Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts Reaction: Lou Anarumo Addresses Media as New Defensive Coordinator

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

New Indianapolis Colts DC Lou Anarumo addressed the media for the first time since being hired, and he laid out his expectations and vision of the defense, as well as his impressions of the current ro...ster. Become a Locked On Colts insider! Ask your burning questions and get prompt answers from someone who's around the team every day! Get special access from the locker room, practice field, and press box! JOIN HERE! Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQLocked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-nfl/ Follow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram! This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks. Go to PrizePicks.com/lockedonnfl and use code all lowercase lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!TalkspaceAs a listener of this podcast, you’ll get $80 off your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com/LOCKEDONNFL and enter promo code SPACE80.LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms Apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelFrom the first whistle to the final drive, FanDuel makes the NFL Playoffs even more exciting! Right now, new customers can bet FIVE DOLLARS and get THREE HUNDRED BUCKS in BONUS BETS – if you win your first bet! Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable free bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Lou Ann Vermo labeled himself as a truth teller today in his opening press conference. Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day.
Starting point is 00:00:38 This episode is brought to you by PrizePix. Go to prizepix.com slash locked on NFL and use code all lowercase locked on NFL to win $50 instantly when you play $5. Hello, everyone. My name is Zach Hickshire, resident film nerd of horseshoehuddle.com. And my partner, Jake Arthur, is, of course, our credentialed crocs on the ground for the site as well. Today, we're talking all about Lou Anarumo's opening press conference for the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts introduced him as the new defensive coordinator today, bright and early at 9 a.m., Jake. And Jake was out there, obviously, as our Crocs on the ground,
Starting point is 00:01:13 showing off those beautiful Crocs that he obviously is wearing to all of those press conferences. But today we're going to talk about what really stood out to us. I know coaches don't say too much in these press conferences, but reading between the lines a little bit and reading into a little bit of what he said, we're going to look into kind of what really stood out to us. So Jake, what was the biggest thing that really popped for you being there in person, listening to Lou Anarumo? Yeah, let's put some words in sweet Lou's mouth, right? No. So right off the bat, so he was asked, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:48 how is he going to put his stamp on the defense? What does it look like for him and everything? Very coach-speaky for a defensive coordinator. He said smart, fast, physical, which I think I've heard every defensive coordinator ever say. But when he went into a little more detail about it what he said I really liked because this is a guy who again is used to facing Joe Burrow every day in practice he had to go against Lamar Jackson twice a year and then you added Derrick Henry on top of that
Starting point is 00:02:18 so he wants to take a lot of the mental stuff off the plate of the players, let them play freely without the burden of constantly having to process just unnecessary things mentally. And to me, that kind of takes them back to the Matt Eberflus days. Eberflus himself maybe eventually rubbed some guys the wrong way, but as far as his system goes, guys did like to play for him because they were able to use their instincts and play freely, you know, click and close, get to the ball quickly, and just play based on instincts and not assignment, essentially.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And to me, it sounds like that's what Anarumo would really like to accomplish for his players is, you give them a game plan uh make them as prepared as possible so they know everything they can about the upcoming opponent and then just let the players go from there and react to what they're saying but also anticipate ahead of time to me it sounds like most of the work and the assignment is going to be in the preparation. I mean, if you're prepared, then there aren't many surprises and you're able to play freely. If you're learning a bunch of crap on the go, like game day, day of, that's going to be a problem. Now, he can make adjustments, but it's all about the game plan for him, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You know, we've seen a lot of instances with the Colts previously where it's the same game plan week after week, no matter who the opponent is for the most part. But with Anarumo, it's very tailored to each week and each opponent. So, again, the details in the week leading up is what are going to help get him to getting these players playing without the restraints of all the mental stuff. I think, especially when you look at young players, when they have to process too much stuff and not just be football players and use their natural abilities, that's what takes some guys so long to adapt to the NFL. So I think if he can just get, especially some of these young guys, like I'm thinking a lot too, in particular, that's one guy, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:36 Jalen Carlisle, young guys who are probably going to play a lot of snaps. If he can get them to where they're just playing football, then their natural ability should take over and they can be really effective players. Yeah. And I think, I think kind of when you hear that, like keep things simple and stuff like that and let the guys play fast, it does remind you a lot of the Maddie Eberflutes and even Gus Bradley to a degree, but the simplicity, the way to get to that simplicity, I think is very different from Lou Anarumo to say a Gus Bradley. In Gus Bradley, the simplicity is in the
