Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: Time to Lose Their 'Type' of Quarterback

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's safe to say that the Indianapolis Colts have a type at quarterback, but the legends of old don't just fall off trees. They need to get with the times and follow the trend of the NFL to find their next quarterback. It's a Colts quarterback episode today on Locked on Colts. Let's get to it. You are Locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team, every day. Today's episode is sponsored by SimpliSafe Home Security.

Starting point is 00:00:59 With Fast Protect technology exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24-7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There's no safe like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com slash LockedOnNFL to learn more. Alright, this is Jake Arthur joined by Zach Hicks as always. And you know the two of us from Hhoehuddle.com. Today, we're going to dive into why the Colts need to ditch their stale old pocket passer prototype for a quarterback and fall in line with where the NFL is heading, and that's mobile quarterbacks. Zach actually put out a great piece on Monday morning about why the NFL is kind of moving

Starting point is 00:01:40 to this newer archetype at quarterback and why that is actually the new low floor quarterback it always used to be that the safe dumpy pocket passer was the guy who was considered you know he was the safe bet to do something in nfl but that's kind of fallen by the wayside uh zach explained that in that piece and we're kind of going to go in depth in that today as well. So of course, the Colts are a shining example of needing to do this. You know, owner Jim Irsay very much, and for good reason, romanticizes the Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck eras. You know, those guys were special quarterbacks. By design, they were pocket passers. Andrew Luck can move around a little bit more, like at his heart that's you know he was a great pocket passer you know we've seen Phillip Rivers Matt Ryan Carson Wentz could add Lib a bit but in general that's kind of been their type has been the the classic pocket passer and

Starting point is 00:02:39 we've seen this season why with Matt Ryan that's not always a great idea. You need a guy that can kind of transcend a poor offensive line no matter what's coming at him. Because when you can't really move, your offense totally stalls. The Colts are 4-8-1. Matt Ryan has had a lot of huge issues this year. He's near the bottom of the league, quarterback rating, ESPN's QBR. He's got the most turnovers. He's nearly got the most sacks. If he would have

Starting point is 00:03:05 started every game, he would have the most sacks. On Monday, Jeff Saturday did come out and say the plan is for Matt Ryan to continue to be the starting quarterback and Nick Foles will be the backup. So that's something we talked about last week is what will the Colts do at quarterback moving forward? It seems it will still be the same old stuff personally i'm just gonna wait and i'll believe it when i see it because we we've seen some things kind of shift last minute with this team in the the jeff saturday era but zach let's uh let's finally get to you now that i'm i'm not being such an airbag um so you you put out you put out this piece today again why there's a rise in the mobile quarterback and why they truly are the ones that are safe and not boom or bust. Yeah, I mean, I think we just got to look at the recent trends to kind of understand where the NFL is going.

Starting point is 00:03:57 And, you know, I always hear all these people say, oh, the last 10 years, which quarterbacks have won the Super Bowl? It's all been the pocket passers, which, yes, the last 10 years are important. We can't ignore what past history tells us. But I'm more concerned about the next 10 Super Bowls than I am about the last 10 Super Bowls. You know, I want to win the next 10. I can't win the past 10 ones. And you have to follow the trends of the NFL, follow what's hitting in drafts and which quarterbacks are finding success to understand how to, again, replicate that success in the NFL. And right now, these mobile quarterbacks are the ones that are hitting.

Starting point is 00:04:30 Now, again, just to kind of take a step back, if I had to classify quarterbacks, I would do three very, very simplistic classifications. You have the statue pocket passer, you know, your Peyton Mannings, you have your Tom Brady's, the guys where, yes, they can move around, they can manipulate the pocket. But at the end of the day, they're going to they're going to always be in that pocket. You know, if they're outside of the pocket, something bad just happened in the in the backfield. Then you have the creative dual threats. You know, you have your Joe Burrows, you have your Justin Herbert's, you have your Pat Mahomes. Those are the guys who they can kind of do it all they can survive and thrive in the pocket, but they can also create outside the pocket.

