Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts SAF PREVIEW: Cam Bynum, Nick Cross Set to EXPLODE with Lou Anarumo

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Indianapolis Colts safeties Camryn Bynum and Nick Cross are great fits in Lou Anarumo's defense. Meanwhile, there may be roles for Hunter Wohler and Rodney Thomas II behind the pair.What should the ex...pectations for the group be in 2025? Become a Locked On Colts insider! Ask your burning questions and get prompt answers from someone who's around the team every day! Get special access from the locker room, practice field, and press box! JOIN HERE! Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts/📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQLocked On NFL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Draft & More🎧 https://lockedonpodcasts.com/podcasts/locked-on-nfl/ Follow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, @LockedOnColts, and @ColtsOn_SI, as well on TikTok and Instagram! Today's episode is brought to you by Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get $150 in BONUS BETS when your first $5 BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable free bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNFL at monarchmoney.com/lockedonnfl for 50% off your first year.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Indianapolis Colts secondary got a major facelift this offseason. One of the big acquisitions was Cameron Bynum. How does he factor into the safety room and does this make the safety room much better? Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts. Your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. on your team every day.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Thank you all for tuning in and making sure first listen of the day the daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts part of the lockdown podcast network your team every day is brought to you by game time download the game time app create an account and use code locked on NFL for $20 off of your first purchase. Hello everyone. My name is Zach Hicks your resident film nerd of horseshoe huddle.com and my partner Jake Arthur is our credential boots on the ground for the site. We are continuing the Colts preview series that we've been doing this off season. We are just about wrapping it up. We have safeties today. Tomorrow we have the offensive line
Starting point is 00:01:06 and that should be it for the entire safety and let's for the entire group. And unless Jake wants to do a special, we're doing one on kicker, punter and we'll try. We'll try. We'll break down the kicker competition, I guess, just to kill me in front of
Starting point is 00:01:21 our front of our listeners. But today we're talking all about the safety position. We're going to break down the starters, the key reserves and a couple of the bottom of the roster guys that hey, they they might have a chance to make this team out of training camp. But Jake, let's kick it off with these two starters. I don't think this is going to surprise anyone when we say that Cameron Bynum and Nick Cross are in line to be the cold starters this year.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Cameron Bynum will play more of that free safety over top role. Nick Cross more of the strong safety in the box, but I think we're gonna see these guys shift quite a bit this season. It's not gonna be as static as it was under Gus Bradley. Even if they are gonna have their set roles, I think that we're going to see these guys rotate quite a bit because Cameron Bynum maybe isn't the ideal like Jesse Bates like safety that we all wanted the Colts to get this offseason But if they weren't going to get that kind of guy the next best thing is a guy like Bynum who's a playmaker who can play in the box play over top and Kind of add this different dimension to your back end. So Jake, what do you think about this safety duo?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, I mean, for $60 million, you would hope that Cam Bynum is in line to be the starter. But no, I really like this tandem altogether. I try to think of comparisons for Bynum a lot, and I really don't think he's too dissimilar from Julian Blackman, but where Blackman was better as a strong safety and could wear a lot of hats, you know, line up in the slot, you know, move around a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Bynum can do that same thing, but he's better at free safety. So together, I really do like this duo with Bynum being kind of a guy who's probably more often than not going to be the, you know, the high safety while Cross has gotten better and better and better each year, just eliminating everything in front of him and just being kind of a guy who's super effective in the box. He was one of the more reliable defenders last year when it came to sniffing out those plays to the outside or even coming up from safety to make plays in the backfield. So I think these guys compliment each other really
Starting point is 00:03:25 well. I think they both have really good ball skills across. It was obviously a guy who was really raw coming in. What was he like 20? He was like the youngest player in the league, I think when they drafted him. But I think his instincts have gotten a lot better. His tackling has gotten a lot better, which is good because those were major weak spots when he started. So overall, I really think this is a complete safety tandem that I think is really going to be able to thrive under a coordinator and Lou Anna Rummo, who is more of a fits his scheme to what his players can do rather than shoving the players into the scheme and trying to make it work. So these guys have a lot of talents and I think he's going to be able to do a lot with them.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, and I think that that's a great segue into my big talking point I want to make about these two safeties is what kind of defense do we see with Louie Anarumo with these two guys? Because if we look at how Anarumo used his safeties with the Cincinnati Bengals, if you go back three ish years, three, four years to win Jesse Bates and then you had prime von Bell, I guess that's the best way to put it, is prime von Bell, pre-washed von Bell, I guess is the way that you do it. Right, right. Decent, decent von Bell. When you really look when he had those that duo there in the early years of his tenure with the bangles It was basically what the colts were doing with blackman and cross last year where no other safety touched the field
