Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts: What Must Be Accomplished in NFL Draft, with Rick Venturi

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Starting point is 00:00:57 What is up, everybody? I'm Jake Arthur of HorseshoeHuddle.com. And today we have got a very special guest. He's been a defensive coordinator for the colts browns saints and rams uh very close with bill belichick and nick saban uh has had a couple stints as an nfl interim head coach as well one of the melodic voices that you hear on the radio when you listen to colts games you'll get that here. And someone who makes me smarter every time I talk to him, let's roll out the red carpet for Coach Rick Venturi. What's up, Coach? How are you doing

Starting point is 00:01:30 today? Oh, Jake, I'm doing really good. Great to be on with you. And I do watch you and Zach all the time. And I'm not a big podcast guy, not because I don't necessarily believe in them. It's just when I do things on the air, whether it's a game or a draft, I always want them to be very organic. I want fans to hear exactly how I see it. And that doesn't make me right. That's for sure. But I always kind of like that. But I think you guys do your due diligence, both on a daily basis and put out a really, really good product product. So yeah a really, really good product. So, yeah, it's really good to be with you. That means a lot. We really appreciate it.

Starting point is 00:02:13 I mean, we try to be as accurate as possible and kind of shoot it straight how we can. But that's why we've got you here today as well. So today we're just going to kind of catch up with your general thoughts on the Colts approaching the draft and kind of their offseason. We'll go over what we think their biggest needs and things they need to accomplish approaching the draft and kind of their offseason. We'll go over what we think their biggest needs and things they need to accomplish in the draft still are. And then some guys on both sides of the ball that excite you. So let's start first on what we think their needs are and how you think they've addressed them so far this offseason. Well, the offseason has been, I call it the two peas.

Starting point is 00:02:45 It's been predictable in that, you know, we now have years and years of Chris Ballard. I mean, he isn't he's not going to be real aggressive and free agent. That doesn't make him bad or good. He's just not a big free agent spender. So, you know, that was, I think in some respects to be expected. I think number two, it was a, I call it a prevention off season. You know, there were several core guys that needed raises that all were very important parts of this team. And so I think to get them all signed is preventative in the sense that it prevents a big slide, you know, at nine and eight. I mean, we're not, it's not like we're talking about 14 and three here, you know, there are 44% of the NFL teams made the playoffs and we

Starting point is 00:03:40 weren't one. So there's a lot of work to be done. You know, I think it's acceptable in that sense that you, you don't take a step backwards, but the only thing that's I think you have to be careful with is the AFC is really on fire. I mean, you know, you know, Kansas city, Baltimore is not going anywhere. I think teams like the jets, the Steelers since he, with Burrow coming back, those teams have made big strides, and notwithstanding the Texans, who just blow me away.

Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm just absolutely shocked in their offseason, and you don't want to be looking uphill at them. I mean, they had a very good team in January. That game went down to a fourth and one, but they're a very good team. And they've added not only good players, but like five impact players. And so, you know, I think that's what the off season looked like. And so, you know, I just always have a little bit of a trouble because I just think that it's next to impossible to build a championship team without using every possible resource. I mean, that is trades. That is free agency.

Starting point is 00:04:51 And, yeah, I don't necessarily believe you have to break the bank there. And then obviously the draft. If you're a one trick pony, it's very difficult because the draft at its best, the guys that are the best Hall of Famers hit at 54% in the draft. And what I mean by hit is three years down the road, that player that hit is an impact guy, is a guy that makes a difference. Not just on your team, because you'll have core guys there all the time. So you're only at 54%. So if you're reduced down to building on the draft, it's next to impossible. For instance, okay. I mean, I'm going to talk about two of the biggest needs in my mind, which is explosive receiver outside

Starting point is 00:05:37 the number and a shutdown corner. Okay. Let's say in, let's say that in your, in in free agency, you would have been able to sign a Diggs or a Jefferson. Okay. I'm not saying you should have. I'm saying if you would, then when you get to the draft, your 15th pick can be the shutdown corner and you solve two problems. You can't solve two problems with number 15. Right. can't solve two problems with number 15. And when you go to number two and then particularly three and down, the impact goes down exponentially. And what happens a lot of times is you can build your core with those second

Starting point is 00:06:16 and third day guys, but after a while, you just replace them after three years with more second and third day guys. So we've had two, in my opinion, two big deals that he's done. Obviously it's a draft situation, but the trade for Buckner, which ended up being a first round draft choice, if you will. And then probably the best free agent acquisition that he made and, you know, who, who basically was highly visible was Gilmore.

