Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - LOCKED ON COLTS -3/24- Analyzing Colts Offseason Acquisitions W/@KevinHickey11

Episode Date: March 24, 2017

A new voice to the #Colts fanbase, Kevin Hickey of USA-Today's Colts Wire, stops in to talk with Matt about how he sees the offseason additions, their contracts and the overall mindset of the organization at this point. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just a couple news and notes that we're going to go through today. And then we're going to get us a new member of Colts Nation on the line here. And I'll introduce him here in just a little bit. But first, I want to go through a couple things that have happened in the past couple days. First and foremost, the Colts signed Kamar Aiken, wide receiver, played in Baltimore over the past few seasons. And we've talked about this briefly as far as what he can bring to the Colts offense and kind of how he's going to shake out as far as where he'll be on the depth chart and so on and so forth before they actually sign him.

But now we're going to go through kind of just what I expect to see from him and what probably his role will be. And as we get into it, basically what Kamar Aiken is, is a fantastic possession receiver with speed in this offense. Okay, now with Colts have got their speed with T.Y. Hilton. They've got Dante Moncrief, who has emerged as kind of their wide receiver red zone threat. At least he was last year. He wasn't quite in that role before, but has now kind of emerged in that way. Whether that stays similar or not is kind of left to just what we'll see. You know, I don't know if that's an issue of opportunity as far as why he was so productive in the red zone, or if it was just a mixture of, you know, who was open,

who wasn't, you know, it just kind of depends on that, whether they put the focus on him in the red zone or if it was just a mixture of you know who was open who wasn't you know it just kind of depends on that whether they put the focus on him in the red zone or if it was just you know like I said that's just how it shook out so it's kind of hard to tell in that in that regard but Aitken over the past couple years has been really productive I mean last year wasn't quite his forte wasn't quite quite the receiver that we had, but he had said recently after the signing that he didn't really feel like the Ravens were giving him much of an opportunity in the 2016 season. Now, that 2015 season was phenomenal. 127 targets, 75 catches, almost 1,000 yards, and five touchdowns. Now, within 2014 and 2016 combined, he only had four touchdowns and just about 600 yards between those two seasons and just over 50 catches. So that one season, 2015, he was more productive than the two previous seasons or the two other seasons that he had been

in Baltimore, including 2016. This brings, I think, an interesting and exciting dynamic to the Colts receiving core, to be quite honest with you. The Colts have had issues with Philip Dorsett really living up to, even if he was to have been drafted as a second round receiver. This is, you know, something that has been plaguing him throughout his career. He's had a few drops and a lot, you know, I think that drops are something that each website, regardless of who you go to or wherever you see, is going to be the issue where they count drops differently. I don't think that there's been many that have had him more than three or four drops. However, I think that when you combine route structure, the way he runs his

routes and the drops that have been perceived with him, he's been solid in that. Although, it seems like a lot of his drops have come in big moments or just inopportune moments for him and have looked far worse than what they actually are as a whole. He's had some fantastic catches and all in all, I think that Dorsett's a really good route runner. If you look at his crispness to his routes, how he breaks them off, he's done very good. When you look at kind of adversely how he is setting up the corner to break on his routes as far as where he breaks on his routes, where he finds the top of his route. That's another issue, but his routes are clean. I mean, his routes are good. He'll break them off more at a 90-degree angle than even T.Y. Hilton. T.Y. Hilton rounds

his off quite a bit, so I think there's still a lot to work with with Dorsett, despite him being somewhat disappointing up until now. But Kamar Aitken brings a little bit of everything to that. I mean, brings that speed. He brings that catchability. He high points a lot of balls, and he's very accurate as far as where he breaks off his routes as well. And that's something that's going to come into play quite a bit here, not just with Dorsett.