Starting point is 00:04:54 It was just those two guys if they're healthy. They are on the field two safeties only We're not getting a third safety in the mix But these last two years post jesse bates we have seen a more rotation at that safety spot I think part of that is certainly due to Just the quality of play of the safeties with the Bengals You know, you're gonna rotate a player like Nick Scott or washed von Bell or Jordan battle You're gonna rotate those guys a little bit more than you would rotate a Jesse Bates or von Bell in his prime So that could be part of it But another part of it could just be that Anna Rimo has adjusted what he does defensively. And he likes to get more safeties on the field and
Starting point is 00:05:31 also get more of a heavy rotation going there to keep guys fresh and for certain personnel grouping. So I think one thing that we'll see early in this season, Jake, is we'll kind of get a sense of how strongly he feels about Nick Cross for instance early in the year because Cameron Bynum is not going to come off the field. You're paying him a ton of money. Obviously, Anarumo had a big say in bringing him here, but Nick Cross is the guy that's a carryover from the last regime and we'll see how much he likes Nick Cross by how much that rotation happens or if he just feels like crosses more of a platoon player than an every down player like again von bell back in 2020 or jesse bates obviously his whole career you know uh but i i think we'll see i kind of guess his feel for this safety duo early in the
Starting point is 00:06:17 season by how much he's rotating back there because the last two years in cincinnati he's rotated quite heavily at the safety position, especially at strong safety, where Von Bell, Nick Scott and what was the other guy? Oh, Jordan Battle. Jordan Battle. Yeah, Jordan Battle have all hit 280 plus coverage snaps each of the last two seasons. You know, so those guys are really mixing and matching out there. We'll see if crosses is the first safety in a couple of years for an remote that can hit more that 500 coverage snap threshold that he hit last year under Gus Bradley. I could see I could see an avenue for that. Like you mentioned, he's a he's a carryover from the last regime. He was not handpicked
Starting point is 00:06:59 like Bynum was. But at the same time, I would not like it. I don't think you get better by taking Nick Cross off the field. Like I understand he's not a perfect player, but he is a good example of a guy who like, this is like the right version of what the Colts could've done with Anthony Richardson, for example. They were overly patient and made this kid develop and wait until he really got on the field. And he mostly only got on the field when they had to
Starting point is 00:07:29 do it with with injuries and whatnot until he was ready last year when he won that spot. And now you can just clearly see he's getting better all the time. The issues the biggest issues he had early in his career are no longer his biggest issues. And he's really been a bright spot and one of the most consistent players. Now mind you, you don't usually want safety's making a ton of tackles. That usually means the opponent's ball is getting into the second third level but so many of the tackles he made I felt like were inside 10 to 5 yards. Like I thought they were quality tackles. So this is a guy with a real nose for the ball.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I think he's starting to understand what he sees more. He's not being fooled quite as much, although on shorter stuff, I will say in coverage in the red zone, I think that's probably what I think is his biggest area of opportunity for growth. Cause we've seen a lot of miscues over the years, even kind of continuing into last year. But Bynum is a guy who probably going to play at least 1,100 snaps or so, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:30 that that's going to be a guy that probably does not leave the field. And I will be interested to see if there's injuries elsewhere, like how that might impact him, because they've kind of trumpeted his versatility as well. And they've done that with Julian Blackman in the past, but that was almost out of necessity because they had nobody else. Right. But I am very curious to see like, if there are any injuries,
Starting point is 00:08:54 if that adjusts what they do at all with Bynum. Yeah, and on top of that, I think when we're looking at the safety duo, I don't think the Colts have to be super rigid with these two compared to how they, I mean, Julian Blackman had some versatility as well But I think when I look at Cameron Bynum I think of him more as like like kind of how like a Malcolm Jenkins was used with the Eagles where it's like
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yes, Jenkins wasn't the fastest or the most explosive safety But he was a really heady player could make plays in the ball could be physical in the run game I kind of think of that type of mold when I think of a Bynum So I do think the Colts can be a bit more versatile in the back end. Yes, you do to get you don't have like that again, the Jesse Bates center fielder ability on the back end. But you get more of this player that can do it all for you. And and we've seen Nick cross where I don't think he's the perfect free safety by any means, we have seen some high level coverage plays from him as that that center fielder when he rotates back there on occasion. So I'm really curious to see the usage rate of these safeties just in terms of overall snaps. Like, is it just the one to punch with Lou Intermo for the first time in three years? Or is there a rotation there?
