Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Did NBA 2K26 Rate Luka, LeBron and the Lakers Correctly? Plus... a Kobe Movie?

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

For gamers, at least, it's a big day -- when the NBA 2K rankings start leaking out. (Big day for content creators, too, since it comes in the dog days of August.) So were the Game Gods appropriately respectful to the Lakers? Broadly, yes. Luka Dončić and LeBron James are among the league's top 10 (virtual) players. Austin Reaves was in the top 50. So basically these rankings pretty closely mirror those we just saw out of The Ringer, for example. So things seem to be properly aligned there. And meanwhile, the leaked rankings do seem to bolster the argument the Lakers have better depth this season, with guys like Rui Hachimura and Deandre Ayton cracking 80. As for the team? The Lakers are placed as a "Tier 1" group, though near the back end of that bunch. Which, if we're all being fair, is about what it should be. They're seen to be potentially potent offensively, and shaky on the other end. Again, sounds about right. So hard to argue with the preseason evaluation of the simulated Lakers, at least. We'll see how things go for the real club. Meanwhile, Warner Brothers is reportedly in development for a Kobe Bryant related movie... and they're doing it smartly. In part, by not making it just about Kobe, and then by avoiding having to stage too much basketball. We explain. HOSTS: Andy and Brian KamenetzkySEGMENT 1: The 2K rankings are out!SEGMENT 2: What's the right way to make a Kobe movie? SEGMENT 3: Is Warner Bros. on the right track?  Listener SurveyWe’ve put together a survey to learn more about our listeners and make your favorite podcasts even better. Go tohttps://lockedonpodcasts.com/survey/ to get started. Everyone who completes a survey will be entered for a chance to win one of ten $100 Amazon gift cards.  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!OpenPhoneStreamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at www.openphone.com/lockedonnbaMonarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNBA at monarchmoney.com/lockedonnba for 50% off your first yearGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNBA for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everyone, welcome to Locked on Lakers for Tuesday. Brian Kemenetsky, Andy Kemenetsky. What's the best way to make a movie about Kobe Bryant? Somebody's got an idea about that. Plus, the 2K ratings are out for this year. Did they do the Lakers justice? That's next. You are Locked on Lakers.

Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network. Your team, every day. Thanks to everybody for making Lockdown Lakers. Your first listen to every day, Monday through, Friday, no matter how or where you get your podcast, Andy, you might get it through Apple iTunes, like that's where you can subscribe or Spotify. Great way to get your podcasts there.

You might be one of the 36,000 subscribers, Andy, watching through YouTube on the Lockdown Lakers YouTube channel talking to us, talking to each other, leaving questions, leaving comments, please, especially at this time of year. It is a great time to do viewer and listener comments. So we always appreciate those mailbag type stuff. So plenty to get into today, actually. And we are going to talk about this Kobe movie that is apparently in the works. We finally, Andy, found a LeBron workout video that absolutely nobody is going to believe means LeBron is going to another team.

And a couple other things we want to get in today. But first, we do want to let people know that today's episode is brought to. you by Fandul football season right around the corner. Visit the Fandul app today to start planning your futures bets now. So we'll get to the Kobe stuff. We'll get to the LeBron stuff in a moment. But Andy, it is if nothing else, not an NBA fan's favorite day of the year, but gamers love this day when the 2K rankings come out, both for the Lakers and then around the league. I always find this interesting to see if like the guys making the games kind of agree with the rest of us about how good teams and players are. Well, to begin, the make, first of all, we should clarify,

some of these numbers have been verified officially by 2K, released by 2K. Some of these come from a site that seem to be pretty looped into the 2K world and gets acknowledged by folks who pay attention to this stuff. Neither Brian and I are gamers. So we cannot say with 100% certainty that all of this is accurate, but I will say, or at least accurate in terms of what the actual ratings are, not accurate in terms of how the season will play out or the quality of the Lakers. You've got a 96. That sounds about right, I think. Yeah, right?

Yeah. Summer League, big improvement. Yeah, it's actually higher than LeBron, but they really believe in a second year bounce. but the Lakers, according to this site, they are considered a tier one team, or the 2K people consider them tier one, which is as high as tiers go. They are 84 overall as a rating, and that rating comes with the average of their top eight player scores. They are considered a team that is 88 with inside and outside scoring.

athleticism, which frankly kind of surprised me. Thank you, DeAndre Aiton for bringing yourself in there and helping bump up things a little bit, maybe even Jake LaRavia, playmaking at an 85 and potential, I like this, potential was considered an 87, like in terms of their overall possible upside. Here's where, if nothing else, 2K, their concerns seem to align with the concerns of most people, including frankly you and me. The defensive end, interior defense, or excuse me, defense 66, rebounding 59, and then intangibles only at a 66, apparently they have not heard of a guy

named Jake La Ravia. I thought he was brought in to be that glue guy, the super glue guy for the Lakers. I had to admit, like I saw those numbers and I said to myself, God, what would the rebounder rating been without Aiton? Like if they'd gone, like it would have been like just a six, not a 66, it's just six. And it's hard to argue. You know, if you look at the player weaknesses and the team weaknesses, it does kind of match with what we're saying. You can put the players back up.

