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Starting point is 00:00:36 an official sports book partner of the NFL and grab your profit boost pack every NFL playoff game day. Hello everyone. My name is Zach Hickshaw, your resident film nerd of horseshoe huddle.com. And I'm joined as always by Jake Arthur, the boots on the ground over at Round Table Sports. We put out the call for questions to you guys on all social platforms, every day or club and everything else. So you guys filled up our mentions with questions on in-house, just regular team questions, stuff on free agency and a little bit of a preview on the NFL draft coming up here in a couple months as well. So that's how we're going to structure today's show. We're going to start off with some of those in-house team questions, though.

Starting point is 00:01:17 And Jake, the first one we get here is from friend of the show, Kenning Kosenko at Vee Jones. Vee v.O7. I hope that's correct there. We've known him long enough. We should probably know this by now. We should probably just ask what it is there. But what's your level of comfort with penciling in Jalen Travis at right tackle heading into 2020? What kind of investment do they need to add competition in depth at that offensive tackle spot?

Starting point is 00:01:39 I think this is a great way to start here. Yeah, I'm comfortable with him being like the leader to be the starter. Like it cannot be handed to him because he's only started what a few games like when, when Braden Smith went down. So I'm fine with him being like the favorite to start, but he has to have competition. I think on the offensive line, unless you're like a first or second round, pick who's like they know what you are and that you obviously are going to be starting sooner rather than later. I almost always want a first year starter to get ample competition. Like you just have

Starting point is 00:02:15 to do it. And it needs to be more than Blake Freeland. Blake Freeland who was trying to come back kind of a little redemption arc last summer. It looked a little better than he had in the two years prior, but then fractured his ankle and then was out for the year. So a guy who you weren't confident in coming off of a serious lower leg injury, you got to have more than that. I would, if they wanted to add, like, probably above, like, a Dan Skipper level, like, experienced third tackle, that would be great. They always need to draft offensive linemen. I believe Chris Ballard has kind of said that as well.

Starting point is 00:02:55 Like, you always have to draft offensive linemen no matter what. That just kind of needs to be a high priority on the board every year. So, yeah, I'm fine with. with Travis being the leader in the clubhouse. Obviously, we've seen what it looks like. And I think it looks pretty good. For a guy who has, honestly, he's bigger than most offensive tackles. Like sometimes they're too big.

Starting point is 00:03:18 But despite his, like, he's enormous, but he's kind of fleet of foot. He's got nimble feet, which is good. A lot of the time, those guys are plotters and their feet just do not get going. He doesn't really have that problem. So I think that's kind of a big advantage for him. he's got some stuff to work out of course which if if he's kind of being told hey you take these steps here's our goals for you this offseason do this and you've got a pretty strong chance to be our new right tackle then I trust that it will be somewhat ready to go going into

Starting point is 00:03:52 the spring yeah I'm fine with him having the inside track but just keep adding in the competition I'm of the mindset that you need to spend one to two draft picks every single draft season on offensive linemen, whether it's inside or outside. So I think that, you know, grabbing another offensive tackle in that early day three, midday three range, maybe getting another veteran in here. Like I don't know what their internal thoughts are on like a Luke Tanuda, for instance. But, you know, getting another veteran type guy in here, I think those can make some sense. But I'm fine with him having the inside track.

Starting point is 00:04:22 He's almost too big and too explosive to fail, in my opinion. There are some leveraging issues. There are some concerns. But I think he's a pretty solid player. Next question we have here from Ben. Our coaching staff changes coming. As far as we know as of right now, it does appear that the D-line coach will be opening up. Charlie Partridge appears to be heading back to the college ranks.

Starting point is 00:04:44 So the Colts will have a vacancy there. Aside from that, though, I'm not too sure. Like, we could see some guys get picked off when some of these new staffs around the league get filled out, you know, and, you know, they grab a Tom Manning for a more enhanced role or, you know, something like that. For instance, I'm not saying it's certainly happening. But as of right now, it appears only D-Line coach. I don't think we're going to see much changes, especially on the defense side of the ball. I don't think we're going to see many more changes aside from that.

Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah, I think you see a lot of two-year deals on coaches coming into the NFL that maybe don't have a ton of NFL experience if it's not a one-year deal. And I think that's probably what it was with Partridge. But yeah, going for a good opportunity at Notre Dame. I don't know of any other ones right now. Chris Ballard did kind of get the opportunity to say if there would be, but, you know, he said as of right now, no. Now, he was asked about specifically coordinators, which I kind of think that's like, hey, is Lou, are you expecting Lou to leave for a head coaching job? But we haven't heard anything different on whether there's going to be any other coordinators going.

