Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - LOCKED ON COLTS 3/11/20: Talking through top possibilities for picks 13, 34, 44 for Colts

Episode Date: March 11, 2020

On today's episode, Zach Hicks of Stampede Blue joins to talk through the Colts' best options during the 2020 draft. With three picks in the first 44 selections, GM Chris Ballard has lots of ammunition to add top talent.What would we do in this situation? We go through the best options at 13, including Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, Javon Kinlaw, Henry Ruggs, and K'Lavon Chaisson.Based off No. 13, what should the Colts do? Assuming under QB and non-QB scenarios, we try to predict which prospects best fit Indy's top priorities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, everybody. Welcome back into your latest episode of Locked On Colts, probably Locked On Podcast Network. Today, as always, we're with Evan Sager and I'm joined by our weekly guest on the show, Zach Hicks of State People. How are you doing today, Zach? Pretty good, man. It's been a while since I've been on with, you know, draft season and all-season mode that we've been in. So it's good to be back on and thanks for having me. Yeah, no problem at all. I know you've been busy this time of year, draft season.

It's really just one of my favorite times of the year, especially now, right now. But we can for free and see the drafts in about five, six weeks. We're in the peak part of the offseason here, which is super exciting for, I think, a lot of Colts fans here because this feels like the most anticipated offseason in a very long time. But we're going to spend most of today's show talking with Zach about maybe our best case scenario, what the best options are for the Colts at the first three rounds of the draft, 13, 34, 44, and 75, two picks in the second round. So we'll start off here, Zach.

I was actually just reading the last couple of days of reports and stuff, and it seems like maybe I don't know about you, Zach, but it feels like the Chargers kind of hold the Colts card, so to say, at the quarterback spot here because if they don't go with Justin Herbert at number six or Jordan Love at six, and they, let's say, go Teddy Bridgewater or Trevor Cam Newton, then they're probably going to take off to tackle at six. If you get past them at six and Carolina's team's pretty intent on waiting

until 2021, taking Petr Lawrence, just scratching them off the board there, there's a very good chance here that the Colts might have their own choice at 13 between Justin Herbert and Jordan Love, which I would have never thought would happen about a month ago. Yeah, you know, it's draft season. There's a lot of reports and smoke screens and everything going out there right now. And yeah, you know, a lot of things could happen. Who knows?

I mean, the scenario could happen where, like, obviously Burrow's going to go number one to the Bengals. I think that's the only thing really set in stone. But, you know, does Tua go to the Redskins at two? I don't know if that's really possible or really plausible, but that could happen. I mean, Tua goes to the Dolphins is probably, you know, one of the more mocked things right there.

But, you know, if Tua goes to the Redskins, does Jordan Love go to the Dolphins? You know, there's a lot of dominoes that could fall. Maybe Carolina likes one of these guys a lot, and they're just kind of leaking that Trevor Lawrence stuff so nobody tries to jump them. You know, Chargers might still go the quarterback. And then there could be teams trading from behind the Colts

that trade up into there and get one of those guys. So, you know, there's a hundred different ways it could go. That's just the beauty of draft season, the beauty of the NFL draft itself. So, personally, even if, you know, say the Chargers sign a Teddy Bridgewater or they trade for Cam or whatever they may do this offseason, sign Tom Brady even, I would still prefer the Colts to look for that trade-up if they really love one of those quarterbacks and they see them slipping because you never know with the NFL today I mean I remember when I was a little kid uh the Redskins really liked Aaron Rodgers and

they were going to take Aaron Rodgers on the late part of the first round but they just kind of waited and they trade up right behind the Packers and the Packers end up taking Rodgers and the Redskins got Jason Campbell so you just can't be you know too complacent with it you got to be aggressive if that quarterback really is who you want. And if it is Jordan Love, if it is Justin Herbert, then even if you see him pass that Chargers pick, I would say still try to trade up and get your guy. At this point in the process, Zach, where would you lean as far as Herbert versus Luck? I feel like it's gotten a lot closer in the last month or two since we last talked. And really, Jordan Love's closing the

gap because of his potential and his upside and probably his arm town as well i we just had jordan reid the draft network on the show yesterday and he mentioned he had jordan love at his qb3 where would you rank herbert and love right now because we have a clear crystal clear uh one and two with burrow and two but who's your third yeah so love has been my qB3 since like November, I think. And even though Herbert, I think, has done some good things throughout this process, I'd still take Love as my quarterback three, mainly because, you know, what we've talked about in this podcast before, I just think his upside is a little bit higher than Herbert's.