Starting point is 00:05:05 scheme. You know, we do this, these couple things really well, we're going to get to our spots. And even if quarterbacks know what we're doing, we're going to be so good in what we're doing, that's hard for them to beat it. You know, that's kind of that philosophy where I think with Anarumo, the simplicity more so comes in. We don't have to think too much on the field because we're so ready for this game plan in this particular matchup against this particular quarterback that when we see, hey, front shoulder's going left against our cover three, we know that he's going to throw this out route here. This is where we need to, like, this is how we can read and react from there. So I think the route to get to the simplicity is a little bit different with Anarumo compared to, say, a Gus Bradley where the simplicity is in the scheme itself.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And you're going to sit in kind of that one coverage all day. With Lou Anarumo, it's more so in the preparation. We get you so ready for these games and certain game plans that it feels simple on the field, if that makes sense. It feels simple in terms of quarterback does this, quarterback shows this, the offense is in 12 personnel doing a play action. We know exactly what kind of bootleg type stuff is coming. That is more so where the simplicity comes with Lou Anarumo compared to past defensive coordinators we had here. One thing that really stood out to me though, and it's kind of along the same line as what you were talking about there, Jake, but it does go towards being multiple and being more flexible is when he really talked about his success against,
Starting point is 00:06:29 you know, the Pat Mahomes is the Josh Allen's, the Lamar Jackson's and heck, even the Joe Burrow every day in practice is you have to be multiple against these good quarterbacks. And we didn't really see it this past year with his defense, because again, we've gone to so much detail about this, like that defense was kind of picked dry over the last couple of seasons with all the We didn't really see it this past year with his defense because, again, we've gone into so much detail about this. Like that defense was kind of picked dry over the last couple of seasons with all the talent departure. But back in his heyday in the 2021-2022 type season, when he had success against good offenses, we saw his defenses be multiple, be unique, diverse, and really pull the rug out on some good quarterbacks. Like I mentioned, Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And he mentioned in his press conference that like even the best quarterbacks, you know, you're not going to fool them all day. But if you sit in the same coverage, snap after snap, they're going to know where to go with that ball and they're going to pick you apart. So you just have to make them, you know, think a little bit after you have to make them, you know, be uncertain at times and make these guys sweat a little bit because they are such a good quarterbacks and I think one thing that really stood out too is that he mentioned being in our conference in the AFC in the AFC we have the gauntlet of quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:07:37 I mean outside of what Jaden Daniels in the NFC like a lot of the best quarterbacks in football are sitting in the AFC right now including a lot of the best quarterbacks in football are sitting in the AFC right now, including the easily the top three quarterbacks in football on the Mar Jackson, Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes. And heck, even Joe Burrow, if you want to say he's the fourth best at the top four quarterbacks in the league right here in the AFC. So if you ever want to have a chance, you have to beat those guys or at least slow them down a little bit. Louie Anarumo has a history of fairly good success against those guys, especially in the playoffs. And I love how we talked about, again, being multiple, having to fool them, having to throw a variety of coverages
Starting point is 00:08:16 at them, because if they are going to see you in the same coverage all game long, these guys are too darn good for that. They're way too good for that. They will make you pay for sitting in the same coverage. So he kind of evolved as a defensive coach into being multiple because of the rise of quarterbacks like these guys in recent seasons. Yeah, I think that's important. And it's also a lesson that I feel he's learned. You know, I talked to Ben Baby earlier in the week, who covered in a room, those entire tenure in Cincinnati. And one thing that really helped lead to the defense's emergence last year, like they were terrible most of the year. And then the last handful of games, they really turned it on was sticking with the zone coverage and then eventually going to man and just, you know, pulling the plug and making
Starting point is 00:09:05 that adjustment. And it seemed to really work. And, you know, the defense was getting home. And of course, Trey Hendrickson was playing out of his mind, but his ability to adapt and just not be as stubborn. Now it's what got them part of what got them in that situation in the first place, but he was willing to make that adjustment and it worked for them. So being able to do that and kind of pulling out the rug from those opposing quarterbacks to where they think they know what you're going to do and then just totally switching it up. But even just throughout a game, like, like you mentioned, like if you're just sitting in your zones, like they're going to know where the zone beaters are and how the tight end is going to manipulate the seams and everything.
