Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Ejection of Luka Dončić Ruins Great Game, Lakers lose to Thunder in OKC

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone, welcome to Locked on Lakers for Wednesday. Brian Keminetsky, Andy Komenetsky, the refs just can't keep themselves out of the story. They ruin a perfectly good basketball game, and the Lakers have a lot of work left to do. That's next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thanks to everybody for making Lockdown Lakers. First listen to every day, Monday through Friday,

Starting point is 00:00:35 no matter how where you get your podcast, this one's always free, never behind paywall. Locked on Lakers on YouTube is where you can go hang out with 34,000 plus. Very angry Lakers fans, NBA fans, because Andy in Tuesday night, the Lakers, they kind of pulled the okey-doke that everybody listed as questionable, thought it looked like they might be punting this game. Oh, no, they came out and played everybody but Rui Hachamura, who is not yet cleared to play back-to-backs. Lakers course in Dallas

Starting point is 00:01:05 Wednesday night against the Mavericks. People might have heard that. And so they played the game. They went in, JJ Reddick said, we got to win two games. We're going to use all of them to try to do it. And it was a fantastically entertaining game.

Starting point is 00:01:23 Seven minutes and 40 seconds left. Luca Donchitz yelling at a court side fan, Andy, gets tossed from the game by an overzealous J.T. Orr. It is hard to summarize. And not the Lakers losing this game because the Thunder played really well. And the Thunder could have won this game without the referee ejecting Luca. It was his second tech after he had been jarring with a courtside fan that did not seem like it was about to bubble over into anything really serious.

Starting point is 00:02:05 It was frankly, really quick. It's not like Luca had stopped what he was doing. He was basically backpedaling and talking after he made a shot. It was a 108 tie at that point. And Luca had already had a tack before, ends up getting a second tack. And at that point, he's tossed. From there, the Thunder went on a 25 to 8 run between the ejection and the point where the bench is emptied on both sides.

Starting point is 00:02:32 As LeBron said afterwards, the game was weird as hell after that moment, his phrasing. said the game was weird after that a couple times. And look, man, this ref ruined the game, not just for the Lakers, but I think in a lot of ways for the thunder, like for everybody. Because not that the thunder need validation, they're the number one seed in the entire NBA, but they played really well. They had some incredible shot making. There was great shopmaking on both sides from this team, from,

Starting point is 00:03:10 this game. SGA put up 42. There were a lot of great performances by OKC and their work is going to be devalued because of the controversy involving this ref and the ejection. Putting aside the ways it very

Starting point is 00:03:26 clearly and you're muted Ryan. The way it very... The headline is not Shea with this incredible bounceback game after a midish game by his standards for you know, on Sunday.

Starting point is 00:03:41 It was this. And that is a shame for him, because that should be the headline of this game. Yeah. And it's, again, it overshadows everything. And look, I understand, and every day or no, you and I have both talked about, Luca needs to be cognizant of the text that he already has.

Starting point is 00:04:05 He needs to be cognizant of his reputation. He needs to be cognizant of his reputation. to be cognizant of the fact that he is yapping all the time. Like you and I have talked about that and we have not let Luca off the hook with that sometimes in ways that, to be totally honest, pisses off our fan base, pisses off our listeners, whatever. But the refs also have a job to be cognizant of context, where you are in a game, the fact that basketball is supposed to have emotion and theater and personality and all of that stuff. So it's like, they have a job to do too. I'm not somebody who believes that players should have

Starting point is 00:04:45 license to just berate the officials all game. I don't like that. I don't think it's professional. I think the players have an onus to be professionals as well. But so do the refs. And that's part of their job is to make judgment calls. And I'm just going to say, Luca better have said something like straight up foul and like wholly unobjectionable, like unrepeatable in an X-rated theater for him to be ejected like that. Like it's just, it's completely egregious. And again, it ruined an incredibly entertaining game. Dave McVanman from ESPN tracked the guy down.

Starting point is 00:05:34 The court side fan, he's a super fan. his name is Jeremy Price. He calls himself the courtside tattoo dude, which probably a whole other conversation. But this is a, you know, this is like one of these things, you know, goes back to the playoffs, apparently. You know, they just kind of back and forth. Again, this sort of thing is not unusual. We've seen LeBron engage courtside fans and all that kind of thing. This is part of it.