And it kind of matches with what most of us think. And you look at the roster. I believe in, in NBA 2K, anything above 85 is considered like, high level and like the 90 and above guys are kind of elite the lakers have a luka at a 95 and lebron at a 94 those are confirmed by the way those are absolutely confirmed uh reeves at an 85 and then aton and ruy behind them in the 80s um i think that kind of makes sense like you know you look at the lakers roster and the the balance for this year in terms of quality from one through nine ought to be a little bit better.

I'm not going to say it's on the same level as, you know, I think Denver's got a little more depth. If the clippers stay healthy, they might have a little more depth. The funders certainly have more depth. But if the Lakers stay healthy, they ought to have more of it this year than last because Aiton, you know, by the end of last year,

Aiton gives them a real center. Marcus Smart gives them a real defender in the back court. You still have Rui. You still have Vanderbilt who maybe won't be asked to do things beyond what he's capable of, like most capable of. Or is just going to get a boost from showing up to a camp healthy, having rehabbed nothing and being able to start with the rest of the team to open a season. Like that in and of itself, I think it would be really helpful.

It can definitely make a difference. And so, like, you look at some of these things. And I think, you know, there are question marks. You know, a guy like Dalton Connect, is he going to be able to break into the rotation? They have Dalton that ranked in his 77, which means they didn't see him play in the Summer League. What is Jake LaRavia going to do? How much can he replace what Doreen, Finney Smith brought to the team last year? who is, you know, this is a real basketball concern,

not for people doing whatever it's called, like where you play the season, like your Dynasty League or whatever on 2K. Like, can they find a viable backup center from night to night between Jackson Hayes or Maxi Claibah or those nights where you feel like you've got to play small or it suits the opponent to play small? But what can they do behind DeAndre Aiton to make things work?

Like, there are plenty of questions about this team. But using 2K ratings as a shorthand, which is not a terrible thing to do. It's like looking at PER. It's like you don't use it as a Bible, but it's shorthand. You just, it feels all right. Like I feel like Rui has ascended into a place where people recognize what his strengths are. And I, I, I, I, there aren't a lot of teams that have two guys at 95 and 94, or two guys if you're expanding beyond it, Andy, who are top five and ten.

in the NBA. Yeah, the Lakers have, I looked at what is, again, possibly unofficial, but from this site, the top 100 players and the Lakers have two guys, like you said, in the top 10, they've got Luca listed as fourth with that 95. He's tied with Anthony Edwards. And then LeBron at seventh tied with Steph, Jason Tatum, and Wemagnam. Austin comes in at 49th. So they've got three guys in the 2K world in the top 50 in the league and like we've talked about with Austin before. A lot of this starts turning into tiers and specific skill sets what you need on a team. Like for example, Desmond Bain, who I think his 2K rating is roughly the same as Austin's. If you look at most of these ratings around the league or like the ringer and ESPN when they rank players, most of them have Desmond.

and Austin at essentially the same number, same tier, it can come down to what you need. Like for the Lakers, as an example, I would rather have Desmond Bain. Like I think Desmond Bain would fill more needs for the Lakers, particularly built around Luca. Better defender. Austin. Yeah, he's a better defender. He's a better shooter. He's an elite shooter.

And he can still score at a pretty high clip. Like, I personally think he's a little bit better than Austin, but I understand where you would think they're comparable. There are other teams that, frankly, which might even include the team Desmond Bain currently plays for the magic that you could argue actually need Austin more than Desmond. So it depends a lot in terms of the roster construction. And I don't know how much these ratings get into things like health because the one area that Austin is clearly superior or has been over the last couple of years to Bain is availability. Bain has heard a lot. He's missed a lot of games over the last few years.