Starting point is 00:09:46 But if you change things up quarter to quarter, like it can keep guys on their toes and make them maybe take some more chances that could lead to mistakes. Yeah, the best way I would describe it is and I'm not the biggest baseball fan, so maybe you guys can correct me here. But this is like a pitcher having multiple pitches that they can rely on maybe they're not all like elite perfect pitches but having a good fastball good curveball a good change up a good this like being good at a lot of different pitches rather than being just a fastball pitcher you know Gus Bradley I think in his perfect world is the perfect pass
Starting point is 00:10:21 like fastball pitcher like I'm only going to throw a fastball but it's going to be such a good fastball that you're not going to be able to hit it where with Luann Rumo it's every pitch you don't really know what's coming it's not going to be as good as yeah it's not going to be as good as that fastball at again at their peaks but it's going to be so different each time that that's going to make you think a little bit more lead and lead to more swings and misses so that's kind of how I view this style of defense compared to Luan Arumo's predecessor. And predecessors, if you want to go all the way back to Ibra Flues even. But coming up, guys, we're going to talk about a couple players and positions that really
Starting point is 00:10:58 stand out to Luan Arumo with this Colts defense. He did shout out a couple players by name, which I think is quite interesting. Therapy is a game changer. It can help manage stress, improve sleep, and communicate more effectively. But finding the right therapist and fitting sessions into a busy schedule can be a challenge. But that's where Talkspace comes in. Talkspace, the leading virtual therapy provider, makes getting the help that you need easy, accessible, and affordable. With Talkspace, signing up is simple.
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Starting point is 00:12:39 They don't necessarily have Trey Hendrickson, but they do have a couple of good players there. Yeah, and he was specifically asked a couple times today about the defensive line, about players on the defensive line. This question was actually more so about Trey Hendrickson, but then I can't remember who asked this question because I was reading the transcripts, but the question asked about DeForest Buckner, having that star impact player on the interior with Buckner, and Lou Anarumo did mention that there were two players that really stood out to him on this defensive line he has one guy on the inside in DeForest Buckner and a guy on the outside in Leatu Latu a player who he specifically shouted out again not even prompted
Starting point is 00:13:15 to really talk about Leatu Latu here but he said he really liked him coming out in the draft and then most of the answer was about Buckner from there but I did think it was interesting that he specifically talked about Laatu Laatu and even said hey we have a guy on the inside and a guy on the outside so he kind of inferred with that answer that he has Laatu maybe not in the same tier as a DeForest Buckner but like an impact player on the edge which I think is quite important I mean Laatu Laatu Laatu, I think by all accounts, was a little disappointing in his first season. Maybe that's because expectations were placed a little bit too high on him. Maybe he played too many snaps as a rookie and so forth.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But I do think Anirumo sees the potential there with a guy like Laatu. And I'm excited to see how he uses him. Again, I think it's a little bit of a fallacy to say, like, Trey Hendrickson was this good in Cincinnati. Therefore, Leatu Latu will be that good, too. I do think that those things are being conflated a little bit. But when we look at how a player is used, you know, with the Colts last year with Gus Bradley, it was defensive ends were primarily in a wide nine all the time. Very, very much out on the edges. And both players were kind of treated like Leo defensive ends were primarily in a wide nine all the time, very, very much out on the edges. And both players were kind of treated like Leo defensive ends that were pass rushing at all
Starting point is 00:14:31 times. When it comes to Luana Rumo, it's more traditional in a sense where, you know, your quitty pays or your diode dang bows on one side will be more five technique, six technique layout to lot to will be in a seven technique early, go out to a nine technique on third downs a lot of times but you know and rumo kind of mixes it around a little bit there'll be some two-point stances from from a lot to this year he'll be moving across the defensive line i saw some really cool packages where a guy like trey hendrickson was lined up at linebacker on third downs and was blitzing like some stunts uh some really cool exotic stunts that way so i think he'll take advantage of having a player like law to next to buckner in a sense where it won't be as static in terms of hey you're on you're going to be lined up against the left
Starting point is 00:15:16 tackle or the right tackle on 90 of snaps in that wide nine and just go win your matchup i think he'll be moving around a little bit and being used more as like a weapon on the defensive line. So I think that's what we can really take away from it. Like, look, Laotu Laotu is not Trey Hendrickson. I don't expect him to be Trey Hendrickson anytime soon because Trey Hendrickson is a superstar. But I do think the usage-wise, like moving him around the line, two-point stance,
Starting point is 00:15:41 delayed rushes to use that explosiveness, I think we could see a little bit of that next year with Leatu Latu. Yeah, the thing that really worries me about when you compare Latu and Trey Hendrickson is Trey Hendrickson is a no-gloves guy, and Latu was a no-gloves guy during the summer before the season. So the aesthetics, I'm really worried that it's just going to be horrendous and Latu might go to no-g no gloves. I mean, but if it works, it works. I'm a no gloves guy. I'm a no gloves guy.
