Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - LOCKED ON COLTS -10/31- Angry Monday; Indianapolis Colts Drop to 3-5 and Look Terrible Doing It

Episode Date: October 31, 2016

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Visit Cintas.com. No, I'm not for sale. You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome back to Locked On Colts, ladies and gentlemen. I'm your host, Matt Dainley, and we are here for yet another Angry Monday Locked On Colts, ladies and gentlemen. I'm your host, Matt Dainley, and we are here for yet another Angry Monday Locked On Colts, this time for Halloween, October 31st. And yet again, we've seen the Colts falter, shoot themselves in the foot, play like crap, and it's a whole team effort in looking like crap, uh, for the most part yesterday. Um,

you know, Halloween came a little bit early Pagano dressed up like a coach for the Colts and again, proved that he's just not a good coach or a coach at all, really for that matter. Um, some things that, you know, I was at the game, so it's a little harder to evaluate, at least to grab a real analysis of the game. I guess you could say, you know, I was there with my son, so we were kind of watching the game, trying to watch it. But, I mean, you pick up on, obviously, some things,

and especially from where we were sitting, you know, you're looking through players to see other players, so it was not the greatest of views for seeing where everybody's at on the field all the time, depending on which direction the Colts were going. But a couple things stood out to me, just the way that the game was flowing. A lot of times, especially in late first half and in the second half, the Colts' defense would take kind of forever to get figured out where they were going to be. Not really, I mean, just late reacting to the Chiefs already being up at the line of scrimmage and corners and safeties are running back and forth after that, you know, because they're just now looking at the guys that they're across from. Then obviously poor tackling was pretty easy to see. A lot of bad, just, I mean,

you know, I was hoping that when I would watch the game, and I just re-watched about 90% of it, and then I had to turn it off because I was getting so frustrated. But at first blush, watching some of those, you just hope that like maybe there's a angle that you're not uh seeing accurately uh while you're there but they just were bad attempts at tackles there was a play that actually didn't count and I tweeted a bunch of these out just uh you know Sunday night late, and there was a play with Spencer Ware getting through, and what the Chiefs did is they pulled Kelsey over to help kick out a block. Spencer goes behind it, and then we have Eric Walden and TJ Green honestly within arm's reach of Spencer Ware. Neither one of them tackle him. I'm not real sure what TJ Green's excuse for an attempt to that tackle. He was a

foot from him and he throws a shoulder at him, uh, about a shoulder height, assuming that's going to take him out instead of actually trying to wrap him. There were several things like that. Like I said, this is very reactionary, just going to go off of what I saw and then some of the stuff that I saw in the condensed version of the replay. It was hard from my angle to see how bad that interception was that luck through to Moncrief early in the game. It was a terrible pass because the accuracy part of it was bad. Look, if there's not a corner there, Moncrief early in the game. It was a terrible pass because it was, I mean, the accuracy part of it was bad. Look, if there's not a corner there, Moncrief catches that ball. Okay. But there was a corner there and he throws it to the inside shoulder of Moncrief. That's a bad,

bad accuracy. Okay. Now Moncrief, pitiful footwork. First of all, coming out of his break, it's like a hop almost coming out, trying to stop. And then he doesn't really make much of an effort to come back to the ball and go through gains for the ball. And it was an easy pick, and it was just poor timing. I mean, it was actually towards the end of the first half, my mistake on that. But those are the situations I'm talking about when I say, you know, I don't think kneeling was the answer, but the Colts were running the ball okay,

not great, but, you know, it just wasn't a – it's not like Moncrief was wide open. You know, and Moncrief, maybe if he ran a better route, maybe that turns out differently, more crisp, but he didn't. You know, other things. T.Y. Hilton had one catch today. Overall, I thought the defense played pretty well against the rush. I think they held the Chiefs under 90 yards. That's not bad. I mean, it could have been a lot worse, and there was a couple plays that they actually got significantly more yardage than they should have. So, and, you know, another issue was third down conversions. We constantly are talking about first,

second, and third downs, or at least third downs versus the early downs. Colts were four of 13 on third down conversions, and they ended up having 14 first downs on first and second down. It wasn't too bad. I thought some of their first and second down stuff was solid. They put themselves in a lot of bad third down situations because of penalties, but they only had five penalties. I mean, so it wasn't like they were absolutely awful on the front, but it just was a bad combination of a lot of things. Penalties at the wrong time. Like I said, third and long on short third down issues. They were bad play or they're not bad plays, but they were bad execution. Luck would make bad throws. Routes would be terrible or blocking would be bad.

