Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: Who Joins PEYTON MANNING On Team's Mount Rushmore?

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

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Peyton Manning is obviously the face of the Colts Mount Rushmore, but which other players joined him in all-time Colts glory? Let's get to it. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you all for tuning in and making us your first listen of the day. It's your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis cults,

part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. And today's episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off of your first purchase. Hello everyone, my name is Zach Hickey, your resident film nerd beforeeHuddle.com and I'm joined as always by Jake Arthur, our boots on the ground for the site as well. Now we're taking a break this offseason from all the speculation on the current team and just talking about the current team.

I feel like we have prepared you guys for training camp enough at this point and we want to take one slight step back today and do more of a nostalgic type episode. So recently for the Locked On Podcast Network we released our Mount Rushmore for the Indianapolis Colts. So throughout the Indianapolis Colts history we personally only did Indianapolis. We'll get into more details on that later in the show. But for the Indianapolis Colts history, who the four best players are, or just who the four players would be on the Mount Rushmore for Indianapolis. And Jake and I agreed on Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison,

Reggie Wayne, and Dwight Freeney. So we're going to talk through those picks here, go on a little blast in the past, and Jake will really get into some of the nostalgia with it there, especially growing up being a fan of that Jake. Then we'll talk about some players who've just the cut and then talk about some current players who have a chance to maybe get on this Mount Rushmore. Heck, I think the Colts have one maybe two current like

you know guys who are on pace for Hall of Fame careers currently on the roster. We'll talk about those guys in a minute but first Jake again our four selections Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dwight Freeney. We don't have to spend much time on Peyton Manning, you know, you know, a top two quarterback to ever play this play the game. I think that was the easy decision there. But these other three picks, Jake, what kind of led to your thinking with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dwight Freeney to round out your Mount Rushmore? Yeah, it's funny. I think Mike Chappell said, you know, when he was making the argument for Peyton Manning

in the Hall of Fame, his argument simply was Peyton Manning. Yeah. So look at the numbers, look at the vibes. Like it kind of has all of it. Yeah, obviously. All the MVPs, all pros, pro bowl, like every accolade he could achieve, he had it. So Peyton Manning, obviously. Marvin Harrison,

you know, you and I, we, you know, when we initially discussed this, we even talked about it even up to just going on air today. You know, Marvin is I feel comfortably a top 10 wide receiver of all time. And I think he helped usher in that Peyton Manning era certainly helped make Peyton's life a little easier got there just a little before. So just a prolific player had broken the single season receptions record at one point 143. I remember that game against the Browns. So yeah, Marvin makes all the sense the world. Reggie Wayne, obviously one of the most prolific receivers of all time as well by the time he retired, he was up there, I believe was in the top 10 of most categories by the time he retired was one of the leaders in playoff receptions and yards and all that stuff as well.

There's a lot of sentimentality when it comes to Reggie as well that I'll get to in just a moment. But Dwight Freehny also, so I think Reggie and Dwight Freehny were the ones that I don't want to say push back, but a lot of people gave their feedback as well on what they would do. And a lot of people are either, you know, Freehney or Robert Mathis. And you know, when it comes to Dwight Freehney, like we mentioned, Marvin Harrison is pretty comfortably a top 10 receiver of all time. I think Dwight Freehney was a top five pass rusher in the NFL pretty much throughout his tenure with the Colts. He was definitely a guy you had to game plan against week in and week out. I think a lot of people would tell you that the Colts win that

Super Bowl against the Saints with a fully healthy Dwight Freehny. I mean he just in the first half he had that sack where he brought down Drew Brees with one arm and was pretty much toast by the second half, you know, so Dwight for any huge difference maker that that era, everyone talks about Frene and Mathis, but like Frene was that guy. He had the patented spin move. You know, it was he was the poster child of that defense. So for me, there are other guys you could argue for being on here, but this I feel very good about these being our four.

