Locked On Colts - Daily Podcast On The Indianapolis Colts - Should the Indianapolis Colts Pursue Jimmy Garoppolo?

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

On today's episode, Locked On Colts x Locked On 49ers are here for a special Locked On Crossover Special. After the Indianapolis Colts traded away Carson Wentz, could they soon be in on Jimmy Garoppolo from the San Francisco 49ers? According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Indy is seriously pursuing Garoppolo and are in the mix for him in a trade.Does Jimmy G actually make sense in Indy? Evan, Brian Peacock and Eric Crocker dissect this scenario from all angles. What would Garoppolo cost in a trade?All of this, plus so much more, in a must-listen episode preparing Colts fans for potentially what's next at QB1 in 2022. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You are Locked On Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh boy, does the NFL never sleep. We've got more blockbuster trades going on in the NFL, more and more heat around the 49ers and their quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. Is he on the move? We've got a special guest joining us today on this live Q&A offseason episode of Locked On 49ers to give us some of that inside information.

The Indianapolis Colts potentially being a landing spot for Jimmy G. All of that coming up right now. You are Locked On 49ers, your daily San Francisco 49ers podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to Locked On 49ers. Brian Peacock and Eric Crocker with you at At BDPeacock, at Eric underscore Crocker. Thanks for making us your first listen here on the Locked On Podcast Network, your team, every day.

And let's just get this kicked off. By the way, shout out to everybody in the chat. This thing's on fire already. I know everyone's excited about what's going on in the offseason. This is why, Croc, we can do a podcast in the offseason. That's why Lock on podcast network exists. That's why days a week. I think it helps that we cover the San Francisco 49ers and they continue to

just give us, I mean, they're pulling content out of their ass. Awesome. Every, every single day, this team gives us something to talk about. And so it's, it's,'s fantastic, and it's fun.

And I've always enjoyed the offseason just about as much as the regular season, Kroc. And I know you've been on the pod with me so many times, even before you were the co-host, just to talk draft. And that was the most fun times we had talking about the Niners was in the offseason, right? So draft season is the best season, in my opinion. The free agency, all the trades going on with the quarterback movement. I mean, it's must-see TV at this point. So I'm psyched for it, and I'm psyched to talk about the Niners tonight

with all the folks in the chat. Let's get this going. But first, let's bring on today's guest, a very special guest on this live edition of Locked On at 49ers, Evan Sidery. Joining the program, he is the host of Locked On at 49ers. Evan Sidery joining the program. He is the host of Locked On Colts. And Evan, welcome to the program. We might have a little action between these two teams, right? It seems like there's some smoke as it pertains to the Indianapolis Colts

potentially making a move now for Jimmy Garoppolo now that they have a vacancy after sending Carson Wentz to Washington. Yeah, it's been a crazy day for the Colts sending Carson Wentz, getting off his entire contract, tuning in at $70 million in cap space for next week for free agency. There's a lot of smoke now around Jimmy Garoppolo to the Colts. We heard Ian Rappaport about five minutes after the trade happened saying they're now in the mix for Jimmy Garoppolo. So very interesting to me. Garoppolo is the polar opposite of Wentz, a great leader, as we were talking about off the air, Brian. Very accurate down the field as well.

It feels like he'd be kind of the guy the Colts are looking for right now. And it wouldn't really cost that much. I mean, I think it's something that maybe they could kind of swap these picks that they just got from Washington or give out their own picks to San Francisco and kind of have it be a net positive in return, get Jimmy Garoppolo more accurate, a better leader, I think a better overall fit for the offensive free break once the run. A lot of folks in the chat, Evan, want DeForest Buckner back in return for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Can we shoot that down right now, or can we play ball there? We can shoot it down, but DeForest Buckner is a quarterback, so he needs something there. How do you think the rest of the Colts fan base feels about Jimmy Garoppolo and have you kind of been able to kind of check that because so far from Peacock and I anytime we put out little feelers or just any thoughts of Jimmy Garoppolo being able to help another team win games we're a ton of pushback from the fan base do you think that's the same thing that way that the Colts fans are thinking? Or do you think not? Like they will welcome Jimmy Garoppolo with open arms after having to, I don't want to say deal with Carson Wentz because I think he played well, but after having a guy like Carson Wentz and kind of losing out at the end of the season,

