Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: Quarterbacks Dominate Conversation with Shane Steichen, Chris Ballard

Starting point is 00:00:00 We are reading the tea leaves today after Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard spoke with the media at the NFL Combine. Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast, Carving Your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. This is your daily podcast, Carving Your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. I am Jake Arthur, and the guy you can't see but is sitting next to me is Zach Hicks, and you know the two of us from horseshoehuddle.com. We are coming to you again from the NFL Combine today. We're doing a little just audio only.

Starting point is 00:01:01 We're still putting this on YouTube, but we've thrown some curveballs today after the media sessions in terms of where we're going to record. Apparently, our favorite spot is now a hotspot. So we're just doing what we can here. If you hear any background noise, just forget about it. We are at the combine. So yeah, today, Chris Ballard spoke to the media. Shane Steichen spoke to the media today for the first time since he got the job. So, you know, he's been here a few weeks now getting settled, settled in a little bit. And you could definitely tell his vibe was a little different from, from the first time we spoke to him. So Zach, this was the first time that you've really got to be at one of these things live and in person with Steichen or Ballard.

Starting point is 00:01:46 What was the vibe check for you? What did you think? Yeah, no, it was pretty cool. You know, I'm not really used to these media moshes and stuff. I know you guys are. So I'm in there shaking and sweating and trying to play it cool. And maybe that's because of the layers I had on and stuff. I thought it was going to be a colder day.

Starting point is 00:02:02 It was hot. It was a little hot. You know, you get a bunch of sweaty dudes around each other and like one or two girls mixed in and stuff like that. We're all just soaked in sweat trying to get our, our two seconds of fame in here with the GMs and head coaches. But no, it was cool. You know, it was cool to be a part of it. And, and I, I know that this is not typically the life for me. I'm more of the analyst type, but no, it was cool. I mean, just, just being able to see Shane Steichen and Chris Bowden and read their body language and stuff. I mean, who are we starting with here? We're starting with Shane Steichen. Yeah, let's start with Shane Steichen.

Starting point is 00:02:32 So Shane Steichen is a football dork. You could tell just from looking at the dude, that is a football dork. And I'm like, thank you. We need more football dorks out here. You know, more people that, that I can look at and be like, that's me. That's me, a football dorks out here you know more people that that i can look at and be like that's me that's me a football door my people my people and yeah no he's very very methodical with his answers very very intellectual intellectual just comes off like a nerd with it you know which which i love man so i don't know if that's the vibe you get because you've dealt with frank reich and a little bit of jeff saturday and stuff like. So I don't know what your vibe is with, with Shane Steichen. But when I look at him, I think this is just a, a dorky dude who loves football and that's a great thing.

Starting point is 00:03:11 I'm not trying to say a bad thing about him. I know there's some negative connotations about that word, but no, I absolutely loved it. And for someone like me, who is a football nerd as well, it was, it was great just hearing from a guy like that, even if he was kind of hiding some of his answers. Yeah, no, he's, he's going to learn quickly about what you can and can't say as,

Starting point is 00:03:29 as the head coach. You're definitely right. He's, he's different from Frank. We actually, we watched Frank speak before Shane Steigen and before Chris Ballard, because of course we want to see what the old, the old head coach has to say. But no, I definitely, Shane was definitely more relaxed now than he was at his introductory press conference which understandably right uh you know biggest day of your life to to date uh but no you can tell the guy is just finally settled in he's got a lot of the big

Starting point is 00:03:56 stuff off his plate like he's just down to the nitty-gritty of like he wants to come here and study these players and talk to these players and just do football stuff. Right. So he he seems like he's ready for that to weigh off his shoulders. I think he's honestly I think he's going to wind up being kind of revealing. I think we'll get good answers from him during media sessions and stuff. Maybe not to the level of like Nick Sirianni, who was always Lucy goose and like always brought a little humor to it. But no, I think we're going to have a good time with Shane Steichen talking to him as the head coach most days during, during the, the season.

