Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - RAS creator Kent Lee Platte analyzes the 2021 NFL Draft
Episode Date: March 31, 2021On today's episode, RAS creator Kent Lee Platte joins Evan to go over the 2021 NFL Draft. What historic trends have we seen correlating RAS scores to future NFL success? Any traits at certain position...s stand out in RAS?Evan and Kent then go over Pro Days from certain prospects who make sense with the Indianapolis Colts. Who graded out in an elite manner with RAS that could eventually land in Indy?Closing out the show, Kent provides his best fits to watch out for with No. 21 and No. 54 overall for the Colts.This is a fun episode, Colts fans, with an interesting perspective on the draft. You won't want to miss this one! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello everybody, welcome back to the latest episode of Locked On Colts,
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Today's always your host, Evan Cedery, joined by Kent Lee Platy.
As you guys all know, I'm on Twitter at Math Bomb, the creator of the RAS scoring system,
Relative Athletic Scoring.
He also helps the NFL Analytics Director in application development for PFN.
Kent, how are you doing tonight?
Fantastic, man.
Glad to be on.
No,
hey, really appreciate it. And I hit you up a day or so ago to come on the podcast because I've been seeing Raz for the last couple of years now. It's really starting to take off
over the last couple of years. And let's just start off with that. Just for those Colts fans
that are listening to this or just NFL draft fans in general, what is RAS? RAS is, like you mentioned, Relative Athletic Scores.
It's a composite metric that I created that compares NFL prospects to their position group
from as far back as I could get data until their draft year.
I've gotten data all the way back to 1987, both Combine and Pro Day.
There's over 20,000 players in the database,
so it compares each player to their position alone,
and it gives a 0 to 10 score for each of those individual metrics.
It then compiles an average and then uses that average to create another score, again, on 0 to 10,
because everybody can get 0 to 10.
Everybody can understand what 0 to 10 means.
And it gets that final score, which is just zero to ten.
How athletic is that?
And the idea was to create something that was simple and easy to understand.
And hopefully I've been able to accomplish at least that part.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I've been following Raz for a little bit, Kent.
And just looking at the overall process of it you really go into detail
like you mentioned pro day this year at the combine really focus on the pro day and for
example Kent puts in a system on these up scoring cards overall height weight as well as the bench
vertical broad 40-yard dash the splits on both those a shuttle and the three cone he also has
the length of the guys on the site as well as far as arm length goes you want to dive a little deeper to that just when you compare Kent over the last couple years with Raz and especially since
your inception of it I feel like honestly I mean it's one of the more realistic formulas out there
for me at least really betting on guys to hit in the NFL because we know how important athletic
traits are and explosive guys are in the transition to the NFL. And you see guys who really score low in this not really transition well.
It's very rare over the years seeing a guy really do really poorly in RAS
and being a solid NFL player.
Is it kind of nice to see, like, really the formula of the RAS really taken off
and being, I think, quite honestly, Kent, one of the most realistic things
to look forward to for future NFL success?
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun to develop that. I didn't,
I didn't make it to become any kind of a predictive or projective type of
metric.
I just wanted to make people stop saying things like this guy's unathletic
because he ran a bad 40,
but if he's a running back and using Le'Veon Bell as an example,
he's a running back.
Who's like two 32, 40 pounds. And he runs like a 6'8", three cone.
That's athletic.
I don't care if he ran a 4'6",
bare average for a running back.
I don't care.
He's still an athletic player,
but they would always take this one metric
and say he's unathletic,
or they would overbalance and say he's super athletic
because he ran a good 40,
but maybe he had a horrible vert,
horrible broad, horrible agilities, but he ran a good 40, maybe he had a horrible vert horrible broad horrible
agilities but he ran a good 40 and that's all that really mattered um so the whole idea wasn't
to create something that was predictive once i started finding different ways to compare
um the scores to success metrics pro bowls thousand yard seasons uh players that had 10
sacks in the season things like that i really started to notice that trend
that it is the better athletes that succeed i know it's groundbreaking the great athletes are
the better players um but like you said guys who don't test well generally don't do well in the nfl
um there is some nuance to it it's not it's not ever going to be a be-all end-all you can't you
can't substitute this kind of thing for tape tape but it is important to take into account how athletic guys are and the best thing we have to
do that with right now is the testing that they do in the combine in their pro days so Raz is just a
different way to look at that. When you look at the Annapolis Colts Kent for example they're one of the
teams who really bets on guys with traits,
whether it be like a Michael Pittman Jr., Harris Campbell.