Starting point is 00:05:07 And then you have your scramblers. You have your Lamar Jackson, your Jalen Hurts. Josh Allen, I think, would fall under this, even though he's gotten a lot better as a passer. These are the guys that I'm looking at as being the high floor guys because as we've seen, again, creative dual threat is what you want to be. You want creative dual threat. You want Justin Herbert.

Starting point is 00:05:24 You want Pat Mahomes. But if you can't be that, you should swing for the mobile guy, swing for the scrambler. Don't swing for the pocket passer, you know, move up in the draft for a Justin Fields, not for a Mac Jones. That's kind of exactly where I am going with this article. It's not that, you know, pocket passers are completely dead and mobile quarterbacks always hit. It's just, you've got to play the odds that now mobile passers, if we look at the last couple of drafts, they're the high floor and the high ceiling option where pocket passers are missing at a high rate. And even if they are hitting, you're getting a low end starter. I mean, I think in that article, you guys, again, can read the article there on SI Colts, on Fan Nation Colts. I had, I think, eight quarterbacks that had averaged under 10 rushing yards a game in college.

Starting point is 00:06:17 You know, guys like Will Greer, Kyle Trask, Josh Rosen, Dwayne Haskins, you know, guys since 2018. And only two of them are still starters, and that's Mac Jones and Davis Mills. And honestly, I feel like we can say neither of them are going to be starters next year, or at least maybe just Mac Jones will be a starter next year, because Davis Mills is probably going to have a creative dual threat guy drafted ahead of him this season. Then if we look at the mobile, the scrambler guys, the guys who average over 30 yards rushing per game in college, you have your Josh Allen, your Lamar Jackson, your Jalen Hurts, those type of guys who are all hitting and playing at MVP levels or have won MVPs in the past, the only guys who aren't still starters in those groups are Kellen Mond, who yes, he is not going

Starting point is 00:06:50 to be a success in the NFL, and Malik Willis, who is in his rookie season and might take over for Ryan Tannehill next year in Tennessee. We are seeing these mobile quarterbacks hit at a much higher rate, and a lot of that is because of the way the NFL is going. The NFL is basically for offense to succeed in the NFL nowadays. It's all about spacing. Defenses know this. That's why they're sitting in that Vic Fangio too high safety. They want to limit the explosive plays, limit the spacing, condense everything, and make you go 15, 16 plays down the field and be perfect to score.

Starting point is 00:07:23 The way that offenses can combat that is having a creative athletic mobile quarterback because you have a plus one in the run game. So if you're going to sit those two safeties back there, you're going to sit them back there and prevent anything over the top. Well, I'm going to spread you out with this quarterback that can run along with my inside running game. I'm going to stretch your defense as wide as possible, and I'm going to attack you in multiple ways. Then when you bring that safety down in the box, these quarterbacks can beat you by scrambling. They can beat you by, you know, having the wide receivers more isolated because defenses either have to run zone or they have to run a spy. You know, there are so many

Starting point is 00:07:57 ways that mobile quarterbacks are just set up for more success where pocket passers, which we're going to talk about in segment two, everything has to be perfect around them for them to be successful. And when you're talking about guys being drafted high, or guys like the Colts, where the Colts are a very imperfect team, mobile quarterbacks can raise the floor of your entire team, because even when things aren't perfect around them, they can still make things happen by scrambling, by having QB runs, and having those design plays like that, where you're not going to get that with a pocket passer like a Matt Ryan. And we have seen that this year when everything's falling apart around Matt Ryan.

Starting point is 00:08:32 Matt Ryan hasn't always been awful, but because he's such that stationary pocket passer, he can't create and make things happen with everything falling around. So yeah, the mobile quarterback, I'm not new in this analysis. I'm not the first guy to say this. Ben Solak of the Ringers has been saying this for years. A lot of the best sports writers have been saying this for years. But I am finally on board. These last week or so, I've really been digging into it where you can look at all the data.