And I don't think – Dorsett and he are nothing alike as far as what kind of a receiver they are. So let's not compare them in that regard. But the fact of the matter is, is that they will be competing for time on the field if he comes in and impresses and looks like his 2015 form, Kamar Aiken that is. But more realistically, what he's going to do is he is going to be battling Chester Rogers and Quan Bray for that fourth spot on the depth chart in the receiving core. And this is something that is, like I said, he's a little bigger, he's a little more physical than Chester Rogers. And Quan Bray's kind of a bigger guy, but I don't think that they are quite as high on him as a receiver

as they are a return guy. Now, all this can change because all this competition mantra and stuff in the Colts locker room and with Chris Ballard is going to change. I mean, whoever plays the best and whoever puts forth the best effort and looks best in camp is gonna play I mean that's what Ballard is preaching to Pagano and Pagano in my opinion is probably more apt to do that I don't think Pagano's really a he's my guy he's gonna play so much uh all that all the time I think that a lot of the pressure from Grigson was that Grigson wanted

certain guys to play over others but you know camp competition is going to be vital this year it's going to be probably the most interesting training camp that we've seen in a long time and Kamar Aiken really adds to that I mean Kamar Aiken could very viably be the number three receiver and if to be quite honest with you, if Dante Moncrief doesn't improve or stay on the field, Aitken could be a number two. I mean, and he's built to be a number two. There's no problem with that. Whether he actually pans out in that regard is, you know, another story. It just depends on how everything shakes out. But there could be a really strange-looking wide receiver core when it comes down to it. And I don't mean personnel necessarily.

I just mean in how they get on the field and who gets what looks and how many targets and everything else. It'll be interesting to see how they all put it all together, including Chudzinski with this with this offense because the offense has been something that the Colts have really not had to mess with too much in free agency or anything like that other than adding a little bit of depth on the offensive line and deciding on the tight end position there where they've traded away Dwayne Allen and re-sign Jack Doyle to a hefty contract so I'm interested to see in how the depth chart shakes out more than anything. And that'll tell us a lot about what's going to happen going forward into the 2018 season as far as how intact this wide receiver core is going to be. Moncrief's got to show out,

and especially Dorsett, he's got to show out. More than anything, Moncrief just has to stay on the field. If he does that, he's going to be plenty productive in this Colts offense. He's a fantastic receiver. So if he can stay on the field, he'll be here. Dorsett's got to be a little more than just productive. He's got to be productive, and he's got to prove that he can have some big catches in big moments and get some separation in this offense. On the other side of things, the Colts did re-sign Darius Butler, which I, as you know, I'm in favor of as far as on a leadership standpoint

and how he affects this defense. He's a good guy. He's a very good ball hawking type safety in that role. He's also, you know, a depth piece for the cornerback position should some injuries occur. But I think that by all accounts, he's going to be the guy back there at more or less the free role in the safety next to Clayton Gethers. I think that they're really hoping for T.J. Green to bounce back and be productive. But that's up in the air.

That's very much not a sure thing at all. I'm not very high on T.J. Green, especially in coverage, and Butler certainly adds to that role as far as being a good coverage guy back there. He'll be very helpful, but one of the things that happened within the past couple of days was one of my free agent targets at the safety position was signed by the Seahawks on a one-year deal for $2 million, and that's Bradley McDougald. Now, I don't know how the Colts passed up going after him for such a cheap contract. I mean, he's going to be 27 next year, which obviously brings the youth. And he also, I mean, $750,000 base contract. He's 6'2", 15, plenty physical against the run.

He's good in coverage, four interceptions over the past two years. He had 14 passes defended. He had 87 total tackles in 2015 and 91 last year. So this guy's good and physical and younger. I'm really confused as to why they chose either not to target him or why Darius Butler was the better option. Now let's look at the couple things. Yes, Butler has the leadership aspect in all this. He's a good ball hawk in safety. I think McDougald is good in coverage. Maybe it's really hard to say whether Butler is better than him or not in coverage,

to be quite honest with you, at this safety position. We've seen Butler look good, but McDougald's been – I mean, he is a ball hawk too, and he is lightning going towards the ball. He's very good at not only just breaking up passes with his hands, but employing hits to jar the ball loose on moment-to-moment catch then hit. So that's something else that, in my opinion, was very necessary to bring into the Colts defense this year, youth and, you know, the ability to break on a ball and physicality. And so while Butler has that physicality too, he's a little more frail. I mean, let's just be honest, he is.