Starting point is 00:16:07 So I'm all for the no gloves. God. But no, I mean, I think moving him around would be great. Like I picture like getting him moving around him and Franklin double blitzing the A gap or something like that. There's a lot of cool things you could do with that. Just move the guy around. He doesn't have to just be the right end every time yeah um but yeah move the guy around you've you've got some guys on there you could do cool things with like i've kind of pictured dio being
Starting point is 00:16:32 like the ultimate kind of play thing for ana rumo to figure out things to do with as well um so yeah i think la too is definitely someone who could benefit now is he going to jump up to 10 sacks or anything? No, not necessarily. But like six, seven, eight sacks building on the four sacks he had this year. Because he did have a lot of pressure. So he just needed to finish. Finish your tackles, please. Latu Latu last season, I think, was third on the team in missed tackle rate at like 19%.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Let's finish some plays. Yeah, he had quarterbacks in his grasp a lot. Like he had the four sacks, but I think he was a little more impactful than that. But now that Buckner, I am interested to see early in the season and especially like in training camp in the preseason when Latu and Buckner were just were teamed up next to each other. Now, obviously, we saw it during the season, but it was so effective. I don't really know what happened. I think it was maybe just, you know, the live bullets hitting and, you know, actual game plans coming into play and offenses knowing what to do.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But that does have so much potential. I'm really interested in that. I could see them adding to the defensive line, too, because we've discussed, you know, Dio's a free agent. Samson Ebicom, it makes a lot of sense for him to be a cap casualty. So not only Latu and Buckner, but, like, what might we see brought in this offseason for Anarumo to really do his thing? Something else that stuck out to me, and this kind of snowballs off
Starting point is 00:18:01 of what I said earlier, but I asked Lou today, is there like a particular position group that if this thing is, if you've got everything you need at this position group, then your defense is going to be maximized. And he had already been asked about Jesse Bates, of course, and free safety. So I think free safety makes a lot of sense to him. But rather than really subscribing to one position group he mentioned guys he really wants good communicators and smart football players yeah and for me i'm i'm kind of wondering when it comes to chris ballard and what he covets and
Starting point is 00:18:39 you know free agents i think what he goes for in free agents in draft prospects is a little different but i wonder if anarumo is going to lean way more heavily into guys with good instincts and football iq over guys who are just super freak athletes which bet on traits yes that is awesome like more often than not those guys are going to have some sort of utility for you. But especially on defense, for me, when I'm watching draft prospects before, like if they're always in the right place and they look like they understand what's happening in front of them and they're not getting victimized and you could just tell they're heady on tape. I think that's what Anna Rumo covets more than a corner. That's six to jumps 40 inches and runs a four, three, five. I think he just wants guys that are going to be doing the right thing and
Starting point is 00:19:35 being in the right place. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't have to be either or though, which is nice. And you can have, I mean, you're going to find guys who can,
Starting point is 00:19:42 can do it all, you know, find you a guy who can do both. Yeah. Kenny Moore, Kenny Moore, I think is one're going to find guys who can do it all. You know, find you a guy who can do both. Yeah, Kenny Moore. Kenny Moore, I think, is one of the smartest players in football. Like, when you watch his film, super smart player in terms of his instincts, his ability to understand route combinations and how to bait. Honestly, I want Kenny to take an even more vocal role this season on the defense,
Starting point is 00:20:03 just in terms of communication. And, I mean, look, you don't do this this a slot corner is not the guy you give this to but like even if you have to have him being the guy with the mic in the helmet like you know that's a little too crazy there but I mean this is a guy who he's such a heady football player and we've even had you know Zyra Franklin said that his coverage got better this year because he listened to kenny more in terms of that uh sam woolmack i believe has talked about how kenny really helped with the transition um and how kenny was was key communicating wise um to to really maximize him this year so i want kenny to even be more vocal on this defense in turn because i think he's one of the smartest players and look if you want to have a system that's built around smart
Starting point is 00:20:43 football players kenny moore is your smart football player on like the smart the smart football player especially in coverage uh so that's a little bit on uh just kind of players that we think anarumo could really like and players and and aspects that they could be looking for going forward coming up though i have another film nerd thing that just really stood out to me and and i'm glad he got to talking about this because I did kind of ask Jake to ask about this. And luckily, someone beat Jake to the punch. So some more film nerd stuff on Lou Hannah-Rummel coming up in just a second. From the first whistle to the final drive, Fandle makes the NFL playoffs even more exciting.