Starting point is 00:08:57 You can look at all the analysis. You can look at why this is happening. But mobile quarterbacks are taking over the NFL. I don't know if this is going to last forever, but it's a trend that you don't want to be behind on. You don't want to keep going to pocket passers and go. You don't want to look at 10 years ago and say, oh, I want to be that. When 10 years from now going in the future, we can look back and be like, oh, man, all these mobile quarterbacks are the reasons why offenses are having success. So you want to be ahead of the times, not behind the times. That's why I think moving to a mobile pastor is more successful right now. Yeah. And you only mentioned some of the highlight guys, like there, there's several others like Kyler Murray was a top pick Baker Mayfield. That's not as bread and butter, but he can get out in extend plays. Dak Prescott Trevor Lawrence,

Starting point is 00:09:41 like the NFL is now like chock full of guys who can at least keep plays alive. And I think you're right. Like by, by the time we look at it, you know, five years from now or something, the traditional pocket passer is going to be a dinosaur. Like if Tom Brady weren't still around guys, like a couple of guys like that, like it just wouldn't be really a thing anymore. So I think you're, I think you're spot on. I think it's definitely moving towards guys who, if they aren't picking up a bunch of yards on their own, like they're at least keeping drives alive with the, you know, they'll get you 20 yards a game or something, you know, those types of guys are throughout the NFL. Right.

Starting point is 00:10:21 Again, and here, I know, I know that you have know that you have to move this along, but just again, there's three classifications here, I think. And again, very simplistic classifications. You can probably break this into 30, but you have your creative dual threats and you have your mobile quarterbacks. Those are the two that are dominating the NFL right now. The pocket passers, it's really just a couple guys. You know, Jared Goff is having a decent season.

Starting point is 00:10:43 Kirk Cousins is having a solid season. The corpse of Tom Brady is kind of doing some things. But outside of that, there's really not many pocket passers that are finding success. We're seeing some of them struggle too. We saw Matt Ryan struggle this year. Mack Jones and Davis Mills have had their struggles. These are guys who are traditional pocket passers and are not finding success where even the young guys who are mobile or the creative dual threats, those are the guys that are getting, that are just hitting right now. So you, again, you want to be ahead of this trend, not behind it. You don't want to, you know, go back to the times of old and get caught, you know, just kind of lost in the dust there.

Starting point is 00:11:19 You want to keep moving with the times and be ahead of trends. And the trend right now is these mobile athletic quarterbacks who never got a shot in the past. They're finally getting their shots and they're being really successful right now. Yeah. And it's, it's not to say, just bring in these types who, these guys who can only run, because that's a big concern people have is the mobile guys break down sooner.

Starting point is 00:11:40 They, and they don't know how to pass by the time they can't run anymore. Yada, yada. It's no, you want to get a guy who's capable of passing as well. That's not what your argument is. But there are these special types of guys who can do both and at the very least get a guy who, like you said, are scramblers. It's usually a safe bet on that. And speaking of bets, this episode is sponsored by BetOnline. BetOnline.net is your number one source for sports betting info, stats, news, and analysis.

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Starting point is 00:12:47 doing things outside the pocket or just manipulating the pocket what have you so what you know why is this a dying breed now what's kind of caused these guys to to fall to the wayside yeah so there's there's two main factors and again i'm going to go on a long tangent here so jake just sit back relax you listeners get used to my voice because i'm just gonna be kind of going off here but the first one is look the art of the scramble and and just sack negation in general is so so valuable in today's nfl and to kind of point out you know to add more context what i'm about to say please go read ben solak's article with the ringer. When the Colts made the change to Sam Ellinger, he wrote just a wonderful article on why the Colts made that change, why you have to bet on the scrambling quarterback over the stationary

Starting point is 00:13:33 pocket passer, because at the end of the day, scrambles have a higher EPA per play than drop back passes. You know, we're seeing, I think it was 0.508 epa per play so points added per play on scrambles and it's 0.212 or something like that on on drop back passes and again this was a couple weeks ago so i'm sure the numbers have changed a little bit but we're seeing guys create big plays through scrambling because it hurts defense you know it's something where the defense is dropped back and covered so they can have everything covered up and the scramble is something that's not accounted for. And if they do account for it, then it opens up more space,

