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Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - BIG 12 SQUAD - Three Big 12 Teams ALIVE in March Madness | Can the Big 12 WIN IT ALL?

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Big 12 basketball surges as Houston, Iowa State, and Arizona eye Final Four spots—can the conference claim a national title? The hosts debate whether these teams have the stamina and star power to o...utlast the competition, spotlighting Houston’s dominance, Iowa State’s resilience, and Arizona’s elite talent. Discussions weigh the lack of Cinderella stories in this year’s March Madness, the evolving impact of NIL and the transfer portal, and whether Power Four programs have reshaped the tournament landscape. The Big 12 Squad dissects new coaching hires at Arizona State and Cincinnati—including Randy Bennett and Jerrod Calhoun—and question if “old school” coaches can thrive in the current NIL era. Insights on Big 12 expansion, program investment, and the challenges facing athletic departments round out this compelling analysis. Will Houston, Iowa State, or Arizona carry the Big 12 torch to a championship? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There are brand new head coaches in Big 12 basketball that might not be very good hires. Oh, and three teams in the suite 16 that will also be in the elite eight and then the final four and the next. This is the Dose Grande squad. You're talking ball with the Big 12 squad. From Oklahoma State to Utah, from Kansas State to BYU. From Houston to Texas Tech, it's the local experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming Big 12 weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Buckle up, it's the Big 12 Squad, and we have a seat for you. Know her feelings and thin skin allowed. Squad up, you're part of the Big 12 Squad. Every Thursday night, everybody. Welcome to the Big 12 squad. I'm Drake Toll from America's number one Big 12 podcast, Locked on Big 12.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Thank you for making this show or these shows. Your first listen every single day because we're joined by Parker Ainsworth of Lockdown Cooghs. Cody Stoball of Lockdown Oklahoma State. Oh, fucking all things, Sun Devils, Philip Mulford, joins the Dose Grande Squad and a locked on network as of the last month or so. Man, they're killing the content and they have a brand new head coach.
Starting point is 00:01:05 We will get there later. We have to start in March Madness and begin with the three teams still alive in the Big 12 conference. If you hit subscribe, we all get to keep our jobs and that would be good. Hey, Greg, did you say March Madness or March Madness? I didn't. I said March Madness, but Oklahoma State. I don't even know what that is, man. Oklahoma State does do the wrestling.
Starting point is 00:01:28 impressive wrestling i'll give it to you cody um but we also have parker hansworth whose university's doing a little bit a little more on the national scale right now given their basketball team's great success and one mountain year paul fashionably late that's how we like it around here uh parker you are once again in the sweet 16 not you you didn't make a shot this round but houston is once again in the sweet 16 and i think all three of these big i had all three of them in my final four um before before the tournament And if I could be so crass, yes, we've had teams lose. For sure. But the three teams that actually could have won the national championship are all three still alive.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And they're the only three teams in the Big 12 that actually could have won the national championship, given the injury issues of some other contenders. So I think we're okay. Yeah. And it's interesting. I remember it was really early on in basketball season. We're comparing conferences. And Level and I kind of went back. I love level, but it was like top heavy versus depth.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And I was like, you know, at that point, I thought the big. 12 had four or five teams that could win the whole thing. Topping gets hurt. Sonders gets hurt, right? Things change. And now it's proving out to be the three teams that were healthy of that group. And Iowa State's actually not healthy. And they're still doing it, which probably point that out, right? They're still playing in the second weekend. I think it speaks to a different kind of dominance when you have the top end of the sport. And I also, you know, when everyone's healthy, though they went further down than that. But it's a good showing for the big 12 it's funny you get rid of those two schools and a couple that care about basketball
Starting point is 00:03:00 and all of a sudden you're the best conference in the league and it just it's a whole different sport awesome yeah hey paul hey pa pa hello hey pa oh hello hey pa how's like paul doing how's like pa doing good life is good except for the women they just lost to kentucky one point loss i got women except for the women i didn't know where we're going didn't know where we're going life's great to the ladies you never know those ladies Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Paul. It is unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:03:35 There's always next year, they say. Life's going well. I'm excited. Football season, spring practice just started back up for West Virginia football. So obviously we can't, we don't have any basketball going on. So, you know. All right, this is, let's lead to a good question that I can give the masses because most of you are out of the tournament. My Baylor Bears, my alma mater, they're bound.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Did he make it? Oh, they're in the crowns. sorry, the crown. Wow. The cowgirls play UCLA, if that helps. Yeah. The one girl's at UCLA is a giant. I would say,
Starting point is 00:04:06 is the crowns still a thing? I thought they got canceled. No, that was a CBI. Invited this year. C. Oh, CBI. CBI is canceled.