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Starting point is 00:21:53 Make this playoff season unforgettable with FanDuel, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL. All right, hit us, nerd. What did you love, lastly, that Anna rumo said when it comes to kenny moore yeah well i texted you last night jake and i was like make sure you ask him about kenny moore something around kenny moore yeah uh and you didn't uh you you completely ignored me i just you left me on red uh was the problem uh but no somebody asked him i responded yeah you responded to me don't worry guys uh but i believe it was i want to say it was joel uh joel erickson asked um about
Starting point is 00:22:32 louisiana room was blitz numbers going down in his time in cincinnati yeah and and he did say that you know it's more of a game by game thing and it's about matchup which uh from my understanding he likes to blitz like the bad quarterbacks a little bit more, which we'll get into more this offseason, which is kind of funny. But one thing he did really say about this was he liked to bring Mike Hilton off and off the slot. And we've got a guy that that's very similar to him here in Kenny Moore, the second. So it was kind of a coach speak answer in terms of situation, who we're playing and stuff. But to me, me look we have the data we have the stats we know that Louie Anarumo likes to blitz the slot corner especially
Starting point is 00:23:10 Mike Hilton Mike Hilton was top three in pass rush reps among slot among all cornerbacks the last four seasons under Anarumo we know he likes to blitz it but just the confirmation just to talk about it being like hey we have a guy like Mike Hilton here and Kenny Moore the shout out of the player who i've been pounding the table these last couple days being like i'm telling you guys this is a great fit um just for him to mention that and talk about the blitzing which again kenny more i i think someone said the other day kenny more's like top 10 top 12 all time among cornerbacks and sacks in a career and he's not very old like he's I think he's just turning 30 here soon so there's still plenty of time to get up to like Rondé Barber's like career sack numbers like 25 Kenny's at 15 in his career so Kenny's Kenny's a great blitzer I'm excited to
Starting point is 00:23:59 get back to the Kenny Moore blitzes uh because Gus Bradley kind of moved away from them he did start getting back to them a little bit more last season, but you know, if we can get Kenny back up to 50, 60, 70 blitzes a season, which is, I don't have a math brain right here,
Starting point is 00:24:16 but let's, that's what, like four or five, six blitzes a game. Perfect. Perfect. Bring Kenny off the edge. Let him get after these quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I'll never forget that, uh, that playoff run he had with the Colts back in, what, was it 2018 where he had like four sacks in two games in the playoffs? And I remember the 2019, his sack against the Chiefs, where he dipped under the left tackle's reach and got to Mahomes. Yeah, wasn't that 2018? I think it was 2018. No, no, it was yeah 2019 in the regular season he didn't have that dip the Jacoby Brissett game but no he did go on a heater
Starting point is 00:24:50 the the in 2018 because that's when that's when the Colts made their last playoff run yeah let him blitz let him let him come off the edge I I just love that Andrew Rumo shouted that out today that he likes to blitz the slot and he has a player in kenny more that he can do that with this next season that's what i'm excited for it's like get kenny more going downhill make him be that playmaker again and i think we'll see the best version of kenny that we've seen since his pro bowl season in 2021 yep so last for me here um i asked again lou you know what what are these next few weeks look like for you? Because he just got here, but he's probably not going to be down in Mobile, but the Senior Bowl is next week. So that's going
Starting point is 00:25:31 to be the first huge moment of draft evaluation. He's going to have to be included in that, at least film review of it. You got the combine coming up, but he's still got to fill a staff because linebackers coach Richard Smith is gone, as well as DB's coach Ron Milas. They're always kind of a package deal with Gus Bradley. So basically, you know, what's, what's next for you? And he said, you know, a little bit of everything he's got to, he's really going to dive into free agency in the draft. He's got to tell Chris Ballard in the front office, like some guys that, you know, free agency first, obviously. But that they've got to dive into that right away. Like, I know he just got here, but the NFL does not slow down.