'm sure you guys have seen me out there. So I kind of fit in pretty well with the indie stuff. You know, I think it's, I think it's a good fit for me. So I'm sure you guys have seen me out there. It is a cast of characters for sure, but we love you guys. Yeah. So Wednesday was the first of two joint practices between the Colts and Lions and boy, did the Colts want this one? The offensive defense, they perform simultaneously on different fields fields so I can only watch one group at a time right so I watched the offense today but from what I heard from some of the other guys you know Lions reporters as well the Colts defense looked pretty good too I guess the the Lions
Starting point is 00:02:16 offense has done well against their defense throughout camp but they kind of hit a bit of a buzzsaw against this Colts defense but anyways anyways, we'll get to that in a bit. But today we'll just kind of go over the news and notes and tell you how things went down for the Colts offense. Zach, very unfortunate news to start out with. We'll get the bad news out there first. Rookie tight end Drew Ogletree, who you guys have heard us talk endlessly about all summer.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He went down during seven on sevens today with a non-contact injury. And as of about 30 minutes ago, it's being reported that it's a season ending ACL injury for Ogletree. You know, we going into camp, we assumed he was tied in four. He's honestly looked like probably the most complete guy out there. You could argue even against Mo Alley Cox and really has vied for that tight end two tight end three spot and so unfortunately a promising rookie year is is over before it could really begin yeah you know this this changes so much
Starting point is 00:03:18 from the stuff we talked about and just to start off this this whole conversation I mean uh shout out to Joel A Ericksonson, who broke this news. I always like to give credit to the reporters who break the news. He broke the news about the ACL injury. It is very unfortunate. Drew Ogletree has had a great camp from everything that you said, from everything I've seen from other people. And this is a guy who coming into OTAs, like you said, was tight end four, you know, and we're talking a six round 24 year old coming into camp as, you know, tight end four. And by all accounts,
Starting point is 00:03:54 he had at least moved up to tight end three, maybe the tight end two. And like you just said, you know, there's been moments where he's looked like tight end one, you know, he was running with the first team for a lot of camp, looked good in the first preseason game against the bills honestly i i didn't put it in my film stuff but uh and you know molly cox didn't play too much but outside of molly cox he looked like the best blocker of all the tight ends as well like really solid there uh and he was playing so well to where we were at the point we were saying four tight ends for this roster was an absolute lock like we we did it we just did our whole podcast yesterday about how going through the locks at every position tight end was a lock at four
Starting point is 00:04:37 you know which is which is rare most teams don't don't roster for tight ends uh but drew ogledrew is playing so well that we were convinced that he was going to make this roster. So you know what they say. This is a minor setback for a big comeback, but when you're a six-round pick in the NFL, your chances of making a roster and making a career for yourself in this league is so low to where you add on that he's 24, you add on and now an ACL injury, it's going to have to defy all odds for him to make it in this league. But he seems like a player who can defy those odds, a player who had a great camp and can come back from this. So I don't want
Starting point is 00:05:18 to bury him right now, but this is just a tough, tough injury's just it's just the unfortunate part of football you know like we can always cover it from like uh you know cut this player that this player sucks this player is great and stuff like that but at the end of the day these are these are human beings and drew ogletree is a human being whose livelihood is on on display every single time he steps out there so tearing an acl uh this early into his career is tough. But again, he seems like a player who could bounce back from it. It just sucks, man. It's the worst part about this sport is when you see guys who you want to see succeed in this league go through this adversity. But hopefully he can bounce back from this and come back stronger next year. It just, it just sucks, man. It sucks. Yeah. And you know, since
Starting point is 00:06:06 he can't be playing, obviously you mentioned he seemed like a good guy. He, he actually, he seems like a very bright young guy. You know, I think Nate Atkins wrote a feature on him, right. And he started, I think it's still Nate's pinned tweet. If you guys want to go check that out for a little more background on, on Ogletree. I thought it was really kind of touching. When he was down there, Frank Reich was immediately out there. And then Michael Pittman, Desmond Patman, and Paris Campbell all kind of surrounded him. And Paris Campbell, who's been through everything, he was down there and just couldn't have been a better guy to give