Starting point is 00:10:00 And then on top of that, what does the center fielder snaps versus box snaps look like for these two guys? I have no doubts that Bindem will get more deep third coverage snaps than Crosswill and Crosswill get more box snaps. But what does that disparity look like? Is it going to be closer than what we saw under Gus Bradley, for instance, where it was very clear what the two roles were?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Are these two roles going to be merged a little bit more with two safeties that can kind of do both things at a pretty solid level Just take whatever the Packers and Jeff Hathaway did with Xavier McKinney last year and you apply that To can't bind him and I'm a okay that works Get him an interception like each of the first seven weeks or whatever Yeah, just as long as you get an interception every every game that's fine. Yeah, exactly, yeah, 60 million, you get 60 picks, you know, whatever. Yeah, right. But yeah, guys, so we kind of alluded to the fact
Starting point is 00:10:51 that there might be a little rotation here, so who would be the next guys up if the Colts do take either of these guys off the field? Have you ever decided at the last minute to head to a ball game with friends or family? Maybe it's a game day and you suddenly realize that you want to be in the stands. Well, that's exactly where game time comes in It is the easiest way to grab last-minute tickets without all the stress with the money you save on tickets You could splurge on food drinks merch or even invite a bigger group to come with you game time makes it possible
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Starting point is 00:12:20 Download the Game Time app today. Last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. All right, Zach. So Lou Anarumo is dubbed the mad scientist. We've heard it from former players. DeForest Buckner said he sees exactly why. And part of that is his how he uses his players and substitutes and puts them in the right positions. So you can see Nick Cross can bind them in a third safety on the field depending on whatever the situation is offensively and the next guy's up logically so far is Hunter Roller and Rodney Thomas. So far, we've seen both those guys in the spring program come in and kind of take part is that third
Starting point is 00:13:01 safety, you know, whether you move Nick Cross up into the box and to be kind of an extra linebacker, you can move Waller in there to linebacker. It's kind of why they drafted him to be that hybrid. Now he's mostly been safety so far, but you can kind of do similar like a diet, Nick Cross, essentially. And then Rodney Thomas, if it's like an obvious passing situation, like third and longer, so that might be your guy right there. So when it comes to Roller, when it comes Ronnie Thomas, if it's like an obvious passing situation, like third and long or so, that might be your guy right there.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So when it comes to Roller, when it comes to Thomas, you might see them be those guys with 200 coverage snaps. Yeah, I think the next man up in the safety room is going to be a pretty big deal this year for the Colts. Obviously injuries are a big part of the NFL. So that's one case there. If there is a rotation at safety, like I mentioned in the first segment then obviously the third safety Is gonna be a pretty big deal
Starting point is 00:13:49 And then also like let's live in a world where the the two starters are healthy and they're playing pretty much all the snaps This next season let's live in that world, please even Right, it'd be great. It would be great to have that for once with the Colts Even in that scenario Lou and Rumo has mixed in some three safety looks the last couple of years, especially against like like a Pat Mahomes, for instance. I think I charted the third downs against Mahomes the other day. Let me look at it here. I have it. Yeah, they had like 10 third down plays against Pat Mahomes last year.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I think for them, they had three safety sets on the field. So 40% of the third downs against Pat Mahomes. And that's not even factoring like the third and ones and third and twos, they weren't gonna have three safeties on the field for stuff like that. So long story short, they like to have three safety sets in their back pocket. It may only be used at like a 5% rate,
Starting point is 00:14:39 but that's still a good chunk of snaps over the course of an entire season. So that third safety, even if it's only a handful of snaps, is going to have to be a guy that you can reliably put on the field during the season. And we're looking at two guys here, Rodney Thomas and Hunter Wohler. One of our commenters actually also mentioned Juju Brents potentially for that as well. So I think Juju Brents could also factor into that just because we don't really know where Juju Brents is fitting in with
Starting point is 00:15:05 This defense at the moment So I think the Colts have a lot of options for what they want to do with that third safety when they go to these sets You even mentioned to Jake that when you're watching mini camp and trust me guys I'm not trying to say that mini camp is the most indicative thing of the regular season But just watching mini camp you saw three safety sets on the field You saw Ronnie Thomas coming in on a lot of third down looks. You saw Hunter Wohler getting in the box with two safeties over the top as well with the second and third team. So I think this is going to be part of the Colts playbook this next season on defense and we're going to see multiple safeties