the way they did against the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Raiders, do you think they'll welcome a Jimmy Garoppolo with open arms? I think the Colts front office will welcome him with open arms. I don't know about fans because I brought up today on Twitter and I brought Jimmy Garoppolo. I think he's the best fit for this team right now. I think in the short and long term, he's a better fit for the offense. And immediately people were like, oh, that's just Jimmy Garoppolo wins.

It's the same guy. I'm like, no, I don't think he actually is. If you go and look at the advanced numbers, if you look at the overall fit within the offense, I think it's a perfect fit. I think it makes a lot of sense. Jimmy Garoppolo will go to a winning situation, be competing in the AFC South alongside the Tennessee Titans with Ryan Tannehill.

He has a strong running game. He has a great defense, a great offensive line. He still needs some weapons. I think the Colts will go out and get him some weapons that they did indeed trade for him. Probably get a legit wide receiver and a tight end there alongside Michael Pittman. I just think it makes too much sense. Colts fans are definitely not on board with the crock. I don't know why, because I just think it makes too much sense not to happen.

But yeah, Colts fans think that Carson Wentz and Jimmy Graupel are the exact same player. And I can attest that. I know you guys can attest to that too. I don't really think they are. Now, you talked about a swap of picks and saying, you know what, just swap the picks I just got. Do you think that's what it would take to get Jimmy Garoppolo for the 49ers? He is kind of coming off of this shoulder surgery and he has to go through the whole rehab process. He can't throw a ball until July. You still don't mind giving up the capital that you gave up for,

that you got in return for a healthy Carson Wentz? Yeah, it's a little, makes me a little apprehensive there because you'd be going to the same situation you had a Carson Wentz. You got hurt on the third day of training camp last year, missed all training camp, all preseason, not really having a lot of rhythm there. So Garoppolo missing all of OTAs, but it sounds like he'd be back for training camp.

So I'm not too worried about it. I think it, if anything rhythm there. So Garoppolo will be missing all of OTAs, but it sounds like he'll be back for training camp. So I'm not too worried about it. I think, if anything, I think Jimmy Garoppolo will be able to have a smoother transition because I think he's just a more accurate quarterback than Carson Wentz. He'll be able to do the things that Frank Reich wants. So I wouldn't be opposed to it. I think the Colts now have three day-two picks. They have a second-round pick, and they have two third-round picks. If the Colts wanted to swap out, let's say, hypothetically,

their own third-round pick, number 82 overall, plus a conditional third- picks. If the Colts want to swap out, let's say hypothetically, their own third round pick, number 82 overall, plus a conditional third round pick next year that could turn to a second, I think that makes a lot of sense. I think you could really do something like that. It's not far off from what I've been saying the 49ers would probably get. I thought Washington might have been that team, and it's interesting to see Wentz go to Washington for pretty much what I've been saying the Niners could possibly get from Washington for Jimmy Garoppolo.

And I know Jimmy has a say in it, and we'll see if this ends up all working out. But from a Colts perspective, and I understand where Colts fans are at. If they think, well, what are we doing with a lateral move going from Wentz to Jimmy Garoppolo. I do think those quarterbacks are somewhat in the same tier. And if you are the Colts, are you really paying a premium to go from two quarterbacks that are in the same tier? And we saw these two teams play, and I know it was bad weather game this year, but I didn't come out of that game thinking, oh my God, Jimmy Garoppolo is a heck of a lot better quarterback than Carson Wentz. I think it's more so just about the field stuff and about volatility. I think Carson Wentz, we saw last year, his highs were very high, but his lows were awful.