Starting point is 00:06:45 Those two situations were probably the best, but not a lot. Now, when I look at this team and I have four question marks going into next season, and that's going to influence how I look at the draft and who I'm looking at and how I value people. Number one, number one question mark, are we explosive enough outside the numbers to take the pressure off JT and AR5? Are we? We haven't been. Number two, obviously the health and development of AR5. Number three, will Gus Bradley finally figure it out? 28th in the league, two years in a row, points given up. And that's all that matters. You can take all the statistics you want, points given up is everything.

Starting point is 00:07:38 And then number four is along with that, can these corners or corners that we bring in, can they hold up on the island week after week after week? I have those four question marks. So to me, in the draft, I would like to address them. Now, if you, this particular year, and you know this, you've studied it, if you're in the market for a wide receiver or an offensive lineman, high priority first round guys, you got to bust low. I mean, this is a tremendous offensive line group. That's a tremendous wide receiver group. Now at every other position, there's at least one elite guy per position. So it's not like they're void.

Starting point is 00:08:26 But there's two groups that are really great. Now, I'm kind of tuning out the offensive line from that standpoint because we have a high-priced offensive line that is very, very good, that is capable of really big things. And so from our standpoint, if we're going to do an offensive lineman, it's going to be more on that late second, second day or third day. And there are plenty of guys that we could talk about at another setting on that. So to me, the biggest needs that I'm looking at, and of course, quality of play is important, is wide receivers that can, number one, change the game and corners that can shut you down. Okay. So that's kind of my priority. We can't be exclusively that way because on 15, a lot of things can happen. So you have to have what I call a cluster of players

Starting point is 00:09:21 who are pretty equal. And then you make your choice from there. Yeah. And we know with Chris, he loves that cluster. Unless there are some guys that are like blue chip elite level guys on their board, they're going to try and trade down a little bit to get at least one of those guys from the cluster while recouping more assets. But I'm with you. This seems like a year people want to talk about them moving up as well to get one of those elite players. You know, there's definitely some options there. This is kind of a unique year where there's a lot of offense

Starting point is 00:09:55 loading up at the top of the board. It might send some really quality stuff down to the Colts at 15. But no, we'll go ahead and talk about that here soon. We're going to go ahead and move on to, in a moment, some offensive guys that have got us excited that might fit the Colts really well. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals who are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs, which has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team faster and for free. LinkedIn isn't just a job board either. They help you hire professionals you can't find anywhere else,

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Starting point is 00:11:53 24-7 streaming channel on YouTube, or the free Amazon Fire TV channels app. Well, remember this, too, in this draft. And this is normal. This is normal now. The quarterback position is highly inflated. Okay. In my book, every single one of them is inflated. But because of that, it's good news for the Colts because four of them are going to be gone.

Starting point is 00:12:22 Okay. Four of them are going to go probably in the top 10. Okay. Which means you're not drafting 15th, you're drafting 11th. Okay. You're drafting 11th with the remainder of position players in the draft, which really gives you a premium selection. You know, and then if you probably take the top three receivers that everybody seems to think will be top 10 guys, you know, you're down to about eight or nine. I mean, so you're, you're really looking at a top, top quality guys. Now, when I look at 15, this is realistic in my book, guys that really, really excite me on the offensive side of the ball.

Starting point is 00:13:06 Okay. The first one, and people, I get a lot of feedback because I don't think anybody else has him quite this high. My favorite player in the draft is Worthy. I just think that he has what you cannot coach. The 4-2-1 is not just track speed. I see it. I see him improve as a receiver.

Starting point is 00:13:30 Tremendous yak. With the new kickoff rule, he brings a dimension there that is incredible. I just feel like he is the Tariq Hill. I know the limitation is the size, but you just money can't buy that. So to me, my number one guy is Worthy. Now, along with Worthy, I like Brian Thomas, obviously, just the opposite. Now, both of them can play outside or inside,

Starting point is 00:14:01 but Worthy is more of a guy you move around like Hill, but he can get on top of you. Great on the over routes with that speed. Great catch and run guy. Thomas gives you also very much what we need. He is a guy that can win on the outside quarter of the field. He can win outside the numbers. He can beat the press.

