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Episode Date: June 19, 2025

NBA mock draft madness! Who's the top pick and where will they land? Nick Angstadt and the Locked On NBA Squad dive into a thrilling mock draft, exploring potential picks and blockbuster trades. From the 76ers eyeing Ace Bailey to the Heat chasing Kevin Durant, every move is dissected. The hosts debate Bradley Beal's impact on the Phoenix Suns and analyze the Magic's bold trade for Desmond Bane. Will these roster shakeups redefine the NBA landscape? Tune in for heated debates on draft strategies, star player valuations, and the art of NBA team building. You won't want to miss the hosts' surprising takes on which moves could make or break a franchise's future. 0:00 Intro: Mock draft surprises and big trades 5:13 Where does the actual draft start? 13:16 Kevin Durant trade in mock draft 18:40 Analyzing the Nets' mock draft moves 27:21 Teams discuss their draft legacies 34:11 Breaking down specific mock draft picks 40:43 Evaluating the Desmond Bane trade to Orlando 47:22 Debating the Bradley Beal trade to Phoenix 54:37 Paolo Banchero's potential as Magic cornerstone Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's Lockdown NBA Squad Show, we're looking at the mock draft we did. A couple surprises, a couple of big trades, Kevin Durant, A's Bailey going three. Is that what's going to actually happen? We'll talk about all that and more Lockdown NBA Squad Show starts now. You are talking ball with the NBA squad show, sponsored by game time. From the Warriors to the Lakers, the Knicks to the Heat, and everyone else in the week. The local experts of the Lockdowns podcast network bring you all the scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive look cross the league.

Trash talk and big takes included. No holding back, we're giving the green light. It's time to talk NBA squad show. And welcome. You were Lockdown NBA Squad Show, the mock draft special. My name is Nick Engstead, host of the Lockedon NBA show and Lockdown Mavericks. This is the squad show. We take over the feet of your favorite show.

It's an open invite for any host to join to talk about anything they want. As long as it's about the NBA mock draft, maybe some things that actually happen in the NBA and so on. I'm joined by a glut of an NBA host. Incredible group here. Cougar Hill, locked on Pistons, Benjamin Garcia, locked on Sons, Ben Strober, locked on Wizards,

Mark Farsetta, locked on Sixers, Walker Mill, locked on Hornets, Eric Slater, locked on Nets, who is standing in for the GMs that actually made all the picks and all the trades that the Nets made. Philip Rossman-Reg, locked on Magic, and Pat the designer,

locked on Bulls. Gentlemen, we had the mock draft. If you guys haven't listened to the specials we did, myself and Raphael and West Goldberg went through all of it. We all made our picks. Each of the lockdown hosts made their picks for their team. And so we went through, did the entire first round. We had several trades.

We had four trades. We had five. One of them got rescinded because of reasons that I will not mention Zion. And then we'll go through some of the trades that happened. We'll go through everything that happened in our mock draft. But I want to start here. Where does the draft start? Where is the actual draft start?

Because I represent the Dallas Mavericks. We picked Cooper Flag. That was pretty easy. We made one call to the Spurs. And that didn't go very far. And then Spurs picked Dylan Harper. I don't think the Spurs made any calls to any other GMs. And then the Philadelphia 76ers picked Ace Bailey,

which Mark seems like a super easy pick at the time. But now, at least in the real world, it doesn't seem like that may be as clean of a fit or as quick of a pick for the Sixers in real life. Yeah, I'm sorry, Nick. Is that you? I can't see you through all the smoke screens that are out there from the 76ers. Look, this is very simple.

Darryl Morey has done one thing very well as the 76th was general manager, president of basketball operations. He's picked well. He's drafted well. You look at Jared McCain. I know it was a small sample size, 23 games, but rookie of the year. Tyrese maxi out of nowhere starts becoming an all-star caliber player and a one-time all-star already in the NBA.

This is something that Darryl Morey does very, very well. Do not overthink this. Ace Bailey is a very rare combination of the best player that will be available to draft with the best NBA career in front of them, the highest ceiling and someone that could come in and fit in your starting five right now in Philadelphia. Love the length, love the ability to create his own shot, love the ability that he can be selfless with the basketball at times. This is a very simple thing. And as he grows more and more into his body and becomes a man, he'll go into this game and go into the 76ers starting five as a player

that can actually create that shot next to Tyrese Maxie and help the Sixers win for years to come. I think I think the reason why we all see the draft starting with the Sixers. is because the Sixers, in this topsy-turvy NBA draft lottery we got, the Sixers are probably the first team in the draft order that thinks they're going to be winning next season. And they should. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How about winning right now? Defense wins championships, Philip Ross and Wright.

That's true. That's true. Good knees win championships. And the spurs are very, but like the first. What I mean by this, what I mean like this, they're the first team that actually has a choice because the Mavericks are. taking Cooper flag. He's the best player. Dylan Harper is the next best player. There's no choices there.

With Philadelphia, they got to ask themselves, which player helps us win immediately? And look, Dylan Harper, I think, is the long-term play. Is that the question they have to answer who helps us right now? I think so. Until you are completely given up on Joel and Bede, Joe and Bede, when he's healthy, is an MVP-calibre player. Like, we can't forget that.

Now, if he's healthy is carrying a lot of ways, That's like part of his last name now. It's, if he's healthy, it probably has bad knees from carrying the weight of that sentence. But to me, to me, Ace Bailey doesn't help you win immediately. He's going to be the low efficiency kind of like the Michael Porter Jr. type guy that wants to be the star, but can't quite figure out his role on a more established team. If I'm Philadelphia and I think I'm winning next year, I do think Vijay Edgecombe is the better player. He slots in better as a defender.

he compliments players that you already have. Until Philadelphia trades Paul George, Ace Bailey almost feels like some duplicating what you have in Paul George. And so that's why I think Philadelphia really does have a major choice to make here in this draft. Well, and let me, I'm going to break some news from the 76ers camp right here. Joel and Bede's cooked. The MVP stuff is done.

It's over. The beautiful thought of thinking the Sixers could still do it. Even Philadelphia, the most hardcore Sixers fans go, it's over. It undersold itself, unfortunately. So they are looking to move in a direction where if you have a guy like Ace Bailey, he's good enough to be in that starting five. He's not going to step into the NBA and be as good as Vijay Hedgegole,

but it'll be good enough to be in that starting five. If the greatest, if in sports happens, which is Joelle and Bade plays well, which nobody's expecting. And even if he does, he's not going to play 55, 60 games tops this year. So it's all about right now building for the future. And Bailey is the guy you could do that. to help you now if you fish a wish and you actually have some healthy guys. No one's betting on it, but more so the guy to build down the line with Maxie and McCain.