And honestly, I kind of like his floor a little bit better than Herbert's do, which is kind of crazy to think when you look at their stat lines. But I think a lot of what you kind of see with Love's film is a guy trusting his arm too much and playing with guys who just aren't great talent-wise. And you kind of saw a lot of struggles that way. Obviously, he has a lot of work to do. His accuracy is a... Well, I wouldn't say his accuracy. I would say his kind of just consistency is a little all over the place right now. And I think he does need to improve that. I think he needs to be more in rhythm going forward as he gets to the NFL. But a lot of my fears with Herbert come from, you know, he's staying the same very stagnant, very simplistic offense in college.

And I just don't love that kind of step he's going to have to take here, going to the NFL right away with, you know, going from just bubble screen slant streak offense that he ran at Oregon, coming to the NFL and having to, you know, read a whole offense, read a defense, and also improve on some of his, you know, inconsistent flaws and stuff like that and misthrows that he made. So I actually just feel more comfortable overall with Jordan Love than I do with Justin Herbert. I think both are very talented, very flawed prospects.

But as of right now, I prefer Jordan Love, you know, for the Colts pick at 13 also as my quarterback three. And looking outside the quarterbacks for a second here, to round up maybe the guys we're going to talk about at 13, I know you're very high on Henry Ruggs. I think it's a very good possibility he's on the board still at 13. Jerry Judy could be on the board too. Henry Ruggs does go, let's say, at 12 to Vegas.

What do you think about Ruggs and Judy and also maybe the defensive guys here? I think they're going to be guaranteed on the board, honestly, at this point. That's something really, really weird shakes out with Caleb on chase on LSU and John Kim off South Carolina. Yeah, you know, there's a ton of ways that this could fall. I mean, no one would have thought Derwin James a couple years ago would have been available, I think, at 14 or 15 for the Chargers pick. And maybe we could see a fall like that for Isaiah Simmons. I doubt it, just because he had this elite combine where he

would have been the best athlete ever at like 12 different positions in combine history. So he probably doesn't fall, but who knows? We never really know how these guys are going to fall until we kind of get to draft night. Even then, it's still up in the air as it's happening. But starting with the receivers there, Henry Ruggs, I think is, is going to be the highest graded receiver I've ever had. And I've been doing this since I think 2016, probably right ahead of Michael Thomas the year he came out, I had him as my seventh overall player that year. But Henry Ruggs, I think when you just turn on that film, you just see a guy who possesses this elite speed and elite just quickness and fluidity that just really very few players

ever have. I mean, I've seen it with Deshaun Jackson. I've seen it with Tyreek Hill. But besides that, I really haven't seen players move like him before. And just the way that he wins, he doesn't win just by being fast. He wins with, you know, route running, good releases, really strong hands. He's not afraid to go over the middle and in traffic. I just think overall you have a very, very complete player with a really high ceiling because he also has that elite speed and that go-to. So if Henry Ruggs was to pick at 13, you know, I would still prefer that quarterback. But if the quarterbacks are all gone, you know, somehow it plays out that way.

Yeah, Henry Ruggs I think would be a great addition. And then Jerry Judy as well. I mean, I think his route running is outstanding. I think he's got a really, really high floor in the league because I think that, you know, at the end of the day, he's always going to have that route running and that twitchiness with the way he moves. So I think, yeah, he'd be another really good safe pick there at 13. And then with Kinlaw and Chison, you know, that pass rush is big.

