Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Can Extended Rest and Practice Time Recharge (and even fix) the Lakers?

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Starting point is 00:00:39 to the channel, Andy, are all wondering just what the Lakers are going to do with this unusual moment in the NBA schedule where they have very few games by NBA standards. Two games in 10 days. They play Friday. It's going to say they have very few games by like NFL

Starting point is 00:00:55 standards. I mean, this is like a serious break. It's a college season. They play on Friday and they play on Sunday. and then they don't play again until the following Thursday. So that is not much. And as we all know, LeBron James did not play on Sunday, which means he will have a full week off between games,

Starting point is 00:01:18 you know, before the Lakers play Minnesota on Friday, and we'll only play twice in about two weeks. So a long break for him. We will discuss how this matters for the Lakers, not just LeBron, but the entire Limpy Lakers crew in a moment here. I do want to let people know first, though, Andy, that today's episode is brought to you by Fandul.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 But the Lakers kind of made the calculated choice and sat him on Sunday. And the results were fine. It was what you would expect it to be against a bad Portland team in your own building. And so I don't want to say they got away with it, but the plan went as they would have liked it to. And now LeBron gets a little bit of extra rest.

Starting point is 00:02:27 Yeah, it was not just the plan coming to fruition in terms of the win. It was also, according to a lot of the guys on the court, it felt like a rejuvenated version of themselves in terms of the energy they played with, in terms of implementing JJ Reddick's vision on, certainly offensively. And look, before people start taking this as just backhanded commentary

Starting point is 00:02:54 against LeBron, I mean, you did go right there after I mentioned LeBron didn't play. Well, it's difficult to discuss. a game that LeBron didn't play in without mentioning what happened when LeBron wasn't out there. I was going to say it is, I believe this actually began in the Atlanta game where they were running their offense considerably better. I thought LeBron's energy on both sides of the ball was quite good. Like one of the best we've seen from him in a while.

Starting point is 00:03:28 and I said after the game on Friday in our show that I thought that energy was infectious. And for better and for worse, this team is going to take cues from LeBron. And however necessary you feel like it is for LeBron to conserve energy over the course of 82 games, most of which gets conserved on the defensive end, there is a trickle-down. effect and it has to be accounted for in some way. So that's hopefully one of the benefits that comes from him getting this unusually sparse period of games where he will presumably practice at least some of the time, if not all of it.

Starting point is 00:04:18 Well, it was interesting. JJ Redick said that he would have four days off. I don't know if he just was doing the math wrong in his head when he, when he, said this after Sunday, but four games off would, he took it literally would mean LeBron starting to practice on Wednesday. Again, he might have just done the math wrong or it's possible. Lakers aren't practicing until Wednesday. I was going to say it's possible that as well. But either way, this could be very, it could be very useful for LeBron, could be very useful for the whole team. What the effect will be, I'm not quite sure. I mean, because there's a few

Starting point is 00:04:56 different theoretical benefits to this period mentally and schematically? Well, I, yeah, I mean, and we can say, and I think the first and most tangible thing is health, you know, and whether I don't know how, like, they, Austin Reeves has not seemed like close to playing since, you know, he got hurt in the Oklahoma City game. And, you know, it hasn't been one of those like questionable or he's listed as doubtful. It's like he's out. Like there's no doubtful. a couple of times, but largely out. Like there's been very little mystery as to whether or not he was going to play. The mystery is he's not going to play.

Starting point is 00:05:35 So whether, even if, let's say Reeves misses Friday's game, let's say he misses Sunday's game. It is normally in a 10 days. So the Lakers just finished like a 10 day stretch and 11 day stretch where they played like seven times. So to have a setup where you're only playing twice, that means, if it takes Reeves, if it takes Jackson Hayes, if they're seven or eight days away from returning the lineup, it means they're only going to miss a couple more games. And so that is significant for the Lakers.