And so that makes a huge difference too. But like when you look at the Bain example is interesting. I was listening to I think it was Kevin O'Connor and Waz on Kevin Kevin's podcast the other day. Waz was talking about Wazzing Lambray was talking about Bain in Orlando replacing essentially KCP. And, you know, we all love KCP in L.A. but Bain is an upgrade. Like when you think about what teams are, you can look at a player like Bain and say,

oh, he's not elite, elite, he gets served with this, whatever, pick your criticism. But you also have to think about when you're elevating a team like Orlando, who is he going to get the minutes of? And Bain at this point is a much better player than KCP. There's just no way around it. The same thing is happening with the Lakers. It's not that D'Andre Aidan isn't a flawed player.

he is. But who is he replacing from last year's post-deadline rotation? He's replacing Jackson Hayes. You mean two-way interior scorer? Jackson Hayes, according to this description. Yeah, I don't pay a lot of, yeah.

Yeah, no. Those guys, no. So, like, whose minutes is he going to get? You're replacing, you know, 20 minutes a night of Jackson Hayes with probably 28 or 29 minutes of D'Andre Aiton. But it's a massive upgrade. You're replacing the defensive alignments with no real backcourt guy with Marcus Smart.

That makes a big deal, even if Smart isn't the DPOI guy he was a couple years ago. We'll wrap this up if you want. Any final thoughts on it? Plus, Andy, what is the best way to make a movie about Kobe Bryant? This is a challenging answer. We'll get to that next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Open Phone. If you're running a business, you know that every missed call, that is money left on the table. Like, when is the last time you had a service emergency

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that Dalton Connect is one number higher than Jake Laravia and that also will be convinced they did not see Summer League if Dalton Connect is, I believe, nine points higher, nine numbers higher than Brony James. I'll be honest to you there. Because it looked at the opposite in Summer League. Summer League's just Summer League, but if you went off summer league alone,

brawny would be rated higher. I bet Jake La Ravia looks at that and goes, they got that guy rated above me? I mean, it is funny. One of them is a Lemon Daddy spokesperson and the other not. By the way, and if you're in L.A., you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm calling this right now.

Jake LaRavia will be the next Lakers' Lemon Daddy spokesperson because, A, he shares an agent with Austin, Reeves and Austin is a lemon daddy guy and B, I'll just say, they seem to like white Lakers because it's been Austin, it's been Dalton. I'm just calling it Jake Loravius next. There are a lot of white Lakers fans who buy cars. Get some head shots, Max and Clay, but you can do next. The Lakers fans who need to get their cars independently very checked by a mechanic before

they buy them. We're just, we're, we're, the Lakers fans are apparently too trusting, I guess. So there's a, there's, you and I love movies. You are special. You are,

you know, a movie, uh, I love movies. You're like a movie aficionado. Like if you ever need somebody for your weekly trivia, uh, highly recommend Andy.

So, particularly, uh, Biopics are of interest to both of us and like the best way to make them which ones are best and all that kind of stuff We have strong opinions about that issue independent of how exactly do you make a movie about Kobe Bryant Because apparently it looks like is it Warner Brothers is going to try to tackle that challenge? Yeah, it's a movie that is in development reportedly with Warner Brothers. it's by the screenwriting team that wrote Air,

which was the movie that Ben Affleck directed him and Matt Damon, Jason Bateman, I believe Viola Davis, among others, pretty good cast. And it was the story of Nike betting a lot within the company on making a then-Rookie Michael Jordan their guy before he played even an NBA game. The working title of the Kobe movie is reportedly, with the eighth pick, and it's going to center around all of the machinations and high-stakes metaphorical poker going on as team Kobe. Kobe and his then agent Arm-Telam with an assist

from Sonny Vicaro and the Lakers trying to steer Kobe towards the Lakers and ward off any other teams that might have been interested in him. And while it was back then, really, really unconventional to draft a high school guard. It was pretty unconventional to take then players straight out of high school, but a guard was unheard of. And, you know, when Jerry West traded Vladi for the rights to Kobe, I remember at the time, I was like, wait, what? Like, you traded Vladi for a 17-year-old?

Like, and most people were like that, too. It was considered risky as hell. But there was one team that was, by all accounts, very, very interested in drafting Kobe. That was the Nets, and they had the eighth pick at the time. John Calipari was the coach that ultimately got too spooked by team Kobe's strong messaging that if you draft him, he's going to stay in Italy. I think, like the idea of making a movie about Kobe is tremendously challenging for a

bunch of reasons. The first is just he was around for a long time in the league. Like there was, with a lot of things going on. Like there are a lot of eras of Kobe. It's not one type thing. It's you know, comes in as the

rookie that you're talking about. Comes in and, you know, he's the pre-fill and all that stuff that happens. There's the three-peat era. There's post-Shack. There's the back-to-backs. Then there's the Achilles. Like, there's just there's too much Kobe to do it.