Luck would get sacked. There was some really terrible calls by the refs Sunday as well. I'm not one to complain and cry about referee calls, but there was, I mean, it was kind of like adding insult to injury. You know, you've had a bad day already. You played like crap. And now the times when you do get past breakups or something like that late in the game, the referees are just making up calls. It was so

bad. There was a call on Butler. It was a holding call. There was another pass breakup by Robinson across the middle. They called pass interference on that. I have no idea where they got that. Actually, I think they called a holding on that too. I have no idea how they got that as a holding at all. And there was a couple others too. Memory's not going to get me right all at once here. But it was just bad all the way around. Luck was not sharp at all. The line was confused.

There was a play that I initially tweeted it out. It was a screen grab of the play where it was actually Moncrief's touchdown reception in the corner. Well, Luck had to run away from the nose tackle because the nose tackle went up the middle, only getting one arm pushing off of him, which was Ryan Kelly as a block. Well, there was three guys on the left side of the line,

or I'm sorry, including Kelly, three guys on the left side of the line, or I'm sorry, including Kelly, three guys to the left side there, and all three of them were blocking one guy well. The issue was that Good obviously was supposed to be taking the nose tackle and was supposed to be getting that handed off to him, and Good was totally lost on that play. The only thing that saved it was Luck being able to escape the nose tackle and roll out and hit Moncrief. It was a good pass. It was nice and high and hard, and Moncrief pulled it in. It was a great catch by Moncrief, but there was another mess, or not mess up, but just a lack of effort, I thought, by Moncrief earlier in the game. Deep ball, third down situation, goes deep to Moncrief, maybe overthrows Moncrief maybe a couple feet,

but Moncrief really put no effort into getting that ball, and I'm sorry to tell you that there's no way that he couldn't have made a better effort for that ball. Laying out, stretching his arms out effort for that ball, laying out, stretching his arms out a little bit further. I mean, just something. It was almost like he had gator arms and he never dove for the ball. And he had the defender by, man, two to three feet, you know, and was well in front of him. The defender was completely behind him, not like to the side of him and had him by a few feet. He was completely behind him. So, I mean, when you add all these things together, like I said, Pagano made some really stupid decisions.

He left Luck in there after. You know, on that touchdown to Moncrief that got called back. After that, after that got called back, that's when you take him out. I mean, maybe before that even, but there was a legitimate shot with two, three minutes left on the clock, I think, with, you know, if they get that and an onside kick, you've got a shot to tie the game here if you get both two-point conversions. So, yeah, I mean, I think that you could have left him in until then, but once that Moncrief touchdown got called back, then nix it because you've got to get him out of there. He was getting killed all day, and that's just too much.

You're going to end up getting him hurt, and it's just not going to work. On the one side, we saw Edwin Jackson, I think, had a fairly solid game. There was a play where he got picked and left. I think it was Sharkandrick West in the flat, wide open for a touchdown, and Foles overthrew him, so it was bad. But he was picked. It was obvious offensive pass interference on the play. It wasn't called.

But overall, I thought he had a pretty good game, got a lot of snaps. He and Ayers got a ton of snaps I didn't really notice McGill getting a whole bunch of snaps I'll have to go I'll have to go check the snap count on it but I didn't really notice a whole bunch for T.Y. McGill he had a nice pass breakup got off his feet big dude man I can't believe he got off his feet like that but he almost pulled it in, and that was on the third down, I believe. Big pass break up there. Patrick Robinson looked good for a couple plays. Vontae Davis looked good for a few plays there. At the beginning, it looked like our

defense was going to be smothering, you know. The Colts did end up notching three sacks on the day. They're ultimately the Colts' offensive line from what I saw. Cause, and I tell you what, you can't really tell it on TV, but the length of some of these players, some of these guys in this, in the NFL, when you see them up close and you see them playing against, you know, matching up against who they're matching up against, some of these guys are just so long and lanky. And, um, that I really, I think when you, when you add the combination of skill plus the size and length of these chiefs defenders, uh, Jones, you know, Jones is a rookie and he is a big dude. I mean, he was a lot to handle. He was a lot to handle. Dee Ford, another big guy.