Starting point is 00:06:12 And I think the rest thing, the rest thing to me for LeBron is interesting because I think your point about you need to find ways to get the most out of him for the games he plays and he can't particularly while other people are out. Like he can't completely abdicate the defensive portion of the game. And so I think what they got to was an understanding as a group when things were just going really bad for the team and also really bad for him, that the next, whether there's the last 60 whatever games that are left in the season or 50,

Starting point is 00:06:54 I forget, I've done the math. This notion of all 82, which is obviously out the window, but even like all 81 or all 80, like it is going to have to change. And the biggest thing is to me is like this is an extraordinary stretch where I would expect LeBron to look really spry on Friday. I would expect him to look spry on Sunday and then spry again on Thursday when they play. finally again. But what happens when the next five games in nine days or so those are the parts that they're really going to have to change how they manage to make sure that they're always getting

Starting point is 00:07:38 the best possible version of LeBron every time he plays. And if that means, you know what, the third game of that five game stretch. So we're going to make it so LeBron has an extra day off in between and isn't playing it back to back or whatever it might be, I would expect them to reconfigure how he's deployed going forward to avoid what we just saw in this miserable stretch of schedule where the Lakers played sort of endless basketball. It wouldn't surprise me if something like that happened. Assuming they have the human beings to put in the lineup. And also, too, that this is truly more of something that is.

Starting point is 00:08:23 To be managed for LeBron physically and mentally, LeBron talks all the time about the mental element of this and how that can be the hardest part of playing at his age. And also, too, I think playing in a place where you really have nothing left to accomplish or prove. It's really just redoing the things you've already accomplished. But like it's assuming that this isn't like an issue of, no, his foot is really problematic. and it feels like it's a full-blown injury on the verge of happening, and we're just trying to avoid it as best as possible.

Starting point is 00:09:00 It's going to be interesting to see how they can work out, like a miss every fifth game or something along those lines because the West is super difficult, and I don't know if it'll even be that easy because I know LeBron played in the Olympics, but at the same time, he had a lot of time off in between, the Olympics and the start of the season and not even 20 games into the season, this started becoming a thing. And I know they played a lot of games. But that's a thing. But that's a big

Starting point is 00:09:34 if. Like, is, is the issue that he just can't play, you know, an NBA schedule anymore? Or is he he might not be able to play that NBA schedule? Like, those points in the schedule are going to be problematic as they would they frankly are for a lot of players but like even more so for a guy with that much mileage and that much age um and there's a stretch in january where they play i mean basically the month of january is essentially every other day yeah and you know that is a lot but at the same time it's also an NBA schedule normal but the question you're right it's when you start getting those it's the every other day and look he may end up missing a game here and there and i think the foot thing is a, it's a little like the planter fasciitis that Anthony Davis has.

Starting point is 00:10:23 Like there pops up sometimes worse on days and others. And they're obviously going to be very careful with LeBron generally. But I mean, it's when they put in the extra back to backs. It's when they, and they don't, the NBA has cut a lot of that stuff out. But it's those are the times when it's like four games in eight days, five games in 10 days is a lot different than seven games in 10 days. or eight games in 12. That is a big difference. And so after the break, we can kind of wrap this up too,

Starting point is 00:10:57 but then also not just get into how it helps Anthony Davis, how it helps the other players on the team who are suffering physically. But now what it means for the Lakers to get back out on the floor for all that stuff you mentioned at the top of the show in terms of finding what they did well at the beginning of the season and rediscovering. We'll get to all that next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Fandul.

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Starting point is 00:12:31 Like, I think this question of LeBron and, you know, when does the end come? Like, you know, and every dayers understand that there's a little bit of a gap between, you know, go back to last year, how well I think he played versus how well you think he played. Or how long either one of us thought this could continue. Sure. You were talking about a 2028 final season with the Lakers and the Olympics, which I said, please don't do that. I don't know. I'm not saying I didn't call for.