Of all the different eras that you could focus on, I think it's really smart as a movie making thing and as a way to get to know Kobe from a certain time period to pick the era that they're picking, to look at this draft, to look at the context of bringing him into the league, which like you say was really interesting and unheard of in terms of the idea of,

drafting a guard and all the machinations that Jerry West went through to try to make sure that like nobody else is stealing the guy. And like all of this stuff, I think it makes a lot of sense from a movie making standpoint to focus there. Because at the very least, Andy, I would say, you've got to pick one thing. I think you're trying to make a movie about Kobe too much. Yeah. I mean, We'll talk about this more after the break, but this focus, at least, this approach, reportedly what it is, is going to avoid, I think, a lot of both biopic traps and sports movie traps, especially sports movies that revolve around actual athletes, you know, in this case an all time great, which raises the level of a lot of what you're going to expect and demand. I think this approach is going to get around a fair amount of it in a smart way and explain what I think both of us believe coming up next. Lockdown Lakers is brought to you by Fandual August 26 today. That is Fandual Futures Day, a brand new holiday for football fans who live for bold predictions and preseason hunches for just 24 hours on August 26th.

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You can also find the link in the show notes, again, for a chance to win one of 10. $100 Amazon gift cards. So thank you very much for doing that. Okay. You like me, I think, dig this approach to where they're going to focus this Kobe film. It's not the only interesting moment in Kobe's life, but it is a certainly very solid way to approach it. You mentioned avoiding both sports biopic problems and biopic problems in general.

one of the big biopic traps is when you try to cover the entire scope of somebody's life. And there's just often for people like Kobe who've just lived these incredibly rich lives of achievement with all these different twists and turns. And the things that would make you do a movie about somebody in the first place, there's just too much to cover. and when you end up trying to do everything, you end up in a lot of ways showing nothing. And I think this often happens in music biopics. You'll see scripts where it feels like it's written to essentially come up with a reason to play that one song

and then the next song and then the next song. And like the complete unknown, the Bob Dylan movie with Timothy Shalamey that came out last year. I think a lot of the acting in it was really good. But the first half of the movie to me felt like the movie version of a jukebox. And the script basically just kept showing you Bob Dylan playing blowing in the wind. And then Bob Dylan playing this. And Bob, I'm like, dude, I can play one of his albums if I want to hear that.

Like, I want to dig into his story. And to me, it felt like it took until almost the last half hour to really get you inside him. It's mostly like, look at how good of an impression, Salome can do. And he was great. That's great. But like doing Bob Dylan songs. like I get it. No, I agree with you. And then with sports biopics in particular, you often run into the problem of having guys be convincingly athletic in those performances. And other than boxing,

which I think is just a, something that you can singularly train for and be, most people don't really know what to look for with boxing. I think athletes are actors often struggle to look convincingly like that player. And in the case of Kobe, your basketball has to be pretty damn good to be convincing as Kobe. Focusing on this period, if I had to guess, is going to allow the filmmakers to show a minimal amount of basketball and still tell the story, which I think is really smart. Like in air, they never actually showed MJ's face, I think, is a way of trying to suspend

disbelief. If you're not going to be able to get away with that, I think, in this movie. And it's going to be a casting challenge to find somebody to play Kobe. But, you know, winning time managed to find a lot of really good unknowns to play icons like magic and bird and Kareem. But I feel like this approach, like in a lot of ways, it's almost like a caper movie. Like, you know what I mean? It really is. You're trying to pull off a scheme.

And, you know, and you're not stealing anything other than the net soul as it turns. out, but in a lot of ways, it's like a behind, it's a behind the scenes caper film. And I think it could be really fun. It's about something specific to which I think matters. It's about a moment in time. It's about a slice of, of time in NBA history and what the league was like then and how it was changing and all that. There's a lot that goes into this, this storytelling and this draft because it was so

early in this wave of high schoolers and stuff like that. And so, you know, I think one of the best biopics in terms of getting this right in terms of like, how do you take a guy with so much history and make a movie about him is Lincoln. You know, they didn't, you know, I'm not trying to compare Abe Lincoln, but in terms of just like a lot of story to tell, they didn't, you could do Lincoln's life. You can do all like what they did was a sliver of it, which is the passage of the 13th Amendment. And it's a brilliant movie if you've never seen it. It's really good. But it says you learn a lot about Lincoln. I think we'll learn more about Lincoln than we will about Kobe in this in this movie because

Lincoln is definitionally about Lincoln. Whereas the movie about this draft, maybe less, a little bit less about Kobe the kid as it is the surrounding atmosphere. But you also learn about America in this moment too. So like there's this larger context. that frames it. So I think it will be an effective device for sort of introducing Kobe to, you know, making a movie about Kobe that quite frankly then,

this is the other thing, avoids the hard stuff. Because if you make a movie about Kobe post-Colado, there's at least going to be some demand from people, criticism from people, that you're not dealing with something in there. And I'm not here. I'm not trying to relitigate the that moment, but it is a very challenging one that again, if we're all being honest, was sort of with time, especially as