You know, we talked about it all the time last year, the Colts did not have a great pass rush. It was mostly just Justin Houston doing it himself after Kamoka Turi went down. So, yeah, getting a guy like Kinlaw who has, you know, sky-high potential, who could be maybe a Chris Jones-type player in the NFL, or getting a guy like Chison who, you know, he's a little bit undersized, but he plays like he's just a normal-sized defensive end,

and he has that kind of effort, intensity, and sky-high upside. So, yeah, I think any of those guys would be good picks at 13. You know, preferably there's a quarterback still there or they have keyed in on one of their quarterbacks they like. But if they decide to address the position here in free agency or they want to wait until 2021 or so be it uh yeah i think any of those guys would be really good picks at 13. as of today's like you're in the just the early parts of march how would you cluster let's say those side guys we talked about there with jordan love justin herbert henry rugs

and you have kim long chase on if all five are on the board that are 13, how would you rank them A to E? Okay, yeah. To start with that, I would have Love at number one and then Herbert at two. I just think that quarterback is just so important. And regardless of what I have these guys ranked wise, because Henry Ruggs is going to be, I think, a top five overall player in this class for me by the end of it. And I think Jordan Love and Herbert will probably be in the 20s or so for me.

I just think that quarterback position is way too important. So, yeah, Love and Herbert, my top two, and then Ruggs will be my number three. Then I'd probably go Chai San at number four, and then Kin Law at five, even though I might like Kin Law a little bit more as a prospect. I just think Chai San, I think, is a little bit more important for the culture now getting more of that kind of talent on the edge there, but you know, you know, you could kind of switch those last three around any kind of way. They could pick any of those last three guys. I really like all three of them. I think there are, you know, all three of

them are top 15 players in this class. So yeah, I mean, preferably quarterback, but again, those, those other three guys are really talented and I would love to have them on the Colts. Before we go into the 34 part of this show, just diving into the guys in the second round, it makes sense for this team. We haven't touched much on Caleb on Chase on this show, and I wanted to talk about him with you for a second, Zach, because I feel like the closer we get to this draft, the more I feel like he's kind of a Ballard type of draft pick,

especially with the report interest they had last year in Brian Burns. He went before, obviously, the Colts went in the draft, but reportedly a lot of interest the Colts had in him at the time. And if they like Brian Burns, I think they're going to absolutely love Caleb on chase with his burst and his elite athleticism on the edge there. What do you think his upside is? I think it's pretty good.

I think the rare thing about Chison, which doesn't get talked about enough, you know, with Burns, he was your classic super speedy, super bendy, super quick guy who could just, you know, make tackles look really embarrassed on an island out there. But with Chison, what you have is a guy who maybe isn't as polished or as nuanced as a player like Burns, but he is really physically rugged and strong for a guy his size. I mean, he looks like a safety up in the box,

especially because you watch his film and he's wearing number 18. So he looks like he's like a safety up in the box or something like that. But you'll see him set the edge against sweet plays and stuff, run plays, and he just locks it down out there. He's got really strong hands, and he makes a lot of plays in the run. And then, you know, the sack production wasn't great throughout his college career, but you can definitely see the flashes and the moments of his potential. So, yeah, I think he's definitely a bit of a project,

and I think he's more of a project than maybe even Burns was last year. But I think you have so much to work with right away that I think he could be a really good player in the NFL. Under the scenario, Zach, I'll just say we go on this rabbit hole for a second. They do go a Jordan Love at 13. What would you immediately attack at 34? Would you go wide out at that point uh you know it definitely depends on how the board falls you know if if say a guy

like Jalen Rager or LaVisca Chennault are there or even Brandon Ayuk I think that I would be very very interested in one of those guys at 34 but you never know if a really talented player slips out of the first round you know maybe one of the top four tackles slips, maybe, you know, like an Andrew Thomas somehow slips a 34. I don't really see that happening, but say that he slips a 34. I think that'd be really hard to pass up or, or maybe one of these really talented defensive tackles, defensive ends, you know, AJ Epinesa, if he slips a 34 somehow after, after kind of a tough combine.