Yeah, I will say for for me who doesn't really have a nostalgic feeling of it, like this wasn't my team growing up, I grew up obviously admiring the Colts and really enjoying that Colts era of football. But I was kind of separated from the fandom of it. football, but I was kind of separated from the fandom of it. So when we got asked to do this exercise, you know, Jake was obviously bringing analysis and the fan brain aspect of it. And I was bringing mostly just what I thought as a fan from afar. And for me, it wasn't even a debate that Harrison and Freini were both going to be on this list for me to top 10 players of all time, respectively, at their position. In my opinion, I really had no qualms whatsoever

of putting those guys on there was really easy for me to throw those two guys up there the difficult part was the fourth guy who was going to be the fourth guy you obviously have Reggie Wayne Robert Mathis and a couple other Hall of Famers from that era of Indianapolis Colts football and we obviously wanted to include that Super Bowl run with all four of these guys, because it was the one Indianapolis Colts Super Bowl that we really needed to include. And that era of of Colts football was obviously the great the great era. So we ultimately agreed on Reggie Wayne. And I think part of it is just like, yes, we are doing this purely from player standpoint and a football standpoint.

This has nothing to do with just the impact in the, you know, off the field or as a coach. But Reggie Wayne to me just kind of gave off that air of like leadership and everything you were looking for from a person as well with the Colts, as well as being, you know, a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver. He helped usher in the Andrew Luck era and then helped mentor T.Y. Hilton to being the

third greatest receiver in Indianapolis Colts history behind those top two guys. And he was really a big part of passing that torch. And that 2012 season, I don't know if it's nearly as fun without Reggie Wayne. Reggie Wayne was fantastic that entire season, really the last huge season he had with the Colts. So it's like, to me, he barely got ahead of some other guys that we were considering. Great player, Hall of Fame caliber player for sure, and just an outstanding football player. But for me, yeah, these are four Hall of Famer guys, like they're great, great players. But Reggie Wayne barely got on the list for me. The other three guys, I think, were pretty safe in my opinion.

So, Reggie, I think, was my second after Peyton on here. I consider Reggie Mr. Colt, especially coming to now where he has been the receivers coach for a few years. He just, he's a transplant from Miami, Florida, coming to the cornfields of Indiana back in 2001. Spent pretty much his whole career with the Colts up until I tried to give it a go in training camp with the Patriots final season. But we don't count that. I know there's pictures out there. I don't think they're real.

It's Photoshop. I'm pretty sure you did not make it to the regular season. So it does not count. No, I mean, he's Mr. Colt, he's the franchise leader in games played. But this is sentimentality for me. And his career is kind of in two acts. So he seamlessly replaced Marvin Harrison as the top receiver and made that not be such a burning wound once Marvin Harrison started to kind of peter out and as you mentioned he helped

T.Y. Hilton become T.Y. Hilton essentially but back in that you know 2011-2012 time frame both Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garçon were up for agency and Garçon was a young up-and-coming player he got a lot of money from Washington but that was a big blow like he he got he was a big time playmaker for the Colts of Peyton Manning. And like that was tough to see him and him go. And Reggie Wayne even admitted just recently after the passing of Jim Orsay, he was about to be out the door as well, get about to get on a plane to go sign somewhere else in 2012 for Orsay got on the horn with him.

They worked it out. And the Colts don't experience that same level of magic in the early Andrew Luck era without Reggie Wayne. Right. You got the Chuck Pagano game, the Chuck Strong game against the Packers, the Orange Gloves. That's going to live on as an iconic moment in Colts history. But there's just so much about Reggie. I mentioned the playoff stats as well. And the fact that he's not in the hall of fame at this point sucks again, like he is a guy who like there are NFL films archives that like feature him. Like he is a part of NFL history.

Uh, so to me it's, it's a no brainer. Uh, and I think, I think if you pulled the mat, the vast majority of Colts fans in Indianapolis, who like watch games in the RCA Dome and the early Lucas Oil Stadium days. I think Reggie is the second most popular Indianapolis Colts player behind Peyton Manning and shoot another another one that just popped my I didn't think about the fourth and two game. He caught the game winning touchdown in that one as well. So like Reggie Wayne's like his carbon footprint on Colts is there like heavily. I don't I don't think you can have a Mount Rushmore of the Indianapolis Colts without Reggie in it.

Yeah. And my my taking away the fan brain, my analytic brain with this mainly went that era of Colts football was defined by the offense. And can you really tell the story that Colts offense without Reggie Wayne? I don't think you can. Reggie Wayne was the third most important part of that offense so that's why I ultimately agreed with Jake to put him on there. But coming up guys we're gonna talk about some of our notable exclusions. You guys have been throwing some in the comments here. You've been responding to us on socials about some of our notable exclusions and also we have to answer the question what about the Baltimore

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these guys specifically. So Edren James and Robert Mathis are some of the big ones. I would put Jeff Saturday and Adam Venetarian there as well. I've also seen a lot of Bob Sanders, which I would entertain that too. I think that one comes with a big caveat, a big asterisk that we'll get to. But let's just start with you. Which of these was the toughest cuts for you? For me, I think there was a tier of three players when it came down to that last spot.