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But, yeah, he's also going to evaluate players, see who's going to really fit into the scheme, who he can get the most out of and who they may need to move on from. Because that free agency part of it also deals with their own in-house guys um and then filling that staff and then just kind of laying the groundwork for the playbook and what they really want to establish uh he did say that you know he's already spoken to several players uh on the phone and then you know there's been some who are still in the facility that have dropped in and and talked to him well. So they're kind of laying the early groundwork of things right now, expectations. But I think the exciting thing is, I mean, we got to get to figure out who these final two position coaches are going to be, and maybe even some more assistants, you know, defensive quality control and assistant, this and that. But, you know, the work for him to tell Chris Ballard and the group
Starting point is 00:27:08 who they really want in the building, it starts now. Yeah, and I'm curious to see how he fills out his staff here because, like, unlike with Gus Bradley, we kind of knew everyone that Gus Bradley was going to bring in because Ron Milas and Richard Smith follow him everywhere. We knew those two guys were coming to Indy. Right now, though, there are a couple vacancies on the defensive staff with Gus Bradley departing. And, you know, I think James Boettcher is a good bet to be the linebacker coach.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I wouldn't say it's 100%, but I think Anarumo's worked with Boettcher since, like, 2018. I want to say Boettcher hired him to be a DB coach when Boettcher was the defensive coordinator for the Giants in 2018. I want to say Betcher hired him to be a DB coach when he would, when Betcher was the defensive coordinator for the giants in 2018. And then when Betcher got let go and Anna Rumo became the defensive coordinator for the bangles, it became like this symbiotic, like they just got it flipped or whatever. And Betcher became the linebacker coach. So they've been working together for a long time.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'd be shocked if Betcher didn't follow him here, especially with Betcher being born in Indiana as well, like born and raised here. Yeah, so it seems like a perfect fit. Betcher was actually here coaching in the Colts in 2012, so that one makes sense. But aside from that, like DB coach, I'm not really sure who they're going to target.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You know, Jordan Kovacs was his safety coach last year with the Bengals. Jordan Kovacs actually played in the NFL a couple of years ago as a special team safety. I don't know if he wants to keep that or or if he's going to go a different route. So we'll see. We'll see. I know a lot of people want like big names on on assistant coaching staff. So maybe we see, you know, maybe we see something like that. But I think it'll more so be guys that he's worked with in the past and we'll see how he fills it out. But yeah, excited to see what Anarumo can do with the staff, do with the players coming back and which of his guys or which free agency guys he really puts a stamp on because they do
Starting point is 00:28:55 need some veteran help. I think they need some veteran help at outside corner, definitely at free safety and probably another one at linebacker too. So who are the guys that he's really going to pound the table for? That'll be a big thing this offseason. Zach and I are actually going to start pounding the table for dudes as well because, I mean, we've talked to death about defensive coordinator candidates and Ana Ramos specifically all this week. We want to start moving into some player acquisition stuff as well. So draft picks we like, free agents we like.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The Senior Bowl is next week. I'll be down in mobile. So I'll have stuff for you guys every single day down there. Uh, so yeah, the draft season starts now for agency is even before that. So we're pumped if there's, if there's guys that you like and want us to kind of dive into, let us know as well. Yeah. I mean, we're going to become the Tyler Warren to Indianapolis locked on show, basically. There's three options in the first round. Tyler Warren, Malachi Starks, or if they go back, Xavier Watts.
Starting point is 00:29:54 That's your three options. I haven't even heard many about the other two, though, because everything has been Tyler Warren to Indy. I feel like at this point we're going to have a riot in Indy. It's very important. If Tyler Warren doesn't come to Indy. But, yeah, you guys let us know in the comments section what you think of Lou Anarumo. this point we're gonna have a riot in india very important doesn't come to indy uh but yeah you guys let us know in the comment section what you think of lou anna rumo and also again what you
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