So there are definitely a lot of ways that it would fall there, but I think with the talent in this wide receiver class and with some of the guys who fit Ballard's need probably being around there, I really think I would probably look at the wide receiver position if I went quarterback in the first round. I agree with you there. I think one guy I'm really starting to fall in love with, I don't even know if he's going to be there at this point because it seems like everyone's buying the buzz on him, and that's Denzel Mims of Baylor. What's your thought on Mims, Zach? Because I feel like he's the type of guy, if we're thinking of Devin Funches last year, the kind of big guy that Frank Reich fell in love with,

they want to put in his offense. I feel like Denzel Mims is the upgraded version of Devin Funches, and I feel like Frank Reich would be falling head over heels for us. Yeah, so with Mims, you know, the combine hype and senior bowl hype definitely get people, I think, a little bit higher than where he should be in this class. And, you know, I'm not saying it's not deserved. I mean, he had a really freaky combine, and he was obviously the best receiver down there at the senior bowl. So, you know, all this buzz is definitely well warranted for him.

But for me, you know, when you turn the film, you see that athleticism. You see the contested catchability. You see the way that he can move out there and some of the plays he can make. I think my only real concerns with him are his hands are being consistent. He has those drops. He has some concentration drops, kind of like a Pontius as he was coming to Indianapolis. But also, I don't think the route running is quite there yet. For a guy with his athleticism, he really didn't separate too much at Baylor.

And I think that's a bit of a concern. But overall, I think what you're looking at is a guy with a great size, a great mentality, has all the athleticism in the world, and can make a lot of those really tough plays and really bail a quarterback out. So, you know, I don't know if I'd have him graze a first-round pick, probably a second-rounder for me, maybe an early-to-mid second-round guy is where I'm going to have him. But, yeah, I pick, probably a second-rounder for me, maybe an early-to-mid second-round guy is where I'm going to have him.

But, yeah, I mean, if a team takes him the first, I'd absolutely understand if the Colts took him at 34. It makes a lot of sense. And one more thing to note is his run blocking, which never really gets talked about for receivers unless we're talking about Zach Paschal for the Colts last year, who was excellent in that department. Denzel Mims is a really good run blocker,

and I asked him about it down at the Senior Bowl. And, yeah, his face lit up. He got super excited. He loves talking about his run blocking. It's something that he's really proud of, and that's definitely something the Colts coaching staff really looks at, especially, again, looking at guys like Paschal and even Chester Rogers the last couple of years was a good run blocker. So yeah, I definitely think he fits a lot of what the Colts like and what the Colts need. And if he's there at 34, I think that could be a very logical pick. But at this point, I don't know if he'll be there at 34. If I'm not mistaken, Zach, I believe you had Brandon Ayuk as your build-up Bauer type of guy,

as far as who Bauer might like the most from your series you do on Stampede Blue. And if I'm wrong on that, correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe with a guy like Brandon Ayuk, he fits so much of the box for this Colts team, especially character- wrong on the correct me but I believe with a guy Brandon Ayuk he fits so much the box for this Colts team especially character wise on the field you look how explosive he has yards as a catch and bow has mentioned multiple times he just wants guys who can get get the ball and go and score and I feel like Ayuk is definitely that that kind of ideal complement to a T.Y. Hilton where he could be almost like a Debo Samuel we saw last year yeah yeah for sure uh Brandon Ayuk is the guy that I actually personally don't love in this class. I do like him.

I think he's, you know, like a late second-round player for me in this class. But, you know, when I see him, I just see kind of that perfect Ballard mold. And if any of you listening are not familiar with the Build a Ballard series, I just go back through all of Chris Ballard's draft picks at the time with the Colts and also a lot of his time with the Chiefs. Even though he didn't really directly pick those players to the Chiefs, he definitely had some influence. So I'm trying to see kind of what traits and what aspects he looks for

in certain positions. And with wide receiver, I mean, it was a lot of, you know, players would have good wingspans, guys who were at the Senior Bowl, guys who can make plays after the catch, guys who are really good athletes, and, you know, guys who are just explosive and can just kind of do things with the ball in their hand. And, you know, we kind of saw that mold hit perfectly with Paris Campbell last year and what Ballard took. And this year I think A.U. kind of fits that really well.