In recent years, also guys on defense like Darius Leonard, who I think would have had
a better Razz if not for pulling his hammy in the 40 a couple years ago in the combine.
And even Quentin Nelson, he really likes athletic offensive linemen.
Quentin Nelson, Braden Smith, even Danny Pinter last year in the fifth round.
What's your opinion of the way the Colts have drafted over the last couple years,
really betting on the traits, betting on the athletes to be in their organization?
Yeah, they make good gambles. The Colts, especially on the offensive line, I had a conversation
today or yesterday, somebody had mentioned saying that the Colts didn't really value
athleticism on the offensive line. I was like, it is literally the opposite of that.
The only team that's drafted more athleticism on the offensive line is the Eagles.
And it's close.
The Colts have been very big on prioritizing athleticism on their offensive line
because offensive linemen tend to do well if they're good athletes.
I posted a long thread a week or two ago about
the types of metrics that project to pro bowlers. And we always joke about the 40-yard dash with
offensive linemen, but offensive line had one of the biggest correlations for the 40-yard dash
and guys that would go on to become pro bowlers. And I think the Colts understand that type of thing.
They understand the nuances to those athletic tests
because it's not about, okay, guy runs fast in straight line.
When you're talking about the offensive line,
you're talking about 320-pound guy can get up to speed very fast
and maintain that speed over a distance.
Yeah, you're not going to do that specific thing
on a football field very much, but that's a hell of a lot of athleticism. I think the Colts do a
very good job of understanding how to find those athletes that have traits that will translate to
actual football actions on the field. And they've just been really good at doing those sorts of
things. Yeah, especially on defense too, Kent.
Chris Bowers really put an emphasis on this from – we're really able to track it now with defensive line.
It looks like they have a threshold of at least 32, 33 inches there.
Linebackers with Darius Leonard and Bobby Okereke,
they're both 98th, 95th percentile in arm length.
And DeForest Buckner, of course, is a monster of himself.
He's one of the more lengthier guys in the interior defensive line in the NFL.
What's your opinion of, arm length? There's those types of traits that could translate. Because if you cover every inch of grass, so to say, it makes
it a little harder on the offense. Yeah. And arm length, it doesn't show up on the cards,
but I do track that individually. You can pull that up on any of the players' pages.
But arm length is one of those things that simultaneously gets overvalued and undervalued by fans because it's it's really
hard to to understand how that value comes into play for every position one of my favorite things
in going in covering razz and athletic testing is whenever guys bench poorly because it's not
a question about whether they're strong or not almost a hundred percent of the time. It's, it's always a question of how long
are their arms? Because the way the bench press works, the longer your arms are, the harder it
is to bench. It doesn't matter how strong you are. That's just, it's just basic physics.
But arm length is really important because we look at things like height, look at things like,
like weight and vertical jumps and 40 times. The NFL is always a game of inches. You're always trying to find
different ways to get to wherever you need to go faster than the other person. On the offensive
and defensive line, arm length helps with that because you're just creating a wider net. Like
you're saying, covering every inch of grass that you can. So if a guy's not big and fast
or explosive, if he's long, there's a lot of things you can do with that. Orlando Brown tested
horribly at the combine a couple years ago, one of the all-time worst performances at a combine
by an offensive tackle. I would consider that a miss for a system like mine because he's a good
player, but he tested terribly. why is that um i wanted to
study that kind of thing but i didn't really have to because orlando brown did all that that
talking for me and basically explained it himself about how he wins on a football field
um you look at another player uh t higgins from the bangles to wide receiver that they drafted
last year in the second round t higgins didn't test all that well.
But he's got a massive wingspan.
And wide receiver, you can work with that.
I mean, he's fast enough.