Starting point is 00:14:08 and we're going back to the whole spacing thing on the backside. So that's what the mobile quarterback can do. The mobile quarterback can gain yards through scrambles. And another thing that Ben mentioned in his wonderful article was that, you know, drives that have a sack in it, you know, where offense is getting sacked on a drive, are I think four times more likely to end in no points. You know, if you have a sack on it, where your offense is getting sacked on a drive, are I think four times more likely to end in no points. If you have a sack on the drive, which makes sense,

Starting point is 00:14:29 you don't even need the analytics to say that. If your offense is getting sacked on a drive, you're probably not going to score. Well, when you have a mobile quarterback, they can negate those sacks. They can turn an eight to 10-yard loss into a 20-yard gain with just a snap second. They can be down the field before you even know it. And they're, again, they're turning huge losses into chunk explosive plays. Pocket passers can't do either of these things. You know, if they're scrambling, they're not gaining many yards. They're not turning those into first downs.

Starting point is 00:14:58 You know, third downs are when scrambles most happen. And these pocket passers are not going to scramble for 10 yards. You know, they're not going to, except for Matt Ryan on that 140 something yard run. That will never be repeated right there. That was phenomenal. But they're not turning these negative plays that could be sacks. They're not turning pressures into first downs. They are throwaways or it's turning into interceptions and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:15:19 So that is a huge reason why the pocket passer is kind of dying in favor of the mobile quarterback because mobile quarterbacks can cover up a lot of mistakes and they can turn negative plays into positive plays and that's a huge aspect to have the other thing here is when I'm going to talk about precision versus accuracy as a quarterback precision is the the ability to put the ball wherever you want it to go you know so if if a ball needs to be a back shoulder pass you're putting that exactly where it needs to be if you need to be leading your receiver into a tight zone coverage, you're leading that receiver perfectly, right? So that's precision. Pocket passers have to be precise. You know, if you're going to be someone who can't threaten the defense

Starting point is 00:15:58 with your legs, you're going to have a lot less space to work with in the secondary. Defenses can run a variety of coverages. They can run man coverage with too high. They can drop a robber inside. They can really just focus and bottle up those receivers. So you have to be so precise with great velocity to beat these really fast athletic defenses when they can run a variety of coverages. Now, when you jump over to mobile quarterbacks,

Starting point is 00:16:21 they just have to be accurate. Accurate is just getting the ball in the vicinity of where it needs to go. That's why when people look at quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, again, Josh Allen's a great example of this. These are not the most precise quarterbacks in the world. Every single pass is not going to be like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, where it is in the perfect spot every single time. It just needs to be in the general vicinity because there are so much more space to work about. There's so much more space out there. Lamar Jackson, watch any drawback

Starting point is 00:16:49 that he has. You have contained rushers on the outside to give him time in the pocket. You have a middle linebacker coming up. If he even takes one step in that backfield, you have the whole defense staring at him because they're terrified of his ability to run. He could turn any run into a 60, 70-yard run. Because of that, there's a lot more single coverage or there's just really loose zones in the back end. So there is just more space available. So these quarterbacks don't have to be as precise. They just have to get the ball to those open windows, get the ball in the general vicinity, and then your receivers have so much more space to work with it after the catch. Pocket passers, everything, again, has to be perfect.

Starting point is 00:17:26 They have to have the protection. They have to be precise. They can't turn potential negative plays into positive plays. So we're seeing an NFL where there's a lot of imperfection on offense. And I'm not saying back in the day there wasn't. But we're seeing so much where you need someone who can cover up the imperfections or can make things happen despite imperfections on your offense. And mobile passers can do that. Pocket passers, again, everything has to be in rhythm, on time, and precise.

Starting point is 00:17:54 Just like what Matt Ryan said when he first came here this offseason. You know, we're teaching them timing. We're teaching them everything that needs to be precise and all this. And you need to be here when, you know, in the count two, because I'm going to get the ball out to you. If it's off by even a millisecond, it turns into a turnover or it turns into an incomplete pass. That's not the case with mobile passers. It doesn't have to be that precise because there's always that threat of them beating you at their legs. So there's just more space available. So yeah, for pocket passers, the reasons why they're dying is just they again