Well, and Mark, you mentioned all the smoke screens coming from Darry. I mean, I certainly hope so as a Hornets fan because I want BJ Edgecombe there at number four. So I hope the favorite on Fandul being VJ going to three, VJ being the favorite to go at four to Charlotte as well. Like I would love Vijay Edgecombe here at Charlotte because look, I, get scared money don't make none i'm scared of ace bailey man i'd rather just take the the short thing with vj who slots in perfectly with charlotte so i do think philly we got to figure out is it the smoke screen are they telling the truth with vjicom and the meetings and the flying in tyrese maxi how real is all

of it it seems pretty real if they're asking tyrice maxi to fly in i do want to spend this though just a little bit so i agree that dylan harper is in a tier by himself in the second tier of this draft if cooper is number one. Dylan Harper is in a tier by himself. And then you have all the shooting guards and whatnot in tier number three, whatever it is. Man, like, I still think the draft starts at number two with San Antonio at least a little bit. Like, I'm not so 100% sure that I'm not tuning into the draft until we get to the third pick. Like, I'm tuning in for that second one. I know Cooper Flagg, all the fanfare, like he's going to be first, but I'm still tuning in to see what San Antonio does. There's still a lot of options there. Okay, you're

telling me that they are so sure about Dylan Harper, Stefan Castle, and Deeran Fox to pair with Wembe that it's just like, nah, all good. We're just going to take them and we don't need to trade back a couple spots just to collect more assets, especially if you're looking at KD, right? Maybe, okay, you trade back a few spots, whatever. I don't know. Maybe Charlotte would trade up to go get Dylan Harper at number two. And then you wouldn't have to slide back all that far. Now you take somebody that fits a little better with the backcourt that you already have. And then the Kevin Durant stuff is still here. I think that's very interesting.

So, yeah, man, San Antonio, I'm going to be tuning in for what the Spurs do at two, whether it's a tradeback or whether they shock everybody and take somebody. It's just not Dylan Harper. Anyone see the ESPN mock draft today? Yeah, the Wizards are getting Ace Bailey at six, apparently, according to ESPN's mock draft today. and I just see that and I go, come on. Like, we know that this isn't happening.

The Wizards are not getting Ace Bailey at 6. Now, with that being said, I don't think it's impossible that while rating up at this point, I think because the Wizards, where they are as a franchise right now, they are not in need of a player that is going to help them win games right now. In fact, the Wizards need to lose even more next year because if they don't have a top eight pick next year, that pick goes to the New York Knicks. I know there's going to be some movement that comes with that also, depending on a pick swap with the Phoenix Sun.

depending on how bad they are and what happens with Phoenix. Sorry, Ben. But if you're the Wizards right here, a guy like Ace Bailey actually would be really intriguing for the Wizards, because I think he's a guy that's going to need to develop a little bit. And as Mark touched on, become a man in the NBA. And I think with the Wizards timeline being at least two years away from even really being ready to be a relevant team again, probably, I think that timeline actually works

out a little bit better for Ace Bailey. But he's not going to be there at six. So just seeing that, Sam, like, come on. Yeah. I just want to say those picks will also never be exercised. The Wizards getting the Sun's picks, those pick swaps. This was just to make Wizards fans feel better. I'm going to go ahead and bet in the last 50 years of data

that the Suns will at least be better than the Wizards. So I wouldn't worry about getting our picks later on. I think that was just to make you guys feel a little bit better about taking Bradley Biel from you, which you're welcome, by the way. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much. If the Suns somehow, you know, bottom of the United States, out and won the lottery, the NBA will realize that means the Wizards will take that pick

and the pick swap. So they'll make sure that that doesn't happen. I think we got tough about the A's Bailey situation either way is that there's, it's actually a tough enough and a deep enough draft that you can have the conversation on him falling. Now, I think he would have to be a complete, you know what, for him to fall. Like the attitude would have to be absolutely insane. But, I mean, we are hearing that he's basically not working out for anybody. he's kind of taking the Dion Sanders approach of like, yeah, you're going to draft me or you're not and I don't care. I'm going to be talented, which is actually true.

But it is going to be one of those interesting drafts where like there is talent there. You can go VJ Edgecom. You do have options one through six of options that you can go after and actually take players at where maybe if the attitude is bad enough, teams are going to look at it and say, yeah, I just don't want you in my locker room to have to deal with. Are we sure he's the height he says he is? like, I know he measured at the combine, but I'm, I still can't get over that he was listed at 610 and measured it at like 6.7. Can we stop doing the the no shoes measurement, please? No, it has to be even across. It has to be even.

His scientific. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. When's the last time you were on a basketball court and you saw somebody playing barefoot? Listen, a scout told me this story. I can guarantee you this. If Ace Bailey's on the court and he's wearing shoes that make him in that day, he's 16 that day. Yeah, but he's on the court and he's wearing a lot of. some loaves. He might be six nine. Like Jace Richardson would have came into the combine in platform

shoes. Like I'm going back to the VC shocks. If I'm getting back to the VC shocks. If I'm getting going to pop them up and make him a little, uh, Scott told me one time that he had a, a, a player going to the combine. And he had like these certain socks on. And you got to do it without socks, like, because you have to do no shoes, no socks. And the player was like, no, I got to keep my socks on. And he was like, no, you got to take him off. And he took him off. And he took him off. And he went down like a half an inch. His socks had like supports in it that made him a little taller. That matters to go.

Dave, I got to get those stocks. Holy cow. I got to get the socks. Sound comfortable. Do the socks get them closer to the room? Gets them closer to God. That's for sure.

Wear the size. Coming up. The real Kevin Durant may not have been traded yet, but we traded the fake one in our mock draft. Where did he go? And for what? And the team that traded for him said they got fleeced. We'll talk about that and more coming up.

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are you just like setting that pick in and take him to the bank and like running for the hills for like a victory lap or, you know, is there some serious deliberation? Because I think a lot of NBA, you know, front offices aren't so short. Yeah, that's an interesting point because I think the consensus, at least from Abdul and I, because we didn't expect a guy like Ace Bailey to be available at six, as if Trey Johnson is there at six, then I think that'd be a pretty easy safe pick there for Washington to do at that point, a guy that would stretch a floor and give some depth as a shooter that Washington doesn't have at all. Jordan Poole's the best three-point shooter, and he's pretty much the only three-point shooter on the Wizards. If he's still there after draft night, we've talked about

that so much the past couple days. And I guess now with the magic are out of the picture. for a trade for that. It's going to be interesting to see what happens around draft night. We've seen the reports, though, that people are saying Brooklyn is interested in fears, and that would leave some opportunity for the Wizards to try to trade back if Brooklyn wanted Jeremiah fears that bad. My co-host, Abdullah, he hates Jeremiah Fears. Like, he is a... ...fears person there is. He has gone on multiple rants in a couple different episodes about how badly he doesn't want Jeremiah fears.