They really struggled with their length and their size. And then you add Poe and Tom Bahaly and Johnson in there, and those guys, they just struggled with them. They were getting really good penetration a lot on the Colts offensive line. The Colts line was confused sometimes. And, you know, it's hard not to chalk this up to inexperience with some rookies and second year guys, but they just, I mean, they looked completely lost. It wasn't about that they couldn't handle what that was. They couldn't, but I mean, the other times it looked as if they hadn't been to practice that week. It was just hard to really ever get into this game. And in fact, and I said this after the game, I don't think that the Chiefs necessarily played a very good game. I mean,

the Colts were down, what, 10 points at one time. And without that interception and the touchdown to end the half, Colts are still within one score at the end of that game. That's how bad the Chiefs played. Okay. They, you know, Nick Foles ended up having a pretty solid game, which go figure, replacement level quarterback against Colts defense. You know, again, the Colts gave up a ton of passing yards. The play down the sideline to Tyreek Hill for the touchdown

looked like a college top-ten team against a high school team. It was literally just a pitch and catch from Foles to Hill. And it was just easy as could be. Mike Adams rolled a little bit too much to the middle of the field. The guys were basically in an under coverage on the corners. And there was a ton of guys underneath on that. And Adams was the only guy deep on his side of the field, and he wasn't in position to make the play at all. There was another play where touchdown to Macklin in the right corner, right after he almost threw another touchdown to him, the play before that, and then for some reason,

Macklin decided to go up with one hand and try to catch it if he'd have just gone up with two hands. But then the very next play, they go to Macklin again in the back corner of the end zone, and Farley is on him. There was one corner on the field, and it was Butler at the time. On this play, think about this. They're in the red zone. Butler's the only corner on the field. There's three wide receivers, a tight end, and a running back, and they're in a four wide set, and we have one corner. And not only that, but our third safety, at least our third safety, maybe fourth, is covering Macklin at that position, at that spot. There was a lot

of coaching issues like that altogether. There was a play where the play previous to that, two or three Colts were missing tackles on this play, and Rashawn Melvin came in and mopped it up. In the very next play, they take Melvin out. Again, too many safeties on the field, not enough corners, very wishy-washy with some of their defensive play calls. I just don't understand a lot of it, but I thought, like I said, I thought the defense played pretty well against the run. At times they showed a pass rush. I was pretty pleased with that. I mean, it did seem like Foles at times was really kind of running for his life a lot, whether he was sacked or not. There was just a bunch of crap on Sunday.

I don't even know what to say about it. No, Pagano does not deserve to keep his job. We'll get that out of the way right now. And not only that, but something's got to give with these guys, this team. I'm not real sure what the issue is, but like I said, there were so many times when certain players just looked like they weren't even attempting to play. T.J. Green had terrible coverage on a lollipop throw. He was going downfield. He's looking up at the ball.

He takes his eyes off the ball, and when he does, the ball is hanging and starts to come down short, and Green overruns the receiver and then jumps up again. It should have actually probably been pass interference. It didn't end up being pass interference, but the guy caught the ball. It was just terrible. Foles is terrible, and the Colts made him look like a stud. This happens all the time. It's not going to change.

There are major issues on this team holistically from top to bottom in the roster, and they've got to get something figured out. Luck is getting murdered out there, and it's just not okay. I mean, you know, I am a fan of Denzel Good, but look, if the dude can't remember the playbook, get him out. Seriously, put somebody else in there who has got it figured out. I don't think that's Jonathan Harrison. Maybe it's Blythe.

