Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Peter King Talks Indianapolis Colts' QB Situation, Offseason Moves

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

The guys are joined by legendary NFL journalist Peter King, who discusses the interesting position the Indianapolis Colts are now in with Sam Ehlinger as well as his thoughts on the Colts' offseason m...oves. The guys also discuss what they want to see in this final week of training camp and the preseason.Find and follow Locked On Colts on your favorite podcast platforms:📺YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLdpxJspi1hMh5HL7ExpWOQ🎧 Apple https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1151621306🎧 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6meP450baAtjX4rTENZ5ij🎧 Audacy https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/locked-on-colts-daily-podcast-on-the-indianapolis-colts-21701🎧 Google https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vUFBZODk1ODUyODkyNQ🎧 Megaphone https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/lockedoncoltsFollow Jake and Zach's written work on HorseshoeHuddle.com, and give them a follow on Twitter @JakeArthurNFL, @ZachHicks2, and @LockedOnColts!Today's Episode is brought to you by BetOnline. BetOnline has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DaveDownload the Dave app from the App store right now for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to dave.com/legal. Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC.LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFLBuilt BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Athletic GreensTo make it easy, Athletic Greens is going to give you a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. All you have to do is visit athleticgreens.com/NFLNETWORK.BriteCoThe guys at BriteCo Jewelry Insurance made buying insurance for your engagement ring, your watch, or whatever so easy you can get covered in 2 minutes on your cell phone. You won't find a better deal on coverage that's so affordable. Go to https://brite.co/lockedon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Colts have an interesting issue to sort out at the most important position in all of sports. We'll tell you what we think, but we'll also tell you about it with one of the biggest names in NFL media. All that and much more on today's episode of Locked on Colts. Let's get to it. You are Locked on Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network. Your team every day. All right, Colts fans. Thanks so much for tuning in and making us your number one listen of the day. This is your daily podcast covering your Indianapolis Colts,
Starting point is 00:00:52 part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you by BetOnline. BetOnline has you covered this season with more props, odds, and lines than ever before. BetOnline, you covered this season with more props, odds, and lines than ever before. BetOnline, where the game starts. I, of course, am Jake Arthur, and I'm joined by my partner here, Zach Hicks. On today's show, we've got a good one. We're going to be joined by special guest Peter King of NBC Sports and the Football Morning in America column.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yes, that Peter King. We talked about the offseason that the Colts have had, national expectations for this team, and an interesting problem that the Colts now have at quarterback. Zach and I are also going to dive into the final week of Colts training camp and what we would like to see accomplished. Let's obviously start out with our chat with Peter King. I spoke with him during the Colts game against Detroit over the weekend at Lucas Oil Stadium. He needs no introduction, obviously. Everyone knows who Peter King is. He's been at the top of the food
Starting point is 00:01:50 chain among NFL journalists for decades now, and he paved the way for guys like Zach and me to be writing and clicking away at Sports Illustrated. So we won't make you guys wait anymore. Here's our chat. Peter King joining me here. We've got kind of a back and forth game today. Is there anything you've seen from any of these Colts bubble guys so far that's really stood out to you? You know, I don't know if Sam Ellinger is going to be active or if they'll try to squeeze him onto the practice squad, but I thought he had a really impressive drive after kind of a numbskull first play of the game where he took a two-yard loss instead of just dumping the ball for a zero,
Starting point is 00:02:33 for no gain. But he obviously is an intriguing player, and you would want, definitely, you'd want to be able to work with him and handle him uh and and you got to figure out how to handle it will you be able to i'm assuming that they want to keep him and will you be able to keep him uh on the practice squad and sneak him through that or would somebody pick him up? My gut feeling, it's only a gut feeling, is that they'll probably keep him on the 53