Starting point is 00:05:50 But like you said, if any guys are poached for new head coaching opportunities to, like, get a, I can't, a promoted move, basically, like, if you're going from an assistant to like an official position coach, things like that, then I think that's, you know, that's some stuff we could see. Obviously, like the coaching,

Starting point is 00:06:12 I cannot think of words today, but they have like internships, almost, the Colts do. Yeah, the fellowships. They've rolled over some of those coaches year to year. And like Caitlin Humphreys and Isabel Diaz, they really like what those two have offered. So they may be returning yet again in those positions.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then more coaching questions here. Thoughts on Chris Hewitt as a potential Lou Aniromo replacement if he were to land a head coaching job and then just kind of lump this in here. Is there anyone on the radar if Colts, if Lou Aniromo does leave to get a head coaching job? First to start off here, I don't think Lou is going to get a head coaching job. It seemed like his best option was probably the Giants with all the connections he had out there. But with hardball available, I don't think that's.

Starting point is 00:06:58 ultimately going to be in the cards. I would have put it at like a 90% chance of returning if Harbaal weren't out there. Now I put it like a 99% chance of returning. But Chris Hewitt, I think would be an interesting in-house option, probably the only in-house option that I think would really work for the Colts. So they could go that direction. I think there are plenty of guys around the league in terms of like stylistically. What would meet what Shane Steichen wants from a Jim Leonard who works out there with the Denver

Starting point is 00:07:25 Broncos, Durante Jones, with the, with the Vikings, and then even more experienced guys. I could see them trying to poach like a Jim Schwartz, if possible. Or I think it's Donard Wilson, who's with the Tennessee Titans currently. Weaver, Anthony Weaver. Yeah, Anthony Weaver down in Miami. I think that those would be guys that Stuyken would have interest in. If there were an availability, I just don't, and I don't see that availability coming up this offseason.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, and jokes in a point here makes a good point. Lou is not necessarily the top defensive mind out there right now because you've got Spagnolo getting interviews, Brian Flores. You've got guys out there who are already kind of high on the totem pole. And again, when you drop a John Harbaal into the pool, a Mike McDaniel, Kevin Stefansky, you've got some bigger names out there. It's a little less likely at this point that Lou gets a head coaching job.

Starting point is 00:08:25 which beneficial for the Colts, because you keep giving him weapons, let guys grow a second year in his system. And hopefully going into year two, there's really no excuses about, like, well, you gave me this guy who doesn't really fit my system. Hopefully it's just chalk full of guys who he wants for the system going into year two. I would have thought that was a real shame that you didn't get to see out the Lou Aniromo experience going into a second year based on how many injuries they had on defense last year. Yeah, and I also thought he was just phenomenal this year. Like I'm not saying it was like an A plus coaching job because there were certainly some areas you could have been better. But I think this Colts team would have been in a much worse place without Lou Anirumo this past season.

Starting point is 00:09:06 Single-handly kept them alive in a lot of these games with practice squad level corners out there and linebackers who couldn't cover and a defensive line that couldn't get pressure. Like I thought he did some really good things out there. One more coaching question though. D-line coaching targets. This is definitely a Zach question here. because I nerd out on this stuff every all season. I have four names that have connections to the Colt

Starting point is 00:09:32 or connections to people on the Colts. Again, you could go so separate from this, so this might not even transition over. But Charlie Bowlin over with the New York Giants was their interim defensive coordinator this year. Usually worked with outside linebackers, but he overlapped with Loua and Rumo back with the dolphins back in the day. Andre Carter was the pass rush specialist coach for the Raiders this past season.

Starting point is 00:09:53 he overlapped coaching with Luanna Rameau in Miami as well. Darrell Tapp, the commander's defensive line coach, former player in the NFL, him and James Betcher, worked before with the 49ers, so that could be a connection there. And then Tracy Rocker was the defensive line coach for the Tennessee Titans. Him and Shane Stuyken overlapped in Philly, as well as Jim Bob Cooter was there in Philly at the same time. So there are a lot of connections to this staff when you look at Tracy Rocker, and that could be someone where Shane is like, hey, I know Tracy. he worked well with Philly.