You know, he's a little bit raw as a route runner. He's a little bit raw getting off press and getting down the field. But once he gets off the line, he can get vertical. And once he gets the ball in his hand in the short and intermediate game, I mean, he's really hard to get down. He had a great combine. He had a good senior bowl. I mean, especially the media part because he didn't really practice all week, but he had a good senior bowl, you know, media time and meetings with the coaches. So I just think he checks a lot of boxes that the Colts look for. And think that you know if he's available at 34 I think that could be a very logical pick I mean he jumped out of the gym at the combine and he had a pretty good overall time there and

a good senior season so yeah I definitely think he could be a good fit for the Colts. I think the last receiver should hit on here as far as a realistic option 34 I feel like he's going to be on the board personally at this point is LaVisca of colorado knew what i thought that a couple months ago especially at the beginning of the season with how much hype he had unfortunately it's been injuries that are slowing him down and that kind of worries me honestly zach because i know maybe just recently by us the colts but i don't want to have another situation we saw last year at paris camp i know those freak injuries in paris it's not really an injury history with them, but I don't want to have that maybe risk with Chennault, but the upside, he's obviously huge with him.

Yeah, you know, it's tough because Chennault, you definitely see the athletic ability on tape. A lot of people point out that 4-5-5 combine, but he ran a 4-5-5 with, you know, I don't know exactly what the injury was, but I think it was a fracture

to his pubic bone or something like that is what it was. And he still ran a four, five, five. I think overall, that's pretty freaky. I don't really think I can even walk 40 yards if I had injury, you know, anywhere down that area. So I think that just as a testament to how much of an athlete and how much a competitor he is. But, you know, on the field, there are some question marks when it comes to the route running and overall play as a receiver for him. But, yeah, it's an all upside, all risk, all upside pick if you were to take Gallagher-Chanel because the injury history there, he's not really fully developed as a receiver. But, man, what he can do with the ball in his hands and what he really could be in the NFL, I think that there's a lot

to like. So, you know, if the Colts or whoever takes a chance on him in that second round, I definitely would understand it. Maybe the second round pick, if he falls that far for the Colts, I think that'd be interesting. But yeah, I'm with you. I think the injury history is definitely concerning, especially for a team that had, you know, Andrew Luck retired before the season started and had Paris Campbell go through all that and Devin Funchess have his own injury to start the year and T.Y. Hilton battling injuries. It was a very injury-plagued season for the Colts, so I could understand that they had fear going into this draft

with a guy like LaVisca Chennault. We should also hit on Zaga. Going down the scenario, they do good quarterback at 13. Defense tackle in round two, I think, definitely makes a lot of sense alongside wide receiver. I think the first guys to hit on in that 34-44 range are Neville Gallimore of Oklahoma and Ross Black from TCU. Both guys might not even have been on the board at 34,

but what's your thoughts on both those guys? They seem like really good. Yeah, yeah, they definitely beat the Colts because they have a lot of that athleticism, and they're very good in that kind of one-gap type of scheme. You know, a lot of nose tackles, because that's what both of them are they're both nose tackles they don't really fit that three tech mold that that ballard said he's looking for this offseason they're kind of more of that that one tech on the inside uh but yeah they have the athletic ability to really

shoot gaps and that's kind of where margus hunt had his explosion uh for the colts not last year but the year before where he was just able to get up field and shoot gaps and disrupt plays i think golly gallimore or golly blacklock could really uh excel in that role so yeah i can for the Colts not last year but the year before where he was just able to get up field and shoot gaps and disrupt plays. I think Gallimore or Gallick Blacklock could really excel in that role. So, yeah, I can definitely see those guys as fits there on the inside. You know, they're both still kind of growing. I think Blacklock right now is a little bit better than a player like Gallimore, but Gallimore is just such a freak athlete that it's kind of tough to kind of gauge where you take those two guys.