Starting point is 00:03:10 because I kind of think he'd get picked up by somebody, you know, instead of just having him on the practice squad. But I have not watched closely enough to make any judgments on any of their other guys. Yeah, that's kind of a hot topic right now is what you can do with him. Can you sneak him through waivers? Can you trade him? What have you. But to some of the guys that we know are going to be out there on Sundays, the nucleus of the Colts has been the same for the last few years, but some pretty drastic new moves, coordinator, quarterback, things like that. What's your assessment of how the Colts have either upgraded or I guess regressed this offseason? Well, I mean, if you look at the
Starting point is 00:03:56 offensive side, obviously, you know, I believe that Ryan's an upgrade over Wentz. I think he has been everything the Colts could have wanted early on. And I think that will turn out to be a positive for them. I would expect that he'll be the first non-one-and-done quarterback in the Frank Reich era. Everybody else has been one and done. I think the other interesting addition really has been Alec Pierce. And again, you know, most of these training camps I just parachute into and see him for a day, maybe two. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But, you know, Colt's Twitter seems to love Alec Pierce. Everybody is, you know, they're posting the highlights of him and Twitter and Instagram seem to kind of love the guy. And there's no question there's a place for him here. So I would assume he's going to play a major role early. You know, on defense, probably, I guess the biggest question will be what will Shaquille Leonard, aka Darius Leonard, you know, will he be able to play opening day? What sort of shape will he be able to play opening day? What sort of shape will he be in if he does play? Will they have to make some accommodations to this very bulky,
Starting point is 00:05:38 frustrating calf injury that he's had? So I don't know. Those probably are the biggest things that I'm curious about with this team right now. It was already a pretty good defense continue on that side of the ball. But now you've got Gus Bradley replacing Matt Eberflus. You added a couple star guys like Stephon Gilmore and Yannick Ngakwe. How do you think those additions kind of transform this defense? And do they take another step forward? I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yannick Ngakwe has been a good pass rusher in his, in his NFL career. It's odd that he's on a new team every 10 or 15 minutes. You know, it's odd that he's on a new team every 10 or 15 minutes. Yeah. You know, it's just, I'm a little bit wait and see on Ngakwe because, you know, three teams in the last, whatever it is, year and a half, have basically let him go or decided to move them, whatever. So, you know, we'll see. Look,
Starting point is 00:06:45 Stephon Gilmore, if he stays healthy, will be a superb addition for this defense. But that's the big question, you know, to me, is he going to stay healthy? And as far as Gus Bradley goes, Gus Bradley is that, is like that teacher you had in middle school who every kid in the school wanted to make sure they got into his class. Really? He's just an effervescent, energetic, ultra-positive guy who I think is going to really have a positive impact on this defense. Last one for you. It seems like it's Colts and Titans at the end of the year every year for the AFC South. Is this the year that the Colts actually get it right?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Or, you know, do they finish strong? Or how do you see this finishing for the Colts? I think if Indianapolis plays efficiently on offense, don't turn it over a lot, then I like Indianapolis to win this division. But every year, you know, first of all, they've got to figure this, they've got to figure out this Jacksonville thing. It's gone from annoying to a problem. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's a big problem, and it's got to be fixed. It's got to be solved. And when they play Tennessee, a history of weird crap has happened when they play Tennessee. They've got to stop that, too. is going to sort of take this team by this by the scruff of the neck and say, OK, forget what's happened in the past. We're going to solve this stuff right now. Now, the one thing about playing Tennessee is that that is a young, very aggressive defense with a lot of talent.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So those games have a chance to be 17 to 13 and all that. I don't think you're going to see score fests when they play Tennessee. But look, they've got to at least split with Tennessee and they've got to sweep the other two teams in the division. That's what has to happen, I think, for them to win the division. Now, one other thing I would say, I think we are all thinking that Houston's going to be 4-13. I'm not sure that that's true. Lovie Smith is a coach who gets teams competitive. Maybe doesn't get them to be great, but he gets them to be competitive. And I would fear, fear is probably the wrong word i would think that that is they've got a chance in that opening
Starting point is 00:10:10 game to to really stun the colts so i think everybody looks at the schedule and say now boy colts ought to get off to a great start and i think they probably should win the game but i don't think that one's a gimme. That's all I got for, I really appreciate your free time. Okay. No problem. Good luck. And thank you to Peter for sitting down with Jake here and talking about the Colts and the Colts quarterback situation. It's just great to have him here on the show.
