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Starting point is 00:00:43 Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off of your first purchase. What's up, everybody? This is Jake Arthur and Zach Hicks of HorseshoeHuddle.com. And it is Monday, so that means we are mock drafting again. And with just a couple weeks until the draft, we're going to start to throw some wrinkles into this thing to try and cover all bases. And today we are mandating that we have to trade up in the first round. So that's going to kind of obviously cost us some of our later picks. We'll explain further once we get there. So I'll go ahead and unveil the red carpet to you, Zach. So first round Colts, obviously sitting at pick 15. What are you thinking are some areas they might be able to strike ahead of them? Yeah. So I think when you're

Starting point is 00:01:30 looking at a potential trade up in this draft, like I don't, I don't think there's going to be this big trade up to number four or number five overall for a certain wide receiver prospect that everyone wants the Colts to move up for. But I do think if the Colts are going to make any type of move to trade up in round one, it would be to around either nine, 10 or 11. I think nine with the bears, 10 with the jets or 11 with the Vikings Cardinals, whoever that's going to be. Um, I do think that those are your, are your likely destinations there. Cause obviously you don't want to go up like one or two spots. You're not really gaining much there and giving up extra picks for it. Uh, but you don't want to go up too far far you're giving up extra first rounders and stuff like that so I think that's

Starting point is 00:02:08 the sweet spot if a player they like falls there but they don't think that player is going to be there at 15 so realistically who are those players going to be I narrowed it down to a couple and the player I went with in this mock and I moved up to number nine so I moved up to number nine with Chicago Bears and I traded my what 15th overall pick in two thirds. So next year's third and this year's third. I'm not going to be too specific with the trade because obviously it could be a lot more than that come realistically. I just, you know, that's close enough in value for this exercise.

Starting point is 00:02:39 But I moved up to nine with the Bears, gave them some more capital, gave up a top 100 pick in that third rounder and took wide receiver Roma dunes a from Washington dunes a might be the cleanest prospect in this entire class. I mean, when you look at the testing, the production, the, the way he won in college, uh, just, you know, the, the tenacity and the way that he plays the game, everything about his game just says safe player with high upside. Because again, he's got the athletic upside to be fantastic in the NFL. Like this isn't a player where, you know, I'm looking at him being like a high floor type guy only.

Starting point is 00:03:12 He can be a really good wide receiver one in football, but you know, you're already going to get someone who's going to be productive because of all the intangibles he brings. Big time leader there at Washington, highly productive and one of the most efficient offenses in the entire college football landscape. He did it for years. There was the alpha dog in that offense. Um, and you can win in multiple ways. You know, you can win in contested catch. He can win by separating. He can win with his body control and smoothness, uh, just a really, really good player. And if he happens to fall to nine, the bears only have four picks in this class or five picks in this class. After, this class after the first overall selection. They probably want to retool and get a couple more selections later

Starting point is 00:03:49 in the draft. This is a really prime opportunity for the Colts to move up ahead of the Jets, who are kind of going all in with Aaron Rodgers and get another playmaker for this offense. So I think Roma Dunze is a great fit, Indy. I think he fits a lot of what Chris Ballard likes. He's built a Ballard wide receiver one this year. And I think that that's kind of everything this team is looking for. So Roma Dunze, I moved up to number nine, gave up 1582 and next year's third to Chicago to get Roma Dunze. And honestly, look, if the Colts did this come draft day, I'd be pretty happy with it because I'm a big fan of a Dunze. I think he can be a legit game changer for this offense.

Starting point is 00:04:25 But what do you got, Jake? Who are you moving up for and where are you moving to? Yeah, I like that pick for you. I think that's one of the sweet spots. You know, I don't like you. I don't think they're going up top five or anything, but around that nine to 12 region seems like a good spot. Chicago, a team that obviously might want to move back. So I'm getting a little chaotic with it. So mine is like a trade within a trade. So I have the Vikings going from 11 up to with Arizona there in the top five. So it's going to be Arizona sitting at 11, and then I have the Colts going up to 11 because I think Arizona is going to try to gather assets like we know