Starting point is 00:04:34 He seems like he's already getting the hang of it. He seems a lot more comfortable and just, he's going to definitely be the type of guy you're going to, you're going to get, if you want football answers from him, you're going to get them. If I want to get some of the the football politics and stuff i don't know that he's gonna divulge too much on that yeah yeah which is fine you know for someone like me again i i take the quotes for the football knowledge and stuff i don't really care whatsoever about the football politics and stuff so this is great for me i don't know about you guys and your beat writers and

Starting point is 00:05:01 stuff like that but you know this stuff is amazing for me me. So I'm super happy to have a coach like this. But let's get to the real topic here. Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen were walking the same line when it came to quarterback stuff. And we'll address it with Chris Ballard here. But I'm sure you guys will see a bunch of articles from beat guys or guys who were just listening in being like, oh, Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen say size doesn't matter for a quarterback.

Starting point is 00:05:24 Or, oh, we've had small quarterbacks succeed in this league and it you know it matters that they're outliers don't get me wrong i'm not saying anything that was said today from shane steichen was anti-bryce young but for every pro bryce young thing that was said there was a pro anthony richardson thing said there was a pro will levis thing said there was a pro cj stroud yes b yes Bryce Young was the quarterback on everybody's mind but he's the Heisman winner you know from from two years ago so he's the guy that everyone was asking about like there was this one guy going around every podium being like what makes Bryce Young so awesome and that was what coaches were going with uh but I I think the biggest takeaway was Bryce Young's not off the table which I didn't expect them to come out and say,

Starting point is 00:06:05 Bryce Young is going to be off the table. They weren't going to come out and say, are we cut off at 6-1 and that's it? They weren't going to say that. Even if they do, they weren't going to say that. But everything Shane Steichen said was more or less about a numerous amount of guys. The way that I saw it, I didn't take away Bryce Young's QB1.

Starting point is 00:06:23 I took it as there's still room for all four of these guys to be that top guy for Indy. Yeah, as Ballard said, the cement isn't dry until draft day, so they're going to work through all this stuff. And since it's going to be a quarterback that they pick first, God, the amount of work they're going to do, it really won't stop until draft day. Who knows when they have that final decision

Starting point is 00:06:44 and they're board- do, it really won't stop until draft day. Like who knows when they have that final decision or, you know, they're, they're board ranked a particular way. But what did you think about what Steichen spoke about with quarterback specifically? Because he did get into some football stuff and the football side of it. Just we'll get into some of that, but some things he did confirm. He basically confirmed the reports that Jim Bob Cooter is coming. Oh, yeah. And Cam Turner and Reggie Wayne was returning.

Starting point is 00:07:08 He did confirm all that just to get that out of the way, which was good because he wasn't asked to confirm it. He was asked about what he thought about those guys, and he went along with it. So that's all but confirmed. So, yeah, what did you think about, like, the football aspect of things that he said, whether it was quarterbacks or anything else?

Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, you know, it was mostly quarterback mostly quarterback you know like you couldn't get away from the quarterback question and ballard addressed it saying that he was definitely prepared for it steichen was definitely prepared for it um but again you know there were moments where you were like oh that's bryce young or that's cj stroud because the first thing he said multiple times too when asked about traits was accuracy yeah Yeah. Accuracy is the thing. Natural accuracy. Natural accuracy. But then later he was asked, can you improve accuracy? And he said, yeah, with mechanics and with the right coaching,

Starting point is 00:07:52 you can improve accuracy. So, again, kind of that misleading. But the biggest thing that I took away from his quarterback talk, and it's a thing we hear from all coaches, and the thing that we will not be able to see, this is what only coaches and GMs are going to be able to see. see we have no way of seeing this is he mentioned the intangibles he mentioned jalen hertz was a guy who was in the film room from 6 a.m to 9 30 p.m every single day and a guy who had that growth mindset which i love the growth mindset because i'm a big carol dweck fan