He's explosive enough.
He's quick enough.
He's not a superb athlete.
But with that kind of broad shoulders and long arms,
the guy can get distance between himself and a cornerback,
even if they're really close or the cornerback thinks he's really close.
He can create that space just by being bigger and having a broader range than them.
So it's really fun to look at those types of intricacies
that you can't really pull out of the numbers
and really dig into why players like that are successful.
When you look at the system this year, Kent, of
just solely pro days, no combines, how did that impact your numbers at all, really? Because I
know you mentioned in the years past, you combine both them together. But is it kind of different
this year, Kent? Just kind of like every day, you're kind of cycling through the pro day numbers
and updating your system instead of having like a three-day extravaganza in an indie to really
have it all
happen at once.
Oh, it's been, it's been all kinds of fun as you can imagine.
I'm trying to keep the numbers up and I'm trying to get them posted because
people want to see that stuff. They want to see how their guys did.
But yeah, it's,
it's tough because the media numbers have always been bad and that's not a
knock on local media guys.
Beat reporters for college are just as tough
as beat reporters for pro football. They want to cover their team as accurately and well as they
can. But they just tend to post the best numbers that they hear. They know how to cater to their
audience. That hasn't changed. And that's why we see all these souped up juice numbers that people
are thinking, oh, we're getting so many fast times this year.
The official times are not really any different than any other year,
with the exception of the offensive tackle class.
And that's more due to the fact that this is a ridiculous offensive tackle class.
But the times that we're actually getting officially,
the official numbers that go to the NFL,
they're not any different from any other year.
The only difference is, like you said, we're not getting over a couple of days in one month. We're getting
them five days a week, every week for two months. And it looks like these numbers are just so much
crazier. And what's actually making it worse is there's so much fewer, so much fewer players this
year that we're going to get numbers on. The volume that I track for Raz is really large. I get about 2000 players a year now. This year, I probably won't even hit 1000. I might get
750 maybe I think. So it's much lower volume than I'm used to getting. And because of that,
almost all the guys you're getting getting testing numbers for are the guys who are probably going to
get drafted or find their way into camp. You're not getting a lot of those lower testing guys who don't really have a shot in the NFL.
So proportionally, it seems like we're getting way more numbers that are high than we normally
would. While in reality, it's just due to a number of factors. We're getting times from
different places. We're getting them spread out over a longer term, and we're getting a much lower volume of players than we usually get.
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When you look at the draft itself, Ken, just the overall NFL draft process,
obviously you have like a consensus top 100 of the elite, elite prospects in the NFL draft each year.
But once you get into like the round four, round five range on day three
and then going through six and seven, even UDFAs,
is it fair to say at that point, Kent, it's best to just bet on athletes?
Like when you look at the RAS scores, like I feel like it's fair to say
if a guy has a high RAS score and he's in round four, round five, round six,
it's better to take a bet on a guy like that?
I absolutely would.
I'm a little bit biased in that regard.
But yeah, it's better to bank on athleticism
when you're in those later rounds in general.
And the numbers usually back that up.
Not all the time.
Cornerbacks, for instance, first round, second round, third round,
you want the athletes.
It's usually a bad gamble to take lower testing athletes in the first three rounds.
After round three, when you get rounds four through seven, there's not really much of a difference in hit rate based on testing.
But that being said, a lot of the guys who do hit and stay, guys that have that staying power that become perennial pro bowlers or become long-term starters those
guys generally tend to test ball so it really depends on the perspective but it's always better
to bank on your bigger testing athletes whenever you can especially at skill positions um it's just
it's just a good idea one of the ones that i always go back to for individual tests is
offensive line um offensive linemen regardless of which draft round that
they're in if they have a really good shuttle time they tend to hit even if they're drafted
in the later rounds in the NFL opportunity is king you getting a chance to get on the field
and show what you're made of that's the biggest part about being an NFL player is getting on the
field and if you can do that, that's awesome.
So lower drafted guys, guys drafted in the later rounds,
that test really well, they still manage to find their way
out of the field more often than guys that don't test well.