So if Will Dawkins has the same mindset, him then maybe they were going to see a trade back at that point. But it's an interesting point you bring up. I will say this real quick about the 76ers at three. And if any of this is true about Ace Bailey falling and six, seven, eight, whatever he might be, the Sixers will be interested in trading back. If they are, no pun intended, locked on to Ace Bailey. And they feel like he could be like that.

Brandon, they have the new. They really are in that area of, we got to get them no matter what, but they have the opportunity to trade back. They'll do it. The Sixers, unfortunately, through moves they've made are depleted when it comes to draft picks in the near future. They got two down the line coming from the Clippers and the James Hardin deal, but that's 27, I believe, in 2028. So they can maybe get another first rounder in this draft and they can maybe, that's where the Nets might come in, or they can possibly move to next year and get a draft pick then.

They'll be all ears to the possibility of moving down in the draft if they still think they can get Ace Bailey. Every single draft cup, like trade conversation for this summer includes, the Nets cap space in it in some way. The Nets cap space is like the most valuable asset in the NBA right now. It feels like. Yeah, just just came off the episode talking about the Nets cap space and the KD trades. And we got infinite, infinite content possibilities with the Nets cap space. So it's, uh, it's been nice from that perspective.

Can I interest you in a Bradley Beal? I don't know. I don't know. Anything like anything. We got a couple of Bradley Beal. Short of like, A couple of second round picks. A couple of second round picks.

Maybe if you get the number, if you get the number two pick from the spurs somehow, maybe that would be a conversation. Every team needs to be part of this Phoenix, Washington, now Memphis, now second Memphis and Charlotte pick swap. That's been the main of my existence until the magic traded it on Sunday. Speaking of Kevin Durant, we mentioned before, Kevin Durant got traded in our mock draft. This is before a lot of the rumors. We knew Kevin Durant was going to get traded, but got traded to the money.

Miami Heat. And apparently Kevin Durant had Miami Heat listed on his list of teams that he would want to go. Wes, the trade was Durant to Miami. And that's all you get. You do with it. The sons get Andrew Wiggins, Duncan Robinson

and his podcast. Kelle Ware, 2030 Miami first round pick and then a swap in 2029. Why Miami? Why Kevin Durant? Why now? You're asking why I, well, because I host the Lockdown Heat show. That's why I traded for Kevin Durant. But it's good stuff.

We can't do it. Reason for trade content. That can't be the reason. That sounds good enough to me. You think Pat Riley would do that? Like, you know what, guys, we just, we were just sick of these guys talking about our team. Yes. No, I think a little bit.

There's some part of this where they have a star-shaped hole since the Jimmy Butler trade on the roster and they need somebody there. And they do need a head of the snake. I think Kevin Durant makes a lot more sense than I think people are giving them credit for. He just need a number one scoring option. Durant is still that. whatever you think of Durant at this stage of his career, still one of the best 10 scores in the NBA, no question about it.

And if you put him on the roster, then Tyler Hero doesn't have to be the number one score. What does he look like in more of a tertiary role? Bamadabio doesn't have to be a number one score. What does he look like in more of a supporting role? I'm not sitting here telling you that Kevin Durant makes the heat a contender, which is sort of the pushback I get all the time

when I'm like, the heat should trade for Kevin Durant. The heat don't look at it that way. They don't look at, does this trade make us the favorites in the Eastern Conference? They look at every trade in terms of, does this give us a better chance in the Eastern Conference? Because we know what we can do if we just have a chance. We feel pretty good about it. I actually feel like I got fleeced in this deal a little bit in the reporting that came out.

Including Kalelewell Ware in this trade a little bit was, I don't know. I don't think that that's going to happen at this point, even though I made another trade during the mock draft to show up the center spot. But yeah, I think this would be a steal for the Sons based on some of the reporting. that's out there right now. I mean, I think it's leverage season. I don't, I would lean towards, I don't think anyone knows what's happening in the Kevin Durant front.

I don't even think Kevin Durant knows what's happening in that front, but when you talk about this deal, it's true, but for, well, like, I don't even care about getting Wiggins. I don't, like, sometimes that's a little bit of the hold of. It's like, oh, bring Wiggins here, bring Ware here, two guys can kind of defend pretty well, make them longer, it'll be good for the Sons.

The whole piece of this, like keep the pick swap too. It's about, get a first, back and get Kalelewair back and be able to talk about you having a young duo of Ryan Dunn and uh, uh, uh, Kelle Ware and potentially be able to sell that to your fan base for the next coming years and potentially, and potentially be, and potentially be a team that you can actually be competitive next year. Like Nick, not everybody can have the lottery. Yeah. I, listen. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that we didn't fall. I thought my future was going to look like a little bit there. I'm sorry we didn't fall ass backwards into the number one overall.

Some of us have to actually work for things for a living. But they worked the league office. They went to the league office that, hey, you guys are having a ratings problem. We'll send us international superstar to the Lakers and you give us the number of pick. Yeah, ridiculous. But no, I think Clal Ware ultimately is the key piece of this. Like, if the Sons get back, I do think the Sons, if they get back, Clalware, they need to get a first round pick back for him. But if you said Terry Rozier, Duncan Robinson, they're going to decline his, I think it's a non-guaranteed deal in like 50%

percent of it's guaranteed. Yeah. The sons are going to do that to get out of the second apron. Yeah. It's all about money. It's simple dollars and cents. Duncan Robinson is a key part of a Kevin Durant trade to Miami. He almost,

yeah. And it's weird. I feel like that gets so overlooked in this. It's the, not the number one thing Miami has in a potential Kevin Durant trade, but it is a thing that the other teams like Houston, San Antonio. They don't have that piece where it's like, here's $10 million dollars of savings before we even get to the tax

multipliers of this and you being able to duck the second apron. And like we don't we don't you and me, Ben, we don't need Brooklyn. We're the one team that doesn't need Brooklyn here. We'll just give you Duncan Robinson. You've got an immediate route to cap savings. And that's the part that I think keeps getting overlooked here. Yeah, well, it's constantly people are like, oh, the Rockets make a ton of sense. I mean, yeah, logistically they do.