I don't know who it is. I don't really care who it is. I mean, I don't care who they need to take out. Costanzo was pretty bad Sunday, you know. Haig, I can't say that I can recall anything that Hague did that was just terrible, but that whole line was pretty bad for the most part. Again, they run block pretty well. They have spells where they protect and luck has four and five seconds to throw the ball, but often that's three and sometimes with only four rushers. They'll never, he never gets time with more than four rushers. If the defense is bringing five

guys, Luck's getting hit. It's almost a certainty, and that's not okay. You've got five guys up there plus Doyle a lot of times trying to protect Luck. There's no reason that five guys should be guaranteed to at least have one of them getting to Luck on any given time. Any delayed blitzes, any stunts, any twists, anything that is not just straight up man up rushing against a protection, the Colts are going to get a lot of guy through. They're going to leak somebody through and luck's going to get hit. I just don't know what to say anymore. You know, we, we have these weeks off where we don't have to talk about Pagano as a crap coach. We have two weeks off or not weeks off, but we have weeks where we talk about the line playing pretty good or this and that. And these guys really looked in sync, you know, and this is

what happens. And this is the thing they were only down, like I said, two touchdowns at the end of this game where the Colts played like crap. The Chiefs didn't play very good either. But if Luck had a good game, he missed open receivers in this game. He threw a bad pick. He almost threw another one at the end of the game, which wouldn't have really made much of a difference at that time. But he overthrew Doyle when he was wide open

and made him jump for the ball on fall when he could have had another 15, 20 yards of yak after it. Same type thing with T.Y. Hilton. He had a couple times. He had one catch there at the end of the game, and I wasn't even sure that was a catch, to be honest with you. One of his catches, he had a big run early in the game that was called back for a Colts penalty, and there was another one where the Chiefs were off sides, and the Colts took the penalty and negated his

whatever six or seven yard reception on that one. So the official stat line for Hilton was one catch for 20 yards. That's unacceptable. There's no way that can happen. But Marcus Peters is a big, probably had a lot to do with that. I think he played pretty good ball. Didn't see him get a pick or anything like that. But if you don't see his name and you don't see T.Y. Hilton doing much, there's probably a reason for it. And as it has been over the past several weeks, Locked on Colts is brought to you by Mike Ernest of Century 21 Sheets. Colts fans, are you in the market to sell your home? If so, call Mike Ernest at Century 21 Sheets at 317-285-9691.

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The Colts couldn't force a turnover on Foles. And not only that, but they fumbled and threw a bad interception. So there's two turnovers, both in key points. The fumble turned it over deep in the Colts' territory. And then the interception, of course, led to a touchdown before the end of the half. And the interception led to a touchdown before the end of the half, which made it 17-7. And they were down three points before that not only that but that interception came on the very first play from scrimmage of that drive and it's just a wasted

why are we not at least trying to run on first down on there when we're down three and you at least want to just see what you got maybe maybe something works up the middle maybe it doesn't but you got timeouts. You can't take them with you. So use one, then try to do something, maybe. But it was a bad pass either way, regardless of what the design was or the play call or anything like that, to be quite honest with you. The good thing about the fumble, though,

is that Santos ended up missing his field goal attempt on that, banged it off the upright. So that kind of, you know, didn't hurt near as bad, but it was still a turnover, man. I mean, it was just, you know, luck took his eyes off the ball before the ball hit him in the hands. Stupid mistake. Not that, I mean, yeah, yes, big of a deal. Not big of a deal, though. I don't know how to characterize that it didn't turn into points so i i think i'm forgivable on our forgiving on that but all in all this colts team has so i mean this season's really lost i mean is it not it just seems like now that they're uh two games under 500 now whereas they had a chance to go they're're going to probably be three games under.500 after this next weekend in Lambeau. So the Colts, I mean, guys, I mean, their schedule gets kind of,