Starting point is 00:06:43 Ogletree words of encouragement in that moment. So he'll, you know, I'm willing to bet on him, you know, coming back. But yeah, it's really unfortunate. Some of the other stuff, some of the other odds and ends from camp today, guys who are out, Isaiah Rogers remains out with a concussion. Dennis Kelly remains out. Kiki QT is out. JoJo Doman, second straight day.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Armani Watts was out again. Chris Williams, Anthony Chesley, and Will Redman. No big shockers there. All those guys we kind of already knew about their injuries or they've been out. Yeah, I mean, obviously you want to see the guys in these joint practices, but again, at the end of the day, it's offseason stuff. You don't want to force guys out there, even if it's minor stuff like Chris Williams, for instance.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You know, he's out of that boot. He's been out of the boot for a couple of days now. You still don't want to force it because at the end of the day, it is it is just the offseason is training camp. But hopefully those guys can get back soon because you know like we've been saying a lot these joint practices are the biggest you know practices of the season it's the most important stuff of the year so uh you want to see these guys out there and and hopefully guys like like you know like doman or cootie or or chris williams you know they can get back out there because they're you know they're probably making the team or they could make the team, but you want to see them solidify that against the Lions this week. Yeah, yeah, without question.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And, of course, with joint practices, things get a little spicier. The Colts have other teams in for joint practices pretty much every summer nowadays. The Lions, you know, they've got a real a real gritty, hard nosed head coach. Although I if I saw something correctly, he did not want fighting going on. But it's naturally going to happen. There were a few dust ups today. There weren't any like big all out brawls. But, you know, there was a big ish one during special teams.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know, someone got hit close to the sideline. And then the biggest one was Michael Pittman Jr., big shocker. But he didn't – this wasn't him being, you know, sensitive or nothing. Like, Deshaun Elliott threw him down after a play was well over. Like, he didn't need to do it. He could have just wrapped him up in a hug, you know, like most guys do. But, no, he threw threw him down Pittman won't take that if his Colts teammates do that to him no so he had something to say Quentin Nelson was
Starting point is 00:09:11 immediately there to back him up and then things started to die down and then here comes Jeff Okuda like hey wait guys I didn't I didn't get to talk my my part pushes Pittman as everything's already calming down, and then both sides come in and just, yeah. Luckily, it didn't really get too rowdy. It was mostly guys just jawing at each other, like the entire team. So not to take up too much time here, but this reminds me of a couple years ago, the first time I ever made it out to IndyCamp. Me and my wife drove out there for, you know, it was like a 12 hour drive for us. Right. From Virginia out to Indy.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And I was going out there scheduled to watch the Browns and Colts, you know, joint practices and stuff. And I actually left a day early because me and my wife being the young couple that we are, we missed our dog. So we went home early. You know, you know how it early. You know how it is. It is how it is. Been there. But I remember on the drive home, I had Jake's tweet notifications on. This was obviously before we were working together.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And I just remember seeing fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. So it actually shows a little bit that this team has matured over the years to where that Browns practice in 2019. I just, again, I remember I wasn't there, but I remember seeing from you that like it was fight after fight after fight after fight. Now it's like the fight starts. And then you have guys like Quentin Nelson, who was young back in 2019, a young kid who would probably want to want to fight now separating the fight, you or ryan kelly separating the fight another guy and i'm not saying that if you want to get into a fight you're this immature kid or anything like that but maybe it shows some growth that this team is doing where it's like it's not fight after fight
Starting point is 00:10:55 and going crazy it's okay these they scrimmage just start for a second and then they kind of separate yeah it's definitely good because that those Brown sessions were ridiculous. That second practice, they couldn't even finish it like they couldn't even get through a simple punt drill like they just kept fighting. It was. Yeah. And that was that was the one I missed. Yep, exactly. Yeah. Lucky for that. So they were fighting on the field. But, you know, sometimes you got to fight for a job as well. And that's when you got to bring in LinkedIn, guys. As you gear up for fall, you need the right people on your team to help your small business fire on all cylinders. LinkedIn Jobs is here to make it easier to find the people you want to talk to faster and for free.