We saw it the last two weeks of the season against the Raiders and the Jaguars. He's the reason why they lost. Obviously, the defense didn't have great games those last two weeks either, but Carson Wentz looked like a bottom five quarterback in the NFL when it mattered most, and that's why I think the Colts the wrong way. We've seen Jimmy Garoppolo. He's taken a team to a cerebral. He's taken a team to an NFC title game.

He has the leadership qualities. I think Carson Wentz lacked. And according to The Athletic today and the story they put out about the Carson Wentz from the Colts side, the Colts were just not fans of Carson Wentz and his leadership ability or lack thereof. And Jimmy Garoppolo is the polar opposite. I just think it makes too much sense from that standpoint. But just having a more steady hand.

Carson Wentz, when he drops back in the pocket, he feels like you're going to have a heart attack because you don't know what's going to happen next. Jimmy Garoppolo is kind of the opposite thing where you know you're going to at least get something good where it's not going to be a lot of ups and downs, so to say. It's interesting your take on Jimmy Garoppolo because I think if you polled a lot of 49er fans, it might be the opposite. And you might be explaining Jimmy Garoppolo to them. But I do think that there's this element of Jimmy Garoppolo where he's a winner, right? Whether it's whether the 49ers are winning because of him or he's just contributing. I do think there's just this thing

with him where he contributes to wins. And Peacock and I, we kind of nicknamed him Jimmy W. And I don't know how he's doing it. It's almost like our built bars, right? We do this. We talk about built bars and how they make them taste good first, and then they add the healthy stuff to it. And how do they make it healthy when it tastes so good? Same thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. It's like, well, how are you winning when it looks like the team is carrying him, but there's just something about him. Maybe it's the leadership skills that you spoke about, Evan. But it seems like he typically makes timely throws, right,

when the 49ers feel like they're kind of out of it or they need it. I think the tough thing is, and if he is traded to the Colts, one thing you all have to deal with is he doesn't really blow teams out or put them away. So every game ends up kind of being tighter than it has to be. I think that's one thing with Jimmy Garoppolo that can be a little nerve wrecking. I think the positive there just real quickly about Jimmy. I mean,

he had Jonathan Taylor behind him. I mean, that would help out a lot. Just having it like that behind them make a lot of difference for him. Oh, absolutely. Strong run game, play some defense,

let Jimmy Garoppolo make sure you're getting into the right plays at the line of scrimmage, make some throws in the intermediate area of the field, get the ball in the hands of the playmakers, let them do their thing. And really the number one thing in all this, it seems clear to me that the Colts would be looking for is that leadership, his presence in the locker room. Everyone loves him. Everyone has glowing things to say about him that's played with him, that's coached with

him in the 49ers locker room. So if the Colts are looking for that, someone you can win with someone who can facilitate the offense, someone who can get you in the right play at the line of scrimmage, which goes sort of overlooked a lot of times, you know, cause you see the wild throws, but you don't know the other things that the checks that are happening, you know, sometimes getting you into the right run play is the best play back and, and run into a sack or throw an interception. Right. So, um, and above all leadership, if that's what the Colts are looking for, then Jimmy Garoppolo could absolutely be their guy.

Next, Evan, I want to ask you a question. What would it, what would the offer be if you were in charge? What would you be offering for Jimmy Garoppolo? And Kroc and I can either accept that offer or shut you down next. But I want to talk about the tournament. It's tourney time.

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You just sent Carson Wentz off for, and first of all, can we talk about this? What's going on in these meetings? I would love to hear the phone calls from these guys, nickel and diamond in each other for, okay, let's also swap second round picks that are only five picks apart. And we don't even know who's going to be on the board yet. That pick number 42. And with the Russell Wilson trade, it was like, all right, well, give us another player. And then a fourth going this way and a fifth coming this way. I mean, I wonder if they're like looking at the chart and crunching these numbers and

like, we need 300 more points on the chart. That's a fascinating part to me. Do you have any insight on how that trade went down with Washington and Wentz? The swap of second round picks was the weird part. Yeah. It seems like Chris Ballard knew Washington was desperate after Russell Wilson. They swung and missed on that. He said, hey, I know you guys sent us an offer earlier. Reportedly, they first, a fourth, and a sixth round pick for Carson Wentz and turned into what they got. That just says a lot about Chris Ballard and how he was able to maneuver that.