Starting point is 00:04:13 The crown is alive. Are you guys watching March Madness still or do you not really care anymore? Sorry, Parker. I mean, I'm not watching the Houston games, but. I mean, wrestling's over. So, yeah, I'll, I'll hit some basketball up. Yeah, I've watched every game.
Starting point is 00:04:28 So hey, there we go. That Vandy game, my goodness. I know it's not Big 12, but deserves credit. West Virginia could have had Bart Byington. They wanted him. But, you know, I think Ross Hodge is going to be honestly, do think he's going to be fine. But Byington has proven what made him good at James Madison and what's making him good now, Vandy.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And that's not an easy job to win at. Neither is James Madison basketball specifically. So, you know, would have been nice to see what he could do in the Big 12. But now he's going to be moving on to somewhere bigger and better. Former Bob Duncan's disciple Calhoun got the Cincinnati job. That's another big one. Jared Calhoun is going to be a problem in this conference, promise. Speaking of the Big 12, how many of us had three Big 12 teams in the final four?
Starting point is 00:05:20 I do. I do as well. I think we all hoped it would happen. I had two. No idea. We all do bracket. This is a loaded suite 16, man. This week 16 is loaded.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It doesn't matter what side you look at for either teams. They're all tough games. I mean, every single one of. Yeah, I've got Iowa. I mean, it's a nice way, Paul.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Even Texas, you know, like they, they look really good. That's like the greatest big man ever watched to play college basketball all of a sudden. Just not good at all if it was against BYU. And then again,
Starting point is 00:05:52 against Gonzaga. Yeah, but, you know, look, they are coached by Sean Miller. so that's automatically like 10 points, down the ranking,
Starting point is 00:06:01 down whatever it is. There you go. As an ASU fan, I think I'm allowed to say that. Former Houston Cougar, Tramon Market, Texas won all those games too. The Weaver kid, man. His hairline has not gotten any better.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He's been in college for six years. You know, we don't have scaring kids. I don't think we have a product, but we should probably get some product placement for someone to help him with that. That would be a great spot. Someone should get in a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah, we're a really good NIL. but he's, it's like when I take too much Benadryl. That's what I see. I see the Weaver kid from Texas and my dreams. I went like a Dapper Dan man, a brother or art thou reference, Cohen brothers.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Nicely done. Yeah, that's pretty good. I went to their live soundtrack at the Grand Ole a couple weeks ago, met Tim Blake Nelson. Now what? Now what? So Houston obviously has made an exemplary statement in the tournament thus far.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Do you think of the three? teams in the Big 12, just Houston have the best shot to get there and get it done. Probably still Arizona to me, but Parker, what do you go? Obviously, Houston's playing at Toyo Center that helps some. That one's a fine. That's got to be a fine of some sort. No, so I, Jamie, they would have thrown Jamie Dixon in jail for that. Houston's got a good shot.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I think they also, Iowa beating Florida looks really easy on paper all of a sudden, but Iowa was a pretty tough matchup. They're really big. Big old farm boys heard of Iowa playing basketball. They got one of the best, in my opinion, one of the most underrated players in all college basketball in starts.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Well, they're coaching all last long at Iowa. He just keeps... Oh, you think McCollum's going to be... I don't know. He could probably win at Iowa for a while. They like their basketball. They put money in that program. Well, he's also from Iowa, too.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's a big reason why he went there. That's one of the reasons why they chose him. You know, I'm okay. If it ain't Peyton Clark, nobody cares. Calm down. I'm okay now with the fact that he won four natties before he came to Iowa. There's something about the, yeah, D2, right, Northwest Missouri State? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Rimbaker hired him, yeah, at where he was at northwestern Missouri. I don't really mind. A lot of people are complaining there aren't that many Cinderella's this year. Let's get your guys' thoughts on the lack of Cinderella's. If that means that marches a little bit less than what it used to be coming up next on Locked on Big 12. First, today's show is brought to you by Indeed. Indeed sponsor jobs is exactly where I go and I'm trying to hire an intern, which is once or twice a year. Workplace chaos means that I don't have time to vet all these hires. Indeed does it for me.