Starting point is 00:05:04 Monte Austin Ford is interested in doing. So the Colts up to 11 from 15 with Arizona by way of Minnesota, and they're going to get Brock Bowers tied in out of Georgia. So just like you with the Dunes, I think there is just this small core of players. This is a good draft to have some actual elite players in it. And Adunze, I think, is one of those players that would be worthy of trading up for, especially considering you could probably get him near that bottom of the top 10. But with Bowers, I think that's another player that makes so much sense for the Colts that

Starting point is 00:05:40 it's one of those ones you run the card up. You look at Adunze, Bowers, Quinion Mitchell, Dallas Turner. All these guys fit so well that it's just a no-brainer. Yeah, I think – sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. But I think when it comes to Chris Bowers' philosophy, I think if he's going to make a trade-up, it's going to be for either an impact pass rusher or an impact pass catcher for his team. I don't think it would be for anything else. So like Quinion, I don't think he'd trade up it's going to be for either an impact pass rusher or an impact pass catcher for his team or I don't think it would be for anything else so like Quinion I don't think he'd trade

Starting point is 00:06:08 up for but I think the three guys are looking at if the Colts do trade up are Dallas Turner Brock Bowers and then Roma Dunes they I mean again if Marvin Harrison falls to like seven or eight sure you could see that but I do think those are the big three that we're looking at so sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you there I thought you were taking a break were taking a break there, but I just want to say that like Dallas Turner is definitely in the mix here. If the Colts do trade up. That fits because in this tenure, there's been a couple of guys I know before they strongly considered moving up for, and they were of those positions.

Starting point is 00:06:38 So that I think you nailed that there, but we've talked about getting explosive on offense all off season. Obviously, Chris has talked about it. Shane, I've talked talked about it but i don't think that has to be a receiver i think if you add someone so dynamic with the ability to stretch the field and create yak from the tight end position where you can also move them all around the lineup i think that makes all the sense in the world um he's he's another good kid you don't have to worry about if you trade up, you obviously want to make sure it's someone who has a good head on their shoulders.

Starting point is 00:07:08 No concerns there. I think doing this is a wise investment. And you mentioned your trade capital as well. So I gave up the third this year and a fifth. That's what the trade draft value calculator says is best. So I think that could be done for moving up from 15 to 11 for a third and a fifth this year is probably doable yeah i think there was a comparable trade about two years ago i want to say it was the crystal lave trade with the saints and the commanders i think the commanders went from 11 to 16 the saints came up to 11 and it cost them a third and a fourth so I think that's exactly what the trade value would be it'd be like a third and a fifth maybe a third or fourth depending on

Starting point is 00:07:49 who's there but yeah those are some options for the Colts there like unfortunately you have to give up a top 100 pick in a draft where you need some some day one impact guys but you know is the difference between a Roma Dunzey slash Brock Bowers type of player so much bigger than a Brian Thomas player or a Quinion Mitchell or whoever could be there at 15 that it's worth giving up a potential other starter by giving up 82? That's something that we're going to throw to get a guy like a bowers or dallas turner or aroma dunze compared to just taking a brian thomas at 15 and rolling from there that i think that's a really great debate it's a debate that the colts are probably having right now yeah and i think another part of it that makes this so realistic is you just did a show about it we've talked about it recently you know their actions and free agency show that they're putting a lot on anthony richardson this year and what better can they

Starting point is 00:08:50 do than to go up and lock up someone to support him long term you know a tight end like that has always been a quarterback's best friend you know you already have a michael pitman jr who has been reliable no matter who is the quarterback, but Roma Dunze, a guy to even go further than that, and you have two guys long-term who can have that big of an impact, that is really doing well by your young, hopefully, franchise quarterback. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But coming up, guys, we're going to transition and talk about round two. We actually still have our round two picks, but we're going to transition and talk about round two. We actually still have our round two picks, but we're going to talk about who we selected there

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Starting point is 00:10:36 Download GameTime today. Last-minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. All right, so we are going into round two cause we still have those picks. So that's pretty nice. That's gotta make you feel great, right? You go up, you trade up just like just a few picks and get elite level players. And you still have in the, in the second round, this is a pretty, this is a pretty good draft where you're going to have capable first round players potentially available to you here in the top 50. So with that in mind,

Starting point is 00:11:09 you crossed a big need off the list already. What do you got for us in round two? Yeah. Before I make my selection here, if we were really doing a Chris Ballard type mock draft, there is no chance whatsoever. They'd be picking at 46 after trading up in round one. No,