You add Kevin Durant to that team. You take off what, Jabari and I don't care. Some other player, sure, they're immediately a better team. But the issue is they don't, they have like guys that make a decent amount of money. And then they have guys that make no money. And so if you're the Rockets, if you're a team that's, going to give up Dylan Brooks and Tyree Eason and Jabari Smith, just to make a trade work,

you're giving up far too much to get Kevin Durant there because the cap savings just aren't there. So the Miami Heat make a lot of sense. The Spurs did as well if they'd quit being cheap asses and give the sons legitimately anything back. Instead of, I mean, when Jeremy Sohan becomes unavailable, the Spurs are the only team of the NBA, who are the 12-seed that have 15 players that are untouchable.

That's like when Taylor and Tucker was untouchable. It's actually ridiculous. So I agree with Westier. If anybody wants him, he's very touchable. He's touchable now. He's touchable now. What is the, what's the, when you talk about Duncan Robinson in the route to cap savings for the suns, what were you referring to there? Duncan Robinson's contract is worth $20 million, but 50% of it is guaranteed between now and the end of the month.

So if Miami and Phoenix pull off a Durant trade by the end of the month, Phoenix could just waive Duncan Robinson. They'd eat $10 million, but they would be saved. saving $10 million and that's enough to get them under the second apron. We're already eating like $40 million in terms of coaches. So why not just add it to the tax bill at this point? But Duncan Robin, you could probably, it's so much money that you could probably just write Duncan Robinson in and still make that part of the finances. We're thinking, we're thinking about doing that with Bradley Beale too.

Listen, man, I'm going to keep advertising him on the show the entire time. If anyone wants him, I will personally drive him over to your house. Bradley Beale? Yeah. He's the one that jumped on the table for the Wizards? That's former All-MBA, Bradley Beale. Former 30-point-through game, Bradley Beale. That's former second round in the Eastern Conference.

Wizards fans are still obsessed with him, by the way. I actually have him. I got attacked. I got attacked for saying that Jordan Poole's situation is nowhere near the same as Bradley Beals. And everyone's like, why are you trying to tarnish Beal's legacy here? I was like, one, did I ever say Jordan Poole has a better legacy. as a Washington wizard. Do you not forget how much Bradley Beal whined when he signed that contra,

how he wasn't having fun and how he was tired of losing? I was like, dude, they can't get anyone else because you signed the contract. Anybody else just appreciate their own fan base a little bit more after that? Hey, can I also just say this as well? It will be a, it will kind of suck to lose Kevin Durant because it felt like at the end of the day that it just like, it just kind of blew up in our faces and it didn't work out. The swing was worth it, but whatever. Whatever team base gets it.

The spurs, the rockets, the heat, have fun with the Kevin Durant stands. Just have fun. It is fair warning now. If you don't call him anything but God's gift to this earth, you are going to be ostracized. And you know what? Kevin Durant might come at you as well. That comes from Clown Garcia himself. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that would be, listen, he's like, I don't know if any guys are, I say his name he appears. That's Kevin Durant at this point. So Andrew. I was trying to think about his name. I was trying to think about his name. Yeah, no. Listen, it's not Jeff Hardy, so I just forgot about it.

But Joe Henry, that would be the guy. I'm still confused on Bradley Beal Legacy. Is that a thing in Washington? We said like that like there was more than one playoff appearance that they lost. They had a nice duo with John Wall. They made the playoffs three times or four times technically. I guess he made the playoffs with Russell. Westbrook in 2021, which seems like the weirdest year of all time because Russell Westbrook was

actually insane the final stretch of that season. And I feel like everyone kind of forgets about that. But no, Beal's legacy for me is a guy that was not clutch. Set the franchise back for five years. So that's his legacy to me. He's doubled down to the Tarnet. I'm just trying to figure out Bradley Beale. Walker, Walker, does that count as a legacy? Oh, the Beal. Well, look, as somebody, that was advocating to trading for Beal in 2018 to pair with Kimba Walker. Like, you know, that, that's how I remember my Bradley Beal. That's my Bradley Beal. That's my Bradley Beal. Greater legacy.

Kemba Walker or Bradley Beal? You know, I'll fight for Kimba. Kimba. You know, Mitch Cupcheck dropped Kimba. Like, he didn't sign Bradley, Bradley, or Kimba didn't want to stay here in Charlotte. Mitch Cupchek didn't want Kimba to stay in Charlotte. So cleaner breakup, I guess, depending on how you look at it. But no, man, I'm not interested in this Bradley Beal and all of the legacy that he left behind in Washington. I'll just stick with, you know, Lamello Ball's $40 million of your conscience. I'd rather have a Gerald Wallace legacy on my team. You're damn right. The guy that kept a light on in Charlotte, damn right.

The Wizards have nobody with legacy other than 1978. Oh, Wes Unselled. Come on. Yeah, Wes Unselled. And then his son becomes the coach and then he gets run out of town. Best Unsolved and Bob Dandridge in this household, guys. Coming up, we find a way to still talk more about Bradley Beal, and each of the teams goes through what picks they made, which ones they liked, which ones they didn't,

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Are we seen as a clown show? Like to everyone else? I am a bull's face. It's not that bad. You had Michael Jordan. You won six straight championships. I don't want to hear your yapping. We haven't won anything.

75 years. Hold on. I need everybody to stop. I need everybody. Walker is also in the room. I need here comes the oppression. I need everybody to stop. Everyone.

I'm sorry that the sun's made it to the finals four years ago. I'm sorry that the sun's made it to the finals four years ago. I'm sorry that. The Bulls have six championships. I'm sorry. I really am. You know, those zero conference finals appearances, it's nice to fall back on that,

but I just need everybody to bring a tinge of self-awareness here when the hornets are in the room. Walker. Just a tip. I think you win if your team leaves. Yeah. Yeah, no, the good team left. The good team left. I was going to say, they kind of did.

Yeah. Yeah. Your franchise has the best starter jacket in NBA history. That is a legacy that cannot be replaced. We have Hugo the Hornet. We have Purple and Teal. And they left us. You know, so then we got this weird other logo.

It's fine. Great. Grandma Ma. Grandma Ma. So. Pelican's legacy now. Pudsey Bogus was in space jam. Several people in here were not born on that happens.

You have a lot. You have the best play-by-play commentator in the NBA. You have their call. Shower. Yes. please tell me about all the good things. Now it's better. You're right.

I feel bad for Bulls fans now because we have Eric Collins. You got the best ball brother. I'm a lot of a mean. I do. And we had Leangelo. Every sport well. We had Leangelo too. So he has a rap song.

I want to talk about the Nets because He's a rap song. And Master P. Did everybody forget? All right, I'm done. I'm sorry, Nick. Take me. Please.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, ice cream man, ever heard of it? I still can't get over to call it the oppression. Pretty good. It happens every year around this time.