So that's, I think, the biggest part is those guys just get better opportunities
because they bring something to the table that a lot of other guys don't.
That's a really valid point there, Kent. And I've been trying my best to keep track. I know,
obviously, this year, we don't get like the combine, like interviews of guys out at podium
saying what team they met with. We really have to rely on like these post-Pro Day Zoom press
conferences, or if we get lucky, we just hear about it out and about. But I've kept track of
a list so far of the Pro Days the Colts have been out so far.
And here's the list for you, Kent. I have Northwestern,
which Chris Bauer was at by the way, Alabama, Frank,
Rick and Chris Bauer were also there. And then from here,
it's a quick list of I haven't marked so far, Texas, Michigan,
Virginia tech, Penn state, North Carolina, Miami, Ohio state,
Washington, BYU and ECU. Just based off that list, Kent, we were just talking about offensive lineman, ironically Carolina, Miami, Ohio State, Washington, BYU, and ECU.
Just based off that list, Kent, we were just talking about offensive linemen, ironically enough.
Like Northwestern, you have Rashawn Slater.
Alabama, you have Alex Leatherwood.
Sam Cosney of Texas.
Jalen Mayfield of Michigan, who didn't really test that well in RAS.
But Christian Derusall from Virginia Tech.
It feels like, to me, just based off this list, Kent, like the Colts need to replace Andy Costanzo,
and we know they love athletes in the offensive line there.
I don't know if they're giving away off that pro day list, of course,
but I feel like one of those guys, like a Slater,
if he somehow slips a 21, which I think is very, very unlikely,
but an Alex Leatherwood or a Sam Cosme,
I think those guys make a lot of sense based on what we've been talking about,
the athletes at the offensive line position,
as well as where the Colts have been so far with these pro days.
Oh, absolutely.
This is a great class for a team like the Colts who need some help on the offensive
line, because even if all these guys had went to the combine, they would have tested really
well.
A lot of these guys are just ridiculous athletes.
And that's why it was such a big surprise when Jalen Mayfield didn't test all that well
at Michigan's pro day, because this group is so crazy.
And he's in that discussion
with all those first-name guys like Cosme and Leatherwood and Slater
and Sewell, who hasn't drafted yet.
But Sam Cosme, if they're looking for a straight tackle,
he's got a 9.99 RAS all-time, almost the best score of all-time.
And the only reason he didn't keep that was because Spencer Brown's official times
were just as good as good
as his uh projected times from the media and this is a 311 pound guy talking to Spencer Brown
311 pounds and he ran a 6.96 three cone and a 4-4 flat shuttle time those are made up numbers
uh from an offensive line standpoint that's that almost the best three-cone ever.
I don't even know who that other guy is, but that's crazy.
And a 4-4 shuttle, like I mentioned, that's that magic metric
that you want for an offensive lineman.
So if they don't get a guy in the first round,
Spencer Brown's the guy to pay attention to after that.
But Sam Cosme fell just shy of that because Spencer Brown's a mutant.
But that's two guys who are among the most athletic offensive linemen I've
ever tracked.
And my data goes back 35 years.
You mentioned Alex Leatherwood, Rashawn Slater.
Those are guys that the Colts are really going to like,
not just because they're really, really athletic,
but because those are guys that can play inside and outside.
And I know the Colts value that type of thing where a guy can play inside and outside.
It's part of why they value guys that are that athletic,
because they want guys that can flip outside if they need to.
And a tackle going inside, it doesn't happen as often as we make it out to be,
but it does happen.
And it happens more often than the opposite where a guard flips to the outside.
But the Colts want to be able to have that option available to them if they can. And this is a great class to have outside. But the Colts want to be able to have that option available to them
if they can, and this is a great class to have that.
Two guys on the edge that are on that pro day list we just mentioned, Kent.
Jalen Phillips in Miami really blew up his pro day yesterday.
I think he might be a guy who could be one of the best players available
for the Colts at 21 to address that pass rush.
They have Quidipe of Michigan.