So really, when you look at things, if all things are equal, I mean, McDougald is a safety, has been a safety since he's come into the league in 2013. Butler is transitioning to safety. And really the only thing that Butler brings that McDougald wouldn't, at least theoretically, is the leadership role. So I'm a little surprised that the Colts went that route or didn't go that route with McDougald. And now he goes to the Seahawks on a cheap deal. I mean, cheap deal. And it was done late in free agency. As we've seen, everything now is going to – the prices are going to drop on guys.

So I'm just really surprised that the Colts failed to kick the tires on McDougald. He's a guy who I felt could come in and really solidify a lot of different areas in that safety core should they not have been bringing anybody back or anything else. And I still feel that his youth and his experience at that position would have been something that the Colts really needed in the secondary. I don't have a problem with them bringing back Butler, but I'm a little skeptical as to why they didn't bring in McDougald. He's proven that he can do it all, basically. He's good in run support, like I said, and you need that kind of physicality back there, especially if you're going to be playing some more of the single high role,

which I think that we should expect the Colts to play this year. And having a legit backup back there who can be physical and good in coverage in case somebody gets hurt is the issue. And right now, T.J. Green can be solid in run support. He is not solid, even solid, in coverage. I mean, he is bad in coverage. So this is something that I think that the Colts are, you know, maybe they have the idea that they're going to go after a safety in the draft. In fact, if they don't, then I'm going to question this move even more. But as for the time being, I think that this may lead to the Colts targeting some of these top safeties in the first few rounds of the draft. I think that's kind of the only logical result in all of this. So this is going to be interesting to see what goes on moving forward. There's a few positions, cornerback, edge rusher. I think that the Colts need another Sam, a strong linebacker outside.

And there's a couple guys that I think they could go for with that. So there's a few positions in the first few rounds that are needs for the Colts, and with this decision, taking Butler over McDougald or at least not even offering McDougald a contract, this tells me that the Colts are going to try and go safety in the first few rounds. It is a deep class, so logically mean logically they could probably get a good backup in the fourth, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts go in that range somewhere in the third, second, or third round at safety depending on who's on the board. Or they may

try to drop a little bit further depending on what the Colts do with their picks and if they try to trade back a little bit because they are going to attempt to trade back. There is just no two ways about it, in my opinion, that they wouldn't. It doesn't make sense not to. There's a ton of talent on this board, and there's a lot of teams that are going to have specific rankings to their boards. They're going to want to move up to get one guy at a position over another because not only are these teams ranking their players at each position or just the players overall, but they have specific guidelines as to who they want to go after in

this area. And if it means that they can get a guy that they've got 20 players higher ranked than a guy that they're going to end up getting if they stay put. They're going to come up and want to move up even if it's only a few spots. The Colts may not get a ton of draft capital out of it, but they will get some more picks. And more picks in this draft is going to be, as far as I'm concerned, pretty valuable moving forward for the depth of this roster. So we're going to get Kevin Hickey. He is the new writer at USA Today. Coltswire, going to introduce him to some of you guys here, Colts Nation. Give him a follow on Twitter. He's a guy that I've known for a little bit. He wrote for me at QB Mecca,

and he's gotten the job at Coltswire. So I'm proud of him and excited for him, and we'll meet him to kind of see what he looks at uh so far with uh chris ballard and some of this colts roster and what he sees moving forward so and stay tuned for that kevin hickey's next okay kevin for the grand prize of one million dollars what color is the white house um i know this i know this i know this, I know this, I know this. Um, five seconds. Oh, switching to GEICO could save you a bunch of money on car insurance? Okay. Judges?

That's true, Kevin. Bill O'Loughlin, congratulations. You're a winner. Woo! GEICO, because saving 15% or more on car insurance is always a great answer. And we're now on the line with Kevin Hickey, newest writer to Colts Nation, and taking up the USA Today sports media platform on Colts Wire.