Starting point is 00:11:23 no, no, no, no, no. You're going back no you're going back they're going back to like this like to 65 or something and picking up another third there's no chance that 46 is where they're picking if they move up in the first he likes those picks

Starting point is 00:11:34 if he like he'll trade up every now and then but if he trades up once he needs to counteract it by trading back like 10 other times to make sure he's still getting his picks uh later in the draft so look realistically we wouldn't be picking at 46. We stuck at 46 for this draft because we just didn't want to get too complicated with it. And I think this is a fascinating thing after the trade up because we only have one more top 100 pick left and we have needs to address on defense. This defense that was not great last year. So do you go safety?

Starting point is 00:12:02 Do you go corner? Do you go pass rusher? Personally, I went with safety. I went with Jaden Hicks, safety from Washington State, a guy who I think can play some single high, can play in the box. He can, you know, really good at running the alley, a physical player, former cornerback too. So he can, you know, come down and cover some tight ends. And I think just pairing him with a guy like Julian Blackman is a smart move for your secondary because you're adding two physical players that know how to tackle, that are comfortable playing either free or strong.

Starting point is 00:12:31 So it adds multiplicity to your defense and complexity. You can do a lot of pre-snap stuff and hide those guys. And then it opens up, you know, maybe Nick Cross to playing some more sub linebacker, playing some more rotational type stuff in the back end. If you want to take Julian Blackman out and have Hicks play some strong safety and you can put Nick Cross back at free, you know, you can do a lot of interesting things with them. Now, I know this kind of makes you a little bit redundant

Starting point is 00:12:53 with a lot of guys who, you know, like Hicks is not like this pure free safety. He can play some strong, he can play in the box as well. So it makes you a little redundant having a lot of guys like that, but having a couple of safeties who are big, athletic, fast, and can run defend at a high level, I think that's just a great thing to have in today's NFL defense. So Jaden Hicks, safety from Washington State, he's a guy I'm really high on.

Starting point is 00:13:16 I really like his fit in this Colts defense. And look, in a class that doesn't have many free safeties, I think Hicks has some of the better instincts in this class. So I'm willing to bet on that upside and that physicality with him to play over the top in this Colts defense so Jaden Hicks safety from Washington State maybe a little bit of a reach here at 46 but a big fan of his game and I think he can be a really good long-term starter in the NFL yeah no I like it and you know like you mentioned when you have those guys that can wear a lot of hats and they can blur those lines, you don't have to have as defined roles.

Starting point is 00:13:48 Like you don't have to have a pure free safety or strong because you have two reliable guys that can kind of do both. So I like that. I'm going to go with a guy at corner who can bring some of those similar aspects. And I am cheating. It's cheap a little bit because you picked him last week, I believe. But Max Melton from Rutgers, the corner, knowing that you don't have a third round pick in this, you got to get someone who can play a role early for you. Again, this is a guy who some project to nickel. He plays outside as well. Very athletic guy. He has passed all the tests athletically and performance-wise at the Senior Bowl. He fits the Colts very well. So you just got to do more to that.

Starting point is 00:14:33 The Colts added Julian Blackman at safety. That was great. You need another body there. But they haven't done anything to corner except for bring back their oldest player this offseason. And that's a player you need. Kenny Moore is critical to the secondary, but you need a little more. And I don't think you can wait until day three to do it.

Starting point is 00:14:52 So I like this here. We both brought in a couple of versatile pieces at each portion of the defensive backfield. Yeah. Yeah. And I think what's interesting about Max Melton, like, and I think I mentioned this last time we did mock draft Monday is I

Starting point is 00:15:04 think he can play some inside. He can play some outside as well. So again, it's a guy who can wear multiple hats for your defense and say he gets beat out in camp by Jalen Jones. He's going into year two in this system, has that inside track. Maybe Jalen Jones, your starter, maybe Dallas flowers even beats him out. Well, Max Melton's a four, three type guy. You can play some great gunner for your team.

Starting point is 00:15:22 So again, he's a guy who can wear multiple hats. You can do multiple things for you. And I think that's very valuable on day two of the NFL draft, especially in this draft where I don't think day two and day three are fantastically strong. Getting a guy like Melton, I think who can do multiple things for you is a big pick there in the top 50. But again, Jake, I do want to mention before we go into our third segment, where we talk about, you know, some of our options on day three, I think we're both sitting here loving what we got in round one and being happy with what we got around too.