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Starting point is 00:09:53 At free, locked on Cougs, add free, whatever you want. Supercast, it's locked on Big 12, we're like locked on insert here. Dot supercast.com. Locked on insert here. Dot supercast.com. You get what I'm trying to say there. Here's the reason I don't mind the fact they're not a lot of Cinderella's. This is a season where Houston or Arizona had lost to St. Louis or St. Mary's or lost to
Starting point is 00:10:16 Cleveland State. Yeah, we love that. It's so fun. And then Cleveland State loses down the line in the Sweet 16 by 29 points. And you know what? Surely there will be teams that lose by 29 points. But I just don't mind the fact that we have some of the best players in college basketball giving us eight games. Paul, you mentioned it, that all have star power, that all have the intrigue of the best players in the sport.
Starting point is 00:10:38 The level of basketball that we get is not, and I don't want to die. I love Cinderella's. I'm just not that mad that we get elite basketball. I'm not complaining that we get elite basketball because a lot of times Cinderella is as good as they are predicated on three-pointers. They make a lot of threes. They get hot in the tournament, and that's what carries them through, or sometimes they dunk the ball. This year, the best 16 teams, I think, or some of the best 16 are alive. I've got a hotter take on the big picture of things, but I will say I appreciate that when none of us are calling Texas a Cinderella,
Starting point is 00:11:09 that really irked me over the weekend. It was like they have Ferraris and Lamborghinis outside as they're part of the NIL package. Like, they don't get to call, just because they actually suck for most of the year. It does not mean they get to suddenly be a Cinderella because they decided to play basketball in March. Like, that doesn't seem right. I don't necessarily think you can consider a five-seat per se as Interela, but for me, guys, it's St. John's. Iowa obviously should be part of this conversation, but I love that the Red Storm are not only relative again,
Starting point is 00:11:36 but how about the old ball coach making another run at an adie? I know he's been there a few seasons now, and he's kind of got St. John's kind of back to where they are. But I think it's pretty cool that they're able to kind of shake things up. You mentioned the star power. It's nice to see a coach have this capability. at multitude of schools reminds me a lot of like an Eddie Sutton. Maybe that's why I got
Starting point is 00:11:58 beaten Houston. Coaches and coaches and suits had like a winning record by four or five games over the weekend. Do you see that? I didn't see that. I love that though. I like that.
Starting point is 00:12:09 There you go. There you go. Does Calipari's checkered jacket? Does that count as a suit? Oh, I don't know. I don't know how officially are going with Blazer versus suit versus.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But I just saw the stat on TV. Do you think he'll wear? Because they played last year. Do you think Calipari will wear? the dinner table tablecloth, the Italian restaurant tablecloth again. He strategically wore that suit coat last year. Shout out Rick Petito. I just looked it up like Rick Petino incidents is all I surged.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And 1974, 74 linked to NCAA violations at Hawaii. I don't even, I did no idea. That was like, he's been doing this for a long time. 2009, Patino was embroiled in a case where a woman, Karen Seifer, attempted to blackmail him after an affair. She was later convicted of extortion while Petino admitted to the affair and provided I had money for an abortion. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:12:56 How does this guy keep getting job? Like, I understand. What's crazy is that happened in 2009. He wins. Like, yeah, Louisville didn't fire him. It happened in 2009 that he did that. He was like, yeah, I had an affair and I paid for an abortion. Louisville was like, well, he wins games.