You know how I mentioned in the first segment that the Reggie Wayne spot was up for grabs for me? And really the only other players I considered for that were Edren James and Robert Mathis. It was kind of those three guys fighting for that final spot In the tiebreaker for me because I think you can kind of make the argument for all three of these guys that like all-time Ranking they're probably all around a similar tier in their respective positions probably top 20 ish all-time in their respective rankings very very good players, but not like upper echelon like You know, I mean they're gonna be like some of these guys are like Edren James

I think it's a Hall of Famer Robert Mathis Hall of Famer like we're not talking down on them But like that next level like Marvin Harrison Dwight Freeney and Peyton Manning that like top 10 all-time at their position type players They're kind of in that next tier. So Reggie Wayne won out for me, but it was tough cutting Robert Mathis, I think, from that because he was such a darn good pass rusher. And, you know, in my brain, I do think Dwight Franey was the much better player, maybe not by a ton, but like the better player between the two of them, especially when the Colts were at their their highest peak. Dwight Franey was the one and Robert Mathis was the two.

Even if it was a pretty close one to two, I still think that's kind of how it broke down. They are very similar all time and career sack numbers, but Freeney just has the more first team all pros, the more impact plays in my opinion. So that's what kind of gave Freeney that nod there. And then I still went with Wayne because of the nostalgic vibe of that and just the era of offense there. But that was the toughest cut.

Edren James, the biggest reason why he got cut for me. And it's just tough to say this because when you're making these very difficult cuts, but like the running back was the most replaceable part of that early Colts run. And this is not to say Edren James is not a Hall of Fame player. Like he is a fantastic, fantastic running back, one of the all time greats at the position. But that Colts offense early in the, you know, in the 2000s, they were able to supplant him with Joseph Addai and Dominique Rhodes. And heck, they won the Super Bowl without him.

A very heartbreaking thing. They won the Super Bowl without him. But it heartbreaking thing, they won the Super Bowl without him. But it just didn't feel right for an Indianapolis Colts Mount Rushmore to put a guy on there who didn't win the Super Bowl with that era. You know, so very, very difficult cut. I think Edwin James is a fantastic player all time. And if the Mount Rushmore had six heads, those would be the two guys I would throw on there. Jeff Saturday and Adam andatieri, great players,

but I think I'd have Bob Sanders over both of them as well. The short peak was just so good, Bob Sanders, that I think I would have Bob Sanders over both of those guys personally. Adam Vinatieri wouldn't be in my top 600, but that's just me personally as a hater of, it's a kicker, it's not a real thing. But that's how I would break it down personally. That's just me personally as a hater of, it's a kicker. It's not a real thing.

But that's how I would break it down personally. I think if I really had to rank them through six, it would be Mathis at five and Edgeron James at six is the way I would have it. I don't know, would you be the same Jake or a little bit different there? No, I think Edge would probably be my next one in there. Now, again, there's arguments

for why he didn't make it, of course. The season he tore his ACL, I think, in 0-1, Dominic Rhodes came in and ran for over 1,000. He missed a couple of games the next year, and that's when James Mungrow came on the map and did some nice things. Edger was a very special player.

And I think everyone who watches this show by now was probably around to watch when Ezekiel Elliott came into the league. Edren was Zeke before Zeke, and not just because they both led the NFL and rushing each their first two years. But both players right out of the bat were immaculate, triple threat players as runners, pass catchers and in pass protection. Like Edren was like a true three down, never had to leave the field type of player. Very special running back, no doubt.

But as we've seen throughout NFL history, or I guess like since the 2000s really, no matter how special running back is, they're not usually the reason for or why a team won or lost. Like they're awesome icing on top. And I do think if Edren was still with the Colts in 06, they still would have won the Super Bowl. But they won it without him there also. And that's not to downgrade him whatsoever. There are just tiebreakers for me in this.