Starting point is 00:15:50 But like, I feel like we're both going into this with like, Oh crap. I didn't take a corner. Like I don't have a corner. How did I not take a corner in the top 50 when the Colts desperately need a corner or, Oh man,

Starting point is 00:16:01 I didn't take a pass rusher when, again, we know Quitty and Dio Dango could be free agents after the season, probably need a pass or oh man i didn't take a pass rusher when again we know quitty and dio dango could be free agents after the season probably need a pass rusher and then for you vice versa you're sitting there and being like i didn't take a safety when ronnie thomas might have to start again next year so this is the this is the kind of push pull when you trade up in the first round is you lose that flexibility of your top 100 picks to where like and when you don't supplement in free agency right well that's that's another discussion that's a good point that's a

Starting point is 00:16:32 good point there jake but yeah when you don't use free agency and then when you trade up and don't have enough picks you have too many holes to plug them all it's great to plug that one hole in that first round with an elite player but can you plug all the little holes that are around when you don't have multiple top 100 picks we're going to talk about it in our next segment but like man it when you look at it it's a little bleak like oh man i really wish i could have got some more but maybe i trade some more next year picks to move up and not care about the future there yeah for me when i was looking at this and knowing what i did in the first round getting a pass catcher i knew i didn't have to get a receiver, even though that's been like a really hot target. I knew I got that explosive pass catcher.

Starting point is 00:17:12 So my next thing was, what defensive back do I get? Because I have to, even though I know edge is such a strong possibility in these first couple of days, I kind of flirted with that as well. I'm going to kick that can down the road, which we'll kind of get to a little bit but yeah i i thought getting a versatile defensive back was critical on day two when you've given up that that uh third round pick and again in real life the colts would recoup that somehow but yes the you know we here are about adapting and being chameleons and being versatile ourselves. So this is this is what we bring in. Yeah, right. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:17:50 Now, coming up, guys, we're going to talk about some day three options to supplement what we took already, because, again, we have holes still on the roster. So we need to look at day three long and hard here and try to figure out how we can still fix some of these holes with some options that might be there come actual draft day. But first, this show is sponsored by BetterHelp. What's the first thing you do if you had an extra hour in your day? Would you go for a run? Would you take a nap? Yes, yes, I would. I would definitely take a nap.

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Starting point is 00:19:17 betterhelp.com slash locked on. All right, Jake. So I did my homework. I grabbed a couple of day three guys for us at some of the positions that we lacked in those first one there. And I made sure to fill out some for you, too, just so you have, you know, a couple names in front. I never I never was good about getting to my homework. So that's good that you did that for me. You know what?

Starting point is 00:19:41 I think you knew most of these players. Luckily, I think I think I only surprised you with one. And I know you're going to throw in some other receivers that you like because, because you love a couple of the dudes that I didn't put there. But starting with me, you know, I'm looking at the guys I took, you know, I took a wide receiver. I took a safety. That's two of the four needs. I think the Colts need to address in this draft, but I'm still just, I'm struggling at corner. I'm struggling at defensive end. So a couple of names I listed here.

Starting point is 00:20:05 I think one is a big time sleeper that I actually did in my horseshoe huddle mock draft today. I think I took him in round five for the Colts in my horseshoe huddle one. Chigozi Anusium, cornerback from Colorado State. Shrine Bull standout. Ran a 4-3 this offseason. Really long physical corner. I think he's the best tackling cornerback in all of college football this past year. Really, really good tackler. Can maybe even play some safety if you

Starting point is 00:20:30 need him to, but I just want to add more competition to that cornerback room. And Anusium is the type of guy where I know I'm getting good run defense from the start. I know I'm getting a guy who can flip and drop into zone coverage, especially in this cover three scheme. And I just want more steady play behind the starters. Another corner I put on here, Elijah Jones, cornerback from Boston College, a player who's really used to that single high type scheme that Boston College runs. Now they run a little bit more press man there,