Starting point is 00:18:25 everything has to be perfect and when you're asking that of a rookie quarterback if you're asking that of davis mills if you're asking that of josh rosen who went into that that arizona season you know they're not going to be able to make that work because nothing is going to be perfect around them so it's hard to just kind of keep everything uh going for the pocket passer where you look at guys like Josh Allen you know when Josh Allen went to the Bills when in his rookie season and even his second season they were not that great of a team you know and he did not complete many passes but because he always had that threat of running the ball and because he added production in the red

Starting point is 00:19:00 zone by running the ball by creating yards that way he was still able to find success and even got the Bills to the playoffs his second year and And then obviously they got Stephon Diggs and he became a near MVP candidate. But yeah, no, these Russian quarterbacks, they just raise that floor of your offense to where your offense doesn't have to be perfect. Your offense can be very flawed, but still find success. And then when they bring in stud playmakers like an A.J. Brown in Philadelphia, like Stephon Diggs in Buffalo, that's when you see these offenses really take that next step. And that, that just screams Colts to me. Cause I mean, they are so flawed in other areas outside of quarterback. And again, if the offensive line and everything around Matt Ryan

Starting point is 00:19:40 was at a higher level from day one, this season, maybe things would have been a little different. But we've seen you add chaos into this offense and they get leaky. It's not going to work. It's probably a reason some people think Carson Wentz would have done better in this offense, which might be the case. I mean, I'm not turning this into a Carson Wentz thing.

Starting point is 00:20:03 But it's because Carson has that ability to buy time with his legs. He has the huge arm, things like that. I mean, look at some of the losses or non-wins that the Colts have had. A lot of it, there's been critical moments with the opposing quarterback being able to do things with their legs. I mean, Davis Mills wasn't anything, but Jeff Driscoll came in for a specialized design run and got a critical first down in the second half. Trevor Lawrence has become just a magician in the pocket, avoiding pressure. Ryan Tannehill surprisingly didn't do much, but Taylor Haneke had almost 30 yards and a touchdown. You know, he bought time with that Terry McLaurin play. Jalen play jalen hurts of course 86 yards in

Starting point is 00:20:46 that that game well the big here the biggest one from someone i was talking about about this is the philadelphia eagles lose to indianapolis colts if jalen hurts doesn't have that running ability because that red zone play what third down you know a whole colts defense parts like the red sea and he runs up the middle for a touchdown. I mean, that's what a mobile quarterback can do is you can be selling out for the pass. You can be selling out wide and rushing the passer. But because of that added dual threat ability, it just hurts your defense that much more. What does Matt Ryan do in that situation?

Starting point is 00:21:20 It's just the pocket passers just are not as versatile and they don't raise that floor for your, for your offense. And that's really what I'm getting at with this article is it's not that every mobile quarterback is going to be Jalen hurts. It's going to be Josh Allen, but these quarterbacks are raising the floor of offenses. They're creating explosive plays and they're just doing more for the overall game than, than pocket passers. So guys coming up, we're going to talk about some quarterbacks in this upcoming draft that kind of fit this mobile quarterback trend that I'm talking about. But first, this episode is brought to you by PrizePix. The Colts have a tempting matchup this

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Starting point is 00:22:37 PrizePix will give you $100 if you deposit $100. If you deposit $50, PrizePix will also give you $50. Don't forget to enter promo code LOCKEDON at signup for an instant deposit match up to $100. All right, Jake, since you're the big draft guy, I'm just going to shoot this to you. No, I'm just kidding. I know you haven't looked too much at the draft quarterbacks. But have you seen some of the trends on Twitter and stuff like that? You know, which quarterbacks everyone's kind of pushing for right now?

Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. The Colts' Twitter, at least, is very Anthony Richardson heavy right now. Everyone, obviously, Bryce Young would be the bell of the ball. But the Colts would have to go fully all-in, and the Houston Texans would have to allow that to happen within the division. Right. No, from what I can see, all these guys can do a little this, a little that with their legs. I can't think of anyone who has really caught chatter just being a classic guy.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, so it's going to come off a little hot takey, and I'm not trying to mean it that way, but for the sake of the argument that I was making that article and in all the context of everything I just said the last 20 minutes, you guys basically got full 20 minutes of me rambling. So in the context of everything I'm saying, I think a player like Anthony Richardson has a higher floor than a quarterback like CJ Stroud. And I'm not saying that currently right now,