Starting point is 00:14:24 I think he had 12 touchdowns, legitimate 4-3-3, big range, 6-4, 2-10, something like that. I mean, he can clip it. He can go get it. In that sense, they are my top two guys at that moment. Now, you know, there are some other guys, if you move down just a little bit, that I like. But those two guys, to me, would be legitimate number 15. Now, I'm not sure a guy like Chris, who does know the league very well, might not be able to move back a little bit and pick up a worthy. He might be able to move back a little bit and pick up a word that he might be able to move like 22, but you can't go too far back because the chiefs and some of those top teams are just waiting for that guy, uh, you know, sitting in that, in that situation. So, I mean, you, you know, you got that

Starting point is 00:15:19 now, some of the other guys that wide receivers that would be if you if you move back and you had to go with that. Here's some guys that I like. Obviously, the Texas Mitchell. I think the Texas Mitchell, Leggett and Franklin, you know, those are from Oregon. Those are three guys that are, I think, legitimate outside receivers. They all have the speed. They're all sub four, four. They can all go get it. Leggett's a big physical kind of a one year wonder. Mitchell Mitchell had just he's done some great things. And then two guys in the slot, Pearsall and Wilson, who's a combination guy. And then my favorite, my favorite wild card, okay, is McConkie. He is the ultimate Morse reservoir all-star. He's

Starting point is 00:16:17 the guy that just blows you away. You can't cover it. You know, you keep wanting to say he's not good enough, but you can't cover him. Now, I to say he's not good enough, but you can't cover him. Now, I do believe he's a little bit more of a slot than an outside guy. So I would give preference to the outside guy. And then, of course, you have the big wild card. The big wild card. Actually, to me, there's two unique players that I'm not sure what to do with. One of them is Bowers, and one of them is Dejean. One offense, one defense. Now, here's my conflict. Okay. Both of them, and let's go the tight end first, okay? All right, the tight end, Bowers, tremendous on tape.

Starting point is 00:17:10 I mean, there's nothing you don't like about him. I mean, he can block. He can run. He has receiver-type body control, break tackles, yak. I mean, he had a 70- on a on a speed sweep uh at georgia uh he if you if you look at him metrically he's almost kittle to a point they're almost you know now i i'm a little bit upset because with the georgian numbers we you know, they're never totally confirmed. But if you believe what you're getting out of there,

Starting point is 00:17:51 then he and Kittle are clones coming out. The irony is Kittle was a fifth-round draft pick. Right, yeah. I mean, that just blows my mind, but he was. Fifth-round draft pick. But, you know, that's the kind of guy that you're looking at. The only issue with him is I'm not sure that he he will make you better. There's no question about it. Good players, top players, great talent make you better. But I don't know that he makes you better where you need to be better.

Starting point is 00:18:18 See, here's the evolution of the game. And I've watched it for 42 years now. Okay. And the evolution of the game has gone this way, that way you've seen, you know, in my early days, it was all man-to-man derivatives on defense, you know, bomb city. Then it was Walsh came in and then we had, you know, we had the Jimmy Johnson defense, the Buddy Ryan defense. Then it was the Tampa 2 was fashionable. Now it's a single high phenomenon. Everybody's playing a single high. And then you also have the influx of the quarterbacks who have added gaps to the running game,

Starting point is 00:19:01 which totally changed the defense. And what I've seen evolving now is that teams are playing nine guys inside the numbers on defense. Okay. So in other words, you're playing nine. Now you may be playing an eight man front with a single high safety, or you might be in some kind of quarter scheme where you're spinning the safeties, but you're still playing at the end of the day, nine guys inside the box to stop the new breed of quarterbacks, the Richardson, the Jacksons, you know, the Josh, the kid, you know, the kid at Buffalo, Hertz,

Starting point is 00:19:42 all these guys have added a dimension that college game. Now, when you look at that, Hurts, all these guys have added a dimension, that college game. Now, when you look at that, okay, what is the Achilles heel of those kinds of defenses? It's outside the numbers one-on-one. And this is why I put such a premium on explosive guys that can win outside the numbers because you're going to have islands today. So it's important on both sides of the ball to be able to win on the island on defense, win on the island on offense. And I think you're going to see it more and more and more. I will use Philadelphia as a classic example. They made the trade for A.J. Brown because they had to get somebody to go with Smith on the outside so that when everybody jammed

Starting point is 00:20:34 it up for Hurts and the running game, like they're going to do, this is what you're going to do with AR5 and with JT. You're going to load the box and you're going to stop those guys first and you're going to say, beat me. Now, Pittman, he is a role player, a working man's football player. We all love him, but he is not a winner outside the numbers. He's an inside scheme dependent, almost like a tight end. He's a wide receiver and a tight end's body. He's an inside scheme dependent, almost like a tight end. He's a wide receiver and a tight end's body. He's got high volume catches, but he's 85th in the league in yards after the catch, which is where all the tight ends are. And I'm not here. I love Mike, but he's not that answer. Downs inside the numbers. Okay. Tight end inside the numbers. If you see what I'm saying? I'm making the case that where we've got to be able to win

Starting point is 00:21:27 and our kid can throw it is outside the numbers. And Alec Pierce just hasn't. I mean, that's kind of where he makes his money, but you need more. He does some good things out there. You know, I still, I'm a little disappointed because I was real high on Pierce when we signed him. And he's done enough good things, flashes, to keep you interested. But it just doesn't seem like enough. You know, it doesn't seem like you can put him out there and say, okay, Alex is going to win one-on-one.