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Starting point is 00:13:09 So, yeah, just kind of starting with the linemen. Honestly, I thought the Lions defensive linemen did really well. It was a really strong, powerful group. Aiden Hutchinson looked the part. He's really quick. Watching him in person, he's really quick. He's got some counter moves. He's especially got this spin off of a blocker. People have a spin move when they're getting up to the blocker to avoid
Starting point is 00:13:30 him but he's got a nice spin to get disengaged uh so i thought he looked really really good aleem mcneil uh early draft pick from last year i think that dude is strong. Like he was pushing dudes back like way into their zone. So I liked what I saw from him. There were some Colts offensive linemen that did all right in this. I think Jordan Murray got Hutchinson on one and Quentin Nelson looked pretty good, of course, but yeah, it was a, it was a decent looking group on both sides. Yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:14:03 I'm excited that Danny Pinter got exposed to a player like Ali McNeil. He sure did. But that's big for Danny Pinter. Even if he's losing those reps, it is exposing him to powerful interior defensive lines. Because Danny Pinter, to me,
Starting point is 00:14:20 at right guard, it's an interesting fit. Because Danny Pinter is so athletic and so flexible that he's a guy who he can reach every second level block he could pull he can move uh but when it's down in that nitty-gritty when it's that that one-on-one when it's that power v power that's where he struggles because he's just a smaller guy you know and it's weird to say like this six foot three like 300 pound guy is a smaller player. He kind of is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He kind of is. He probably fits better as a center than for most teams. But for the Colts, he's going to be this right guard. So being exposed to a player like a Liam McNeil, where he has to kind of learn to adjust to that power, where you don't have to always win. You can have ugly wins you know where the guy drives you back a couple yards but you can but if you re-anchor and you kind of just settle
Starting point is 00:15:10 yourself after a couple yards you can still win that rep so uh being exposed to a player like Lee McNeil who McNeil doesn't really have that many moves right now but he's so naturally powerful that he's going to drive you back that kind of of shows Danny Pinter that, you know, you can win ugly. You know, you can be driven back, but you can, as long as you hold yourself at that last point or whatever, you can still win the rep. So that's why these joint practices are so important. You can see a guy like Danny Pinter learning from Lee McNeil where it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:39 okay, I need to win ugly sometimes. And that's good for him. Yeah. So that is the unglamorous side of offense now that it was it was all glamour on the offensive side of the ball today for the Colts this is the best Matt Ryan's look so far he was 10 of 12 whatever he wanted to do he was able to do it and one of the best parts of this was the Colts were working in the red zone today from about the 10 yard line. And we've seen them struggle before against the Colts defense.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They lit it up in this drill. Ryan had three straight reps of touchdowns. He had a really good one to Alec Pierce. If you guys haven't looked on the Colts Twitter yet, they tweeted that out. He found Pierce in the back left part of the end zone with Amani Oruwariye, who is Detroit's top corner right there. And, you know, they kind of jockeyed for the ball a little bit, but Pierce was able to grab it
Starting point is 00:16:35 and get both feet in before he came out of bounds. That was a really nice play. He hit Pittman right after that in the middle. And then Ashton Doolin made it a nice kind of competitive catch on the next one. So they looked a lot better against a different defense in the red zone today passing. We know they're going to look good running, but making sure they look good passing is important. Yeah, you know, I'm not going to sit here and pump smoke up our butts here and say that the Detroit Lions secondary is better than the Colts secondary.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like the Colts secondary is definitely better but i feel like a lot of people will say like oh it's just the lions secondary oh it's just the lions whatever like but they have jeff okuda who is a top 10 pick they have amani owari or i can't say his last name for me over waria yeah yeah you got it there i think he had like six or seven picks last year. Like he was a good quarter. He's good. He's real good, yeah. Really good. So they have some real players in that secondary.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And the Colts receivers came out and they played really well. And, you know, again, this isn't some ringing endorsement where it's like, oh, my gosh, the Colts receivers are actually elite. You know, after the whole week of people saying the Colts wide receivers suck and we need to add a veteran, now all of a sudden they're great because they beat the Lions secondary in joint practices. But it is good to see these young receivers kind of bouncing back from what some would say was a tough preseason game. Now, again, if you guys are watching this here on Thursday, I'm probably going to do a video, I think, on Alec Pierce against the Bills.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I'm not too sure right now, but Alec Pierce having such a great day against the Lions, that's volumes to just how well that he's had a, you know, how well he's performed in the offseason here. You know, he's not a player who came out from day one as an elite player, you know, like, oh my gosh, this is our wide receiver one, our wide receiver two, but he's a player where the Colts have thrown everything at him. So when it came to these joint practices, he was ready for everything that the Lions threw at him. And we kind of saw him perform at really high level. I mean, from everything I saw today, one-on-ones he dominated, seven-on-sevens he dominated,