We start getting engaged and who has it worse. And then you lose because I'm a part of it. And then you guys lose. Yeah. And if Matt George from Locked on Kings is on here, he would run circles around everybody. You would just. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. Missing a conference finals. I never making a conference finals. Look, man, I can go turn the light off and get the hoodie out the closet and bring Darth Koo back. How many, 28 games in a row was it last? Yeah, 28, 20, 28. At some point, losing just becomes kind of funny, right?

You lose 28 in a row. No, I don't. We're a world story. No, it don't. Ben, for however bad you think it is now, it can't get much worse. That Ryan Dunn-Colette where team would kick you in the butt. Like that would be a team to come in. I had a, I watched the Bulls team and called 82 games where campaign was the starting point.

Ooh, the tank commander. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. No, we were trying to win. It was no tanker. We were doing our best to win game. Chris Doug. Okay, we're going to talk about the Nets because this is a hilarious situation to me as the one that was running this mug draft.

So we had Adam Armbract and Doug Norey. We're running locked on Nets. And in between the time when they left the show and Eric joined, Doug made all these trades and Adam made all these trades. They got six first round picks in this. Eric, you had to answer for all of those first round picks and those trades. This is the time to do it. Did you like any of them? I hate any of them.

No, I asked Doug and Adam, what was going on? What was the rationale behind that? And I think they blamed whoever was at the spot. Whoever made offered them one of the trades, they blame. They're like, well, they came and offered me this trade. And I couldn't say no. So they kind of deflected some of the blame there. But yeah, no, I don't see.

the Nets making six first round picks, but maybe there could be like a process where they follow some of what Doug and Adam did, but then they do consolidate some of the, you know, 19, 26, 27 and try to move around with that. So answering for that was fun. I did like the picks that they made. So that made it, um, a little bit easier. But yeah, six first round picks. Um, and then also they have 36.

So maybe we bring up to seven players. We could just roster an entire team of full rookies. Um, but yeah, yeah, no, I, I don't envision that. But I did like some of the thought process. It seems like some Nets fans, there were some positive feedback to the picks that Doug and Adam made. So they were fired up about it. By the way, I do want to chime in on this. We had a full deal in place that just never happened.

What was it? It was going to be the Nets 2025, 26th overall pick for the Portland Bulls pick, the Bulls pick from Portland, Bulls, 2027 first and 2028 and 2030 second round pick. And it just never happened. I was like, I guess this big doesn't come. So that's fine. I love us trading future first round bigs, especially like next year because it'll just reset to the,

we're not going to remember. We've been doing this mock draft since 2017. I have the, I have the results from 2017 back then. It doesn't matter. I do like the idea of just a squad of rookies, just five starting rookies and just have them compete for the rookie. Max.

We asked to answer that age-old question if Kentucky could beat an NBA team. Well, this one would be France. They got three French friends. And France beat an NBA team. They picked Noah Asenge. They picked Igor Demon or Yeager Devin. That one doesn't really count. Who else?

He picked Nolan Traori, Maxine Rayneau, and then just misspicking Noah Penda, but picked Hugo Gonzalez and Thomas Sorber. Those are the Nets picks. Yeah, good picks. I mean, a lot of intriguing guys there. I just think it might be difficult trying to bring along, you know, six first round picks in terms of the development. And then who knows what they do with the second round pick.

But I think Adam was just trying to go out with the bang. I think he was like, I'm going to get my money's worth with this mock draft. And I, you know, this is my last one. I'm going to make as many picks as possible. So I'm going to try to fit four or five years worth of mock drafts into this one. So I think that was the thought process there. I think the trade that got dropped into his lap was the, heat one, Wes. I think it was the Nets get number 20.

I think it was. Yeah. Terry Rozier, Jaime Hawkes, and part of the 2027 second round pick swap, whatever that ends up being. And then Miami gets 26, Nick Claxton and Keon Johnson. Why'd you want to do that one? Because I traded Colella Ware to Phoenix, so I needed a new starting center. So I went out and got Nick Claxton and got off the Terry Rozier contract, which was pretty nice. So Miami's starting five after this mock draft. Davion Mitchell, resigning him, Tyler Hero, Kevin Durant, Bam, Atabio, Nick Claxon. I don't hate it. Damn, it's actually pretty good team. On that note, you know what I love about all of these trades like that are the mock trades or the fake trades that will never happen in the NBA? We're watching four first round picks get swapped around in real life trades in the Lee five first round picks, right? Get swapped around for real life trades in the NBA. Rudy Gobert went for like a million picks.

Kevin Durant's still paying off that deal. Like, they're a real NBA GMs. like us in this in this chat right now i always i always tell people this like the if if the obvious trades that we all thought would happen they'd all happen the obvious never happens like i was like i'm i'm going to talk about and free simons and in this mock draft that traded for anfrey simons because it was the obvious thing to do and i was just like look there's there's got to be something that we don't know is even possible that's going to happen and that obviously happens sunday afternoon or Sunday morning with Orlando and Memphis.

Can I ask, can I ask Eric? What did you think about that deal? Taking that one year for Rosier, get off the Claxton contract, move up six spots in the draft. Honestly, there's been so many deals. Like,

you guys ever see that jiff of like Allen from the hangover with like all the equation like flying up? Like I'm trying to follow it all. You know, Adam was wheeling a deal and saying it, say one more time, what was the deal? So is,

uh, uh, Rosier on his, he's got, one year left, so he's expiring for Claxton, who I guess has two or three years left. And then you moved up six spots from 26 to 20 in the draft. I think that's way too little for the Nets to be giving up Claxton. And I mean, you're taking on a salary dump and you're giving up one of your best players and you're only moving up six spots in the draft.

Like I've seen, I mean, I didn't know with NBA trades. I think every fan base, like you'll make trades or multiple fan bases say they're getting screwed on both sides. that's just like how it works. But I think the Nets don't have to trade Claxton right now. Like he has two years left on his deal or three years left on his deal. The final two years are descending and it's going to be, you know, he's going to be making below 11% of the salary cap in the final year of his deal. So I think that he could have some value.

And he's also, he's coming off a down season. So they don't have to trade him. Like I don't know if that deal, I'm not sure about that one, especially given the quantity of picks and that's already have. But I do think there are a lot of framework. works involving the heat, the suns where Claxton could be involved. And I don't think that's something that the nets would shy away from. I just think the price would need to be right.

And moving up six spots in the draft while taking on a salary dump and giving up Claxton, I don't really think the juice is worth to squeeze there for them. I will say, we negotiated it until right at the 20th pick, because I think he was hoping that that Maxime Raynaud guy would fall to 20. And then Rafael loves that guy. Yeah, big fan of him. Yeah, he should go number one. Yeah, I mean, stretch big.