Starting point is 00:13:12 2015 scandal emerged that Louisville staff members provided prostitutes and strippers to recruits and players. Shout out to do. Leading the way. NCAA investigation Petino failed to oversee his staff resulting in a five game suspension and the stripping of a championship. He only got suspended five games
Starting point is 00:13:31 for buying the kids prostitutes. They're like, I don't know, man. He wins. And finally, the 2017 Adidas bribery scandal where he bribed a recruit with $100,000. Which is actually funny to look back on it. My friend Josh Brooks,
Starting point is 00:13:47 when we were in the old rehab together, used to say one of my favorite lines, ever. His name out there's only one thing better than Prosties. And that's Prosties. Wow. Wendy's Frosties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Wow. Yeah. The only thing better, huh? Frosty. What are he at? Actually, I have a video recorded on my phone where he called me. Don't. Unfortunately, he relapsed.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And he was, he called me to, yeah. He called me to just walk. Frosties, Phil up and go. Well, that is a wonderful transition. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I did have a take on this Cinderella thing. I think unless it's a freshman, it's probably done. Because truthfully, the way basketball works now is there's some freshmen that's a stud at Chattanooga State. They're not at Chattanooga State the next year anymore. Yeah, right? Like, that thing has gone by, like, I don't think that they're ever. will be a non-power force Cinderella, like, of substance.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like, High Point had a $4.2 million NIL base. Is that real? 4.2? I thought it was 1.5. I saw 4.2 and their stadium looks like a palace. Wow. Wow. Ed Cameron Fletcher, by the way. H.P.U. is a wealthy school.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Cameron Fletcher, right, was a Kentucky Wildcat at a high school, right? Like a six star out of high school. He was so good. Yeah. So I say that to say that, like, I kind of feel like the reality is the Cinderella being Iowa Award Texas, a powerful conference team that didn't
Starting point is 00:15:26 succeed during the season, but suddenly turns it on in March, is like actually the more the way it's called. Yeah, this is in Georgia from a few years ago where they were under 500 and won the SEC. It's, I mean, it's one thing to complain about, oh, there's no Cinderella's,
Starting point is 00:15:40 you know, I miss my butlers or whatever. It's nothing to say, look, NIL, the way it works right now is not great. And it's sucking the fun out of many sports and it's sucking Cinderella's a weight, like we're not having Cinderella stores anymore. It's hard for anyone that doesn't have crazy
Starting point is 00:15:57 NIL budget to go competing any money sport. Yeah. If the NCAA wants to suck the fun out of me, um... They have to pay for them. Yeah, carry on, Drake. Frosties.
Starting point is 00:16:11 What do you have? What are you guys talking about? Given the given the, uh, the NCAA's rules that make the transfer portal terrible and the NIL everything's just sad. And now a player signed two-year contracts, hello Brendan Sorsby, and don't have to adhere to their two-year contracts.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It doesn't even matter anymore. Drake, I tell you what I don't like, if the incidentally investigated you for prostities and great. Well, yes, if you got accused for whatever, damn it, Paul, why would you?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Frosties. Yep, yep. Frosties and Frosties, it would somehow come back on Oklahoma State. So I hope that's that. Yep, you would get punished for the rest of the Big 12's doings. Coming up, new hires across the Big 12 conference,
Starting point is 00:16:55 Cincinnati and Arizona State. Were they good enough? Are they too old? Locked on Big 12 squad. Oh, today's show is brought you by TurboTax. One thing that I never liked doing was taxes. I don't have to anymore. It's tax time.
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Starting point is 00:18:33 Phil, uh, you got a new head coach in Tempe. Arizona State is going to win for a couple of years and then watch their coach retire. What, what's the vibe around the program with this hire? Well, I've learned that Arizona State basketball is a retirement home. That's people doing Arizona. That's what people do there.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You know, I mean, it works out for us because honestly, Randy Bennett is a home run higher. For ASU, which was like number 50 in basketball expenditure, the program cost, not necessarily NIO money, like number 50 in basketball expenditure this year, to get a guy that as experienced and as its quality, as Randy Bennett is, is a home run higher. My worry is that he's like 64. He said he does not want to coach into his 70s. He's going down here because his parents are getting older and they live in the Valley. And my worry is like, we're going to get them for five years, that we're going to be in
Starting point is 00:19:27 this spot again in five years. And if we don't manage this really, really intelligently, we're going to be coming up. We're going to get at a brand new stadium that's happening in like 2029. We're not going to have someone to fill the slot. And it's just going to be really awkward. So what I mean, if in those five years, he goes to four NCAA tournaments and the elite eight twice, I think that's worth. I think anybody would give you know, everyone to do that. Everyone You can always do a coach coaching waiting situation. That's what I'm hoping for. That's not what I'm doing right now.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It worked really well for Utah. So, well, you know, I guess my thing with that, Phil, is that it feels like to me, Bennett had also kind of hit us stealing at St.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Mary's with Gonzaga leaving that conference and the world. No more sweet 16. He already isn't making sweet 16s ever. He did one 10 years ago. Well, I mean, he's been there 20, he's been at St.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Mary's 25 years and kind of, he hit whatever ceiling they could hit in modern college basketball, right? And Arizona State, I think it's like, hey, it might be five or six years, but here's one last run and make it something cool, you know, and like what other place to do besides the Big 12, frankly? Yeah, but he's, there's also a piece of this of, you know, you went from St. Mary's playing Portland on Tuesday, and then Washington State this year on Friday, right?