Starting point is 00:13:04 I didn't predict that before. You just said it would be interesting to see. It is not impossible based on what he did last year, the idea that if he wanted to keep playing, that he could sustain it. Like I didn't say it was likely. I'm just saying, even what he did last year, it is not out of the realm of possibility that he would be like. Let's play the Olympics in L.A. and call it a day.

Starting point is 00:13:27 I've just said I don't want to see the Laker piece of that happen. If he wants to do that for someone else. That is a totally different question than could LeBron do it? Sure. That and is it good for the Lakers? And this is actually, you know, we might as well talk about this now because, or at least tee up that we're going to talk about it this week. Because a lot of what your problems with LeBron are less a reflection of debating

Starting point is 00:13:53 whether or not LeBron is still a topic. top five guy, top 10 guy, top 15 guy. And trying to, I think rightly so, please correct me if I'm wrong, contextualize what all of these questions mean for the actual functioning of the Lakers. Yes. Yes. I mean, LeBron is obviously still a very good player. That's not my point. I just think building around him, working around him at this stage of his career is more complicated. that I think people often realize because you see the numbers and you still see those moments where he does stuff that is legitimately amazing at any age.

Starting point is 00:14:35 Like it's awesome stuff. Just playing really still quite good at basketball. But I think it is very complicated and also only gets more complicated and more difficult, not just for Rob Polinka, but for LeBron every year this goes on. And I tend to be a believer in if you know an end game is coming fairly soon, unless things are just going awesome, you are better off moving away from it a little bit earlier than being caught when you know it's way too late. So Bill Plashky wrote a column, LA Times, long time LA Times columnist. It's kind of about this with, this is before the Lakers turned the tide against the trail. on Sunday. But, so I don't want to get into it now, but it is a great topic for the rest of the week.

Starting point is 00:15:28 Bill's position was basically not only, you know, that everyone needs to come together. Lakers need a Jedi mind trick, LeBron and AD into asking for trades. The Lakers should figure out how to do it and kind of get to the blowing up. So that's something we'll cover this week. It's become a wider topic of conversation, actually. I've seen things about it both on the athletic and ESPN. And it's, I think the ringer, it's come up like it. The idea of whether or not this LeBron AD era has essentially run its course,

Starting point is 00:16:02 not to the point where it's necessarily God awful, because I do think the Lakers are a better team than they were over the last 10, particularly if they have all of their best players available. Two weeks ago, the discussion was, man, this is really showing that the Lakers really ought to be going all in with what they have. Sure. But it is, even during the 10 and 4 start, I think it was still fair to question the ceiling of this team. I mean, we did here. Right. Of course. But if you're questioning the ceiling of the team, by definition, you are questioning, should the Lakers still be doing this? Because there's no point to having LeBron and AD together with the configurations that come with your roster, limitations, all that stuff. if you don't feel like you can win a championship.

Starting point is 00:16:53 There's no point to making. Or at least, you know, there's no point to making. You have a credible argument for. Right. There's no point to making all in moves. If you don't really feel like the foundation in and of itself is good enough to win enough games, to put you in a position to actually enter the playoffs from a place of strength and hopefully make a run.

Starting point is 00:17:13 Right. I mean, the threshold can't be this is the move that will guarantee us a title, but it needs to be something that you know, you feel like you have a legitimate, honest opportunity, even if you're not the favorite, but like, yeah, we're in it. Right. And so, you know, we'll get into the, but it's an interesting, but what makes it so fascinating is that, you know, again, topic for later in the week, but that in the course of a month, the conversation has hit both sides of that, of that discussion of, man, the Lakers,

Starting point is 00:17:48 Look at that. They're off to a much better start than expected. LeBron looks good. AD looks good. And, you know, now, then they lose a bunch of games and guys get hurt. And it's like, oh, maybe not. And, you know, I have some thoughts about that. But it is underrated to me the importance of Anthony Davis getting off his foot in this. Because we learned Sunday for sure, when the Lakers need. a star. I know it was the Blazers, folks, but like, you know, the Lakers did not go into this game from a position of strength.