I know, yeah, they were high on him. I think we've wanted to explore floor spacing five for a little bit. So Adam, you know, did what he could to get one there. Anybody hate any of the picks we made in the mock draft? Like, anybody look at one and be like, I just don't get that. I mean, I'm not a Yeager-Demond guy, but that might just be a magic-specific thing just because he can't shoot. Am I allowed to hate my own?

own pick. Yep. The board didn't fall the way I thought I was going to fall. So Drake Powell, the North Carolina guys, I mean, you're just basically trying to get bigger and find someone that could play both sides of the floor because last year you couldn't find anyone. So at 29, where I'm thinking you might be able to get someone that you actually like your, it's a lottery pick like in terms of the worst kind of you're just getting a big guy on both ends of the floor that hopefully can translate because the Sunstein needs a three, they need like five three and deep but they need to start with one and kind of thought even Rayneau might fall to them or I mean maybe a guy like Jace Richardson could fall because he's small again not a 3 and D guy

but at least somewhere where there's a little bit more of a ceiling yeah well that if just so we're clear if the sun's trade for the 10th 14th pick just pen not pencil in sharpie and jace Richardson which I'd be cool with but there's not a lot of high ceiling guys you're you really are taking a lottery ticket and at that point I mean, it kind of sucked because even the kid from, you mentioned him a second ago, he thinks he's a France kid. He can't shoot worth a lick, but I think he's,

Sange. He or a Penn. Penga. Penda. Penda. Him. No, Penda. Even him.

I was like, I was like, that was the guy who I thought could play both sides of the floor pretty well, needs to develop a shop, but kind of somewhere to Ryan Dunn where you kind of see a little bit of that explosiveness that you think it translates to the next level and a big player. And you're like, oh my God, this guy's getting picked. And now I know for sure these freaking nerds in here aren't watching film from France.

So it was just nuts, man. I had to go with a guy who me and Brendan are arguing, like, are we sure this guy even went to UNC? I don't remember seeing him. But yeah, so I definitely didn't love our pick. Hoping the draft board falls differently to the suns because they need help everywhere, man. I was kind of surprised Liam McNeely didn't go in the first round.

Like I know that. Yeah, he got an invite to the green room. Yeah. I know that like Raphael Barlow of Locked on NBA Bigboard, not the biggest fan of his. I'm not a huge fan of his and I'm, you know, I'm jamming for a team that needs shooting. But McNeely at least has the reputation of being a shooter, had that one big game against Creighton, has the injury excuse. It seemed kind of shocking that all of a, that all 30 picks passed on him in this mock draft. Agreed with you.

That's who we were debating on between Drake Powell and Liam McNeely. but I lost that argument to Brendan where he just wanted a guy that was a little bit better defensively. But I like Liam McNeely better because he's better off the dribble, a little bit better for a playmaker. And again, the Sons need someone with a higher ceiling

in terms of just trying to hit double. So I would agree with you. Liam McNeely falling out of the first round was really surprising. Cool. You're just hanging out during this mock draft? Like, he just didn't eat. I'm just here so I don't get fine. I actually have a question.

Fair enough, you want to bring me up. Eric, I got a question. How likely is it that the Nets in real life trade one of 19? team 26 or 27 and can the Pistons have one for free? I'd say it's overwhelmingly likely that they trade at least one. The Pistons cannot have one for free because you guys are now a playoff team, a perennial playoff team and the Nets are still down bad. So no.

But yeah, I think they're definitely a team that needs to consolidate and needs to move up. And I could definitely see them. There's just like, it's honestly tough, you know, gaming out the possible. with the Nets because because of the cab space, because of the KD sweepstakes, because of some other rumors we're hearing, there's just so many possibilities of ways they could move up. They could move up in the top 10. They could move up from 19 into the lottery. They can move up from 26, 27, 36 into like the, you know, low 20s. So there's just so many different ways that they can go about it. But I'm fairly confident they're not going to make four first round picks, let alone six. That's why when I saw six from Doug and Adam, I was I raise an eyebrow for me. But yeah, I think they're definitely going to move off one, if not multiple picks. And there's just so many different machinations of how they can do it. But I'd be pretty confident that they could try to get close to a second lottery pick.

I think that's something that definitely could come to fruition, whether it's, you know, through the KD trade or some other way. I'm just curious, what would you be looking for, Eric, in a KD trade? Because I think it's absurd as well to take four picks in the first round. but how would if you're looking to facilitate that trade like say with the rockets who don't have a lot of money what does that look like for the nets to feel like because i see suns fans put stuff out there like all right well you cam johnson nick claxton and like let's throw him a bone let's throw the nets a first round pick just because they're good guys but like what is the tangible assets the nets would

need i mean it all depends on the team that is getting kd and what do they have to offer because if you look at what the sons have to offer they don't really have jack to offer so that needs to come from them getting something from the other team and then that being rerouted to the for taking on a salary dump, whether that player is from the team trading KD or whether it's from the Sons. I've literally spent the last couple of days just trying to come up with some potential hypothetical trades, three-way deals with this. And if you're looking at from the Sons perspective, like the salary dump guys, it's probably Grayson Allen is the guy you're probably looking at, maybe Royce O'Neill, like those are the guys. So there's a lot of versions of the deals.

Like, for example, if the spurs are in the deal and you end up getting 14 from the spurs, maybe the Nets take on Grayson Allen and give, you know, the sons 26 or 27 and they move up to 14. So, you know, in return for taking on Grayson Allen and the three years left on his contract, the Nets move from, you know, the late 20s to 14. And the, you know, the sons get whatever else is there. But it's ultimately going to depend on how much the sons are, you know, able to get for grant because the more they get for Durant, the more assets they have to, you know, potentially attach to a salary dump and give it while, you know, having stuff left over for themselves.

So I think that that's the way that I see it playing out. I also think there's a lot of frameworks where, you know, the Sons want to center. Claxton maybe goes. But if you give Claxon to, you know, the Sons, they're going to have to give up a larger chunk of what they're getting in the package for KED going back to the net. So there's a lot of different ways that I could work out. but I think that the one thing that's certain is the sons are going to try to get below the second apron.

And I think that the Nets present a pretty clear pathway for them to do that, but it's going to come in a price. So what that is is going to be the question. All right. Let's go ahead and send this guy, Andrew Wiggins, and we'll call it a day. The trade that the Nets made in this mock draft

to get the extra, the two extra first, basically, was Cam Johnson to the Thunder. Nets get Aaron Wiggins, Ujman, Jeng, and the OECC's picked. 15 and 24 and then a Milwaukee second in the future and an Atlanta second in the future. Can we all agree that we're not helping the thunder this summer? Like that doesn't know that team needs any more help over the minute. I mean, unless there was an NBA-wide agreement that they would.