Starting point is 00:10:25 Lou, let's bring him on, but what do you think? So I could see those things happening there. Outside of that, though, your guess is good as mine when it comes to D-Line coaches. We've seen the Colts go to the college level a couple of times. Lou's guy that he had in Cincinnati for a couple years just got the Arkansas defensive line coach job. So maybe he could bring that guy up here as well. I don't know. There's a lot of options, but yeah, D-line coach is probably not the easiest thing to nail down when it comes to projecting it.

Starting point is 00:10:53 now because you and i have kind of talked off air before like the colts have continuously gotten guys from the college ranks yeah so it's like i don't i don't know it's on an NFL d line coaches right now because when it comes to the colts they're getting them from you know partridge was from pit i think and then they had mike fair who was like illinois or syracuse one of the one of the navy and orange teams and then brian baker was from the university of alabama so yeah the colts just i i don't know if that's a Chris Ballard thing or what, but they continuously get these D-line coaches from the college ranks. So it's like, if I, if I am introduced to a D-line coach from the NFL, that would be the first time for me. Yeah, yeah. Coming up though, guys, we're going to transition and talk a little

Starting point is 00:11:34 bit about free agency, some roster move stuff. You guys had plenty of questions on that here when we made the call out on socials today for these questions. What if sports were traded like markets? Now you can put your sports IQ to work in real time with Robin Hood prediction markets. It's not you against the house. It's you participating in a live market. You can buy or sell your positions live all game long. Use your sports knowledge in the moments that matter. Robin Hood prediction markets changes the game. It's people moving the action.

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Starting point is 00:13:25 Zach, I'll let you have the floor. First one here. Sweet Lou 760 asked for both of our individually top five realistic free agent targets on the defensive side of the ball this year. You know, it's funny. We both approach this question in typical Zach and Jake fashion, where you went for some of the bigger name guys that you have been like hiding over since they were draft prospects.

Starting point is 00:13:48 Well, now they're realistic now. I didn't used to think so, but now the Colts spend money. Right, that's true. And now I'm going after the smaller name guys that I just enjoy because I just like the smaller name guys. So if you guys don't like my five, Jake has got you cover for some of the bigger names here coming up in the second. But the five that I really like, and I do have one big name on here, but Arnold Ebikidi from the Atlanta Falcons, pass rusher. I think that would be one of the bigger names I'd go after.

Starting point is 00:14:15 I think he's only 26, 27 years old. Former top 50 draft pick was very productive this year. But because Atlanta just drafted two pass rushers, I think he could be on the outs from that organization. I think that would be a fantastic signing for the Colts just to get faster, get younger, get more athletic. I think Ibekeety would be a really fun addition. But then kind of my buy-low options are just my more bottom of the roster guys

Starting point is 00:14:39 to fill out competition. I like taking a swing at linebacker with like a Nacobi Dean or Christian Harris two guys who never really got their full run in their location, Dean with the Philadelphia Eagles, Christian Harris, the former Alabama linebacker down with the Houston Texans. But both are athletic, both are very young. I think Harris is only 24 still. Dean is still like 27. And Dean was obviously once a highly touted prospect as well.

Starting point is 00:15:03 So taking a shot with one of those guys at safety, Dane Belton from the New York Giants was one of the best tacklers in football last year. Only four missed tackles all season with the Giants. to add some offensive tackle depth. I like my boy, Vetti Lowe from the New England Patriots. They traded like a day three pick for him back a couple years ago. He fell out of the rotation, but still a pretty solid swing tackle in this league. And then the one I really want is nose tackle Roy Lopez.

Starting point is 00:15:29 He's not the tallest guy. If he were a little bit taller, he'd be getting paid a lot more than what he is. He's kind of got that Puna Ford aspect about him. But like six foot, big, physical, impactful run defender. I just want more nose tackles and more defensive. of tackles in here. Let Neville Gallimore and Aditomboa and DeForest Buckner be your three techs. Get me a Roy Lopez that can be your backup one tech, your backup nose tackle and really help

Starting point is 00:15:52 this run defense a little bit more. But those are my smaller end names here. Jake, who are some of your bigger name guys that you're looking at in free agency at this very early juncture of the offseason? Yeah, I like that. And it was pretty on brand for you, especially the Roy Lopez one. You got to have that. But no, so some of these guys are, I would consider them, some of the,