Starting point is 00:18:26 And losing this game would have been catastrophic. Yes. Like really, truly bad. And so, like, this was a game that you needed a star performance from the one guy who was very obviously the best player on the floor. Anthony Deavis gave you 30 points and 11 rebounds. but you go back. And five blocks. And five blocks. Yeah. Big deal there. You go back the night before in Atlanta where, again, the Lakers didn't win that game. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:18:57 Is this Orlando? Atlanta. It's the end of the season. And if the seating doesn't look the way people want. And Detroit. Those are the Detroit, but at least that was in like, I don't know. You're still going to remember it. It's going to come up.

Starting point is 00:19:14 I promise you it's going to come up. It's not good. But like that one, they lost. Like they were really crappy, like throughout it. They should have won it because they were playing the pistons. Like the game was against Detroit and therefore you should win. The Orlando game was a game that you could have lost because Orlando is a good team,

Starting point is 00:19:35 but you were winning and screwed it up at the end. The Atlanta game, they can't, you know, the Hawks came into that game and had five straight wins. Like they were playing pretty well. But you had control of that game in the fourth quarter. You had control of that game in overtime. and you piled up 11 stupid things on top of each other to make it almost like you were point shaving. I'm not saying they were, but if they were, that's how you do it with, you know, dumb stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:20:03 So he, but AD had 38 points in that game. They cannot go anywhere this year if AD isn't driving the bus. You can have individual games where LeBron can take over, a fourth quarter where he can elevate, you know, and do some LeBron stuff or whatever. But on a night in and night out basis, the Lakers will not succeed with the version of Anthony Davis that gave them 12 points against Minnesota, that gave them eight points against Miami. like he's got to be the guy that was putting up 30 points of game at the beginning of the season. And to that point, Andy, it happened before the game and after the game, JJ Reddick and the Lakers as a whole. We're discussing that and why and how they've gotten away from it. And we're going to ask whether or not they can get it back next.

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Starting point is 00:22:37 touches um for anthony davis he you know he said it before the portland game the plan is to get a paint touch in every possession. I mean, well, I guess Gabe Vincent could post up a little bit here and there or AR or whatever. I think this is probably to some degree it's to some degree it's LeBron and even every now and then Rui like you're, I think what

Starting point is 00:23:06 he's generally talking about, although to be clear, it is an AD edict and direct. And that doesn't mean back to the basket low, put it. It could be high postage, get the ball to Anthony Davis. in places that he operates. Right. I think it's also, too, a reminder of working more inside out at times in general and being more, I think, purposeful with what you are doing. And, you know, the odds of jacking up the first decent shot you see as opposed to finding

Starting point is 00:23:35 a better shot will generally increase if you are even bothering to look for something to start in the pain. Yeah. the function of the offense and the and the precision with which they need to run the offense certainly started to to kind of deteriorate over the you know over the first 15 games and you get a little more than that you know it is they don't have the wiggle room particularly defensively to be an imprecise offensive team like all that stuff they were talking about attention to detail and and that it's not.

Starting point is 00:24:12 not just about like, you know, activity. It's not just about hustle. It's, you know, Redick and other guys have mentioned. It's setting really good screens. It's holding your screen for the entire time, whatever. It's making a cut at the proper angle. It's, you know, it's all of these things. And then it's remembering to communicate on defense. It's like, I am not surprised that over the course of the season, a new group that was working with a new coaching staff and a new system, the further you get away from training camp and the regularity of just practicing, the more they started to lose those details. And I don't know exactly how much of that you can really re-implement.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Let's say they practice on Wednesday and Thursday. Go play on Friday. You're traveling on Saturday. You take that day off. Therapy, watch film, whatever. You play Sunday. Practice Monday, Tuesday, maybe Wednesday again. in three or four or five practices, I don't know exactly how much of that you can re-implement,