Starting point is 00:18:40 11-on-11s, like you just said, he dominated. So Alec Pierce, I mean mean he's really benefiting from the colts kind of throwing everything out of and and that kind of again it speaks volumes to you know stefan gilmore is on you every single day you're gonna you're kind of forced to get better because you're facing stefan gilmore every single day so then when you face you know some pretty good corners of the lions it's like oh i face better than this every single day in practice. So seeing Alec Pierce have such a big day isn't shocking. And I'm glad that, you know, he's kind of building upon these training camp practices and looking better and better. Yeah, I actually said that exact thing on the sideline. I was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:20 it looks pretty good when he's going against someone other than Stephon Gilmore now, because against Gilmore, he's just getting rookies like gilmore is not letting him get anything and not that detroit's corners aren't good but like he's had this this tough on the job training now he's pretty much prepared to go out and do well but now he had you know like a nice 40 yard touchdown in the one-on-ones. He, he just looked really good. Pittman did as well. Pittman caught a little contested slant against, against Okuda. And when he was done running, it was about a 40 yard gain and it was legitimate.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Ryan hit him in stride. It's, it's just another thing where we see Pittman getting the ball in motion over the middle is going to be a lot of yards after catch this year. It's what we saw the Colts trying to do with him as a rookie. Couldn't really do it as much with Carson Wentz last year, but Matt Ryan fully intends on utilizing Pitt's yards after catch. Yeah, Michael Piven Jr., like we said a couple podcasts ago, we bet the over on all of his projections. We're expecting a huge year. But one thing I want to ask you, and I know we're running long on this segment,
Starting point is 00:20:33 but just because we don't have as much for the last segment, I think it's okay today. Kylan Granson, a player who today I saw had a couple drops, but I also saw had a couple big plays. What was your kind of takeaway today from Kylan Granson against the Lions? Yeah, no, he had one of my favorite plays of the day. It was during, it was a sevens or 11s, it doesn't matter. It was a tough catch in traffic.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But Ryan found him about 20 yards upfield around the numbers. And Granson had to kind of adjust and, you know, pull back as he fell back and caught it. And he's one of those guys that can make a lot of the difficult catches, even though he makes some of the routine ones look hard. But, no, he's just really heated up today. He had another good day. Like, I think he had a couple catches and 11s from Matt Ryan and he's
Starting point is 00:21:29 going to, it's going to, he's going to get more of a share now with, with Ogletree going out, but he's become one of Ryan's more favored targets. Like it's usually Pittman, Mo Alley, Cox,
Starting point is 00:21:41 Naheem Hines and Granson as his most targeted guys each day. And it was another decent day. Like, if you're stacking – if you're looking for him to stack days, then I would say this was another positive day for him. I'm telling you, if he can keep those drops to a minimum, he can be a legit pass catcher in this offense. So that's something to watch. I mean, I'm very curious about Kyland Granson,
Starting point is 00:22:04 especially now with Drew Ogletree's injury. But now, you know, we've been talking about all this fun stuff. We're talking about the coolest offense, but let's get to a very serious topic here, guys. You know, you're hanging out with some friends. You're putting back a few drinks. A few becomes a few too many. As the evening comes to an end and people start to head out, you think of calling for a ride. Nah, you live nearby. You can make it home okay. It's no big deal. What are the odds you'll get pulled over anyway? And even so, what's the worst that could happen? Your insurance goes up. You lose your license. You lose your job. You total your car. You kill someone. Everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk. The results are
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Starting point is 00:23:22 Now I know that you didn't really watch the defense today, Jake, but from talking to people or from anything that you saw, what did you see from the Colts' defense against this Lions offense, where, like you said, it's kind of been dominating the Lions' defensive practices? No, I honestly didn't really see or hear much. I think Stephon Gilmore looked good. I think, in general, it was the Colts secondary, you know, that kind of had put the stops up to their passing game. Because again, I'd heard
Starting point is 00:23:54 Detroit's offense had really been getting the better of their defense throughout camp. And so they entered with a little confidence. And then as soon as they hit the secondary against the Colts, it's like, what, what are we doing now? Like we can't get anything going. So from, from what I heard, you know, the Colts, the, the, any of the Colts people who are watching, right. Oh yeah. This is kind of a normal day for, for the Colts defense. And then the, the lions media who had been used to seeing the offense just cooking every day. We're like, no,
Starting point is 00:24:25 they're absolutely killing it right now. So that's what I heard through the grapevine today down, down the sidelines, but not much else. Yeah. Yeah. So the biggest, the biggest thing that I'm looking forward to you,
Starting point is 00:24:36 like looking at tomorrow when you're watching this defense is we know the Colts secondary is going to be good. You know, we know Stefan Gilmore is awesome. Like, we already know that. We don't need any more confirmation bias. Stephon Gilmore is awesome. Kenny Moore II, a really good player as well.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Julian Blackman, Nick Cross. I think we feel good about those players. But that up front, that front four, you know, not just Yannick Ngakwe and and deforest buckner but the rotational guys i'm so excited for you to just watch that defense tomorrow and just see how those rotational guys do because ben banigou versus jordan murray and bernard ryman is is one thing but how is he going to do against a taylor decker you know if he lines up against those you know and stuff like that so i i think that's such a huge part of this because if Ben Banigou is going to