But then of course, Robert Mathis, for a lot of the same reasons, I really appreciated Reggie Wayne. You could say the same for Robert Mathis. He also, for the defense, was like that last taste of that era. Because like he was, Robert Mathis played until what,

like 2015 or something as well. Like I think him and Reggie went out right around the same time He had a huge final seat like he had one of his final seasons was like really big up until he had that I forget what injury it was. He had like a torn ACL or Achilles Achilles. Yeah Achilles. Yeah, I think he played one more year after that But like he was again that last taste of that era of Colts football and he still played at a relatively high level going out of it until the injury. He came back to coach a little bit with the Colts as well because like he wanted to be

a part of the franchise so that was a big deal. Jeff Saturday is another guy like obviously answered like his coaching came back to coach. He did too. Yeah, his coaching tenure did not go well and it was pretty toxic, but he he did it. You know, he said yes, he came back but like Jeff Saturday was a huge fan favorite up until that and he was one of the only players that people would

have accepted coming in to be the interim coach. Like it was a joke no matter what, but like Jeff Satere was probably like the least of all the evils there. I said it at the time was like this was putting a pretty, a pretty beloved face on an awful situation. And that's what it was. But no, Jeff Satere was a big deal here. Adam Vinatieri, obviously a lot of big moments. It meant something that he went from the Patriots who I don't think there's any like any opposing fan base here in Indiana based sports has been hated more than the Patriots during that Tom Brady era. So for Vinatieri to come from the Patriots and come to the Colts, played with the Colts longer,

won a Super Bowl with the Colts, got to a second one, but the Colts lost that Superbowl. He wasn't in it. He was injured that year. Matt Stoker was the kicker. Uh, but no, he was a big deal. And then I'll throw Dallas Clark in the mix as well. But like he was always like a top five to 10 tight end when he was in the NFL. Bob Sanders, that's a tough one. I do think if Bob would have had like a couple more healthy seasons, no question. Yeah, because there are guys who again have that footprint on NFL history.

You think of every Troy, Paul, Amalu, those like insane safety, Sean Taylor, those insane safeties of that era. Bob Sanders was comfortably in that group, if not for all those injuries, even one defensive player the year the year after the Colts won the Super Bowl because he Super Bowl run, he wasn't healthy like until the playoffs, but he was healthy the entire next year and one defensive player of the year in the NFL. So yeah, health was the only issue for Bob. Yeah. And I will say this as a person who grew up as a Washington fan, Bob Sanders, much, much better than Sean Taylor ever got to be

in the NFL. Like Sean Taylor was awesome, but as someone who watched both in their prime as a kid, wasn't even close. Bob Sanders wasn't all, Bob Sanders won a defensive player the year over the Palamalos and the Ed Reeds of the world. Like he was pretty great.

Real quick though, Jake, we're running long on this segment, but I do. I did want to answer the question. No Baltimore Colts players. I mostly left that up to you because you're the indie native. But for me personally, I viewed them as Baltimore Ravens past players. I don't view them as Baltimore Colts, even though they say they have the same, like, you know, Colts in there.

But I view them as Baltimore franchise players. That's why I left them off. I would have gladly put United's in here if we considered him with this. But I left it up to you and you want to just Indianapolis Colts guys. Why was your reasoning for that? Yeah. So number one, I mean, let's just address the elephant in the room. You and I are both young enough to not be able to speak accurately about Johnny Unitas, Gino Marchetti, Raymond Berry, Lenny Moore, those guys. I do not want to downplay their effect on NFL history, but

I can't tell you about them. I can name off their stats and accomplishments, but I didn't watch them play. Plus Colts franchise history is so saturated in two areas, two eras all the way back then with Baltimore and then all the way in the Peyton Manning era. It's just nothing but the upside down and awfulness in between essentially. So the Baltimore Colts deserve their own Rushmore

because they have, they're loaded with Hall of Famers too, just like this era is. So it's very hard within four phases to do it with those two areas. Otherwise, obviously, Johnny United is probably in there probably genome are chatting because he's one of the best pass rushers of that era ever to. So like, yes, there are ones deserving of it, but it's such a huge conversation that it's hard to do that. And again, I think they deserve each their their own Mount Rushmore. Yeah, that's perfectly fair. I totally to do that. And again, I think they deserve each their own Mount Rushmore. Yeah, that's perfectly fair.