Starting point is 00:25:15 but they better get as much of it back in there as they possibly can. Well, I think some of this has to do with how much of this have you truly lost versus how much do you know but you're ignoring? You know, are, are you just not doing the things that you actually know you're supposed to do as opposed to in this time not doing it, you've lost understanding of it? And I think it depends in some respects whether you're talking about offensively versus defensively. Offensively, they showed an aptitude for being able to do this pretty well and then went away from it. I think some of this, I've talked about this before, and LeBron actually mentioned it recently.

Starting point is 00:25:54 You know, there is an element of adjustments being made to the team. J.J. Redick, this is his first time adjusting to adjustments. And also they haven't had a lot of practice time or even downtime to walk through some of this. you take away a secondary ball handler or a first and dairy ball handler like they're using him this year in Austin Reeves. Yes. And that screws things up. Right.

Starting point is 00:26:30 And defensively, I think part of the problem is they never quite knew what the hell they were doing to begin with. it was interesting though. And we can maybe talk about this more during the course of the week. against Portland. There's seen some people speculate that that it has to do with LeBron not being there and some of the switching being a concession to try to make things easier for LeBron. Reddick has also talked about, I think, wanting to winnow down some of their switching packages and when they do it, who does it, stuff like that, which I think everydayers will know. You have my vote of confidence.

Starting point is 00:27:02 I think you heard the pregame, right? Yeah. So my and I because I think that's where you're going here. I had I mentioned this on the show for Monday. I had a really interesting way of getting to this part of the conversation. I heard I saw Reddick's response about the screening and when he talks about what you said like says it's been good. It's helped us in times. It, you know, we have to be switching switching. I'm sorry, switching. It's been good. It's helped us.

Starting point is 00:27:35 times it you know we really have to work on the packages we're trying to figure out you know which groups we can do it with and not and when you read it it sounds in your like am I and I could see in some of the comments like what is this guy smoking when you hear it it's a lot more measured you know it was it's and what it sounds to me is like yeah it's like it's not it's not none of this is what we wanted to be we're trying to work through And we're basically, as we like to use, you know, the comparison we love to use on this show is the, the Argo argument of this is the best bad idea that we have. From the movie Argo. From the movie Argo.

Starting point is 00:28:15 It's a great scene. Go look it up if you haven't. It was really striking to me to hear the audio of that versus what it looked like written down because it was a lot less confident and like, yeah, we are doing the right thing. when you hear Redick actually say it. Sure. I think JJ has largely been pretty measured. He's trying to be diplomatic and just be like, this is the only, we can't, we're getting lit up. He has, JJ has largely been more praising of defensive effort

Starting point is 00:28:52 over the course of the season at times than defensive execution. But anyway, it's something we can get into more over the course of the week. That's something where I feel like there is more to be. the like ironed out from a place of understanding how they do it. The offense, I think, is more of a matter of discipline, you know, particularly once everybody's on board. But like a couple of things, I was looking up some numbers. And during the 10 and 4 start, opening season, opening of the season through November 19th,

Starting point is 00:29:23 AD had a usage rate of 31.2. LeBron 26.4. During the 3 and 7 swoon, it basically flipped. LeBron had a usage rate of 31.2, AD 28.6, and everyone else has a sort of vacillated except for Rui, which has gone down, which I will get to in a second. But obviously there's contextual stuff to this particularly Reeves being out. I've said before, I think there was a period where LeBron was really trying to work through some of these struggles. You take Russell out of the lineup, out of the starting lineup. That has an influence. on these things because of the ball match. Sure. Although,

Starting point is 00:30:05 although Russell was out of the starting lineup for a long period lead to. But it impacts. It's a factor. It is a, but you know, Russell's usage has actually gone up in a lot of this. I mean, really the guy who's losing a lot of stuff is either