Starting point is 00:20:57 but Elijah Jones is a guy who's used to cover one, cover three type scheme. Stood out the senior bowl, had a good week there. I think he's like a six-year guy too. So out the senior bowl, had a good week there. I think he's like a six-year guy too. So he's really experienced, played a lot of football. Got better every single year in this past year was just fantastic for him at Boston College. So he was billed a Ballard cornerback one. Looks like he's going to be there on day three come draft day because of, again, just his age and his little bit, it's like slighter frame. But he's a guy who fits everything

Starting point is 00:21:24 there for the Colts. So look, all is not lost if the Colts don't take a corner in the top 100 it's a little bleak but I don't think it's all lost there uh there are a couple guys I like in a newsium and Jones are two of my guys there on day three for the Colts I did the mute thing and that is a problem that has plagued locked on Colts for the last week. Okay. So yeah, I think if you don't take that corner early, you can absolutely double dip later on because especially with how well they did picking guys last year, I think it could work out pretty well if you, if you took a couple of games, so that's good. Um, so all, uh, I'll start out with the guy who, uh, you brought to my attention today, uh Force Safety Trey Taylor.

Starting point is 00:22:06 This guy looks pretty impressive. I believe he was a Shrine Bull standout as well. He's got decent size. He's not too tall. He's not too short. He's perfectly compact for what I like in a physical safety, right around that 5'11", 6'0", or 5'11", 6'0", mark, around 200 pounds. This dude, big-time workout guy. He wears multiple hats.

Starting point is 00:22:30 So you can move him around the secondary, and he's very, very athletic. So you're probably not injecting that guy into your defense right away, but it looks like he's definitely got the smarts and the tools to fit in and gradually earn a little bit of playing time. Definitely seems like a special team standout for Brian Mason yeah yeah and then and Trey Taylor was also the Thorpe award winner last year for the best safety in all of college football so and being from Air Force and earning that award that to me that's a big deal like that that stands out quite a bit because you're used to that going to someone from Alabama or LSU.

Starting point is 00:23:05 It went to someone from Air Force. So another guy who a lot of people do know about. And this guy would endear himself to Colts fans big time. Malik Mustafa from Wake Forest. So this guy cleans up all the dirt in front of him. Like this is a guy within the box. Everything that's going to happen in front of him, screen passes,

Starting point is 00:23:27 runs the outside, whatever the dude is trying to remove you from the football and try just trying to kill the play no matter what. So think of what Kari Willis used to do coming up and slamming guys up, you know, in the box and everything. I get those vibes from him. I really like what he brings

Starting point is 00:23:45 to the table. And then offensive side of the ball, Bub Means is your guy. And I'll let you talk more about him because I know that's your day three receiver. But Luke McCaffrey has been really hot lately. And I'm, I'm almost curious if he is going to be there on day three. NFL, NFL circles really, really like him. I would not be surprised if he's a round three guy. Obviously, the bloodlines, Ed McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey, yes. But the dude is athletic. He had a strong showing at the Senior Bowl, former quarterback. So you kind of get both sides of the coin there from a receiver perspective. But he's a guy who has quietly boosted his stock quite a bit as well. I listened to the Move the Sticks podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks a lot, and they're

Starting point is 00:24:31 really high on him as well. And those are two guys who are very plugged into what the NFL likes. So that's definitely a guy to keep an eye on. I think he fits the Colts really well. We just don't talk about him a lot. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think McCaffrey, you know, he doesn't really hit the explosive metrics that the Colts look for at wide receiver, but man, Chris Ballard loves himself a position change player. He loves them so much. I really want to pick his brain about it one day. Like, why do you take these guys who change positions? Next time you talk to him, he says ascending player. That's why he says he wants to get guys who are still developing in that position. To me, that says the ascending player.

Starting point is 00:25:09 But yeah, I mean, we'll talk to him before the draft. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's just a big thing for him. And then Bub means, you know, it's not that I love him particularly on film. I just love what he could be with his potential. And I think he can be a fantastic gunner too. I'm always looking for gunners at wide receiver, you know, the Ashton Doolin type mold.