Kobe became more accessible, became very obviously and purposely like, you know, a dedicated dad You know, we saw this side of him over the course of his life and then obviously with his, with his death, that portion of his life is often skipped over when people talk about it. I'm just being frank. So to avoid it in the telling of a movie, unless you're making a movie about it, is also a smart thing from a filmmaking standpoint. The truth is with Kobe, if you were looking to tell the story of his life, it would need to be a miniseries. It would need to be something like winning time or, you know, a 10 episode show on FX or whatever. Like there's simply too much to tell in a two to three hour movie. You're not going to be able to do it in a way that doesn't feel convincingly or that doesn't feel,

it'll feel surface as opposed to convincing. And then, you know, that's before you get into all of the other challenges that we've talked about in terms of controversies, in terms of trying to find somebody that both convincingly sounds like Kobe, looks like Kobe, can play like Kobe. And then, then you have to start finding all of his teammates. Here's the thing. I actually think finding people who can look kind of like Kobe on the floor is probably the easiest thing of those only because so many young people,

young players still look at Kobe as an inspiration. Young, you know, both players who, you know, are old enough to have watched him play, but, you know, people looking at YouTube highlights and all these are like, he's still a massive, like the, like carrying yourself like. But if you do the entire life, you've got to find somebody who can both act. Oh, no, I'm not saying, I'm just saying it like ironically to me, like that's probably, but basketball of all the sports that you have to try to figure out how to shoot. and make it look good.

Basketball is actually one of the hardest. Basketball is extremely. It's extremely. They did a pretty good job in winning time. But even with that, it's like, and look, the guy that they, I believe his name was Quincy Johnson, who played Magic.

I mean, that guy nailed his performance. Solomon Hughes nailed it with Kareem. They both looked reasonably good on the court. Norm Nixon's son did it. Actually, I thought a really good job playing. and his dad. The guy they found to play Larry Bird, I don't know who the hell he was, but he was amazing. But again,

this is hard stuff to do. The other thing I was thinking about, though, that could be maybe kind of fun, would be a multiverse of sorts with this movie that emerges winning time and air. Like, for example, Jason Clark played Jerry West in winning

time. He was, I believe, 58 when he drafted Kobe. Jason Clark is like 56 in real life. So chronologically, it works for him to keep playing Jerry West. Sonny Vaccaro was like, I believe, 57, 58, something like that when he helped steer Kobe to the Lakers. He was helpful in that regard.

And, you know, then ended up one of Kobe's guys. Matt Damon played Sonny Vaccaro in air. Matt Damon's in his mid-50s. Like, this could work where you basically create like a. winning time averse or an eraverse, like it becomes like the MCU, but instead of people in capes, we've got just people in sports. But you could theoretically expand these two universes or combine them, something like that, or it becomes Michael Keaton playing the same character in

Jackie Brown and then out of sight, both Elmore Leonard novels, the movie versions of them. But you could bring those guys back. I like this idea. I like it a lot. Leave us comments in the comments in the comment section. If you're watching on YouTube,

you can tweet us at Cambrothers on Twitter. They're focusing on the 96th draft. What Kobe slice would you want to see in a movie? I'm curious where people would put this moment in time compared to others. Would you want to see a Shaq versus Kobe three-peat movie? Do you want to see, would you, you know, the moment of Colorado, him coming back,

coming back from the late stage Kobe with the Achilles and leading the team, you know, and they're like, which part of the Kobe era would you want to see in a movie? Before we go, just dawned on me. One thing that I also think about that's interesting about this focus, the draft story,

is it's like the last moment before Kobe was Kobe. You know what I mean? Like before, because Kobe became a big deal very quickly right away. Like it's kind of the last moment before this legend becomes the like he was obviously a high school phenom, but he wasn't yet a legend. It's kind of interesting. And you know, the other thing we didn't talk about is it's it gives you an insight into

a family dynamic because remember his parents had to co-sign his first contract. That would obviously turn in, in, unfortunate directions as as his life went on. So there's that dynamic too in terms of storytelling where you know what the outcome is, which is always an interesting place to be. Lockdown Liquors on YouTube is where you're going to hang out with over 36,000 subscribers. A lot of people. And so you can be one of them. Again, leave us questions, leave us comments, tell us where, which part of Kobe's life you would want to see in a biopic like this. We'll see everyone tomorrow.