Starting point is 00:16:12 of them still draft crashes that have actually panned out in the NFL. Some of them just are guys who will see if they come back. They should be priorities for their team, but like you said, it's very early and we don't quite know yet. So we know the Colts want to get younger and faster on defense. So keeping that in mind. Jamel Dean from the Buccaneers, he's been steadily getting better and better all the time and it peaked with his best season yet this year. He is, you know, I think a lot is in flux. there in Tampa. Like they had their first so-so season and they decided to just throw it all the hell for some reason this offseason. So you don't know what players are going to be back,

Starting point is 00:16:52 like what they're going to prioritize. But Jamel Dean, a very fast guy, had a really good coverage grades and locked a bunch of guys down forced. Pretty crappy quarterback passer rating against him. So a good season for Jamel Dean coming off. Devin Lloyd, all Colts fans should be familiar with him, the Jacksonville Jaguars linebacker. I think you had like five picks this year. If you're looking for a linebacker that excels in coverage, this is your guy. Like it's been a while since the Colts have had linebackers.

Starting point is 00:17:23 They gobs of interceptions. Devin Lloyd's that dude. I'm going to say this. Devin Lloyd somehow hits the free agent market. One, we all go to Jacksonville and say thank you. But then we throw every bit of cash that we have at him. He would be one of the top five free agents on the market. This office is to be hits.

Starting point is 00:17:39 I don't anticipate. him touching the market, even sniffing the market, but he's an ascending player. He's such a good player. And if Jacksonville's stupid enough to let him go, him signing with anybody would be a fantastic thing for the Colts. That's not the Jackwires. Yeah. This one is a deep cut. This one is all for me. So safety, Eloy Gilman from the Ravens. Notre Dame guy, right? Yes. Yeah. If Nick Cross is not resigned by the Colts. So Gilman was traded for Addafi Away from Chargers to Ravens earlier this year. Both players panned out pretty well, two good players already going into the trade and coming out of it. Gilman really solid.

Starting point is 00:18:18 He's better in coverage than Nick Cross. Cross is probably a better, more devastating box defender in terms of like just hard hits, just a thumper. Gilman's nothing to sniff at there, though. Like he's a good tackler. He's going to clean up a lot of that stuff that's in front of him, just like Cross, but a little better in coverage. moving on to Chiefs Corner Jalen Watson. Again, if you watch that Colts Chiefs game, you know, all about Jalen Watson. He was a thorn in their side in that game.

Starting point is 00:18:47 He's a big guy, not blistering speed, like not as fast as Jamel Dean, but he's still sub four or five. And again, he's like six to around that 200 pound mark coming off a career year where the Chiefs were patient with him, worked up to this final year of his rookie deal. And, you know, it bloomed perfectly. for him into a career year. My last one, Jalen Phillips, who got traded from the dolphins to the Eagles. That was a rental.

Starting point is 00:19:14 They hadn't locked him up yet. I'm sure there's probably mutual interest in him returning. But until that happens, you know, again, the Colts need to get more explosive on the edges. If you compare Latu and Phillips, that would be nice. I don't hate the Trey Hendrickson of it all, but that ship has almost sailed for me at the price that he may, that he may require. because he was out like half the year with that, like hip or back injury, whatever it was. And if his price doesn't drop dramatically, then wipe him off the board for me. And hey, Jalen Phillips, great Chris Ballard fit.

Starting point is 00:19:49 Multiple leg injuries in this career has missed a lot of games. Very much Chris Ballard type of guy. Yeah, very much a Chris Ballard guy. One more that I wanted to get to really quick from Owen Stevens here, asking in more or less words, he said, assuming Traveris Ward retires his off season, and realistically what can we do at Corner with the limited resources. Just to touch on this real quick, I think going into next season with Sauce Gardner and Justin Wally as your two starters,

Starting point is 00:20:15 it's fine. Perfectly fine, perfectly solid. It's just about building up that depth behind them. The Colts, I think, by the end of all this, are going to have around seven, eight, maybe nine draft picks when they make some trades and get their comp picks in here. Certainly add some more players that just fit what Lou Anram was looking for in the draft. And then making sure that you sign, again,

Starting point is 00:20:35 just the one-year corner guys that can actually play some football for you, like the Christine Fulton-type signings out there, I think those would solidify this cornerback room. So it might not be as great as what we thought it was going to be when they made the trade for Sauce Gardner, having a Mooney Ward, but I still fully believe in Justin Wally. I think he's going to be a good player for the Colts. And then building up that depth behind those,

Starting point is 00:20:57 just guys that Lou Ann Rumo trusts the play that aren't just Jonathan Edwards, you know, besides Jonathan Edwards, maybe teach Jonathan Edwards to find the football in the air and we'll be good when it comes to that one as well. But coming up, guys, we're going to talk a little bit about the draft. We've got some draft questions. And while Jake and I aren't fully immersed in our draft coverage yet, we do have a couple players to talk about in this final segment.