Starting point is 00:15:39 on the field, especially on like third and long situations. So yeah, this, this extra safety is going to be a big deal. I think Thomas has the edge right now because I think they like Nick Cross moving to the box in these scenarios and being more of that hook defender. I think he's really good as a hook defender. But I think Wohler can also come in there and and make a name for himself as well. It's going to be really interesting to see what happens here with these three safety sets, because unlike last year, a guy like Rodney Thomas or a guy like Hunter Wohler may have to play real NFL snaps, you know, where last year Thomas only had the one game where he really got on the field. And outside of that, it was only crossing Blackman the entire year. Kind of bizarre that we've got a seventh rounder and Hunter Wohler here that we talk about as almost like a shoe in for the roster, right? But like, he's got such a specific role that
Starting point is 00:16:28 it's like, as long as he just doesn't screw it up, I think he's probably got it. But I want to entertain the juju brands thing here for a minute, because I do feel like I have been asked you individually here on the show, we've been asked about juju brands at safety a lot. And I don't, let's just entertain it for a second. I don't think they would move him to like a classic safety role. But think of like Quincy Wilson when 2019 maybe whatever it was, Quincy Wilson when they kind of it wasn't nickel, it wasn't safety, but it was like designated big tight end coverage guy essentially. Like it was some sort of hybrid role where if you're facing a Travis Kelsey or like an Evan Ingram, some sort of tight end that could just cook from the slot. He was your guy that you could put out there.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Maybe that's something they could do with Juju Brentz. Now again, it wouldn't be like- It's kind of like the star position in college. Like the star, it's not really using the NFL as much, but like the star position in a way, yeah. Yeah, like in Imani Hooker, I guess. I'm trying to think of guys who get used in that versatile way in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:17:36 and he's maybe one of them, but yeah, I don't think they would just line him back 20 yards off the ball, like as a free safety or anything, but for very specific matchups against an opponent, I think is maybe what they could do with him otherwise He would just kind of be an occasional rotational player I think but yeah, I don't think he just will factor into the safety rotation at all other than Maybe that very specific role. Yeah, it again, it's like the star position in college
Starting point is 00:18:06 where you kind of have it's more of a safety playing like a nickel slash weak side linebacker role in like a 425 type or yeah, 425. Yes, 425. I'm trying to do the numbers in my head. 425 type of defense. When you do go to that, like that fifth defender, instead of it being a traditional slot corner, it's more of like a safety playing like a will linebacker type role because your white did that at a at a West Virginia Yeah, they were actually a 335 and and the 335 was with that star defender
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's not really using the NFL as much but maybe you know And everyone could get fancy with it and get a juju friends out there in that role I don't really see it as the best fit for him because I his tackling is good in space for a corner, but I don't really want him in the box there. I would just much rather prefer putting a guy like a Wohler in that spot or putting a Nick Cross in that spot where you get more physical play. You get more of that tackling prowess. Again, maybe if you're on like a like a third and 12 and you are, you know, playing against the Travis Kelsey or George Kittle and you feel confident about putting the Brents on
Starting point is 00:19:09 that player, maybe. But I do think we're mostly looking at Rodney Thomas Hunter Wohler for this third safety role. And then on top of that, these guys are going to be playing a lot of special teams this year. Thomas really worked his way on special teams last season, had to pretty much play special teams all year last year. Then Hunter Wohler just gives off special team revives, you know, like he just just the way he played in college, that physicality, that the ability to just fly downhill.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Very much special team revive. So these two guys will see a lot of this season, even if it's not on defense. But I have a sneaky suspicion we'll see a little bit more of these guys on defense than what we saw last year from the Colts third safety. Yeah, because the two starting safeties Blackman and cross were both 1000 plus snap guys so very limited rotation but nonetheless probably going to be a little more unique this year than what we used to send. time for us to talk about the nerdy stuff. You bottom of the roster guys who, Hey, maybe they make the roster. All right. It is Chris Ballard's Cinderella. Very first Daniel Scott, the guy who has spent his first two years on injured reserve, very unfortunate because you and I, he had some juice, you know, we, we were, we were into it when the cold strapped him I think fifth round out of Cal the super athlete We saw him as like a special teams demon with the potential to carve out maybe like a third safety role