Starting point is 00:30:23 AD or Rui, which gets to the other piece. It's a timing question of who's on the floor while. Rui, looking up some of his splits in wins versus losses. In wins, he is averaging 11 shots per game in losses a little bit below eight. His usage in wins is at a 16, losses a little bit below 13. And what's really interesting about this to me is that his splits from the field, 45 from the field, 43 from behind the

Starting point is 00:30:55 arc in wins, 57 from the field in losses 55 from behind the arc. So this positive effect that's coming with Rui getting more shots isn't even necessarily directly connected to Rui's percentages. It's his involvement. And I think the question of Rui's involvement is kind of a microcosm of the whole spreading of offense around this team and the need for it to become more egalitarian in the way we saw it earlier in the season in ways that I think benefits the offense. offense as a whole, but I also think makes LeBron's job easier. And I feel like also, too, the more you are remembering just to involve Rui, you're remembering to involve everybody, and then you're remembering the whole principle of it all begins with AD. It's just, that's the big thing for me. It's like if you are centering your offense,

Starting point is 00:31:54 I mean, I agree with you. It's, you know, there is. Because also, if you're not involving Rui with scoring what the hell is you on the floor right you know i agree and like it's um there i think there's a lot of of context and nuance and all that stuff that goes with well why like you said like why did that shift happen i think it's a lot of things going on um including some things that you know lebron needs to clean up just in terms of look every year we real quick every year we go through this thing where they add ball handlers to you know quote unquote make lebron's life easier and guys eventually don't end up handling the ball as much as you play. Same thing happened with Kobe.

Starting point is 00:32:35 It's like, except this year they did it. They didn't add a ball hand. They just changed Reeves' job. Sure. And so, you know, you can pile up a lot of the context.

Starting point is 00:32:47 Some of it's just LeBron habits LeBron has. Yes. Built up over 22 years, you know, of basketball. But the point is, regardless of why it happened, I think that delineate.

Starting point is 00:33:00 between where the usage flipped is a really good kind of, I don't like, it's a great signpost. It's a great signpost, good word for it. Of like, okay, it's not everything, but it's a really nice way to kind of crystallize the whole thing. And it is a statistic that needs to flip back the way it was. The onus, though, is also going to be on AD. to because you know last year they both played well really well you know I you know praised Anthony Davis up and down and all that kind of stuff yeah both did but you know it was still kind of you know Anthony Davis was best player on the team but LeBron

Starting point is 00:33:48 still kind of you feel like LeBron's still you know the conductor the engine of the whole thing it's got like AD has to fully take over every aspect of what it is to be the one. It can't be 1A, 1B. It can't be 1A, 1A, 1A minus. Like, it's got to be one and like a really good too. And I think it'll bring out the best in LeBron as well. 100%.

Starting point is 00:34:21 But like this is something that that is going to be different for AD, at least in the context of being in L.A. And it's different. for AD. I don't want to say like, you know, for a team with championship aspirations, it elevates where the Lakers are a little bit more than maybe I should be. But it's different being the number one on the Pelicans than it is being the number one on the Lakers. And so I'd love to hear what people think about that and what that shift looks like from nine to nine, whether or not you think Anthony Davis is capable of that. Leave that, leave those questions,

Starting point is 00:34:58 leave those comments to that question on the chat on the YouTube channel. Lockdown Lakers. You can tweet us at Cam Brothers. We're on Blue Sky with the same handle there, so we're easy to get a hold of. Lockdown Lakers on YouTube, Andy, is where you can go to hang out with over 26,000 subscribers. We will be back tomorrow and all this week

Starting point is 00:35:19 to really get into a lot of these big questions as the Lakers have a critical moment of the schedule. We'll see everyone tomorrow.

Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Can Extended Rest and Practice Time Recharge (and even fix) the Lakers?

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