I think it's intriguing because the idea that if they don't go in a direction, Jimmy Garoppolo, so to say, then moving up five spots is intriguing because now they're only 10 spots away from number 32 overall. If they like a rookie quarterback, they move up to number 32 overall, get that fifth year option. It'll cost less for him now. So that's just on the monitor there.

I think that's a little interesting. All right. I'm going to sit back. Crocs going to So that's just on the monitor there. I think that's a little interesting. All right. I'm going to sit back. Croc's going to stand in as GM for the 49ers. Evan, you're GM of the Colts. I'll advise Croc maybe a little bit here, but what do you think would be the offer from the Colts to the 49ers for Jimmy Garoppolo? Well, let me start it off, see if you'll bite on this, Croc.

82 overall, third-round pick, and that's it. You know what? We got a deal. That's all it would take. What? Really? Okay. I'm all about that. Thank you. Listen, we're talking about a guy. He has a shoulder

injury. I don't know if his arm is about to fall off or not. He can't throw until training camp, and you want to, off the bat, offer me a third round pick, I don't know if his arm is about to fall off or not. He can't throw until training camp. And you want to, you know, off the bat, offer me a third round pick. I'm taking it. Yeah. I mean, I'm all about it from the Colts standpoint. Yeah.

Just because the Colts has got an extra third round pick from Washington. So you're kind of just swapping out those picks for the, for the better upgrade. So I am the Colts. I mean, also from, I wouldn't have to maybe, you maybe – realistically, you wouldn't want to play hardball. But, I mean, before going into the trade, I would have taken a three. So when you just offered me the three, maybe I would have been like, maybe I should counter with something else. But, yeah, that's what I would have – if you tell me right now,

if you told me tomorrow the 49ers trade Jimmy Garoppoloolo and they get a third uh and he's going to the colts i would take it well crocker i think it's done too i cannot believe that he went for the first offer there you got to play some hard ball croc uh wait so wait evan so how how far would you have been willing to go there because um i think the 49 49ers are probably asking as much or more from teams. I know the 49ers are saying a first-round pick. That's their first thing. I don't know if they believe they're going to get that, but I bet that's what they're telling teams.

It's got to be a first-round pick, and then they'll try to negotiate a way to get some sort of a conditional future first-round pick or something like that. But what would you have been willing to go to? If Kroc played hardball with you, how high would you think the Colts would go for this? Yeah, I mean, honestly, the reason why I brought the third round pick was because of course and whence you get a third round pick and you also get conditional potential second round pick in the draft, I would have gone to that point. I'll give you a third round pick next year.

If Jimmy plays 13 games, like 75% of the snaps, you guys turn to a second-round pick next year. I mean, maybe I'm too high on Jimmy Garoppolo and his fit in this Colts offense, but I just think it makes too much sense. I feel like if it's a third-round pick, I think Chris Ballard takes that immediately just because you have a steady hand, you don't lose any draft capital, you gain a higher pick in the third round from the Washington commanders. So I think it makes too much sense all around.