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Starting point is 00:12:14 that's yeah, that's absolutely true. Yeah. Because before we get into this whole conversation, Nick Foles is the Colts quarterback too. Like he's going to be the Colts quarterback too this season. Outside of injury, that is not going to change. Outside of injury or just terrible play,
Starting point is 00:12:31 like which hopefully we never get to see either quarterbacks during regular season. It's just Matt Ryan the whole time. But Nick Foles is quarterback too. That's not changing. But there is a lot of rumbling from a lot of fans that, oh, Sam Ellinger should be quarterback two. They should cut Nick Foles. They should trade Nick Foles. Jake, do you think that Sam Ellinger has done enough in the preseason to be that quarterback
Starting point is 00:12:55 two? Not for this team. I understand if another team that needs a quarterback or they're lacking depth behind their starter wants him. I get it. He's looked great this offseason or this preseason. He looked good last. You know, he's progressing. He's becoming a decent young backup quarterback. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. But the Colts, when they signed Nick Foles, it sent a clear message that we have intentions of winning.
Starting point is 00:13:25 We want to go to the Super Bowl this year because of something, God forbid, happens to Matt Ryan. Frank Reich has worked with Nick Foles, and they have confidence that Foles can help them tread water while Jonathan Taylor leads the offense and they get to the Super Bowl, whatever. They trusted Sam Ellinger last year as the backup, but it's just not the same. Like expectations are different now. They can't put their eggs in that basket if something does happen to Matt Ryan. Now the issue becomes what do you do with them? If another team comes calling and wants to trade and the values there, sweet, go ahead and do it.
Starting point is 00:14:03 But otherwise, do you carry three quarterbacks? Because I think they like him a lot and don't want to risk putting him on the waiver wire to try to sneak him on the practice squad. I don't see that happening. So yeah, it's a big issue. I know you know Foles is the QB2, but what do you think of all this? You know, I think the real conversation we should be having is if the Colts should roster Sam Ellinger as QB3. Because I really don't think it's a conversation about quarterback, too. Because, you know, I see this on a lot of comments in our videos, too, where people are like, Sam Ellinger is definitely the better quarterback. What has Nick Foles shown compared to Sam Ellinger? And I'm like, guys, I know that the NFL is what have you done for me lately.
Starting point is 00:14:44 But Nick Foles, albeit not amazing, I am not going to bat for Nick Foles here. I've never been a huge Nick Foles fan. Nick Foles had a season where he had 27 touchdowns, what, two picks or whatever. He had a seven-touchdown game, which is tied for the NFL record. He's had success with Frank Reich in the past. I mean, he basically won a Super Bowl for them. He had a great two-game stretch in the NFC He, I mean, he basically won a Super Bowl for them. He had a great two game stretch in the NFC Championship game
Starting point is 00:15:07 and in the Super Bowl to, you know, win a Super Bowl. And you're comparing that to a guy who's had four out of five preseason games he's played in. He's looked fine. Like he looked good. Like it's no comparison.