Starting point is 00:24:04 Anthony Richardson from Florida is a better quarterback than CJ Stroud. And I'm not saying that currently right now, Anthony Richardson from Florida is a better quarterback than CJ Stroud of Ohio State. CJ Stroud from Ohio State has been phenomenal for Ohio State the last couple of years. He's basically like a point guard there at quarterback. But I think the parameters for him to find success in the NFL is going to be much harder than someone like Anthony Richardson. Richardson can come in from day one and he can give you 500, 600 yards rushing, you know, in year one. You know, if he were to start year one, he might be a 48% passer. It might be terrible, but he's already going to give you 500, 600 yards rushing because he is a six foot five, 240 pound guy who runs four, four. You know, you can use him so much in the

Starting point is 00:24:46 run game. You can use them scrambling that he's going to give you that many yards already where someone like CJ Stroud, if he goes to this indie team right now, you know, the way that India has given up pressures and sacks, how productive is he? Can you even guarantee the 500 yards that Richardson's going to get, you know, just rushing just rushing the ball you know this is a quarterback in CJ Stroud where he is a very very accurate passer great touch thrower but because everything he does has to be within structure and within the pocket that scares me compared to someone like Richardson where again this is the archetype that's hitting Anthony Richardson's archetype of the running quarterback that is still developing as a passer, this is hitting constantly. Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson is the biggest one. Justin Fields. I mean, Daniel Jones even. Daniel Jones this year has been a

Starting point is 00:25:36 solid starting quarterback. These are quarterbacks that can run and can run well, and they're turning into better passers because that floor that they have as a runner is adding value early on where a guy like CJ Stroud if he goes to the wrong situation again this happens everywhere no matter where these quarterbacks go if they go to the wrong situation they're going to fail but I think there's so many more parameters that this drought needs to be successful he can still be successful I think there is a good quarterback there I like CJ Stroud but I think he just needs so many more things to go right than a player like Anthony Richardson. So that's why, for instance, why I'm going to have Richardson higher than Stroud and why I like Richardson's potential so much, because, again, you're going to get guaranteed production the second he steps on the field, maybe not in the passing game,

Starting point is 00:26:20 but you're going to add so much to your offense just by having that threat of him out there. So that's one of the mobile guys I'm looking at and a couple other guys just so I have more of a list for you guys to look at. Jaden Daniels from LSU, quarterback formerly from Arizona State, went over to LSU this year, had a really, really productive season for the Tigers and was huge in their victory over Alabama. If he ends up declaring for this draft, that's another guy to watch. Malik Cunningham from Louisville also fits that running archetype. Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA. I think this guy is Tyler Huntley 2.0. If you guys like Tyler Huntley, go watch Dorian Thompson Robinson. Super fast, super athletic, adds a lot of production scrambling. Probably not a starter in the NFL. I don't think his arm is phenomenal but

Starting point is 00:27:05 like he he is a good athletic quarterback but uh those are like the more those are like the running quarterbacks you know of the guys who are kind of more the hybrids dual threat you got Bo Nix from from Oregon even though I think he's going to end up going back I think NIL is going to give him way too much money so I think he's going to end up going back to college uh Will Levis from from Kentucky kind of fits the bill there Bryce Young like you said from Alabama I think is kind of in that Joe Burrow Sean Watson type of mold where more of a pocket passer but can thrive at outside of structure but yeah there's some other guys to look at there I'm sure there's even more you know

Starting point is 00:27:40 I could just go on listen Clayton Toon from from Houston I think has some some really good ability as an improviser and does some good things inside and outside the pocket so yeah I mean this is a good quarterback class it's a deep quarterback class but overall I mean I'm looking at guys like Anthony Richardson with what he can do from day one maybe not on the football field but the second that he steps on the football field you're getting guaranteed production in the run game and he's going to open up your offense so much. That's why I'm high on Richardson. That's why I'm going to be high on Jaden Daniels. If he declares this,

Starting point is 00:28:10 that ability is so, so important today. And again, we're seeing this archetype hit over and over and over again. How long before you guys get on the trend? You know, again, I'm not saying that this is a guaranteed hit,