But, yeah, I think either one of them would be a pretty solid pick there at 34-44. I think another defense tackle on this list here, Zach, Justin Matabuke of Texas A&M. I feel like he's more of a natural three tech. He's a guy I think could be more in that. If they do, let's say, go 13 Jordan Love, 34 Brandon Ayuk, I think 44 Matabuke might be there. I feel like he might be actually a good fit as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think he's definitely a a good fit as well. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I think he's definitely a better fit, in my opinion, than those other two guys just because, yeah, he has more of that natural three technique. He plays with really good leverage, really good hand strength, really good gap penetration. I just think that he's overall a better fit for the Colts than those other two guys. But, yeah, we'll have to see where he falls, though,

because he's really interesting because I don't know if he fits every single team's kind of scheme up front uh so he could go you know late first round he could go mid to late second round i just think it's all gonna kind of be a fit with him uh but yeah his film was outstanding he has a lot of really good moments on film where he wins with uh just you know leveraging his pads and getting up the middle and uh really penetrating those gaps so yeah i think he could be a really good fit for the Colts as well. That's definitely a guy I really like for them. I think also we should get on maybe developmental tackles as well because Anthony Costanzo, it's been mentioned multiple times,

Stephen Holder read it right today on a tweet that it's going to be a one-year deal for Costanzo this year, going year to year at this point. So, two or three years tops you have now with A.C. Zach. So, you have to think maybe in a third round or even earlier than that maybe 34 or 44 a left tackle might be in play for this team and how much chris ballard values the trenches would that surprise you at all if they do go tackle that early and maybe there were some names you could think of as far as in that 44 to 75 range yeah yeah no it would not surprise me whatsoever if Ballard went tackle at 44, 75,

or even went tackle at 34. I think that Ballard values that offensive line play so high. It's definitely something that he really likes to hang his hat on. So yeah, I definitely could see him throw on some picks, like some early picks at it. I mean, we saw right when he first got to Indy, not his first year drafting, but his second year, he spent, you know, the sixth overall pick and the 35th overall pick on offensive linemen and really shored up that whole line. So, yeah, I definitely think that's something that he's going to address in this draft. It might be earlier than a lot of people are willing to accept. But, yeah, there's a really, really talented offensive tackle group.

You know, we got the top four guys who should be like top 10, top 15 picks. They're all really talented. But, you know, know after that there's a lot of intriguing guys you know Matthew Pert out of UConn uh was down the senior bowl fits a lot about what Ballard liked with that but he had an insane uh wingspan he kind of could get anybody from from any angle and he's just a road grader in the run game I mean he just runs over guys uh as a run blocker which I know is something that Ballard and the Colts will like uh he definitely needs to develop a guys as a run blocker, which I know is something that Ballard and the Colts will like. He definitely needs to develop a bit as a pass blocker. He did have some struggles down the senior bowl.

But, you know, if you're looking for a guy to really develop, I think in that 44-75 range, Matthew Pert would be a really good fit. And then other guys, you know, Ezra Cleveland from Boise State just had an insane combine, which, you know, was kind of alluded to with his tape and also with what a lot of people reported that he was going to have that insane combine combine but also has connections to uh strasser and and uh clayton adams they both uh coached at boise state they both uh you know really familiar with that program uh so i'm sure they've had their eye on cleveland for a couple years so uh you know

cleveland could be another guy who really fits in that 44 to 75 range and then you know a couple other guys i'll just rattle off here you know luc, Lucas Yang out of TCU. He's really talented player. I mean, he's a really good pass walker. He just kind of had his injury issues the last couple of years, but I think he's going to be a really good player. So if they can get him at 44, I think that's kind of a steal there. And then, you know, even Josh Jones, he could, he could fall out at first round with a kind of average combine.