I think we're kind of talking ourselves into a deal. We should just phone this in to Chris Ballard and John Lynch. What if John Lynch says, okay, it's not going to cut it, but I know you have some reservations about the shoulder. So we got to go to conditions and we got to go to 2023, but we still want that one. So what about no picks this year and we need a conditional first round pick next year and if grappolo is active for 13

games then it's a first and if not then it's a second round pick so even in a scenario you're giving up a second round pick with you hang up the phone immediately at that point? I'm not doing more than a third. I'm not. I just think if Carson Wentz can get you, yeah, the most I would do is the Carson Wentz trade. If Carson Wentz can get you a third round pick and a conditional second, I think I would do the same thing for Jimmy Garoppolo. Like we mentioned all show, they're the same tier of player. If Wentz can get that, who I think was worse than Garoppolo last year, I think I would would do that I would do a third round pick and a conditional day two pick in next year's draft but if all it takes to a third round pick and one interesting thing too I'm just curious from your guys standpoint and you've mentioned this before that Jimmy has a say in this if he says hey

there's other offers on the table from the Saints the Steelers and there's better offers from those teams but I want to go to India would they give in and say hey there's better offers from those teams, but I want to go to Indy. Would they give in and say, hey, there's better offers on the table? Maybe they get a conditional first-round pick from somewhere else, but Jimmy really wants to go to Indy. Do you think they would roll over and say, you know what, let's do what's best for him? Yeah, well, here's an issue. Jimmy Garoppolo in his contract, he's probably going to want some kind of restructure. So if he gets traded to a team and he's like, well, I'm not restructuring anything and I'm not going to want some kind of restructure. So if he gets traded to a team and he's like, well, I'm not restructuring anything and I'm not going to like, you know, then there could be an issue.

Y'all remember, what was it, a couple of years ago? Everybody looks at Josh Allen now and it's like Josh Allen's this amazing quarterback. But remember when Antonio Brown was traded to the Bills and he was like, I ain't going there. Then all of a sudden the trade disappeared. What if Jimmy does something like that where it's like, Oh, I'm not going to this other place. Don't trade me over there to the saints who are in cap Hill. And you can't put any players around me. I'm not going there. I think it'd make it hard for the 49ers to, to kind of move them.

So you have to take, you know, if Jimmy's like, Hey, I'll go to this place. I think you kind of have to do it move them. So you have to take, you know, if Jimmy's like, hey, I'll go to this place, I think you kind of have to do it. Yeah, that's really interesting because I'm just, after today, the Colts, just following Colts Twitter all day, no one has any clue what's happening next. So I think Jimmy Garoppolo honestly does make a lot of sense here. If we're talking just fit, talking leadership, talking Frank Reich, by the way, I don't think I brought something to show on my podcast here but frank reich at the combine he's mentioned this multiple times his two favorite traits and quarterbacks from a statistics standpoint are yards per attempt and completion

percentage and jimmy garoppolo is one of the best in the nfl at those two metrics so he blows carson went out of the water there so i just feel like that's kind of a perfect marriage to me like frank reich coaching jimmy garoppolo and Garoppolo running that offense just efficiently, not having a lot of ups and downs, being a steady Eddie kind of guy, being a top 15-ish quarterback. I just think it's a perfect marriage. I don't know about you guys, but I just think it makes a lot of sense. I like it. I like the fit more and more, especially now that we've seen Carson Wentz sent off. And I don't know if it's as much as the Colts would just love Jimmy Garoppolo or they just hated Carson Wentz that much. But I could see the Niners even getting back more than the Colts

gave up, but I think it's, it's probably pretty close and who knows, maybe they flipped almost the exact same deal to the Niners for Jimmy Garoppolo. Cause they would be getting that leadership. And with Jimmy G, I will say the last note for your listeners, Evan, about Jimmy Garoppolo is, you know, yards per attempt is big, but he had a lot of yak yards. He had a lot of really good runners after the catch, so it's not all on him. But at the same time, I call Jimmy Garoppolo, he's basically aggressively intermediate with the way he throws. He doesn't check the ball down a lot. So, you know, he doesn't make a lot of big throws on the outside way down the field or anything like that and Carson Wentz does more of that maybe

but Carson Wentz yards per attempt is lower because what Jimmy Garoppolo does is he doesn't settle for the check down he's not a check down type of a quarterback so he will force those balls over the middle of the field he wants to get the ball to his playmakers and even though he's not throwing the ball deep down the field a lot he's not a check down guy either so he is somewhat aggressive in a really weird way. And I think that also buoys his yards per attempt a little bit. Well, also it kind of is a check down because it's kind of a check down built into the play call, right?