Starting point is 00:28:24 but in a, in a, in a profession, in a league where there's so many what ifs and there's so many things that we just don't know. If you're seeing a trend continually hit, you've got to jump on board and you've got to start going that way, even if it ends up falling in your face. Swing on that upside. Maybe you can get a Josh Allen. Maybe you can get a Jalen Hurts or a Lamar Jackson because these are the best quarterbacks in football, and it's the best way you can compete with a Pat Mahomes. You can't compete with a Pat Mahomes with a pocket passer. Jared Goff is not going to go toe-to-toe with Pat Mahomes, but Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson can.

Starting point is 00:28:58 Those are guys that can compete with the best of the best. So, yeah, that's why I'm high on Richardson and Jane Daniels and stuff like that. Those are some guys to watch in the draft. And you guys can definitely message me on Twitter and stuff like that for, for, you know, other draft names. I'm sure I'll be throwing out so many more names as we get closer to the draft.

Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah. Now that you mentioned that, it does seem like those type of guys have a higher hit rate in the first round and, you know, early second round. Like think about a lot of people have talked about quarterbacks being riskier than you expect in the first round but when you look at those guys deshaun watson lamar jackson was a 30 30 second overall pick those guys they do have honestly now seriously they do have a higher hit rate it seems i'd have to put it on an excel sheet since i'm an old man and look at it but yeah

Starting point is 00:29:45 it's it does it's in the article guys it's in the article go check out the article uh nine pocket passers since 2018 that i put in there only two are still starters and then of the or sorry i think it was eight pocket passers since 2018 and then nine mobile quarterbacks since 2018 of the nine mobile quarterbacks seven are still starters of the eight pocket passers only two are still starters it's just the archetype is hitting more these mobile quarterbacks are developing and they're bringing up the floor of offenses so yeah I think the best way for the you know the Colts to really turn this team around is to go get your mobile passer go get a guy who can create with the legs and and just open up the spacing of the offense because everything

Starting point is 00:30:24 has been so condensed this season with Matt Ryan at quarterback. Yeah. And of course you might have to wait on the passing, like you mentioned, but I don't, I don't think there there's several teams that don't regret that, you know, Lamar Jackson wasn't super polished coming out, you know, Justin Fields where he's can be very accurate at times, but we're still waiting on the, the arm to catch up to, to the running. And, you know, sometimes you see a drastic change, like the Carolina Panthers invested in Jimmy Clawson and then Cam Newton the next year flipped a huge switch. The Cardinals going from Josh Rosen to Kyler Murray, that flipped a switch. Like you could just see quick changes and it just happens with bringing that element to the offense. Like they

Starting point is 00:31:05 could be totally different types of quarterbacks, but you bring that element of scaring a defense because your quarterback can run and it can, it can really change things. And the Colts do have some items in their offense that I think could adapt to that. Like they've always invested in, in highly athletic players. So while their quarterback often could be statuesque, they have a bunch of athletes all around them that could keep up with that type of player. Yeah. Yeah. And just for more reading guys, again, go read my article there on horseshoehuddle.com where I kind of covered

Starting point is 00:31:37 everything I talked about. Ben Solak's article from the ringer. I think it's on, it's basically just type in Ben Solak, Sam Ellinger, and you'll find the article. Daltoner wrote one as well for pro football network and then i think our guy carter carter donick uh wrote one i think last year for the draft network there's a lot of great readings on this subject and why the scrambler and why the mobile quarterback is so effective nowadays so i definitely highly recommend you guys go check that out just so you can see i'm not the only one on this hill but j you can close this out here I don't think I have too much more rambling to go on today nope I'm all good I enjoyed that one just to sit back and relax we'll be back with you guys

Starting point is 00:32:13 tomorrow to keep talking about the latest on the Colts as well as dive into their matchup with the Vikings the week is kind of condensed because the NFL just had to flex this game into Saturday instead of Sunday so yeah we'll definitely have more for you the next few days. Definitely. Make sure you guys are following us on social media at lockdown Colts at Jake Arthur, NFL at Zach Hicks too, on Twitter.

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