Starting point is 00:22:00 You know, if I put Worthy out there, you better back off or I'm going to beat you one on one. Same way with Thomas, you know, same way with these guys we're talking about on the outside. Yeah. Something we've kind of talked about around here is with Pierce defenders. Like if Pierce is going to beat you, they know where it's going to happen. But if you, if you get one of these elite speed guys who they are, they're instantly getting separation, it's not like a full head of steam thing like with Pierce. They're instantly getting separation or getting a double move or something like that. There's just, and especially if it's coming from the outside,

Starting point is 00:22:36 there's just not a lot you can do about that. And it's fascinating what you said about Bowers and how schematically it's kind of questionable because Shane, to me, seems it's kind of questionable because Shane to me seems like the kind of head coach that you know he is he's very flexible and he's going to attack what the defense is presenting and if if that's a lot of single high then I mean I personally just my observations and reading the tea leaves I I think they're kind of bullish on, on worthy as well. Uh, you know, we've, we've seen a lot of, you know, Reggie and Shane and Jim Bob were all down there at the Texas pro day and they're, you know, there's just been a couple other things I've noticed, but I think

Starting point is 00:23:16 the interest there is legitimate and whether it's Thomas as well, which are, uh, you know, Thomas seems to be the, the kind of guy that Chris has been chasing this whole time. You know what I mean? But it's finally legitimately at a guy who would be deservedly picked at 15. So I really don't think they could go wrong with either of those two guys. See, I don't either. Here's the one difference that I see. And you make a really good point about Pierce, okay?

Starting point is 00:23:42 Like if I were playing the Colts, and I'm the defensive coordinator, I'm going to play a heavy bare front, safety's on the edge, I'm not going to let you run it, I'm going to press Pittman, and I'm going to play off Pierce to the deep go route. If I play that

Starting point is 00:23:59 to Worthy, and you throw him a hitch, he levels score. To me, that is the difference. It's that ball in hand as well as running the deep route. But we don't have to belabor it. Those are just the guys that are involved there from an offensive standpoint. And again, like I said, there's a lot of really good top tackles, but I don't think that's our market right now.

Starting point is 00:24:29 Right. I mean, you don't want to have that need, but it would be a good year to have it. But again, it's a good year to have the other needs they have on the boundaries. But you were about to mention here in a moment. The other guy you were talking about, that's kind of a big X factor. And that's a guy we've spent a lot of time talking about as well. And that's Iowa defensive back Cooper Eugene. I say defensive back.

Starting point is 00:24:52 Cause is he your corner? Is he safety nickel? Like he's an X factor. We've all been there either as a player or a fan. It's halftime and the scoreboard is not looking good. You're feeling low, not sure you or your team can pull out a fan. It's halftime and the scoreboard is not looking good. You're feeling low, not sure you or your team can pull out a win. That's when you dig deep, lift your head up, and say to yourself, time to get back in the game, pull off some bank heists, and take as much of my friend's

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Starting point is 00:26:33 But I see him, the way I see him when I watch tape is I don't see him as a great outside corner, despite those numbers. I see him as a nickel, safety, and very, very good, but not necessarily what we need. He's not that guy outside the numbers. But again, if you take Bowers or you take DeGene, I'm not going to be mad about it because you're getting really good football players. That is not in dispute. There's no two guys better on tape consistently than those guys. Now, my two favorites, and I think you know me well enough and have probably listened to me on draft shows over the years, my handprint will always be speed one.

Starting point is 00:27:22 I was a disciple of Al Davis way back in the 80s, and I believe speed kills, and I believe it kills at wideout, and I believe it's impossible to play without it on the island on defense. So to me, unquestionably, the best corner in the draft who could be there at 15, it's possible, is obviously Quinion Mitchell from Toledo. I think he's personally, when I check all the boxes, when I check football tape, when I check character, the metrics, 4-3-3 again. I look at him and I say to myself, that's the best corner

Starting point is 00:28:11 in the league. That's the guy that we can put him out there on an island. We can run with Nico Collins. Nico Collins is not going to run away from him. He can learn how to press. He's not a great press guy coming in because he played mostly off, but he has all the tools. I can always teach a guy to press. OK, if you if you give me the tools, the foot speed, hand placement, quickness, things like that, I I can teach the press. OK, what I can't give him is that four three speed and that 41 vertical. Can't give him that. So he, to me, is number one. Now, my two is different than the Colts would have, too, I think. I like Wiggins number two.