I mean, that's a pretty good trade for the Nets. I mean, if you're giving up Cam Johnson, you're getting, you said Wiggins dang and 15 and 24. 15 and 24, yeah, and two seconds. I mean, to run to the bank with that one. I don't think that's a heavy price. It's like, yeah, I mean. Pocket change for the Thunder right now. Yeah.

I mean, well, the Nets have to take the best offer on the table. They can't think about that. Sorry, sorry, Mavericks. You guys got to deal with the Thunder all year. I'll tell you right now, the Sixers already did their workload when it came to helping out the Thunder, or at least not helping out the Thunder, because if they would have finished outside,

the worst six teams in the NBA, their first rounder would have went to the Thunder. The Magic apparently started started helping the Thunder, like back in 2012. when they were 2013, when they traded Victora DiMontasabonis for Sir DeBacca. And then gave them their GM back. Yeah, we tried to hurt him with Gordon Hayward. Like, it's one of the few trades that they lost.

We did our best. Savatash. We spent Valas Caruso, so I don't think it gets any better than that. Yeah. Where do you stand on that trade now? Because I see all the time, people are like, that was the dumbest trade ever for the Bulls. You better not defend this trade. Don't defend it.

I mean, I think here's the thing. It depends on if Giddy can continue to be that dude that he was when Zach Levine left the team. If you end up with a guy who is- Basketball run. You said what? The March pickup basketball run. Yeah, pretty much. Listen, if you go out there next season and Josh Giddy is a 24, 22, 8, and 10 guy,

yeah, the trade looks fine. It looks like both teams won and you got a future point guard that's going to help your team. the likelihood of that happening right now? Like, we'll see. You know what I mean? That depends on, that is what Josh Giddy looks like when he plays overseas. That is what Josh Giddy looks like when he plays in Feeble with Team Australia. Can he be that dude in the NBA?

If he is that dude in the NBA, it's a win-win trade for both sides. But I think it is still out there to be seen if Josh Giddy is the win that the Bulls need in that spot. Realistically speaking, you got rid of a dude who probably wasn't coming back because he wanted to be in the spot he's in right now competing for an NBA championship. for a 22-year-old point guard that showed you promise at the end of the season. Last 25 games, 20 points a game, 9 and a half rebounds, 8 assists,

three turnovers. Not bad. Pretty good. And improved as a defender by like an amount I didn't think he actually could even was capable of. What month did those games come in, Nick? All post-trade deadline. All post-trade deadline.

You have to remember, though, success for Chicago is very different than success for every other team in the league. Yeah. Trust me. Distance fans, we are well versed in the March pickup run fallacy. We've seen Seiku Dumboa go on it.

We've seen, we've seen 20 plus names convince you when they're playing pickup after the trade deadline that they might be something. So just who else got checked by a March, a March breakout? I mean, it happens to so many Chicago Bulls. We missed out on Luca because Bobby Portis went on an incredible run.

We were tanking all the way. Is Christiano Felicio fall under that? Does that why you guys paid him or? No. The Bradley Beal Legacy Wizards tanking the last game of the season against the magic when the wizards were going to the playoffs and actually probably still needed to win that game

cost the magic a tie with Sacramento for number two, if I'm not mistaken. That's okay. Sacramento got a row. Yeah. But I mean. Again, that's why I said Matt would go off on the oppression Olympics we had earlier.

Yeah, but you don't get, no, no, no. You don't get to be, okay, you triggered me. You know, you don't get to be, you don't get to hate that your team like just as bad because you're just stupid. Like trading Tyrese Halliburton for, I think the, I think Mavs fans that were really mad at their team for being stupid for a little while there in the season. And I still are. I never will forgive them. You don't get to say, you don't get to say that your team like is in that purgatory. There's nothing good to look forward to because your team is just dumb.

You trade Tyrese Halliburton, you trade Deeran Fox for nothing because you want to go ahead and get the and get Zach Levine his back-to-back play in games, but in each conference. Like, you don't get to do that. Like the Hornets, again, they're just there because they're incompetent franchise. The sons aren't there because we swung for the fences and it didn't work out. Kevin Durant, Bradley. Isn't that being dumb, though? No, everyone thought Bradley Bill was being dumb. No, stop it.

There was not one question in here. Nobody thought Bradley Bill was a good move. No one thought that was a good move. Nobody here thought Bradley Beale was a good move. Benjamin, you were the other one who thought Bradley Beal was a good move. You guys are all liars. No one thought Langee, Shamit, and Chris Paul, and a bunch of first round pick swaps that were never going to be exercised

because the Widsers are, where's Ben? A freaking thumpster fire always. Where's Ben? They're just there to help. They're just there to help. Bradley Biel took his internet too. Yeah, they're just there because we had to have 30 teams in the NBA, so we had to throw them into the mix.

Like, no, no, the second round pitch. Chris Paul and Andrew Shammett. The only thing it sucks now is that no one realized that Bradley Biel actually sucks. He's a losing basketball player. No, we all realized. That's why we were all saying it wasn't a good move. He was an all-in-game player. Oh, my God.

That was back when his salary was only like 25. Walker brought up 2018. Do you know how old I was in 2018? I did want him. Hey, look, I'm telling you, I wanted Bradley Biel in 2018. I did. That was fine. There is old tape.

Yeah. Yes, you. I wanted Bradley Beal back in 2018. He led the leading scoring. It was either Bradley Beal or the mid-level exception. It was either Bradley Beal or Jordan Fing Pool. I think we picked the better of the two and it ended up not going that way. I don't want a tire of the two.

Jordan is like, Jordan Poo is a good flexibility. Everyone in here. I didn't know what I'm Jordan Poole. I'm the only person on it is here. No one in near. No one in your thought. It's probably true.

Probably true. The Suns swung for the fences and it didn't work out. Well, I think you got to like, did the Suns factor in? Because like when the Suns made the KD trade with the Nets, the new CBA hadn't gotten to effect yet. But then they made the field trade. And it was known what the restrictions of the new CBA were. You're trading for a dude who, you know, makes.

We traded Chris Paul and Landry Shaman. But yeah, I know what I'm saying. You brought in a guy. The names don't even matter. The numbers. Like just the numbers of the contract that you traded for. When everyone saw Booker, Beal, and Durant, everyone was like, you could, you get, the locked on put us in the first-tier pre-season team.

We do those off of the first-year preseason season. We do this off of the annual odds. There was some people who didn't like the deal at the time. Now, now if you want to say we're dumb because we're just the Michigan State sons, like, fine. But the Kevin Durant and Bradley-Beal moves in, when it happened, we're not objectively bad deals. What happened? Hey,

go pull up that locked on an episode that we did. No. Yeah. Were we on game? Were we on Locked on NBA that night? We were locked on NBA. I know. I was like,

this makes no sense whatsoever. Oh my God. We got a lot of guys in here are fans of 38 year old Chris Paul. Who the Wizards didn't even want. They let him go. So, you also has a no trade clause. I couldn't get me with that new trade clause.