I think he would have even had a better RAS score than he put up
if he were to do the three-tone. already seen that legendary so mad it's it's crazy
like what those two guys have put up and pay is like i mentioned be even better what's your
opinion of those two guys in this class it feels like the colts want to address pass rush early
just based off the athletic traits those two might be the best bet there jalen phillips is a fantastic
athlete and he's got really good tape he's a guy that you love to watch on tape.
The issue is going to be the injuries.
He had some concussion issues that caused him problems before.
I don't know where he gets drafted.
He's one of those guys that's going to get drafted,
and it's going to be too low or too high.
There is no right spot for Jalen Phillips.
As far as how he plays, you want that guy on your team.
It's just the risk factor that goes into that.
Athletically, there's no risk.
He's a ridiculous athlete.
You mentioned Quidipe.
I'm so mad that we didn't get testing on him.
Unfortunately, he had a quad injury that happened while he was at his pro date.
It was minor.
It's not a big, serious issue or anything.
But he opted not to do the agility drills, and that made me so mad.
We were just talking about Spencer Brown putting up ridiculous numbers.
Quiddie Paye would have ran probably the best cone time all time for a 260
pound player if he had actually ran it and he didn't.
And I'm very mad that that happened. We got robbed of that.
Both of those are really good athletes and they're really good football
players on your team. A guy like pay. I mean, that's,
that's a huge complimentary piece for what the Colts already have on their
offensive line. You could do so much with him. And Phillips, like I said,
he's got great tape. He's a great guy. You want to put out there size and
athleticism. They both got it in spades, man.
One guy who I think really was disappointing yesterday at Miami's parade.
It was Gregory Rousseau who he, who he opted out this past year,
had monster numbers his retro freshman year, 15 and a half sacks.
But when looking at his RAS, it really was disappointing.
But when you change it over, I mean, this is kind of the cool thing about RAS
and going in there on the relativeathleticscores.com
and change the position if you wanted to.
Maybe the biggest takeaway from yesterday was a guy like Rousseau's size
that's almost 6'7", 270 pounds.
He's a 9.3 if he's a defensive tackle.
Maybe teams now see his numbers and think maybe we should kick him inside instead.
Maybe that's the biggest takeaway there.
Yeah, and you get a lot of guys like that.
Russo got a lot of crap for how he tested.
He didn't test all that bad.
He had what we look at is just a defensive line
uh uh testing and you know the Colts are familiar with that they they traded for a guy like that
um you know they they know those guys that didn't test very well at the end but you they know they
can move them inside when they need to it's not that you're never going to put them on the outside
it's just you're not going to use them as a speed rusher to try to bend that edge and get around every play. That's not his game, and it's not
Rousseau's game. One of the comps that I saw for him was Sedarius Smith. Sedarius Smith measured
similarly to Rousseau in that regard. He didn't measure out really well as a defensive end,
but you put him on the inside, it's much different. If you take any defensive end and you flip their their position
to defensive tackle it's probably going to be a lot better because defensive ends are faster
they generally generally have better explosion numbers they generally have better agility numbers
they're just going to be smaller and have a lower bench but that's seven versus three metrics so the
numbers are almost always going to be better but when you have a bigger defensive lineman and he wins on the inside that's when it actually means something to make those kinds of
position switches and look at him um and he's a bigger guy he's 266 pounds he's probably going
to play a little bit bigger than that when he gets into the pros he's probably going to play
closer to 275 um it's it's exactly the kind of guy that you're looking for to do that type of thing
um i'm sure that his pro day hurt him because it generally does hurt guys like that when they don't it's exactly the kind of guy that you're looking for to do that type of thing.
I'm sure that his pro day hurt him because it generally does hurt guys like that when they don't test off the charts. But I don't think it's going to hurt him so much that he's going to like
continue to fall out of the first round into the third round or something like that. He's
still going to get drafted fairly high. I still think he's got a promising career ahead of him.
And his testing numbers, like I said, they're not as bad
as people are making it out to be.
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Another Miami guy real quick, Ken Forrest, having the overall class for Raz,
and that's Brevin Jordan, who is one of my favorite guys at tight end in this class.
I've watched him and think he could play the exact role of the Colts
when he threw a Trey Burton last year.