Starting point is 00:15:21 This is, and it's easy for us to say at home, like, oh, Sam Ellinger's doing great in the preseason. It's awesome.. It's easy for us to say at home, like, oh, Sam Allender's doing great in the preseason. It's awesome. But when you have coaches and you have GMs and stuff that have their job on the line, you're going to still be more reliant on that guy who's had proven success in the NFL regular season. And I know a good counterargument to that could be like, oh, Sam Allender's never had a shot. But, you know, it's not our problem here. You know, it's not the problem here they have
Starting point is 00:15:46 two guys they have one who's been mvp obviously he's your starter and you have another guy who's proven that he can at least be a steady backup like i it's just it doesn't make sense for the team to move on from foals for sam ellinger and it's not even like foals look terrible here in the preseason you know he he threw that one pick again, I still don't know if that was a miscommunication or just a bad throw. It could have just been a bad throw. And then the other one, it was a fumble and then two scoring drives in four drives. Sam Ellinger's had a lot more drives and had a lot more success in those drives, but it's not like Nick Foles has come out there and been like a train wreck. So I just, I don't know. I think it's a weird conversation to have nick foals has proven he's at least capable of being a very solid backup uh and sam ellinger i think
Starting point is 00:16:29 right now is trying to prove that he can be a solid backup so like you already have one guy who's proven that versus the guy who's trying to prove that every time in the preseason and again sam ellinger's been great in the preseason i no issues with what he's doing the ball is coming out his hand a lot faster he looks mobile mobile. He looks confident in the pocket. And honestly, for me, I'm a person who would never roster three quarterbacks. I would understand the Colts doing it and wouldn't object to it because I get it. I get it. He's showing some things.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I just don't think it's a conversation for him at QB2. It doesn't make any sense for me. And again, this comes from someone who doesn't like Nick Foles that much. It's just Nick Foles has proven that he can be a solid backup. I don't know why you go away from that from a guy who hasn't proven that he can be a solid backup. He's just had some good preseason games. I mean, it's like look at the Dolphins right now. If you were looking at the Dolphins, right, are they having the same conversation with Skylar Thompson should be the backup over Teddy Bridgewater?
Starting point is 00:17:24 You know, Skylar Thompson's had the same similar stats to Seth Ellinger in the preseason, but if we're watching that as non-biased fans, we're like, ah, it's just a guy who targeted the preseason. But when you watch it from him, it's like, oh, that's my team, and you see a guy having the great stats. Like, oh my gosh, this is our starting quarterback. So it's just the way the preseason goes. But all this did not take away anything from Sam Allinger, though.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I mean, he's looking great. And, again, I think if it comes down to it and they have an extra roster spot, I'm all for keeping him as QB3. Yeah, I mean, to his credit, he can only perform against the defenses he's being placed with. And he's shredding them for the most part. Right, right. And while it's fun to debate,
Starting point is 00:18:04 I can almost feel certain speaking on behalf of the colts and that this is not a competition it's not it's kind of said that today too like yeah he he was the question he was he got a question which was kind of framed as the same ellinger question and he took the opportunity to talk about nick foals so that kind of tells you everything you need to hear um all right, Zach, before we move on, it's time to get serious once again. Talk about something that, you know, it's hard to talk about sometimes, but a lot of us need to hear it. Imagine it. You're hanging out with some friends and you're putting a few drinks back. A few becomes a few too many. Been there before,
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Starting point is 00:21:33 We have three practices left Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, and then they finish up the preseason as well on Saturday. So you and I have I have discussed this for the past couple of weeks. Some things you see in the preseason, it looks bad, but it's really nothing to be concerned about because it's not the actual gameplay. Like this is the time to try things out and make mistakes,
Starting point is 00:21:55 but there have been some things maybe to take note of. Has there been anything that you've seen that's concerning legitimately that needs to be fixed moving forward going into the season? Yeah, so I'll actually go a couple of things here where I'll say these things concern me a lot or a decent amount. And these things don't really concern me, even though they concern everybody else. So I'll make it two categories. So the first one that I'll say does kind of concern me a good bit is that defensive tackle depth. I think that's really concerning.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I just, I like Eric Johnson. I like Curtis Brooks. I love their long-term potential. I just, I don't know how good they're going to be in year one. And it's tough because, again, you don't want these defensive tackles racking up 70, 80, 90% of the snaps. You want to be able to spell them. You want to be able to get them. You want to be able