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Starting point is 00:23:41 RocketMoney.com slash locked on. All right, Locked on Colts everydayers, we are back with your many, many questions that you had for us. A little bit light compared to most of our Q&As, but it's still fine. It's fine, guys. We still found a waste of fill time in this show here. But one I really like here, while we're pivoting to more like draft questions, one is looking back at last year's draft, the pick all along was always Tyler Warren.

Starting point is 00:24:08 We all knew it was Tyler Warren. We tried to speculate these other picks throughout the draft season, but Jake and I still couldn't avoid the Tyler Warren of it all. But referring back to this draft now, seeing how bad the Colts wore on defense and how the offense was great, could they have gone defense early instead of Tyler Warren? And that had been better for this Colts team this past year. I think it's an interesting question.

Starting point is 00:24:31 I would say before I throw it to you, Jake, that like they still would have needed a tight-down. end. So maybe you take a Gadsden later who was a really good pass catching tight end. Maybe, I mean, Mason Taylor and such a putrid team with the Jets last year was still pretty good. Maybe you get him in like a round two. So they would have still needed a tight end at some point. But let's say they took one of our guys like Jihad Campbell in round one. You know, I know he went a little bit later than that, but take it like a Jihad Campbell, would that have made this team better? I think it's an interesting thing to look at.

Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, I wouldn't change what they did. Like Tyler Warren was. very, very necessary. And, like, I know he wasn't necessarily the same guy down the stretch that we saw earlier in the year. But, I mean, he's, he's a rookie. Like, he's, it's, it's just interesting because he sent a lot of, like, rookie records and was, like, one of the most prolific rookie tight ends that there's been an NFL history at a position that takes a long time to acclimate.

Starting point is 00:25:30 And the fact that we already set such a high standard for him that we started to think he wasn't performing well is pretty good for him considering he's going to be going into year two being able to prepare to be an NFL player and not a draft prospect. So I have zero qualms with Warren. And I don't think this is as much of a Warren question as it is getting something for the defense that wound up, you know, lacking a lot. I don't. Like I always loved the fallback option of like a Carson Schwessinger. If you didn't get Tyler in the first round but like jihad campbell would have been nice but like jihad campbell carson swessinger demetrius knight who wound up having a terrible year with with Cincinnati i'm not going to act like

Starting point is 00:26:16 i didn't i thought you were about to defend him yeah i thought you were about to defend him no i loved demetrius knight and i think the colts actually did like him as well and he was on their board in the second round um but yeah like i would have been fine with that otherwise like the linebacker stuff really kind of dropped off So, yeah, I wouldn't change the pick. I would have loved for Schwessinger to be more of an option for them in round two. That would have been the dream. Can you imagine Warren and Schwessinger is their first two picks?

Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, but you would have had two guys in the top five of the rookie of the year voting. It would have been awesome. But, yeah, I think if we're looking at this retrospectively, we're looking at the JT2 and the Lowell pick in round two and potentially changing that, more so than Warren. Warren was awesome for the Colts, and I wouldn't change that there. But our next question here is a question that, Every single podcast is probably getting after the way he's played,

Starting point is 00:27:09 or the way he played, I guess, because now his season is over in the college football playoff. But would it be a good idea to take Trinidad Chambliss in round two if he's there? I will say this about Trinidad Chamblis. I have no clue what his draft profile, his prospects are right now. If you tell me just on how he played this year, I would say probably a first round pick, right? Like this is a bad quarterback class in terms of finding starters.

Starting point is 00:27:31 There's only two guys in Mendoza and more that are probably going to be those top end guys in round one. So after that, Chambliss could fall in there. But what gives me pause is he's barely six foot, if that. Like, I know college is kind of lie about that stuff.

Starting point is 00:27:46 So we don't know if he's even six foot. NFL teams are kind of weird about that, even with Bryce Young going first overall, and that's still not looking great for the Panthers, even though they're in the playoffs. And he's fighting so hard to go back to college. It makes me think that his representation has been saying that, like,

Starting point is 00:28:01 you're not going to go super high. So I have no, he could be a first round guy, second round guy, but it wouldn't shock me if he was a day three guy either, like a Shardar Sanders, like middle of day three. All that to say, I do think the Colts would be interested in Chambliss. I know that Shane Steichen and this Colt staff had studied a lot of Ole Miss offense when they first got Anthony Richardson and when Minchu was here. So those first couple years, they got really into that Ole Miss offense. And I think they liked Dart a lot last year.