I think he'd be a great fit for them in round two,
but his Raz score wasn't at the level I thought it would be.
Do those guys, like when you watch the tape of some prospects,
can you go back and look at their combine or their credit numbers
and see a little slight difference in
correlation there, does it throw you off a little bit?
Because Brevin Jordan, I feel like, was that guy for me this year.
Yeah, and at most positions
I absolutely do. I don't
at tight end.
So, I told you at the beginning,
you never take these numbers as gospel.
You never want to be absolute and be like,
no, I don't care if he's got good tape.
He didn't run very fast, so I don't like him.
Tight end is the position that, for me, as a guy who has no investment into an NFL front office,
it's just a position where I can't invest it.
There are no poorly testing tight ends that find success in the NFL consistently.
It doesn't happen.
It doesn't happen at all.
Jordan Reed was the last one to do so,
and he tested injured when he tested prior to his draft,
and he remained injured for a good portion of his career.
But that was the only one.
That's the only guy that you can find who tested below average at tight end
and then was successful in the NFL.
It just doesn't happen.
So you try to find a value.
The Minnesota Vikings drafted Irv Smith in the second round a couple of years ago.
He's been okay, but has he been a focal point for their offense?
Has he been what you would consider as a hit for a second round pick?
Not so far.
I mean, he's been a breakout candidate each year,
and he may be breakout this year and break that mold, but it hasn't happened yet.
And until it does, I just can't get behind it.
I was very disappointed in his time, his shuttle time.
That's what really threw me off because his time drill was fine.
He ran a good 40-yard dash.
He had decent projected splits.
I expected splits to be even better than the projected ones.
His explosion drills weren't that good.
I was a little surprised by that,
but I even made a post about Brett and Jordan saying,
look, don't read too much into it because we don't have his agility numbers yet.
And if those are good,
and then his splits come back better,
like I expect them to,
that's going to raise his score quite a bit.
And then his shuttle kind came in.
It was a 4.62, which is terrible.
That's 15th percentile for a tight end.
And I was just like, oh, man, that is really not good for him
because that's how the guy wins.
He's quick and he's fast.
Well, if he's only fast, he's small for a tight end.
You can't really do much with that.
That's when you go into always probably just an H-back.
And those guys don't get a whole lot of usage in the NFL.
They don't get a whole lot of targets.
They don't bring a huge value to an offense.
So it tends to hurt them, especially in the draft.
I mentioned before that you just don't see guys like that succeed.
So you don't see them get drafted high.
We've never had a tight end get drafted in the first round with a RAS below five.
And since 1987, so that's 34 drafts, we've only only had nine players nine tight ends drafted in the second
or third round so two two rounds um with a with a sub five raz and there's not a it's not a strong
list and like i said jordan reed's the only guy yeah it's it's really cool how like this stuff
correlates with each other and this is why your website realtorathleticscores.com is so great,
Ken.
I have just a couple more questions before.
I really appreciate the time tonight.
Looking at your RAS scores right now for the 2021 draft class,
we have two guys with perfect tens.
I can mention earlier in the show,
Norton Iowa offense tackle,
Spencer Brown,
Creed Humphrey,
the center from Oklahoma,
even guys like Cosby at 9.9.
We have a lot of players here.
It's not a 9.9,
9.8 threshold. And it seems of players here, if not 9.9, 9.8 threshold.
And it seems like to me, Kent, I mean, early return stuff,
or we still have a couple weeks of pro days, I believe.
But this seems to me like one of those years where there is a lot more
athletes than we're used to as far as like elite, elite athletes go.
We've gotten quite a few, and it's a little bit misleading
because of the positions that we've had these guys coming in
at and the types of guys that we've had coming in because like I mentioned we knew this offensive
tackle class was crazy good and most of these guys are ridiculous athletes we had a guy like
Spencer Brown that you mentioned he's currently sitting at that 10 spot we knew he was going to
test really well he was considered a really good athlete I personally didn't think he was going to
test that well I was blown away by his numbers. But that was the big thing about Spencer
Brown. He's just a sick athlete. We had guys in the cornerback class, Patrick Sertain and J.C.