And I think he had a really good senior bowl and he has some really good tape. So there's definitely a lot of options for the Colts in this draft. It's, you know, personally, in my opinion, I think the offensive tackle group is actually deeper than the wide receiver group that people are kind of hyping up. I think this is the best tackle class I've seen in my lifetime, you know, scouting the game or even following the game. I just think there's so many good offensive tackles in this class and there's a lot of directions they could go. So luckily the Colts have that need for a developmental tackle in a really deep class.

Last question I have for you Zach, appreciate your time as always. I just actually did a mock draft sim while you were talking there through the left tackle options. And let's just say hypothetically, this is their first three rounds. Okay. Jordan Love at 13, Brandon Ayuk at 34, Justin Matabike at 44, and Matthew Parrott at 75. Is that a home run kind of draft for the Colts? Yeah, you know, I think you kind of hit on a lot of what the Colts are,

you know, needing in this class. You know, they need that quarterback. They need someone to develop and someone who they can really work with to kind of have a future for this team. And I think Jordan Love is that. And then I think at 34, with a guy like Ayoub, you know, you have a guy who not only can get open deep and win vertically, but also can win underneath and make some plays.

So I really love that pick as well. And then, you know, we talked about Matabuke. And, yeah, his fit with his defense is great. And then Matthew Kerr, you know, I just rambled on about him. I really love his fit as a developmental guy. And kind of, you know, also is that swing tackle behind Smith and Costanzo, who, you know, Joe Haag might be leaving this year. We don't really know what's going to happen with that.

But, yeah, getting a guy like Pert to kind of be that swing tackle and be a developmental guy, I think that would be a great fit. So, yeah, I definitely think it's a home run draft for sure. All right, Zach, we're less than a week away from free agency here. And before I let you go here, any big things you expect from this Colts team as we approach free agency here? Because I feel like the legal temporary period opens here in about three or

four days. And do you think we'll hear anything about the Colts, about what these top way frees, you guys like Jadaven, Connie or any guys like that? What do you think? Well, my one prediction that's guaranteed to come true is I know we're going to hear about the Colts team in on all these guys,

or at least some of them, just because people trying to look for easy stories, although the Colts out there as a name is interested because they have so much cap space. But, you know, I think it's interesting because, you know, last offseason, we all thought the Colts should have spent because they had their window. You know, you had Andrew Luck. It's a time for winning, you know, and you have an easy pitch to free agents. You can say, hey, we have Andrew Luck. We have a chance of winning this thing. Come play for us. I think it's a little tougher now because there is that, you know, it's just that fear of quarterback play. You don't know who it's going to be.

You don't know what kind of the deal is going to be there going forward. So I think we'll see. I do think the Colts will be in the quarterback market. I think they'll be looking at maybe a guy like Phillip Rivers, maybe a Tom Brady, probably not. But I think they'll be looking at quarterbacks, maybe even looking at the trade market with Nick Foles. But we'll have to see with that. And then I think he'll kind of be somewhat status quo with Chris Pratt.

I think he'll definitely dip his toes into the big free agent market and try to land one of those top guys. But I don't think he's going to pay more than what he thinks these guys are worth. If that's enough to grab these guys in free agency, awesome. But I just don't really think he's going to overpay because it's not really his philosophy. But one thing we know for sure, he's going to grab a bunch of guys who are – he'll grab a bunch of guys that are good values

and guys that we, you know, at first, that first look we don't think are going to be major contributors, and then they end up being pretty good for the team. We've seen that for a couple of years with Chris Ballard. So, you know, I would just say for all Colts fans getting ready for the pre-agency period, just, you home. Get excited for it. Hopefully we can land a big guy in free agency, but either way, I feel like Mallard's going to be

fine and grab some good players. Yeah, it's going to be a very fun free agency period here. Zach, appreciate you coming on as always. You can follow him on Twitter at ZachHicks2. Read his work over on Stampede Blue. Appreciate the time, man.