Kevin, how you doing, my man? I'm doing good, Matt. How you doing? Great. Great to have you on. Great to introduce you to some more Colts fans that you're just getting to know and kind of working your way through the process here. But I wanted to get you on and kind of see what kind of a viewpoint you have on the organization as a whole as you're kind of digging into it as well, especially with the new general manager, Chris Ballard, and just kind of see what your thoughts are on that. So first and foremost, I'll start with contracts and whatnot that he's signed since bringing everybody on. What are your

thoughts on that? Because a lot of Colts Nation is very, very impressed with the fact that a lot of the guaranteed money in these is in the front year of the contract, whereas a lot of the guarantees in the back end are very minimal, if at any. And this is kind of how you work this contract situation, in other words, to keep a lot of your options open for the future. What are your thoughts on that just off the top of your head? No, definitely. I think you hit it right on the head. A lot of the guaranteed money is in the first couple years. So that's definitely going to help them with decisions later down the line,

you know, if they have to restructure or even cut somebody. But something else that I think you can point out is these contracts, they're young guys. Nobody that they've signed that were not a part of the team earlier in the season, none of them are above the age of 29. So I think that's huge. And, you know, they're trying to revamp the defense. The defense was, you know, lack of a better word,

it wasn't good last year. So they're trying to rebuild it, and they're doing so with a young core of guys, especially in the middle with the linebacker group. So none of them are above the age of 29, but also the contracts are not, they're no more than three years. I think Jabal Sheard has a three-year contract. I know Jack Doyle has a three-year contract. So I think this gives them a lot of, it can give them a lot of immediate

returns, but it can also, you know, down the line, it's not going to impact them as much. Right. Absolutely gives him a lot of leeway to either make a decision on them after that first year. Cause a lot of like the guys like Marcus Hunt and you know, a couple of like the offensive line with Schwenke, the guy that they just brought in for that, as well as like a guy, like even someone who is at least for the moment projected to be special teams helping possibly a rotational guy in Barquevious Mingo, it gives them a lot of leeway with those guys. I mean, that basically you are, I mean, most of these guys are on prove it deals to be quite honest with you. And for a team that's completely restructuring their, their defense and trying to bring in possible playmakers through the draft and just trying to sign guys that they can really shore up a lot of holes on their defense with free agent signings. This is the way to go. Needless to say, Chris Ballard is a very popular guy in Indianapolis right now.

Definitely. I think you hit it on the head with the prove-it deals. What Chris Ballard is doing, and I know he's preached it as he got brought in, but they're trying to flip the whole defense and the whole team, but it's going to take time. So now what they're trying to do is, in my opinion, is they're starting to build a foundation with some younger guys, but they're also bringing in guys on one-year contracts

with very low guaranteed money or no guaranteed money at all, and they're competing. They're trying to create competition at spots to try to raise the level of play, and then they can kind of weed their way through as they move on with that. But I think you nailed it on the head with the prove-it deals. I mean, these guys are not on a lot of money, but they can still, if they play well enough, they can earn themselves a multi-year contract.

Who would be your favorite contractor or your favorite signing this offseason in free agency? I really like John Simon. I think that was a great signing. He's good against both the run and he's going to help out in pass rush. But one of my really favorites was one of the most recent ones in Kamar Aiken. I think that's a huge signing. We saw what he can do in 2015 when he kind of, he almost got forced into a big role in that offense.

And you can see when he got the amount of snaps that he got, he can produce. I mean, he had 75 catches for 944 yards and like five touchdowns. And I think, I don't think they brought him in necessarily you know to specifically replace somebody like you know philip dorp set they drafted him in the first round hasn't really produced first round numbers and it's still early but i think bringing in aiken somebody who's another red zone threat you know you lose dwayne allen you got to kind of replace him in the red zone kamari can stick to 230 230. He also runs a 4-5, 4-4, 4-4-5, I think. So he's going to be in there, you know, pushing

Dorsett for that number three role. And I think it's definitely going to help out the offense. And one of the things that you touched on there was that you were talking about that Aitken was pushed into ultimately a larger role than what he was ultimately brought under the Ravens team to do, at least at that time. And he definitely lived up to the billing. One of the other things, it was similar with Chester Rogers last year with Dorsett really not improving much throughout the season, really not impressing. And then Chester Rogers kind of did the same thing there. So we've got an interesting dynamic here with two guys who have proven that under pressure, they can come in and be a benefit to this receiver core. This really puts, I mean, Dorsett and Aiken are nothing alike as far as receivers, the