Starting point is 00:08:20 i believe carol dweck's the one who wrote the mindset book uh which i have like two copies of. I love the mindset book and that's where growth mindset comes from. So if he's quoting that great job, Shane, but yeah, no, he mentioned the mindset these quarterbacks had to have. And that's something that we're not going to be able to see. So we can speculate all we want saying, Oh, Bryce young did all this. And he has to have that mindset. We don't know how they're going to view that mindset. Or, you know how they're going to view that mindset or, you know, we could say on paper, Bryce Young is a growth mindset guy, but when they talk to him, they don't come away with that, you know, so that points away from Bryce Young. So again, a whole lot of nothing, but in a great way, you know, the mindset is the most important thing. And Steigen seems to have that down. So I'm pretty happy about that.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, absolutely. He, he did divulge a lot on that, and I think that'll be the X factor. We talked about this, I think, last week or a week or two ago, but that'll be an X factor that we cannot find out during the process. It's something that will be behind closed doors is how do they feel about these guys in their preparation, in their desire as football players, because everyone's talked about it. You know, Steichenhammer's at home and Ballard is talked about. The player doesn't have to be Peyton Manning,

Starting point is 00:09:33 but they have to have that Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady mindset. That's the type of person they want leading the team. Right, and it's not even those guys. It's the Josh Allen mindset where Josh Allen knew early on sucked like and and i'm saying this in really blunt words he knew early on he had a lot of things to improve on and he had that growth mindset to keep getting better he didn't he didn't sulk sulk and dwell on it he didn't say like what was he didn't point fingers to other people he said i need to improve and he worked on his mechanics he worked on his mind he worked on certain things to make himself a better quarterback jalen hirsch did the same

Starting point is 00:10:08 thing pat mahomes did the same thing pat mahomes came in the league saying that i don't know how to read the defense exactly and he was he was saying that in terms of the level of tom brady he wanted to be able to read a defense like tom brady so he viewed himself as someone who needs to get there that's that growth mindset so that's what Steichen was talking about. And, and personally for me, you know, if you see one or two of these guys that has that kind of mindset, you need to take them because those are the guys that hit you see that you can talk arm strength, you can talk accuracy, you can talk yada, yada, yada, but the guys who hit have that growth mindset. And that's exactly what they're talking about. So yeah, I'm completely on board with that thinking. I don't care if you're the most tracy quarterback ever or the least tracy

Starting point is 00:10:48 quarterback if you have that mindset to continually get better and to not point fingers and to handle all the stuff that's going on those are the guys that hit so yeah i'm shane steigen was 100 with all of that yeah absolutely and that's that's just something it's a it's a blessing and a curse for us in the predictions game because there's four really talented quarterbacks who all, as players, have an argument to be the top guy. And they all seem to have good heads on their shoulders. So we're just going to keep playing the guessing game this whole time. But before we move on to kind of talk about what Chris Ballard had to say

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Starting point is 00:12:17 but he's, he's on his heels a lot lately. He's on the defensive. He knows what's coming a lot of the time. I don't see the way I still, I took it was, I didn't see him on the defensive. knows what's coming a lot of the time i don't so the way i still i took it was i didn't see him on the defensive i saw him as sassy like he he was a sassy queen out there like he was like he he was not to be trifled with but it wasn't really defensive like he was it was weird he was so like direct while giving us nothing yeah it was amazing because like he had a question for instance about trading up you know i think nate atkins asked it so like direct while giving us nothing. Yeah. It was amazing.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Cause like he had a question for instance, about trading up, you know, I think Nate Atkins asked it. Great question. Really good question about doing whatever it takes to get to your quarterback. Whether that is that mean training up? That's kind of what Nate was hinting at.

Starting point is 00:12:56 And Chris was like, look, it has to be for the right guy. It has to be for a guy that we value with those picks. You know, it can't just be trade up for the sake of trading up has to be a guy where we know he's going to be our quarterback for 15 years and be a stud and he's worth giving up multiple picks because chris ballard likes those picks yeah he was very direct about it but he also didn't say we're not trading up right he just said it that

Starting point is 00:13:20 that has to be the conditions right yeah right so he was. So he was, I mean, he was sassy. I mean, if you guys look up the definition of the word sassy in the dictionary, you'll see Chris Ballard, the way that his hips were swiveling up there. You could tell, like, he was wagging his finger at us, it felt like. It was impressive. But, yeah, no, at the end of the day, he was super direct. He looked us all in the face and told us straight. But also he gave us nothing, absolutely nothing, which I love. I mean, again, this is the game that media people play with this stuff,