Starting point is 00:20:43 Because they did their little, what I'm something like that, to now having Arizona, followed by Houston on the road, back at home to play Houston again. Now you have to go play at BYU and then you're going on the road to play Iowa. You're going on the road to play Iowa. Talk about getting chewed up and spit out. There are four or five game stretches
Starting point is 00:21:03 in this conference that are built to make you die. And here's the thing, right? So Bobby Hurley's teams, they would look awful sometimes. Their entire ethos is we're going to let the shooter shoot. We're going to hit these threes. And sometimes we're shooting 20% from beyond the arc. and it's or like 10% from beyond the arc and we're just not hitting shots and awful.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But we would also go and knock off the Kansas of the world, the Texas techs of the world because sometimes our shooters get hot and something happens. Yeah. We're not going to like we're going to have a much higher standard of quality out of ASU going forward. I think it's fair to say that Bennett is going to have the standard of quality. It's be very defensive team. And we're not going to have we're not going to have the high highs, but we're not going to have the low lows. His name is my only concern would be.
Starting point is 00:21:48 there doesn't seem to be a rich history right now of the older generation of coaches kind of figuring things out in this new generation of NIL in the portal for the most part. Obviously, you know, Rick up there, St. John's is a little different because the new age of college basketball, he's already been really, really good at it back when it was backdoor money.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So, I mean, he might be a little bit of an exception. But I think that you're, I don't know, your old school traditional coaches that have foundations set on, you know, high moral ground and things of that nature. I just don't know that it works a whole lot anymore. And that would be my only concern for y'all is your inner rebuild mode. And the old heads don't seem to be having the greatest grasp on this crazy NIL-F world generation because it's hard for them to get people to buy in to the university and stuff anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Here's the one thing that makes Bennett actually really good in that arena. Not that he's this crazy NIL guy, but we don't have a lot of NIL money right now. If we'd hired another guy, Derek Glasser, apparently Hardin was going to go double our NIL fund, because they played together. They're friends, yeah. Yeah, it's like, that would have been such an awful head coach hire. But anyway, Bennett has got six four stars in his entire history. He's gotten one five star. He is very good at making it work with these analytics guys, these guys coming in from Australia and from Europe.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Okay. making it work on lower NIL budget, just making it work based on people from alternate recruiting pathways. So I'm not the most worried that he's not bringing in five stars. I mean, look, ASU had the number six recruiting class in the country last year.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Look how that did us. You know? I'm not as worried there. He's one of less talent, like lower talent, certainly than like the teams, even in the WCC, right? And he got like the Delavadova kid
Starting point is 00:23:41 from, Australia, right? And then international... The Delavado kid, as if he hasn't played an entire NBA career. Well, it was a kid when he won to Sweet 16 with him in 2020. Oh, Matthew.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Oh, good old Matthew. He's all hyped up on coffee, whatever. Remember that? No, the trick to me, too, is that there's a weird connection between... He's like 30 now. Both Arizona schools. He's not hopped up on Mountain Dew?