Starting point is 00:06:00 And, you know, you could, I guess if you're going to lay into Luca, the argument is don't pick up the first T, which, you know, the first one is almost always unnecessary. But I just, I have no, I'm not going to sit here and say the Lakers would have won the game. Because I don't know. I mean, OKC is really good. They shifted a lot of momentum to that point. And the point is nobody knows. Like, it is an unanswerable question. And nobody got to find out the answer, which is the whole point.

Starting point is 00:06:32 The whole point is the Lakers were essentially robbed of the operation. opportunity to try to win. We don't know if they would have won the game or not because we didn't get a chance to find out. And, you know, we, I am not, I don't talk about officials much because I think the job of officiating NBA games is almost impossible, like in terms of contact and what is a block, what is a charge. And the fact that they actually get stuff right as overwhelmingly often as they do is a testament to how good these people actually are, despite the fact, that we just, you know, it is part of it. It's every sport.

Starting point is 00:07:11 You kill the officials and all that kind of stuff for every call that they make. This is something that they can control, though. This is something that is not part of the, you know, the greatest athletes in the world moving at speeds that are almost impossible to fathom trying to make a split second thing of who touched the ball last or, you know, where were that guy's heels and all that kind of stuff. This is, do I need to, okay, I heard of, I heard. heard a magic word. I heard something.

Starting point is 00:07:38 Do I count to five? Do I need to take this up? Where do they? Am I sure he's talking to me? Because if you're J.T. Orr, quite frankly, the amount, and look, guys make mistakes. You clearly overreacted. But, you know, Jared Vanderbilt, there was a clip of him talking to the post game about how it sort of seemed personal at that point between Orr and Luca. But like everybody, it's not Lucas first. day, you know he talks, talks, talks, talks, talks. And generally speaking, his behavior changes significantly after the first tech in terms of, okay, I know where I know where my boundary is, because I don't want to get thrown out of the game. So you think Luca Donchich in a game,

Starting point is 00:08:25 the Lakers badly were trying to win because they played everyone in this game that they made it seem like they weren't going to, is going to get thrown out for that. to yell at you after a made bucket. And again, after a made basket. Right. If you, it wasn't, it wasn't a,

Starting point is 00:08:46 when it wasn't a controversial, like, where's the foul kind of thing? It was just a really good play. Luca made a really good play. And if you think that he's going to risk getting thrown out of the game to yell at you, maybe JT.

Starting point is 00:09:02 Or, you know, I don't know if he's a, what his official grades are and all that, I don't know a thing about him. I don't either. I don't know if he's considered, you know,

Starting point is 00:09:11 highly ranked, low rank. I don't know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know who these people are. You know, everybody's entitled to screw up. It happens.

Starting point is 00:09:22 This is a really big one, though. This really messed up. And also, too, I mean, this adds to Luca's tech count, doesn't it? And the Lakers have to figure this out for, I remember exactly where he is,

Starting point is 00:09:35 but the Lakers are obviously trying to keep He's pushing towards 16. I don't think he's quite there. I think Audio Bliss sums us up very well in the comments. It's like missing the end of a great movie, like what we were ultimately robbed of. It's like you're watching an incredible movie and the last 15 minutes shorts out while you're at the theater.

Starting point is 00:09:55 I'm reading right now the pool report. Dave McMenemann tweeted it out. They're talking with crew chief Tony Brothers. Question, why was Luca Donchich assessed his first technical file by JT. Orr brothers? He directed profanity at a game official. Question, second one. Why was Lukatanschic assessed the second technical file by?

Starting point is 00:10:13 Or was it the official's judgment that he was speaking to him or to a fan, brothers? He looked directly at an official and used vulgar language. Then why was Jared Vanderbilt called for a technical file? He was called for a technical file for stepping towards and verbally taunting a player while the ball was dead. Get over yourself. I thought the I thought the step with the, Vandy, Avando,

Starting point is 00:10:37 I didn't have a problem with any of that. I mean, I thought it should have been a flagrant, like all that stuff. But just, again, but like, they were talking the entire game.