type of receiver that they are. However, this is really putting the pressure on Dorsett to really show out this year. He, I mean, if he doesn't A, healthy or be, uh, really impressed, he's going to be shown the door and simple guys like Kamar Aiken and, uh, Chester Rogers are going to be the guys that are climbing the depth chart as a result. And so I think this gives definitely a more well-rounded approach to the receiver core. Although the Colts, uh, you know, if you look at it theoretically, they don't need another receiver because of just numbers. But when you look at what he can do to benefit that receiver core, I think it's

a fantastic signing, kind of like you said. I think that's a great addition to the team. And I'll have to double down on what you said about Simon. He was one of the guys that I was really pining for since the beginning. And I love that guy. I love how much he brings. I think he's my favorite signing because of how versatile he brings. I think he's my favorite signing because of how versatile he is. He's definitely good against the run, definitely can pressure the backfield. And you saw in his limited snaps in Houston how impressive he can be just when given the opportunity. Another guy, that Jabal Sheard signing was phenomenal as far as I'm concerned. He's another guy that can really help and shore

up the run game or against the run. And he also brings a weird dynamic too. We didn't see this much in New England, but when he was in Cleveland in his first couple of years, he was down in a four point stance and just was like shot out of a cannon. When you would send him on the edge, they used him a little more as a defensive end and a 4-3, but that is something that I really hope that they will use him as well. Not only standing up in the 3-4 outside linebacker, but also putting him on the line and adding a little bit of strength and speed at that defensive end role occasionally just to throw off other teams. So I'm really interested in that. What is maybe the most surprising thing that you've seen so far this year in free agency? Surprising. I think the fact that they weren't

able to sign Dontari Poe, I really thought they were going to have a big shot at signing him. Although I did see something on Twitter. Um, I don't know if, if you tweeted it or if you retweeted it, uh, but whoever the user was said, you know, Dontari Post coming in for a visit, if they don't get a deal done, obviously something happened, you know, like trust Chris Ballard. Like he knows what he's doing. But I do think that the Colts,

one of the things they need to do, in my honest opinion, is they do need to add to the inside of that defensive line. I think they have to try to get another nose tackle or a three-technique defensive tackle to be in there. I think once they get that, the defense is really going to take a step forward. Yeah, I think that's probably going to be one of their major additions or at least their major target areas throughout the draft. I mean, it appears to be. I mean, it didn't appear that they really went after Hankins or a

lot, but a lot of this stuff that's going on in the offseason so far has been really kind of under the sheets, been pretty quiet. A lot of it we're not hearing about. There was, you know, a lot of Colts fans were wondering why we weren't looking at Zach Brown, and then a couple days later it comes out that the Colts have actually had conversations with him. And, I mean, a lot of this stuff has been very low-key. It's interesting. I like that, but I don't like it also. I mean, obviously as fans or somebody who's looking at the game,

you want to know what's going on and you want to be able to kind of dissect what you can. But this is a totally different guy at GM than we've seen in the past, a totally different approach to off-season free agency. And we can only assume that the approach to the draft is going to be just as different. And I think that the Colts' defense already is as good as it was last year or better. But I have to ask you a question about the reason. Now, this is something that I just in the opening of the show, uh, before you came on that I was kind of talking to the listeners about now, I wasn't so surprised that Darius Butler was brought back. Uh, the thing

that surprised me is that they didn't target or even go after a guy, uh, like Bradley McDougald, who was like, has played really well at safety position the past two years in Tampa, and he was extremely cheap. He went to the Seahawks on a one-year, $2 million deal. What would be your thought process behind the Colts not even throwing any or kicking any tires on that? Well, you say they may have kicked the tires uh i i mean i would assume you know i think ballard's pretty far out there i think he would have at least looked at it um but you look at a guy like mcdougall who's 26 years old i think they really like tj green even though he struggled a lot um you know in his rookie year he's a-round pick. I think they really like him, and they want to use Butler kind of as a bridge

until Green is ready to go. So what they can do with Butler now, because, you know, they're moving him to safety, even, you know, maybe on third down or when they go nickel packages or dime, they can have a three-safety package. So maybe when they feel that Green has started to take some steps forward in coverage, but I really think they wanted kind of a veteran that's been there who has played both cornerback and safety, I think they wanted him to be there with Green because they really like Green.