Starting point is 00:22:45 to get them out of the game and not play that much. So having good rotational defensive tackles really helps. And I just don't know if the Colts have anyone on their roster capable of that in 2022. That I'm pretty concerned about. Quarterback, cornerback five and six. I know that's a weird thing to be nervous about, but I don't think the Colts have a fifth corner. That's capable of playing on Sundays on this team. And right now we saw, you know, Brandon face on went down with an injury in the first preseason game.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Isaiah Rogers is out with concussion right now. Stefan Gilmore's had injury concerns in the past. Kenny Moore's had some injury concerns. The Colts are going to need someone at cornerback five. And I, I don't I just I'm terrified of it being another situation where Bo Peakey goes out there for one play and allows a double move for a touchdown you know I'm terrified of another situation like that so I I'm legitimately concerned about those two things on defense but flipping it a little bit to my other
Starting point is 00:23:40 two categories that I'm not as concerned about right now I'm surprisingly not as concerned about wide receiver and I know I know that's something we've talked I mean we've made so many shows about it but indeed a veteran wide receiver they need these guys to step up but seeing Alec Pearson his growth through the offseason so far uh seeing you know Paris Campbell make some plays and then seeing you know know, Strawn coming back and looking and just making it look easy when he was out there. Again, I'm not saying Mike Strawn is going to be leading this team in catches, but he kind of quelled a lot of my concerns about wider super five
Starting point is 00:24:15 just from those couple snaps he played this past game. But a lot of it really has to do with Alec Pierce for me. I think Alec Pierce has the makings to be a really, really solid contributor in year one. And just seeing him and seeing Strawn, seeing some of Paris Campbell, I don't know. I'm not terribly concerned about wide receiver right now. I know that'll probably come back to bite me. And then the last one I wanted to throw here was just offensive line depth.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I talked about a little bit on the last show, so I won't go too in detail here. But I'm not really that concerned about O-line depth. I know a lot of people are saying, oh, the backup O-line looks terrible. But when you have Will Fries, Bernard Ryman, Dennis Kelly, I think that's a solid trio to have there backing up your O-line. So I'm really not too concerned about that. Yeah, as far as the offensive line goes, I can't say I have zero concern.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like working in two new starters and with how leaky they were against like uh detroit for example in the first practice at least i it's something i want to see with my eyes on a on a field first that i'm more concerned about i'm more concerned about the starting five than the depth of no line not saying that the starting five is worse than the depth, but I'm more concerned about Pinter and Pryor than I am about having capable backups that can step in, if that makes sense. Yeah, I think long-term they'll be fine, but I think maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:36 you know very well new offensive lines, they take time to gel. Yes, they've been together all spring and summer, but they haven't been playing games yet. So there might be some growing pains. As for the receivers, I agree with you. Cause I've just, I've kind of tried to change my mindset and just look at the pass catching group as a whole. When you, when you give me Michael Pittman, Jr. Alec Pierce, Paris Campbell, Ashton doolin being that next guy that's going to fill in mo alley cox kylan grants and naheem hines um jonathan taylor it's fine a quarterback like matt ryan will find a way for that to work like they have got like it's that's when you look at
Starting point is 00:26:19 the whole thing it's a diverse group you have guys that can move the chains you have guys that can create yards after the catch you have guys that can take the top off of the defense so i think it's fine honestly adding a veteran at this point seems disruptive like even ty hilton seems a little disruptive to me i don't know um but yeah defensive tackle i i also am concerned like if you think about the last two years taylor stalworth was the primary third defensive tackle he played really well and i just don't see anyone who's ready to handle that workload right now and and perform at a high level which makes me feel like these defensive ends that can play inside and out are probably going to see a lot of snaps
Starting point is 00:27:04 taekwon dio guys like that are probably going to see a lot of snaps. Taekwon, Dio guys like that are probably going to be getting a lot of work, which isn't a bad thing. Like they're good players. You want to see him play, but it would be good to have that reassurance that there's someone behind Buckner and Stewart that is ready to go right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. I think I have faith in Eric Johnson being there at some point this year as a back-up one tackle run stuffer. I just don't know if he's there yet. And this past game did not quell my worries about that at all. The whole defensive line looked terrible in run defense, but especially the defensive tackles. Yeah, and then this last thing I was kind of wanting to ask you about. So again, three practices, one preseason game left before it's, you know, final decision time on this roster. Who is, which players are like right there on the cusp?