Starting point is 00:13:49 and it was my first time seeing it and seeing Chris in action as, you know, that sassy queen that he was. I loved it. It was funny. Yeah, no, for sure. He likes to take what he thinks the media narratives are and answer them preemptively. You know,

Starting point is 00:14:05 he, he talked about the Colts do have some talent. He really mentioned, you know, guys like Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, Braden Smith. He still thinks Quentin Nelson,

Starting point is 00:14:16 like those guys are building blocks for them offensively. Yep. So I will say one thing I love to hear because when he makes a big mistake in an offseason and it comes to bite him in the sensor bleep button in the ASS during the season, he does own up to it typically, and he knows the offensive line was not good enough. He knows they got better, but they had to find the right combinations to get there. The combination that they had from the first day of OTAs through the first few weeks of the season was not the right one.

Starting point is 00:14:51 And they put all their eggs in that basket initially. They do kind of lean on the fact like, hey, we drafted Bernard Ryman, but yeah, it was the third round. That doesn't mean you were going to draft. If that's what you set out to do, you would have done it earlier. I'm not going to say you lucked into that, but like that isn't a great thing to say was your plan. So

Starting point is 00:15:10 I don't think they're going to let the offensive line be an issue. They know they have a rookie quarterback coming in. They have an offensive-minded head coach. They want those guys to be able to click on all cylinders or at least give them the tools to do so. And there's nothing better you can do for that than to make sure that offensive line is as good as you can get it.

Starting point is 00:15:32 Are you saying that we're going to pay for a right guard, Jake? Is that what you're saying? Oh, we're going to say at the very least, there's going to be insurance and competition for every spot on that offensive line. OK, we're going to see a bunch of one year, 1.127 million dollar deals going out there. That's the special. But no, Jake, I know you're trying to delay the inevitable. We're talking quarterback on this episode.

Starting point is 00:15:56 It's every episode is quarterback. And that's what almost every question that Chris Ballard got was. And he was asked about him being a size person, about how size does matter to Chris Ballard when it comes to – like we know for a fact size matters at wide receiver, cornerback, defensive end, even offensive tackle, except for the arm length. That doesn't matter, I guess. But outside of that, we know size matters for him at positions. He has minimum requirements.

Starting point is 00:16:21 And does that apply to quarterback? And he said there are exceptions to every rule, but he's not going to go up there and say he doesn't have size requirements right and let me remind you guys and you know hint hint wink wink we're obviously we're obviously still talking about one quarterback here with all of this uh he did say that there are exceptions but we got to think with chris ballard he's never taken those exceptions high. Right. Never. He never. He has always said that he does have those certain thresholds and everything. And I've even been around him in an instance where he's given specific examples of things he's done in the past. Yep. But to break those thresholds and stuff, you have to have a special trait.

Starting point is 00:16:59 And quarterback is something that they're going to be very reliant on a million special traits for that position. So if they if they have a guy who they think checks all their boxes in a big way, then maybe size won't matter for him. And, you know, Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard both talked about, especially Steichen in both sessions that he did, both with the local guys and up on the podium, I felt gave examples of how they can win. You know, it's kind of how the quarterback sees the field. He gave an example of Drew Brees and he had an elite ability to see the creases in the middle of the field and move through the pocket to get through those windows. And if that's something they feel that Bryce Young can do, then,

Starting point is 00:17:41 you know, that's something they can do to circumnavigate some of the size concerns yeah yeah and again at the end of the day i i don't think i didn't come out of either one of their conversations thinking one quarterback or or not again for every pro bryce young thing there was there was a negative bryce young thing for every pro anthony richardson thing there was even chris ballard said that having a bridge quarterback for a whole year could be on the table he said everything's on the table everything is on the table. He said that. Everything's on the table. Everything is on the table. He did say that, and he definitely did not deny it.