Horn both tested really, really well. But we expected those guys to test really, really well.
We just expected them to have poor agility times. and then neither of them did their agility drills.
So they get to keep their scores high.
We also had Jason Owa from Penn State, who people were just calling on.
People knew he was going to have ridiculous numbers.
They knew this is a 260-pound guy that was going to run sub 4-4, and then he did.
But we knew that was going to happen.
And then Baron Browning today, the linebacker from Ohio State.
Some people acted surprised, but people have been talking for months about how he was going to blow
his pro day out of the water.
So yes, we have a lot of guys that are testing really high.
I won't know the exact number of how this compares to other draft class until we complete
and we get all the official numbers in.
But most of the guys that tested just ridiculously are the guys that we kind of
expected to test that way. We've only had a couple of surprises. Jonathan Marshall, defensive tackle
from Arkansas, I don't think anybody was calling for testing that well. Quinn Miners from Wisconsin
Whitewater, nobody even knew existed until the senior bowl. And then Milton Williams, the defensive
end from Louisiana Tech tested really well, and nobody was really calling for that either.
But guys like Jason Ola, Sertain, Horn, Cosby, Brown, Humphrey,
we all knew those guys were going to test really good.
Last one here for you, Kent, just looking at the Colts draft,
and especially their two picks at 21-54.
They gave away their third-round pick this year,
and what's more likely not going to be a first-round pick in next year's draft than the Carson Wentz trade.
They have two big needs at left tackle and pass rusher.
We just talked about a lot of guys here throughout today's show,
like Jalen Phillips and Quiddie Paye could be at our 21.
Cosney could be an option for them at 21 as well.
Spencer Brown could be one at 54 if they go pass rusher early.
If you were looking at those two positions for the Colts
and what they need at that position and how they really benefit
and they really correlate over the last couple of years with your system,
Kent, that they really draft guys.
They're very much high athletic guys on your RAS score system at edge and
offensive line.
Who were the guys you would target for the Colts in that first and second
round range if we were going off that?
Yeah, you mentioned Cosme.
I think Cosme would be the perfect target for them first round.
I think that's right about the right range for him to go.
Testing as well as he did, it might've pushed him up a little bit, but I haven't really heard that as much. I think
he's kind of staying in the same range that he's always been. Brady Christensen from Brigham Young
is a name to pay attention to on that day too. He's really kind of raised his profile up after
just another tackle. They had a really good pro day. Alex Leatherwood, I don't think is going to
go in the first round. I think he'll fall into the second.
And he's a guy to pay attention to.
He's a great athlete, tested way better than a lot of people expected to.
He's got some technical issues he needs to clean up.
But I think he's the type of guy that the Colts really like to look into.
Walker Little is another guy that doesn't get a whole lot of talk.
He's out of Stanford, an offensive tackle.
He tested really well.
He's got some injury concerns
that are probably going to give people pause,
but he could still go day two.
And I think if he does,
I think the Colts are the type of team
that look at a guy like him.
Jason Owa, I mentioned that at Penn State.
He got way hyped up when he tested
just because of how crazy he tested.
I don't think he goes in the first round
just because the tape isn't really there.
The statistics don't really back up that high of a draft selection.
You mentioned Jalen Phillips.
If they think the medicals are clear, he's a perfect round one option.
If they're not, maybe he's still a good round two option if the medicals aren't clear.
Joseph Osai out of Texas is another guy that I think could go in the first round, probably
will go in the first round.
And he's another option that they could look at early on.
Joe Tryon out of Washington just tested.
And I had him, I think, in the fourth when I first did a review of him.
But I've heard nothing but early day two hype for him.
And then he tested really, really well.
He's got the same type of body type that the Colts like to target.
So he's another player to keep an eye on.
Kent, this is awesome stuff.
Really appreciate you coming on tonight's show here on Locked on Colts
to discuss the RAS system and looking ahead to the 2021 NFL Draft.
Colts fans, if you're not already, go ahead and follow Kent on Twitter,
at Math Bomb.
Does some great stuff as well over on PFN.
Kent, really appreciate your time tonight.
Thanks, man.
I'm glad you guys had me on.