I totally agree with that. And I wanted to leave it up to you again, because you have the more like by it, not biased, but just the more knowledge in that area with that stuff. But coming up, guys, we're going to bring it back to the current Colts. Are there any current Colts players that have a chance to making this this Mount Rushmore in the future or at least like a top 10 list like going forward? Like, do we have any current Colts players that have a chance to making this this Mount Rushmore in the future or at least like a top 10 list like going forward like do we have any current Colts players that have a chance at that we'll get to that here in just a second. Already locked on Colts every day as we are back talking about the Colts Mount Rushmore that we

did for the Locked On Podcast Network we talked about our picks we gave our reasoning and we talked about players that just missed the cup. But what about current players that could have a chance at this in the future? Or maybe not a chance at this list because Mount Rushmore is just tough. But let's say a top 10 list, or an all-time list of Colts players,

all-time, the best at every position. What current Colts players have a chance at this? And I think you're looking at two guys who are on a Hall of Fame path right now in Quentin Nelson and honestly still Jonathan Taylor in my opinion are on that Hall of Fame path and I think there are guys who would be worthy of consideration. I mean you look at Quentin Nelson, what is it besides Peyton Manning? He's got like he's like up there with like Peyton and Gino Marchetti

and then it's like Quentin Nelson for like all pros in franchise history. Like I think he has the same amount of all pros as Dwight Frini had in his career. And he's not he just turned 30 years, just under 30 years old. Every year. Yeah. So Quentin Nelson is on pace to being a top 10 guard to ever play the sport. He's currently in his prime playing with

the Colts and even if even if he's like taking a slight step back from what he was in 2018-2019, he's still consistently a top two to three guard in the sport. One of the best players in football. And then Jonathan Taylor, you know, again, we talked so highly about Edwin James, we talked so highly about, you know, guys like Joseph Addai and Marshall Falk before that. When Jonathan Taylor's career is over, as long as he can stay healthy these next couple of years, his numbers are going to look very similar to those guys. And he'll have, you know, the first team all pros, he'll have the Pro Bowl nods, like, I think Jonathan Taylor is going to have, you know, as long as he gets some success in there, is going to have one of those like French Hall of Fame careers as well.

So I think those are the two guys that immediately stood out to me, Jake. Yeah, I think so too. So with Quinton, I think he would have a good argument for the Mount Rush more easily at this point already would be Top 10 Colt. The problem all these guys have is no postseason. That's the biggest ding on them so far.

Like now the next few years could play out a certain way. But yeah, Quinton, I think regardless is probably going to end up there. Jonathan Taylor again, unless he just hits a wall, he's going to finish as the Colts like second all time leader in all rushing stats behind Edwin basically. And he right now, this doesn't get talked about enough in NFL history. He is number five all time in rushing yards per game. It's behind like Jim Brown and Eric Dickerson. Like we're talking blue blood running backs, like classic running backs, John, the Taylor's fifth all time. Uh, so I mean, if, if he can stay relatively healthy, at least how he was last year, then within another couple, two, three more seasons, I think he's right there.

DeForest Buckner, Matt Heat fan mentioned that here. I think he's the best defensive tackle of the Indianapolis era. Again, if you go back to the Baltimore days, there's probably some other arguments. But the Colts don't have a rich history at like cornerback or defensive tackle. And DeForest Buckner has been probably the most meaningful defensive tackle I've had, uh, which brings me then why I mentioned cornerback Kenny Moore. Uh, again, he's probably a top three, if not the best corner they've ever had like career. Uh, and not the best corner they've ever had.

Do it like his career. And he's still got some in the tank. So I think you could do that. I've got a watch list as well. Some young, young players who I don't think qualify yet. They just haven't been around long enough. But like if their career keeps on this trajectory, you could make a good argument. So Tyler Warren obviously is a real... Don't crown him so early, Jake. Geez, man.

Well, listen though, if he turns out to be what he's advertised, then like, he'll probably be a perennial top five tight end in the NFL throughout his career. I hope so. That'd be awesome. So again, this is a watch list. These guys haven't accomplished enough yet. So Tyler Warren is a young guy. Bernard Ryman. There's not, you know,

when you're looking at left tackle success, a lot of people will, there's like Chris Hinton, I think, but like Anthony Costanza was really behind Tarek Glenn. It's not a rich history of offensive tackles for the most part. Got Adam Meadows as well, right tackle. Josh Downs, I think he's gotten off

to a really fast start to his career. If you look at guys and what they've accomplished through their first two years, he's actually really high up there. Now again, it's just been two years. So it's a watch list, okay? It's definitely a watch list, Jake. It's definitely a watch list. It's a watch list.