Starting point is 00:18:08 And he said if a guy's special enough but he needs a year, like, that's fine. They'll do whatever because they're looking to the future. That's actually a plug for an article that Zach wrote on Wednesday about Marcus Mariota being an ideal potential bridge or backup for a rookie. But I digress. Continue. Yes, yes. But, no, at the end of the day, a lot of it was the smokescreen stuff, the stuff, not noncommittal,

Starting point is 00:18:28 but he was direct. He was very honest with his answers. He just wasn't super open. Yeah. His answers. That was the biggest thing. But yeah, no, again, for all of you guys listening, being like, I know it was Bryce Young. I know CJ Stroud. I know it was Will, Will Levis or Anthony Richardson. I personally did not come away. I mean, again, you can correct me if I'm wrong because you are better at reading the body language and reading the, but like for me,

Starting point is 00:18:51 it felt like nothing's off the table, but nothing's on the table yet. And one thing that was really particular with me was when he was being asked about going up to number one, he said, as of right now, he doesn't think that there is a guy that's that special yet but they still have a lot of room to go yeah he did say that right now he doesn't see that special guy yet yeah there's an enormous amount of work to be done in these

Starting point is 00:19:15 next two months right right but he did particularly say that so you know as of right now i would lean towards them not trading that pickup but that's me reading the tea leaves on something I typically don't do. He could have that one guy already in mind, so we don't really know right now. But no, he did definitely confront the trade rumor stuff a lot. Yeah. He went after that. Yeah, he definitely did. He's willing to wheel and deal because he also defended himself.

Starting point is 00:19:44 He always goes back to the DeForest Buckner thing. They traded 13th pick for him. And I mean, that's not – he kind of goes to that a lot, but it's just not really the same. You're trading for an established all-pro player that's different than taking a swing at a rookie who you're projecting their future. You don't know what they are yet. So, you know, that part of it's interesting.

Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm trying to think if there's any other bells here on for me, because, okay, so you mentioned, you know, you're not pointing to any one guy. And I still think things are so open-ended as well. But when it comes to Bryce Young with Shane Steichen arriving and hearing both him and Chris Ballard talk a couple times now since, I do get the feeling now. At one point, I didn't think Bryce Young was a realistic option at all. But at this point, while I don't think he may not be the frontrunner, I do now think it's a four-horse race and we literally do not know who is the winner. But I think he's in it.

Starting point is 00:20:45 I think he's absolutely in it. Yeah. I still think it's fascinating because personally for me still, I think Shane Steichen is going to prefer Bryce Young. Yeah. And I, I've maintained that for a bit because I mean, I wrote that big article about Bryce Young being the number one fit for

Starting point is 00:20:58 Shane Steichen. I wrote that for horseshoehuddle.com. And you even asked a question today where you asked how much input is Shane Steichen going to have. And Ballard did say Steichen's going to have a good amount of input. I will say he didn't answer it how I wanted him to. No, no, he was sassy with you. Yeah?

Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, he was sassy. I thought he was going to answer it a different way. Because you know what I mean. Like, when you're evaluating the head coach first and you get an offensive-minded head coach and you know you're probably taking coach, the head coach first, and you get an offensive mind, a head coach, and you know, you're probably taking a quarterback first. You want to give them a certain amount of leeway and say, and who that quarterback will be. And I mean,

Starting point is 00:21:33 he did acknowledge, you know, of course they, they want him to have some say, but he didn't really divulge much into that. Right. Right. But he's been burned by that before.

Starting point is 00:21:41 Right. Right. But to kind of continue with what i was saying with that is you know i think if it were up to shane steichen completely and all by himself it would probably be bryce young this is purely speculation guys this is not anything i took away from the presser whatsoever pure speculation i've had for weeks i think it's gonna be bryce young because he just fits what shane steichen has done with quarterbacks but i think if it were purely up to chris ballard bryce young would be fourth.

Starting point is 00:22:06 Like I do not, I still, especially there was nothing said today that made me think he's going to move Bryce Young up to one or two or even three. Like I still firmly think Bryce Young would be the fourth one for Chris Ballard. So who wins in that fight? Or do they settle on someone in the middle? Or does Chris Ballard say, hey, if you believe you can turn this guy into a stud, I'll take him.

Starting point is 00:22:28 Or does it go the other way? Shane Steichen says, you know what? I want Bryce Young, but I'll take whoever you want. And it goes to Chris Ballard's one. It's going to be the thing that we're fighting about, that they're going to be fighting about internally this entire offseason. They're going to be fighting about this whole week. They're going to be fighting about in the interviews. They're going to be fighting about with the first pick thing when we get those videos.