Where he can be a little bit more aggressive with throwing the ball downfield and he elects not to. And he takes something that he's more comfortable with throwing, but it's not a check down in the sense of, oh, I'm just going to look downfield and let me check down to the running back. It's not one of those. He's throwing it past the line of scrimmage. It's a little

kind of living on that life on the edge a little bit. It's a dangerous way to play, and that's why you'll see him throw interceptions over the middle. But when he's on, I mean, he's hitting guys in stride. They have big time run out to catch opportunities. He gets the ball out of his hands extremely quick. He's typically pretty efficient within that area.

But I don't know who that guy is for the Colts. I know they have Michael Pittman. We know that T.Y. Hilton is kind of a shell of himself. We'll see if they kind of look to add a little bit more receiver talent. What happens with Paris Campbell? I know he's had a couple of season-ending injuries and what's going on with him. But, yeah, he needs a run-after-catch guy.

If I'm the coach with the draft pick that I didn't take in the third round or the second round, get you a good run-after-catch guy. Yeah, Paris Campbell, I mean, hopefully he stays healthy there. But Paris Campbell, I think, makes an awful lot of sense for that kind of role. Obviously, he's nowhere close. I'm not saying he's anywhere close to a Debo type of guy, but he fits that kind of role where 4-3-1 speed, you can go out and get a guy that can just get in space.

I just want to ask real quick from your guys' perspective and just for the Niners' fan that there is. Honestly, I only watched Garoppolo play against the Colts this year and then their playoff run just covering the Colts-centric only. How much was Jimmy helped out by his weapons do you think if he could step into a situation let's say an Indy where is less weapons do you think it would make he'd still be the same quarterback or you think he's really buoyed by by a Debo and a Kittle no I think he'd do well I mean a lot of people remember Jimmy Garoppolo first going to the 49ers in 2017 and

he didn't like light the world fire, but he was still extremely efficient. His best connection he had was with Trent Taylor, who is kind of an afterthought over there with the Cincinnati Bengals. I believe that's where he's playing at right now. He was throwing the ball to Marquise Goodwin. Goodwin was dang near a thousand-yard receiver and still did well with Jimmy Garoppolo while he was there. So I don't think that it has to be the greatest of guys. I think just being able to not have to put the whole game on his shoulders. Again, and I don't think that would be an issue with the Indianapolis Colts because they have Taylor.

Yeah, exactly. Jonathan Taylor would help out a lot there. And I'm really just – I love the idea that I talk about more just of Jimmy Garoppolo just because he's just a steady guy. That's what the Colts need. It's not going to be a sexy move, but the Colts are just in a predicament. I mean, luckily for you guys in the NFC, the AFC is absolutely loaded with quarterbacks, and the Colts, all these guys are entering their prime years, and they can't waste them.

So the Colts are in such a pickle. I mean, maybe Jimmy Garoppolo is the best option to really maximize the core they currently have, because they can't wait around multiple years. They're going to have to go up against these Herberts, Allens, Russell Wilson now, Josh Allen, all these guys for the next five, six, seven-plus years, and they're just in a pickle. I really don't know where the Colts can go.

Yeah, and if you want to win now, you're running out of quarterbacks. Jimmy Garoppolo is probably the best one left for a team that's trying to find a quarterback that they can do that with right now. All right, we're going to let you go, Evan. Appreciate you jumping on with us. This was a lot of fun doing a little impromptu live crossover action here. We're going to jump into the chat next, so get those questions fired up. What's the least amount you would accept for Jimmy Garoppolo?

Want to see that in the chats. What are you guys looking at in free agency in the draft? What should the 49ers do with that pick if they do get one for Jimmyimmy g coming up next evan appreciate you man thanks for jumping on with us appreciate it as always guys thanks