Starting point is 00:28:29 And I think they like Chambliss as well. Would they take him in round two or three, though, when they like Jones as much as they do, probably not. But I think it gets interesting if he's there like in round five. I think he could be in play. But again, I have no clue what his draft status is or draft anything is right now because there's so many variables with him. Yeah, it's kind of what we said about Dart last year. We're like, he could go in the first or he might go to like the fourth.

Starting point is 00:28:55 That seems like the exact same thing here. I need to hold pause until I have fully studied a quarterback until I can declare a machine stuyken quarterback because I feel very kind. comfortable now with what Shane likes, and it takes a lot of research into draft guys for me to know. But I do love the name. Trinidad, Trinidad Chambers. You can call him Trinidadi, like his coach called in. Reminds me a Trinidad James and the song Allgold Everything.

Starting point is 00:29:21 So on vibes alone, I would be into it. Yes, Trinidady, Chamblis. That would be fantastic, 100%. We had another question about Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech as well, just to put it out. there. I think Rodriguez would be fantastic for the Colts if they got him in round two or three. Again, I don't know where these guys are going yet because I haven't really fully delved into this stuff, but I think he's a very good prospect. I mean, won every single award you could in college football this past year as a linebacker, so really good player there. And then one more

Starting point is 00:29:53 question for both of us, Jake, here. Do you think the Colts will draft a receiver pretty early in this draft if they do let Pittman go, whether cutting or trading Pittman? Do you think that they would target a receiver early. I think this is going to be such a defensive offseason. I don't know if they would. But I could see one maybe in like round three to four-ish range. I would struggle to see what the second round pick. But like that three to four range and then have that player and Doolin kind of be your

Starting point is 00:30:23 rotational guys on the outside and a bigger role for downs. Pierce being Pierce if he's back. I think that would be more of the play if they moved on from Pittman this off-season. but what do you think there? Yeah, I think so again, it's all about Pittman and if he goes, if they get someone,

Starting point is 00:30:42 I think it would be more of an explosive guy rather than like a chain mover type, not that there's anything wrong with that, but you, you want to have the explosive element at all times. If there was like a Jalen Hyatt type or like, I know Ryan Flournoy didn't wind up going very high,

Starting point is 00:30:59 but like Ryan Flournoy is like an archetype I can see being Isaac Taislaw. Like, if there was a type like that, that's what I'm saying. Like an outside explosive guy who, honestly, that's kind of Alec Pierce-ish, to be honest with you, like early Alec Pierce. But they may want someone with a bit more of a route tree. But with their specialty being more of like the downfield prowess than the dirty work. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:31:29 I actually think, yes, I think Stuyken wants more explosive. guys, but I think because they would have Pierce back in this scenario, I'm not saying they would want a one-to-one pit in, but I think they would want a guy who can probably win over the middle a little bit more consistent, maybe a better route runner. I don't think they would need the explosive element in this next guy. Does the presence of Tyler Warren and Josh Downs change that for you at all? It just depends because like you might be looking for a guy that can win outside the numbers in the intermediate range and stuff. So maybe because you have Downs and Warren who can win short and you know Pierce is going to win on the vertical plane

Starting point is 00:32:04 because he's just so good. This guy would be more of can he run comebacks, can he run deep curls, can he come back to the football and make those tough contested catch? Like think of like what was the name, Trey Harris last year with the year. Yeah, Ole Miss receiver who went to the Chargers. I could see like a Trey Harris type guy.

Starting point is 00:32:22 Okay. And athletic, explosive, good player, but not really like your Pierce level player. I think Taislaw would be a good, interesting one type type of player as well, though. like vertical jump ball good hands type guy can win in the red zone it just depends on what they're looking for because they might view duelin as a guy who can come in and do those couple things like the things i just mentioned physical player good hands can block and can win over the middle

Starting point is 00:32:46 dueling kind of showed all those things in his limited time on offense this year as well so a lot of interesting aspects of this for the colts but or or they might go for an ad mitchell type if only they had an ad mitchell type i wonder where you could go I got to get one of those. That's all we have for today, guys. We want to thank you for asking all your questions to everyone on Twitter, everyone on Everydayer Club, YouTube. We really appreciate all the questions.

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