I'm just, I want to highlight some of the young talent cause there's, there's a feeling out there. The Colts don't have a lot of good young talent. Um, the Colts drafted by Ahtu Latu to be the next free knee Mathis Latu. Uh, that was their vision for him. And then I'll throw a curve ball at you here. Nick Cross. He needs to make the jump that I want him to make this next season.

But like, yeah, I think Nick cross is all too. I mean, he's still so young. He's 22, 23. I think when, when safeties are big time playmakers, they are such a highlight worthy type of player across the NFL. Yeah. Like think of how many players just since we've grown up and like now as adults watch like probably so many of your favorite NFL highlights are from safeties.

Like I know mine are like I love the Ed Reeds and the Sean Taylors and the Bob Sanders and everything. Not to say he's going to be that but like he can make big plays. He you know, he gets interceptions, he makes plays and deep in the secondary, in the backfield. So if he keeps getting better and better and better, because he's a guy who's gotten better each year, so he's still an ascending player, then I think, watch out for Nick Cross. Oh, dude, if one of these guys

can live up to that expectation, Jake, then I am just over the moon with these guys right here. So I hope one of those guys can get there. I did want to touch on DeForest Buckner and Kenny Moore real quick. Buckner, completely agree with you. I think he is the best defensive tackle in the history of the Indianapolis Colts.

I can't speak to the Baltimore Colts again. I'm sure there's somebody back there that was better. I think, I feel like Marchetti was a defensive tackle maybe, but again, that's why we can't talk about the Baltimore D's. Right. You don't know enough. Right. Right. You guys can yell at us for being too young in the comments there. But the Forrest Buckner for me, like his biggest competition is what? Booger McFarland, probably.

And the Forrest Buckner has been an all pro like Monte, Monte Rager and Johnson, Marcus Hunt, baby, like he's competing with Marcus Hunt here. Like it's a pretty good list for for DeForest Buckner. So I'm with you there. Kenny Moore, the one thing I really wanted to shout out with Kenny here, though, is we talk about the lack of playoff success for the Colts under Chris Bowden in this era of Indianapolis Colts. But when we go back to their one real playoff run in 2018, where they got to the second round, Kenny Moore finished that playoffs with like three sacks and an interception in two games.

He was a big time performer in the playoffs. Now, again, it would have meant more if it amounted to much more than just a second round exit. But look, get this guy in the playoffs. He produces in the playoffs. Like of an era where nobody really produced in the playoffs. Kenny Moore certainly produced in one of his few chances he got. So, yeah, I think Kenny Moore is going to go down favorably and Indianapolis Colts history to Forrest Buckner as well. Jonathan Taylor at the worst will go down favorably in Colts history.

But Quinn Nelson, he's an all time great. Already there like he if he retired right now, he'd be on the Hall of Fame track. But when you consider where he's gonna be at like age 35 like he'll have one of the best resumes for the Hall of Fame out even if he doesn't get the team's success cuz Who looks at team success really for guards and stuff like that? so fantastic player one more guy I need to throw in here just because He kind of is gonna he's gonna lump into the Bob Sanders mold of it by the end of his by the end of it All I can't even say by the end of his by the end of it all. I can't even say by the end of his career because his career is over now.

But Shaquille Leonard, man, like the pace he was on the pace he was. I know that like he kind of lumps into the current generation of players, but not like the current players. But like, man, that pace he was on was like to be one of the greatest linebackers to ever play the sport. And now he's just another Bob Sanders, which is great. Still like another Bob Sanders is still such a great compliment, but like it does kind of suck. That's what his, his career amounted to is like another what if, instead of like, Oh my gosh, this is what he was, you know?

Yeah. Shaq and Andrew Luck are kind of starting their own what if Mount Rushmore. Yeah. We got to do that next. Andrew Luck, Bob Sanders starting their own what if Mount Rushmore. Yeah, we got to do that next. Andrew Luck, Bob Sanders, we got Shaq Leonard. Do we just have to throw Jack Muhert in just for the joke of it? Because we all thought he was going to be so good. Malik Hooker? No, not Malik Hooker.

Hooker maybe, maybe. Yeah, man, so many what ifs with the Colts. What if Edger and James stuck around for another year? What if Marshall Falk never left like there's a lot of what if what if well they had to trade Marshall Falk to get edge But what about? Joseph I never getting a neck injury. Yeah. Yeah, it's just Joseph. I was a really good two-way player That's true. So many questions with this Colts team, but that's all we have for today We're running out of time for today's episode, guys.

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