Starting point is 00:28:51 And obviously, again, I will always be consistent from the speed standpoint. Wiggins is 4'2", 9". You know, he's tall, rangy. He's light. You know, he's a little bit light. He's got a little bit of the same issues that you have with Worthy. So there's times he gets banged around, but he's willing. It's not like he backs off, but he has great skill deep.

Starting point is 00:29:16 He can go get the ball skill-wise. He can press you and stop you. If you have him and Mitchell on your team, you're looking at two guys at 4-3 that you ain't worried about playing on the island. And we're going to live on the island today. Just trust me on all that. So those would be my two guys that I really like on the island. Now, some of the other guys that I like, if you go, if you slip, again, you can't fill it all with one or two needs. But a couple of guys that I'm really excited about is two corners. I like Sanistro from Michigan.

Starting point is 00:29:59 I think he's a lot like Winfield from Tampa, except Winfield is a safety moving down. He's a corner moving back. But he's the same kind of guy, not really big, but really good speed, plays the nickel, can play outside, real playmaker, and he does have the speed. And then, of course, the kid, and I think you guys mentioned him a couple weeks ago i thought you guys i was right on with you on almost everyone um you had a you had a a show last week one time that i watched is is melton from rutgers and again you're talking four three nine so you know to me my corner room is going to be fast. You know, like some people like Arnold the best. I like Arnold a lot, but he's right at 450.

Starting point is 00:30:49 And I think Arnold eventually will be a lot like Dajin. He will be a nickel safety. He will not be that outside island guy, if you follow what I'm saying. But Arnold would be up there. The other kid that I really like is McKistry. He just ran last week, did a good job. He had that foot, so he hadn't run, but he ended up running sub four or five. He was about four, four, seven. So, and he's a terrific press guy. So I really like those guys. And then there's a couple of safeties I like that can play nickel, that can play corner.

Starting point is 00:31:28 I just love Taylor Demerson from Texas Tech. I think he was on your list. The more I watch him, he just turns me on. He's not very big. He's 5'9", 190, but he's another one of those 4'3 guys that can fly, versatile, nickel, can play safety and then i like the bullock kid um out of um a bullock is out of southern cow i i like him at safety because i also think with his speed and range um he can be a he can play corner as well and so you know every guy that I've talked to you about today is very, very fast and very good on tape. I mean, yeah. You know that. And again, there will be some guys on other people's lists who will be higher than mine.

Starting point is 00:32:16 Some of my guys will be lower. But one thing you know with me, it's always going to be consistent. That's right. And again, we all have our things that we, we really value heavily. Like for me, something I've, I've taught myself, I'm not going to go back on is if I watch a safety and he's like really instinctive and it seems like he's one step ahead of the offense, I'm willing to bend on the athletic testing a little bit. You know what I mean? It's just, I've seen too many guys hit that i liked yeah i maybe put down a peg because the athletics but if i see a guy with unreal instincts i've just i have to go with them you know what i mean yeah no no no and instincts can't necessarily be taught i mean it's the only

Starting point is 00:32:57 the position to me if if there's ever if i ever have because I really respect about I think Bowers are really good personality value. We talk. We get together and he'll say, take a peek at this guy. You know, we you know, we kind of grew up together in the league way back when, when he was a young scout and I was coaching. So I really respect him. The only time that we will have a professional difference, okay, will be the corner position because he has had a little bit of success with Tillman and Peters at Kansas City. And those guys were four, five, three. And to me, they're out of my range, but because he's had some success with it, they are in the range. Now, we're going to find out if a 4-5-3 and a 4-5-7 guy can win out there

Starting point is 00:33:52 because that's what we're playing with. And, you know, I mean, we can have all the stuff in the world, but you saw Nico Collins run away from him. Yeah, that can definitely be a problem. Well, Coach, I could go on with you for a couple more hours. We got to wrap it up today, but now that means that we got to have you back after the draft once everyone is actually in the building. I know Zach wants to catch up with you as well, but man, coach, thanks so much for joining us today. All right, Jake, enjoyed it.

Starting point is 00:34:22 All right. That was awesome stuff as as always, with Coach Rick Venturi. Love to have him around. I follow that guy around at training camp all the time, every year on game days. I just love to ping my thoughts off of him. You can tell he obviously knows what he's talking about. We're going to get him back after the draft. I know Zach wants to talk to him as well. So once we actually know who the Colts have picked, we will bring him back to get his thoughts as well.

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