Starting point is 00:25:26 be the rotational Leo this year, that rotational guy behind Yachting Gawkway, he has to beat guys like Taylor Decker, you know, maybe not every single time, but you know, every now and then, you know, so I think tomorrow when you're watching the defense, you know, I think that defensive line watching is going to be the most important thing. Yeah, the one-on-ones from that should look pretty nice, of course, but I really want to watch the 11-on-11.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Right. Just because that's way more of the simulated game. And since we're not going to see him on Saturday, that's what we're going to lean on. But no, I think you hit the nail on the head. Like what's Banigou going to look like against one of the better left tackles and Taylor Decker and Quitty pay against Penny Sewell, who has elite,
Starting point is 00:26:11 elite measurables and things of that nature. But we're, I think we're going to get a good opportunity for our guys like Curtis Brooks and Eric Johnson to get in against, you know, Frank Ragnow and Jonah Jackson. Cause with RJ McIntosh, he Ragnow and Jonah Jackson, because with RJ McIntosh, he got hurt and left on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You don't know if he's going to be back Thursday. That obviously opens the door for those young guys once again, because Chris Williams is still out. Byron Coward's been in and out. So I really want to see those young interior guys as well curtis brooks and and eric johnson um more so in the 11 on 11s but i'll i'll keep tally of the one-on-ones as well just because you can't see how explosive certain guys are in those situations because i mean you're kind of it's almost like you're relying solely on athleticism and power and those more often than not especially when you're a young guy and you're not quite polished yet
Starting point is 00:27:04 right right and you know not quite polished yet. Right, right. And, you know, while we have a second here, this is actually, we actually have a little buffer here at the end of our podcast for the first time. But do we expect the Colts? And I don't know if you know, so maybe I'm just kind of throwing this at you here
Starting point is 00:27:16 unexpectedly, but do we expect the Colts to only bench the starters this weekend? Or do we think it's going to be like also some key contributors? Like a guy like Naeem Hines comes to mind, right? Will Naeem Hines starters this weekend or do we think it's going to be like also some key contributors like a guy like Naeem Hines comes to mind right will Naeem Hines play this weekend or or like Ben Banig Ben Banig will probably play a good bit but like the players who are like key rotational players do we expect them to play this weekend so I don't think that's been specified but like I've I've talked to other people about expectations and what we what we think so Hines that's been specified but like i've i've talked to other people about expectations and
Starting point is 00:27:46 what we what we think so heinz that's a great question because he's fringe obviously but i consider him a starter in his own position so i don't think we'll see naheem um but yeah like nick foals for example it's almost like you'll see him probably like the whole first half and you give Ellinger the third quarter and Cone the fourth. But, yeah, I don't expect all those guys. Bandigoo I would think might play. He'll probably play a good bit. Yeah, he'll probably play a good – like the whole first half,
Starting point is 00:28:19 like what you were just saying. Yeah, because I think we think he's safe on the roster, but he's still another guy that you've got to give snaps to. And it's not going to be the end of the – this sounds terrible. I don't mean it to sound like this. But, like, if he gets injured, it's not a back-breaking injury. Like, it's not Quidipe or Yannick Ngakwe. Like, it's one of your rotational guys.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Ben Benning is a player where he has seen 100 snaps the last two seasons he needs more yeah you want to get him out there in the preseason just to get some run you know so i totally get playing him but yeah no i was just curious like like maybe a guy like zyra franklin is a good example you know to start the year is i'd start ej speed right i'd let him play at least a whole half but but those are two guys who if, if Shaquille Leonard is out to start the season, they're going to be starters, you know, like, so are they going to play this game or miss this game? I don't know. It's probably something better for later in the week that we'll talk about,
Starting point is 00:29:14 but just because we had a few minutes here at the end of this show, I was curious about, but yeah, no, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting. You know, this second preseason game is actually great for nerds like us because we love those bottom of the roster guys. We're going to us because we love those bottom of the roster guys. We're going to see a lot of those bottom of the roster guys this week. Yeah. So this is essentially what used to be the fourth preseason game back in the
Starting point is 00:29:36 day when they had four. That's what Saturday is going to be. And then it's weirdly out of order. The third game will be what the third game was. The second game is now the fourth game it's yeah. Yeah. That'll be interesting to see. We'll still have our eyes glued to the field and in the fourth quarter with five minutes left. But yeah, we're,
Starting point is 00:29:58 we obviously are running out of things here. So that's it for us today, guys. We'll be back tomorrow. Of course, the second the second joint practice. The Colts will have this game coming up on Saturday at Lucas Oil Stadium. And we'll probably have some guests coming in for the rest of the week talking with you guys as well. Yeah, definitely. Make sure you guys are following at JakeArthurNFL on Twitter.com.
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