Starting point is 00:20:34 But unfortunately Achilles and ACL and back-to-back years has just kept him off the field Now one I hope he still has the explosiveness He once did because those are two big time injuries that take a year or two each to kind of come back from to get your explosiveness back but they've been dying to see what he can do. They've been patient. He's still there. So, I mean, if he stays healthy this summer and looks pretty good or at least is like
Starting point is 00:21:01 a special teams standout, I mean, that may be his ticket right there is just special teams. And then if it kind of happens to fall into their lap, that he has to play a little bit on defense because of injuries, then so be it. But he's a guy I could see performing well on special teams and earning a spot that way. Yeah. It's actually really funny thinking of Daniel Scott, because I remember a while back, back one of my not one of my biggest like draft hits, but where I felt like a pretty big hit was I was really high on Cameron Bynum. He was the top 100 player for me out of Cal had that safety and corner versatility. And while Scott and Bynum were very different level of athletes like Bynum just doesn't have didn't have the explosiveness that Scott had. They reminded me so much of each other because I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:45 oh, that Cal DB that I fell in love with a couple of years ago that became a good player for the Vikings. They have another one there at Cal right now who's a little bit older, can play some corner, play some safety. And then when the Colts drafted him in round five, I was like, great, we got our get back for missing on Cameron Bynum. Flash forward to now. Now we have both these guys on the team.
Starting point is 00:22:04 But yeah, Daniel Scott, he I was so impressed with his college film. I just saw this player who has the physicality, has the speed, has the closing ability, who can play safety at a pretty good level. And I was I mean, I was buying all his stock a couple of years ago. I was fully expecting him to be like a third safety that got a good chunk of playing time or at least a specialty in the demon. Like you said, playing some gunner. But now we're sitting here in 2025 with him coming off Achilles injury and coming off an ACL injury.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It's a hard road to get back from that, especially when he's I think he's already 26 or 27. He was an older guy coming out the draft. Yeah, he was like a 24 year old prospect. So we're looking at a 26, 27 year old player coming off two major injuries He's really never even made an impact on the NFL field yet at this point So it's really hard to bet on that type of player But he's getting this really rare opportunity that most players in his situation don't get and that the Colts believe in him The Colts keep bringing him back most teams would just kind of cut it at this point and just say, okay, we missed on that day three pick, but the Colts have
Starting point is 00:23:08 been sticking with him and we'll see if he finally takes advantage of this chance here. You feel awful for players when it comes to injuries like this. By all accounts, really good, really good dude. I know a couple of people who know him and they've always spoken very highly on him. I want to just see him get a chance out there and stay healthy for an offseason just for his own mental sake You know getting on the field and and just showing that he can get through an offseason But I was very very high on Daniel Scott I really hope he can he can really show out this offseason because His film was pretty good at Cal and I and I still think that there's some skill there for him that can translate to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, I think if this was a relatively deep safety group, his chances would be pretty slim. Yeah, but you know, Rodney Thomas is not a he's not a replaceable by any means like he has been replaced in the starting lineup literally. in the starting lineup, literally. Wohler is not really a guy you're looking at to be a classic safety in either role. Like it's got the hybrid linebacker. So there is room for a core special team safety who can give you something at the actual safety position. So that could be interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Our next guy is probably our favorite UDFA, I would say, Trey Washington out of Ole Miss. So this is a guy who, free safety, strong safety, nickel versatility, is that correct? He's a little undersized. He's got tweener size. You don't look at him and say,
Starting point is 00:24:36 oh, that's a strong safety or free. He could do a little bit of everything and had a decent spring. He broke up a pass in front of AD Mitchell in the back of the end zone on one day. So like I at least have a positive mental note about him from the spring. So we'll see what he can do. I mean, you had Aaron Reynolds and his agent on for a segment one day. So we got a lot of good information there.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But now, I mean, I think this kid's got a good chance But again, if you're not gonna excel in special teams, you have no chance from this position Yeah, he's got as good a chance as any undrafted free agents going to get and that's a slim chance But a slim chance you'll take it at this point, you know, just just having a chance at all I do think he has an outside shot to make this team I think practice squad is probably more likely. Jamie Moore and a couple other people in the scouting department are very, very high