Starting point is 00:22:46 So, yeah, it's still an open process. And there was nothing today that told me it wasn't. And I still maintain the things that I said a second ago, that Shane Steichen is going to love Bryce Young. Chris Ballard would probably prefer more of his size guys because he likes the size guys. But who wins out? I don't know. Yeah, you and I were, we're talking about this on the drive home yesterday.

Starting point is 00:23:08 The Southeast area scout is going to be very critical in this one. Right. You know, some of these guys normally only have like one or two like really draftable guys that they can pound the table for. And you know, they're, they're obviously can they can develop some, you know, you know, they're obviously can they can develop some, you know, you know, blinder thinking about it. But I don't I don't know if the one scout has Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson and perhaps Will Levis that this one scout has all three. Shoot, that guy is going to be able to shoot it straight with the rest of the scouting department there and give accurate answers. So that's kind of an advantage. Right. But they give like morocco brown will be heavily involved in this i'm sure ed dodds might

Starting point is 00:23:48 personally go to some of these pro days and stuff like that even like it's going to be a very extensive process and shane steichen going back to shane steichen's presser uh i think this is when we were he was talking just to the indie media guys he said if i know anything about how the colts are run and how thorough my interview was, the interviews for these, these quarterbacks are going to be super thorough and we're going to see which ones have that it factor and have those intangibles and who can read film and who is up at 6 AM and in bed at nine 30, only watching film all day. That's what they're going to be able to tell because they're going to be so thorough with this process. So I know the Colts haven't inspired much hope in a lot of you guys, and I'm not saying that they should, but they're going to be thorough with this.

Starting point is 00:24:27 They're going to land on a guy that they think can succeed. And if you trust in Shane Steichen's ability to draw up an offense, I think they're going to be pretty good. So yeah, it's going to be a long process and I don't think we're going to have any clarity until minutes after the fourth pick is in on who the quarterback is. But that's the fun of it. You know, we can speculate and we can write a what if pieces and Chris Ballard joked about that a couple of times about, we have to get our content out. We'll get our content out for sure, Jake, but, but yeah, it's, it's going to be that kind of process. And, and it's, that's part of the fun of all this. Yeah, no, no. I think it was Steichen who said, you know, and this is not, this is not irregular for draft picks, but

Starting point is 00:25:03 you know, they're going to, they're going to shake every tree. They're going to go back to these guys' high school coaches, their trainers, their teammates. They're going to see how they legitimately are as preparers, as competitors. They're going to leave no stone unturned when they're researching these guys. And luckily for them, there are four bona fide guys at the top. They have their work cut out for them. They know what they need to do.

Starting point is 00:25:25 Right. So I would hope by the time April, whatever it is, 27th, I think, by the time that date rolls around, they're confident in their draft board. Because think of it this way. They may want to trade up to number one, but that doesn't mean they can. Like, the Bears are in control of that. Like, they also said, you you know they're prepared if they need to to go to two or three um but they're not necessarily in control of that so they have to

Starting point is 00:25:52 have backup plans and if there's only one of these quarterbacks that they like guys they're not going to take one then well they're they're not going to take one to take one i'm telling you if there's if they only like one of these four guys and he's gone before they get on the clock they're not going to take one to take one. I'm telling you, if there's, if they only like one of these four guys and he's gone before they get on the clock, they're not taking it. They're going to probably trade back. Don't do this to me. We're taking a quarterback.

Starting point is 00:26:13 It's a very real possibility. I'm just saying, no, we're taking a quarterback. We're taking you, you, you bet that they're not taking quarterback. I'll bet they are.

Starting point is 00:26:21 And we'll see who wins. Okay. I don't want to bet that they're not taking one. I'm just saying there's an avenue for that to be a disaster scenario oh yeah yeah before we uh before we let that thought creep into our minds any further i think that's it for us uh we'll be back with you guys tomorrow obviously to keep talking combine quarterbacks draft colts buzz uh We've heard some interesting things here. Probably not going to say anything we don't believe yet.

Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. Just hang with us. We'll, we'll tell you what we're thinking. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Make sure you guys are following us on social media at locked on Colts at Zach Hicks to an at Jake Arthur and F L guys. That's where you got to follow us.

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