Starting point is 00:25:26 And I think Bob means is one of those guys in this class. And then also two, two other names I put here for defensive end slash three texts. Again, we're looking at pass rushers. We're looking at potential quitty pay replacements or, or potential diode dang boat replacements. We don't know if they're both going to be here post 2025. I mean, we don't want to tell Ken in that, but you know, we don't,

Starting point is 00:25:50 we don't know if these guys are going to be here post 2025. I mean, we don't want to tell Ken in that, but we don't know if these guys are going to be here post 2025. But Jalex Hunt, defensive end from Houston Christian, is a guy that we've talked about a lot on here. Speaking of position change players, I want to say Jalex Hunt was a safety when he went to college, when he went into college. God, I love that. That is so EJ speed of him. I love it. Right. All right. And this, and again, we're talking about a guy with like 35 inch arms, 260 pounds, like really, really big,

Starting point is 00:26:10 sturdy defensive end. And look, his film is not perfect. There's, there's some room to improve, but it's that project type player. I said, Isaiah land,

Starting point is 00:26:17 Isaiah land was like that too. And the Colts are really high on his alien. Titus Leo was like that too. And the Colts are very high on Titus Leo. So it just looks like another type of guy that could add to the mix there. And then if you're looking for more of that Dio Dangbo type mold, that outside rusher that can move inside, John Marie Cromoa, or I think it's Croma from James Madison,

Starting point is 00:26:38 super, super long arms, like almost Dio Dangbo long arms. I think they're nearly 36 inches. Really good explosive metrics really good uh pre-draft testing uh did a lot of good things there james madison very productive as well just another player there on day three and obviously we could throw out a lot more defensive tackle types too like miles cole from texas tech we've talked about a ton on here he makes a lot of sense on day three i know if we're going back to wide receiver jake has a wide receiver crush that he's had since the senior bowl and ryanournoy. That's his guy right there. And he reminds me a lot of

Starting point is 00:27:09 Ashton Doolin. I think when you look at the production, you look at this, the pre-draft testing and the size, very, very Ashton Doolin. So the Colts. And you wrote about him today, check horseshoehuddle.com. There we go. Good, good shout out there, Jake. So you guys can check horseshoehuddle.com for that as well. But yeah, there's a lot of options that Colts could go with here on day three, but I do want to get your guys' thoughts here where, you know, if the Colts were to trade up in round one and lose that top 100 pick, and you're looking at some of these names that we threw out here, would you be okay with these names being your options to fill in the spots?

Starting point is 00:27:40 I mean, obviously the Colts might have to go back to free agency, which we don't know if they actually would do that in real life, but, you know, they might have to go back to free agency, which we don't know if they actually would do that in real life. But, you know, they might have to go back to free agency because in Jake's scenario, you know, you don't really have another safety. You have Nick Cross and Rodney Thomas try to get free safety. In my scenario, we got Jalen Jones and Dallas Flowers battling out for starting corner again. Is that OK? Like, is that sacrifice OK to have Roma Dunzey or to have Brock Bowers or to have Dallas Turner? Is that sacrifice okay? We're leaving that to you guys in the comments section.

Starting point is 00:28:10 Let us know because I think it's a really interesting debate because they need bodies at corner and safety. But look, it's Roma Dunzey. It's Brock Bowers. It's Dallas Turner. Like, I understand wanting to go up there and get those guys yeah uh that that is a very that that is just because i don't know people get so upset by the results of mock drafts even after the first couple rounds and i mean honestly us too i mean you you go on the mock draft simulators and some of the things that are still available there to you it's it's tough but now i i do think i do

Starting point is 00:28:46 think the colts probably regardless will go back to the well on on free agency and do something like even if they do address a couple positions i think they'll make a couple modest moves uh just because i i think that's just something that is in ballard's track record. But no, it's tough. That really gets me thinking. Because to them, those are blue chip players worth sacrificing a little bit of draft capital for. But I mean, I am, for this purpose, interested in hearing what the fans have to say.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Because Brock Bowers, I think you do that I think it's worth it uh Roma Dunzey as well especially like you mentioned how clean he is uh you're not going to go up high enough for Marvin Harrison and you know a Dunzey is just he's the safest he has the least concerns of you know of that little chunk so I I agree to me I think it's worth it and the Colts they would be like see we did take a swing can you guys shut up now so that'd be good yeah we might get sassy ballard in in the in the post draft if you love a good sassy ballard session that's always a good one oh yeah it's always fun there uh before we get out of here though guys i do want to remind you that the

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