Starting point is 00:27:53 They're like right there on the bubble that you think a good week nudges them in, or this is like a really critical week for them? Weirdly, I think Ben Banigou's kind of falling into that territory uh with a fetty adenogbo playing really well this past week and then him like i'm not saying ben bandicoot was terrible by any means in this past game but it just wasn't great like it was it was kind of just fine against a backup against backup offensive tackles which you didn't want to see uh so i think he needs to have a big week and a bit of you know even if he's only out there for a couple snaps in this final game against the Bucs, you know, I want to see him be a little disruptive.
Starting point is 00:28:28 A couple other guys in the bubble I think that just need to kind of continue what they're doing, though. Sterling Weatherford is one. I think he's right there. Like, he's got to be close to making this team. I mean, he had a great game this week. I thought he was awesome this week. If he can just do a little more on special teams,
Starting point is 00:28:44 do a little more on the snaps he gets, I think he can get a Fetty Odenikbo. I just mentioned him. I think he can just put an exclamation point on it this week as well. It's another guy. And on offense, you know, Des Patman, I think, is another guy who can just put an exclamation point on it.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I think he's right there. He's super close to solidifying it. Something that I really noted in my kind of quick rewatch of some things is I think he's actually run he's super close to solidifying it um something that i really noted in my uh kind of quick rewatch of some things is uh i think he's actually run the most gunner snaps of any player this this in the preseason really yeah him i think tony brown would have but tony brown they're only really doing one a game with him but i think he's going to be the gunner uh but it looks like i think their top three gunners this year are going to be Tony Brown, Isaiah Rogers, and Des Patman.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Those are going to be their three gunners is what it seems like. Yeah, that makes sense. I've seen them get a lot of work throughout practice. So for me, I think one of these defensive tackles, the Colts are just begging for someone to have a dominant week. That, of course, would be great. I think you nailed it with a Denig bow and banagoo um and then i think the linebacker situation the depth guys needs to be figured out because doman forest ryan and weatherford all have a case to make it right
Starting point is 00:30:01 and i really hope for jojo doman's sake that he gets back to practicing this week because he missed the last week with an injury. So I hope all three of them participate throughout the week in practice and maybe two of them make it. I don't know. Special teams is huge. So it's a big week for those three. Yeah. The last thing I'll throw in there is the fourth safety battle. It's kind of really interesting because armani watts is the guy that we assume is going to get it but ronnie thomas had just been a draft pick on and he actually looked pretty good on defense in this past game he just looked big lots of tackles yeah he looked big and fluid and fast i don't know how ready he is but he just moves so well uh but then i don't trevor denbow man i don't like i know
Starting point is 00:30:44 we're gonna end every podcast now talking trevor denbo man i don't like i know we're gonna end every podcast now talking trevor denbo but like i i charted the special teams tackles from this past game and on the seven return opportunities for the lions he had four tackles like he's just he is this and the two of the three tackles he didn't make were on two of them were on the big return kick returns that went for almost touchdowns so So, like, if he's not making the tackle, like, this preseason, they're almost returning this stuff for scores. So, I don't know, man. Trevor Denbo, again, I don't know if I would keep him.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I don't really know. But he looks like a special team stud this preseason. I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know if I'd keep him, but he just looks really good on special teams. Yeah, for the Colts fans who remember the 2000s and 2010s, I get major Matt Giordano vibes from Trevor Denbo.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Just the special teams demon. Yeah, I don't know. You don't want to see him play in defensive snaps, but you can be on my special teams anytime. Yep. And I think now that we're breaking down special teams competition, that probably puts a bow on it for us today. Everyone we'll be back with you tomorrow.
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