Starting point is 00:24:06 No. But both... Oh, speaking of that. Dear Lord. I'm upset. I went to order, I went to DoorDash came or Walmart came right in the middle of our show, of course. You know, no free pub. You don't even mean, don't need to drop that name. No free pub. And they brought, they brought zero sugar. What are they thinking here? Yeah. I was pretty upset about that. Yeah. Okay. No, I was going to, my joke was going to be a comment about the NIA money and then I was going to flash up that we were poor. But that. I ruined the joke. I was. I'm sorry. I ruined your joke. No. I, I, I, I, I, I want to throw out.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I actually think that this wasn't the best hire of the cycle of the Big 12. I think there was a subtly good hire last week if anyone saw it happen. The K-State hire? Calhoun's got to be the best hire for me. Oh, you think Calhoun. Okay, let's debate here because we've got a guy at K-State. We've got a guy at Cincinnati now. So I guess Calhoun went public this week, but didn't Calhoun get like secretly back-d-door,
Starting point is 00:25:06 like, secretly like behind closed doors last week before the season ended at Utah State and that was kind of the story was like he was coaching knowing he was leaving or something that nobody heard that the whole thing yeah there was controversy that he was already a foot out the door which because they like turned down like interviews other people and and he turned down other interviews and stuff like that he's got ties Cincinnati from hugging stays right or whatever like this is this is his thing um i think that's a home run i like that's a great hire yeah he you talk about the age he's 44 he's worked his way up and like he we we weirdly seems like he fits.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Like Cincinnati's not going to have a bunch of the five-star guys. They're going to get a couple. You know, like he's going to be all right. I think that's going to be a really good. I think that's like a scary. And like I mentioned my own age. It is called Matthew Delvedova,
Starting point is 00:25:54 a kid. I think of Cincinnati as being a good basketball program, like back in the day, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a good basketball program. Yeah, yeah. Back when the big east was the king of hoops,
Starting point is 00:26:04 they were right there in the thick of all of it. You have for, for the move for a move like this for me for Cincinnati, you've got to commit to basketball and just give football a chance to reboot. And some schools, I do. I don't think since in a big 12th, in this era, they're a basketball school.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah, I don't see them really. If, like, Baylor and Cincinnati sell out for basketball and have $19 million $9.0.9.0. NIL budgets with great head coaches. Now, now you're cooking. Just kind of put that money to basketball and forget about football for a little bit. Cincinnati just had its best roster of the last, probably since they had Dana. And they went seven and five, seven and six. Yeah, not being able to hold on the shores, but he definitely does not send the greatest of messages.
Starting point is 00:26:47 No, I mean, them being able to compete in football is going to be brutally tough. Okay, so if we know that football's ceiling is maybe seven or eight wins, let's just go win a national championship in basketball. I'd be cool with that. Doesn't it kind of feel like that football is still the front porch and they're in the Big 12? They're in the Big 12 because of their Desmond and Ritter success with Luke Fickle? Like without those successful football seasons, they're not in this conference. So I just don't think they can abandon it. Well, Scott Frost, Rich Rod, and Fickle all in the Big 12.
Starting point is 00:27:21 That's going to be great. Back with their old schools. It's going to be great. It's going to get Tom Herman back to Houston. No. So, but in basketballs conference, you've got, obviously I'm going to say Kelvin, but you've got Bill Self has won titles unless he retires in the next few days, which I guess by the time it's airs, he might.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Who knows? Scott Drew a Baylor has won a title. for whatever you think about him now. He did win a title there. You got McCasselette Tech is really, really good. Yep. You've got on his way up still. Outsberg.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You've got Tommy Lloyd. He needs to be clear up the list. Jamie Dixon, I think, does a lot with a little. I thought Dawkins did a lot with a little this year. I'm not as high on Kevin Young as other people are, but some people like him a lot. He's number one system, but yeah, I mean, he's. Ross Hodge, obviously still has a lot to prove. It depends on this level, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Jamie Dixon is an incredible college basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball basketball coach and does a ton with very little. TCU doesn't really bind to basketball. Kevin Young does enough with a lot. You know, like he's there for NBA development. I don't know. Like, and to me, NBA development coaches don't usually win national championships.
Starting point is 00:28:23 College basketball coaches, like a Patino who try, you know, dabbled for a second. I was like, oh, no, I'm a college guy. I think those, the guys who are, who are, who you want at the helm of your program, a la Jamey Dixon. I like, I like Cody's guy Lutz. He's, he's new still, but I like him a lot. I agree. I think we just made three good hires, even if Phil's guy is not going to be here for very long.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like this, it's incredible. What Ross is doing recruiting right now too. Yeah. Yeah, we talk about the, what West region is making way. I still want to see how to do it at this level, but he's done it at previous levels, right? Like Utah and Colorado exist. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah. We're there. It's good. It's great education. Is how long is Jensen going to get to Utah? I guess the Utah gig is going to, and he just got there a year, but I mean, he's only been there a year. It's probably. I'm sorry, fellas, but anybody willing to take that K-State job, I would be, I would be wary.
Starting point is 00:29:17 If you say anything, anything negative about your university or your players, you might be fired. Why would you take that job? That's a good point. Well, that's time. I mean, I have dessert on the table as we speak. And you probably do whoever you are. Is it Frosties, Frosties, or is it Mountain Dew Zero? We dropped a lot of brands this episode for not.
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