Well, that's the episode of Locked on NBA. He just put it over the top for being, listen, that. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. There's an episode of LAT NBA from a year ago, from when the trade happened, me and Howard Beck, and the title is why Bradley Beal to the Phoenix Suns was the wrong move, but right for the wizards. All this is very triggering, though, because like back in 2018, you know how many times we played Beal or No Beal?

Like, we played that constantly. we and I advise that steal that content man like seriously if you can ever get anybody to agree to make the deal you know please this is this is radio podcasting come on everything is no everything is still you can't get a first round pick for free but you can get some content for free that's right that's right it's a hit yeah everybody love i can i can just always say nobiel right and just take what's behind door number two that's what i would do i would say no bill Chris Paul and Larry Shamit behind door number two. This guy couldn't even pronounce Landry Shammit's name correctly. He knows he's so bad. Who cares? All right.

Well, maybe I'm just the idiot. All right. Maybe I'm the one idiot in here. All right. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe I'm so crazy. I have to think outside the box. And, you know, maybe listen, whatever.

Group think wins. Is it fine? Is this what I have to look for when I'm in second apron hell next year? well we're not going to be in second apron hell next year I will be Kevin doing I was to say no how are you getting out how are the magic getting out of that the cap rises by 10% salaries only rise by 8 anybody

I don't know I don't think you realize the divasas are loaded just give oh no I realize that I used to live in Michigan I know them I know them well anybody hate the Desmond Bain or the Desmond Bain move for Orlando I actually like it because I think that Paolo Bancaro is a much better player than people are willing to admit yet for some weird reason. Because when you watch him play basketball, he only facilitates extremely well,

plays at the rim extremely well. Shoes the basketball extremely well. Well, okay, I'll take that part back. That defends well. And just needs a number two to stand next to him. But for some reason, because he only did that in 48 games last year, he wasn't good. Like I think he's one of the best things. players in the NBA. And for some reason, nobody pays attention to it.

You know, we talked a lot about it on the head, 48 games. Well, we talked a lot about it on Locked on Hornets. He played 80 and 82 his first two years. Like it's like, I mean, who knows is the bleak, but. Yeah, we talked a lot about the Bain deal. Like, you know, the Hornets, not necessarily in a go for a win now move, right? But you talk about the teams that trade even a lot, even for first rounders for the dude that's just really good at basketball. basketball and defense at a high level. Those teams that trade for that guy, they've been coming out on the right side of history for the most part. It's nuanced, but it is interesting to see the

overpays, quote unquote, in the trade market. They've been for guys that aren't going to leave the floor that are really good defensively and they can shoot. And so, for instance, you go to McHale Bridges. All right, checks a lot of those boxes off. Still, don't know if I'd call them worth five first rounders, but it helps them get to the Eastern Conference finals, even with some up and down play. Pacers get rid of three first rounders for Pascal, which is probably the closest to equal value. But here they are in the NBA finals. Desmond Bain, they're going after him.

Even Minnesota, getting the multi-time defensive player of the year, what was it, 17 years he won. Yeah, they gave up all of those picks, and they went to back-to-back conference finals appearances. Like maybe trading all of the picks for the dude that's awesome defensively. And in a lot of those scenarios can shoot and isn't going to be liability on one end of the floor or the other, maybe that's worth the three to four first round picks that are being giving up, given up in this scenario. So like honestly, it's easy to

point at the Hornets and say, well, they're not, it's not a win now scenario for them. And I get it. I wouldn't do it. I'd be afraid to pull the trigger on that as well. But even with like the timeline farce that infiltrates this conversation all the time, well, maybe you just trade for Desmond Bain and then you make the pistons jump, not to that level. but some kind of like mini pistons jump where my god hornets are actually somewhat healthy they did get rid of a couple of picks but they got a couple with miami and they got one from dallas and the p j washington trade so you don't get rid of all your picks you still have some you go get an awesome player that's contractually locked up for a while like maybe this is just a smart move rather than us overreacting every time right every single time oh my god four first rounders what are you doing and then it works out for them it's it's clearly a a risk, but maybe just trading for good players that don't leave the floor is a good idea in the NBA. The Mavs fans are all up in arms about how many first round picks they got that the Mavs did not get for Anthony Davis.

In fairness, like some of those first round picks were to take Contavius called Will Pope's contract, to take Colanthony who, you know, can't really play. But even three, right? Like if one is to take on the KCP, like even three for Bain, I guess that would have been the projected value. Even still, good point, though. like it definitely has to do with the KCP contract as well. How long have we been talking about the magic needing a score?

Like a consistent score that someone like get a bucket. Like I lofted. When did Tracy McGready play for the magic, Philo? Yeah. Last year was 2004. Well, you let into my point. Who were you born? Yes.

Oh, who was born? Who were you born? There was this player named Tracy McGrady. We went on these things called message boards and debated whether he was better than COVID. And it was a legitimate debate. God, how old are you? you guys. No, I think, well, like with the, with the magic,

when was the last time they were able to lure a big time free agent? It would be Tracy McGrady. They haven't been able to do that. They lose stars rather than gain stars. And we've been talking about for years. Well, if they just had a consistent score in the playoffs, they played the

world's worst seven game series with the Cavs last year where like the first person to make a left-handed layup wins that series. And if they would have had, if they would have had like, I even lofted this show. I was like early in the season before, you know, it was really a bad idea, was what if they had Bradley Beal, a guy that could potentially just score? Now again, that sounds like just a joke now, especially with the, with Desmond Bain being added to that.

But Franz Wagner and Paolo Banccaro, if they can both be consistent a little bit more offensively and then defensively just hold their own, Franz Vogner probably more than Paulo Ben Carroll, but neither one I would say is an elite defender. You add Desmond Bain to that. I think that that is immediately one of the contenders, and especially in the Eastern Conference, It's why I think the heat are so stupid for not just trading for Kevin Durant because they are in a time right now where who's the best team in the East. Like, do we all still like really think next year the Pacers are just going to run through the East again? No, it's wide open. So I love what the magic did.

Go for it, roll it, roll the dice on the table and see what you can do. And like four first round picks, great. The Grizzlies for the next, whatever, eight years, however those picks lay out, you get to pick late in the 20s. So I love the move from the magic. I think it was great. Sure, a little heavy, but yeah, good move, man. I would be celebrating if I was in Orlando. And I will still send you Bradley Biel if you would like.

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