They've invested a lot in him. And that really surprises me too because i think if the majority of the people you talk to don't like him uh i think he offers a lot granted in in run support but when you look at just pure ability to cover he's got a long way to go and i mean he's not just around the corner he's got a long way to go he's got to take a huge jump a huge leap and a lot of people have have likened the possibility of that leap to Landon Collins from his rookie year. But man, I'll tell you what, I don't see, I just don't see that being the case. Now I'm hopeful, of course, regardless of who you've got as a bridge or who you've got

in place to begin with, you always want the guys that whether they look good or not in their rookie year to impress and improve. But I just, it's just for me, looking at his, what he didn't do throughout the season. There were so many guys on the roster that you could see natural progression that they've actually been coached up. Green was a guy that I didn't see that in throughout the season. Even guys like Rashawn Melvin, Daryl Morris, guys who were just thrown into the mix at the corner position that really had very limited experience in the league, they looked significantly better every game. And though they weren't top-end talent or anything like that, you could see it.

And I was real surprised that TJ Green, especially at the safety position, was one who didn't show that, at least in my eyes. I didn't notice it, and I don't know that there's too many people who have. So as far as I'm concerned with them wanting to bet their money on Green improving that much, I think that's kind of a fool's bet at this point. But, hey, being proven wrong is part of the beauty of being a fan, too. I would have no problem with that whatsoever. So tell me a little bit about, uh, your, your initial break into, uh, Colts, uh, nation here being, uh, somebody who covers the team and what you're

enjoying the most out of it. Uh, yeah, it's exciting. You know, um, this is kind of my first, you know, big gig on my own, uh, with the Colts wire. Uh, I I've, I've really enjoyed, um, ever since I kind of announced it on Twitter or whatever, and the pages have gone up. There was, there've been a lot of Colts fans that have, you know, reached out and said, you know, welcome to Colts nation. You know, we're happy to have a new face covering the team. And I think that's kind of cool. You know, you don't, I don't think you get that with a lot of teams and it's, it's definitely fun to see, you know, the team's so active and free agency. It makes my job a lot easier.

But I think that was kind of cool. You know, a lot of readers and fans reached out. And, you know, I've joined a couple groups on Facebook just to kind of get a gauge of how the fans feel about the management and the team. And they've all just kind of, you know, they're like welcome. And I think that's really cool. I think that's something unique. Yeah, that's really cool. Do you think that that may help you as far as in your overall analysis of the team, uh, not having such a bias or anything with just being a fan,

but somebody who's actually covering the team for what they're seeing? Yeah, I do. I, I, yeah, I think it's going to help me a lot. Uh, it helped me get a little more in depth, uh, maybe be a little more objective. Because you know me, I grew up a Giants fan. My dad was a big Giants fan. So they gave me the opportunity to write about the Colts. And they're a very interesting organization. They have a lot of history.

So I think it's a fun ride to begin with the Colts. Absolutely. Well, we're happy to have you, man. And it's always nice to have another voice in there to bounce things off of. So if you guys are out there, make sure you're following Kevin Hickey on Twitter at KevinHickey11. Welcome to the team, more or less there, Kevin. Glad to have you. Everybody out there, please continue to go and rate and review the show. Getting great numbers all because of you guys. Like I said, make sure you guys are following Kevin.

Go check out his work at Colts Wire. And is there anything else that you wanted to plug right now, Kevin? No, nothing to plug. Just, you know, we've had a bit of a history. You know, you helped me out. You gave me a little contributing gig when I had zero experience. So, first of all, I just want to say thank you to you for kind of giving me some time and some work. And I'm just excited, and I'm happy to be here.

First of all, my pleasure. Second of all, you definitely deserve it. And you're going to be doing great things on your own. So I'm happy to see it for you. And Colts Nation, make sure you guys are going out there, getting with Kevin. Make sure you guys are conversing with him online on Twitter

and the Facebook groups and so on and so forth. Great guy, great knowledge of the game itself, and he's somebody who's going to be giving you unbiased opinions on your team, whether you like him or not. So you're going to have to deal with it. So thanks again, Kevin, and thank you all for stopping by today. And I will talk to you all tomorrow right here on Locked on Colts. You are Locked on Colts, your daily podcast on the Indianapolis Colts,

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