Starting point is 00:25:28 on Trey Washington. So I think even if he doesn't make the team, I think scouting or the practice squad is certainly a spot for him. But yeah, I really like him as a player just in terms of, you know, in a world in college football where players are jumping around, transferring, and not really playing too much early
Starting point is 00:25:44 unless they're like these top tier prospects. We saw a player with Washington where he stuck it out at Ole Miss for every single year of his college career and he played a lot of football like just a ton of football under his belt playing some free safety some strong safety. I really like him as a nickel. I know the Colts view him more as a safety. I like him as a nickel corner. But I think this guy can play a lot of different roles and wear a lot of hats. And if he can really show out on special teams, I think that there should there should be a role for him in the NFL. I think this is a rosterable player in the NFL and it might take him some time, but I think he can get there. Yeah, the size is certainly a little bit of a drawback. You know, I think he's
Starting point is 00:26:23 like 5'9", 5'10", maybe at best 200 pounds, but he plays much bigger than the size is certainly a little bit of a drawback. I think he's like 5'9", 5'10", maybe at best, 200 pounds, but he plays much bigger than the size, really good physicality, a really good tackler, one of the best tacklers in the FBS last year, which when we're looking at this Colts defense last season, what was the biggest issue? Their ability to actually tackle players. So I really like Trey Washington.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Again, I don't think he's gonna beat out like a Hunter Woller, Rodney Thomas for a final spot, but he's a guy where if he makes it to the practice squad, I'm pretty optimistic about him going forward and hope that he can kind of earn a spot maybe like next year on the actual 53-man roster. Last guy we're gonna talk about, and this will be the best one in the group
Starting point is 00:27:02 because we've talked about the least, Liderius Tennyson, I believe at one time team-mate at Trey Washington at Ole Miss. So Tennyson, Tennyson bounced around a little bit. He was at Ole Miss a couple of years then went to UCF. So I think they at least maybe cross paths at Ole Miss briefly, but he is more of a in the box guy, closer line of scrimmage, strong safety linebacker type. You can move into the slot a little bit against maybe your slower slots.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But you know, that's he's definitely one of the players on the roster. I know the absolute least about like I think I know more about Maddox Trujillo. So we'll see. I mean, I'm keeping an open mind because this is a roster that they've talked about open competition and made the best man win. And let's, let's see if they could put their money where their mouth is. If this guy stands out, then maybe he gets a spot, but I will, I will confidently say between Washington or Tennyson, one of them will be on the practice squad. Yeah. I feel pretty good saying that as well.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I think that makes a lot of sense for this team and and kind of what they need going forward Yeah, Tennyson is certainly one of the players in this series. I don't know as much about compared to others But I will I you know, I'll be pretty confident saying this even though I haven't watched much of Tennyson It can't be worse than the Michael Tootsie thing the last couple off seasons where Tootsie just kept coming back and then every time he got on the field, I mean he was getting toasted by. I mean guys who probably wouldn't
Starting point is 00:28:31 even make it in the UFL, you know, and I was like, what are we doing here every season? I remember when they first brought him in two years ago. You and I found that he was like the second oldest defensive back on the roster other than Kenny Moore I think yeah, which is crazy because he was a UDF a so there's like 26 as a UDF a out of North Dakota State
Starting point is 00:28:54 He played like eight years there, but he's from India. I think he went to Warren Central. So yeah Might have been the teammate at Juju Brunson actually Yeah, Michael Titsy got to wear a Colts uniform for a couple of off seasons, really happy for him, but I'm glad they may be elevated a little bit, just getting a bigger, faster guy on the field is probably a better elevation than where it's been. So again, raising the bottom of the this Colts roster, getting a guy like Tennyson in here instead of who they've had in the past,
Starting point is 00:29:23 but we'll see how the competition breaks down at this spot. I'm really, really intrigued by safety going into the season because I am pretty high on Cameron Bynum. I think he's a high floor, just a really quality, free safety to have back there. Nick Ross, I think, can have a breakout season. I think all the ingredients are there for a breakout season. And I have some reservations about Wohler and Rodney Thomas, but I think they can be perfectly fine
Starting point is 00:29:47 in their role as well. So I'm curious to see how Louie and Remo use these guys and what really comes from the safety position in this upcoming season. But we want to thank you guys for making Lockdown Colts your first listen today and every day. Now for your second listen, check out Lockdown NFL Scouting.
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