I wouldn't say brutal, but it just seems that it gets quite a bit harder, I guess. I mean, they will have already, by their bye, they will have already been through the Chiefs and Packers, two teams that the Colts, I don't know that too many people probably predict them to win those games preseason. I don't remember what I did actually, but I'll go back and look at it. But anyways, the second half of the season here starts with the Packers

before the buy. So they go to Lambeau. They host the Titans and Steelers. The Steelers just pummel the Colts notoriously in the past several years. They go to the Jets. The Colts can't beat the Jets for some reason either. The Jets have been awful in the past, and the Colts just can't beat them. I don't really understand why, but now may be the best opportunity to get them, but the Jets still have a solid defense, and they've got some playmakers, and they've got a running back and people who line up at tight end, which seems to be about the only thing that anybody needs to beat

the Colts defense, but then they host the Texans. Then they travel to the Vikings and Raiders in back-to-back weeks, and then they are finishing their season at home against the Jaguars. Man, they have to win that out. Think about this. They're 3-5 right now. Just to win eight or nine games, they can only lose two of those, depending on if you're talking eight or nine wins here. So think about this. At 3-5, this next week, they could end up being 3-6. Okay? So at that point, they have to go 5-2 the rest of the way just to finish 500. So they have games against the Steelers, Jets, Texans who they got beat by.

I mean, I'm not saying the Texans are good, but does it matter if they're good? Vikings and Raiders and Jaguars beat them too. So who are the five wins coming out of that group out of those seven games? We lose to the Vikings and Steelers and beat everybody else. Is it possible? Yeah, but that's just to finish 500 folks. It's so bad. It's so bad. This season's over as far as anything of substance. It doesn't matter. Let's say that the rest of the AFC South crumbles and goes to crap, and that's totally possible too, and the Colts still somehow end up pulling out a playoff berth.

It doesn't matter. I mean, the Colts have proven that they're poorly coached. They don't execute. They have too many screw-ups. It's either a really bad penalty day where they're just getting stupid penalties after stupid penalties, negating plays, negating touchdowns. Or they're, you know, luck's getting sacked 45 times a game. Or luck may have a bad game. Like I told you guys the other day, you know,

eventually luck's going to have not a great game and he just had one. So, I mean, you could say that he didn't play great the first couple of games of the season, but he clearly came roaring back after the rest of his team kind of left him in the gutter there and brought them back, at least in contention. So this is just a really pitiful thought about this game Sunday. It was ugly. The Colts don't have a coach. They shouldn't have a coach. We've all gone through the same thing.

The Colts need to find somebody else to lead their team. I believe they need an offensive-minded head coach that can go seek out a top-level defensive coordinator, not his buddy from a past team or not somebody else that somebody who I really trust, blah, blah, blah, says is good. Go get a top-notch guy. Luck needs an offensive-minded guy. Give it to him. Bring in a top-level defensive coordinator. Find out where all of your weak points on this roster are and do something about it. going to end up wasting over half of Andrew Luck's career trying to tie Pagano and Grigson together, or trying to keep Pagano because he likes him, or trying to keep Grigson because he thinks he's a smart guy. It's the end of the road, folks. Whether it happens in season, whether it happens at the end of the season, I don't know and I don't care, but there is no reason for either one of them to be employed with the

Indianapolis Colts anymore. That seems so obvious, does it not? I mean, it really does. I don't know any other coach that can be this bad in game and have this bad of a response to so many situations in the past couple seasons and expect to keep their job. Who does that? Who's going to keep their job? Apparently Chuck Pagano. I mean, is Chuck Pagano the new Fisher or what? Where he can do it every once, they extend him and then they just keep him around because they like what he says and they like him. I mean, you know, it's the end of the road. Toot that horn. Pagano, your ship has sailed here.

Thank you for being a great person for Indianapolis. But you're not a great coach for the Colts. And, you know, I think I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up on that, fellas. So thank you for joining me for another Angry Monday on Locked On Colts. It's too bad that we keep having to do this. I wouldn't even care if the Colts had the same record, if the Colts were being coached well and the team just couldn't play with their opponents.

But I do believe that the Colts have some talent on this roster. I don't think they're not talented. I think that it really lies with coaching staff. Something has to happen to where they're refining their skills because I do think they've got some quality players. I don't know why they can't seem to execute the simplest of things though. But that's the world we're living in right now as Colts fans. So we're going to have to get over it and we're going to have to come back tomorrow and I will be here to tell all of you, whatever it is I have to tell you on Tuesday.

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