Starting point is 00:10:47 This is something that goes, after the break, it's like, I'm so annoyed by this, because it really is overtaking what would have been, again, so much interesting stuff going on it. So let's,

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Starting point is 00:12:20 in the first half, finished it down 10. Like we talk about Oklahoma City, you know, are they good enough shooting? Are they all like that that is a really good offense. And like they came out with a different game plan. J.J. Redick talked about it, Andy. Like they sped up that game considerably. Like the Lakers, it's weird to say like they gave up 80 points in the first half. And I don't think they were like they weren't great defensively obviously you can't be great and give up 80 points like they weren't terrible it wasn't like you looked at they gave up 20 I believe they gave up 20 points in the first half off turnovers yeah which is bad made even worse by the fact that they had scored zero points off okay C turnover so that I mean a 20 point gap in that one stat category is

Starting point is 00:13:08 massive well that's in that stretch you were talking you're there's a stretch in the second quarter you're referencing here. It was like four or five possessions in a row where the Lakers turned the ball over. It was just this. I think it was a 10-0 run just on turnovers. They completely lost the thread there. And it happens.

Starting point is 00:13:22 Credit OKC, who by the way also has a top flight defense in the NBA, which is why they are running away with a very good Western conference. But like, I thought it was cool to watch it because like, I'm watching this game going,

Starting point is 00:13:37 I'll take this as my Western Conference finals. Like five, six, seven games of this. Okay. And so, you know, everybody's into this. You go on NBA Twitter. They're talking about the adjustments to being. Who's doing what? Shea. What a, you know, remarkable bounce back game and all that kind of stuff. And Austin Reeves continuing to shoot like Steph Curry in the first half. And we just, I mean, it's a great. We didn't get to see what it. We didn't get to see the ending. No. It's, again, it's really frustrating, not just for Laker fans, and I include myself in that group, like seeing the Lakers lose,

Starting point is 00:14:18 it's seeing the Lakers lose in a way where they did not have full control over their abilities to win. Also, they didn't get to fully make good on the comeback that they had put together in the second half. Yes. LeBron and Jared Vanderbilt, I thought in the first half, were the two Lakers who got real playing time that I thought were struggling the most in the first half. You know, LeBron, I believe, I think he had 11 points, but it was largely at the line. Two of seven from the field, I believe at the half, four turnovers.

Starting point is 00:14:53 He just looked out of sorts. Jared Vanderbilt. It could have been a couple more, by the other. There are a couple of turnovers that were sort of saved that. Yes. Very marginal. It could have been turnovers. And Vando, there were a few plays where he got blocked at the rim or missed around the

Starting point is 00:15:07 rim. We've talked about this. for all the focus about Jared Vanderbilt's lack of an outside shot, the real problem for him is he's not nearly as good around the rim as somebody who, A, doesn't have range, and B, is as athletic as Vando is. The two of them in the second half, though, were terrific. Like, Jared Vanderbilt was putting on essentially a one-man defensive and offensive rebounding clinic. He was terrific, a lot of his energy combined with LeBron getting back to LeBron level of play, that among many other things changed the tone of the game.

Starting point is 00:15:49 But again, the Lakers did not get the opportunity to fully make good on that. And you know, you talk about that third quarter. That was another thing that stuck out to me like, oh my God. Because I actually, when I look back at the TV, I'm kind of, you know, watching looking at computer, you're checking numbers, checking stacks, making notes, whatever. I looked it up by highway through it. I was like, didn't Oklahoma City start this quarter with 80 points already? And they're sitting on like 93. Like they've got 13 points, three quarters of the way through the third quarter. They finished that quarter with 17. So like that, you know, Oklahoma City comes back,

Starting point is 00:16:30 post, you know, they put up 39 in the fourth and obviously that game got away in all kinds of ways. but little stuff. Like when you play a great team like Oklahoma City, they're going to be these sort of track meet type games where you're going to need to score with him. Which team can find eight minutes of defense? Or conversely, which team can take a defensive battle and find five and a half minutes of really good offense?

Starting point is 00:16:58 That in the playoffs can be a win. That is, you know, those short sequence of really good something on one side of the ball or the other. And so when the Lakers come back and they hold Oklahoma City 17 points in third quarter, some of that is Oklahoma City gets a little cold. Okay, fine, whatever. 17 points, 17. That got my attention too.

Starting point is 00:17:23 You start to see these things and like, what would a matchup of these two teams look like? And I mean, I really wish the Lakers that come out and won the game just because they put in so much of that. effort to do it. And we'll see if it has an impact on Wednesday night's game. But, oh, I mean, we're not alone. I mean, basketball fans are annoyed by this. This is something that anger's basketball fans. This was a great game. I think it was an NBA TV game. I think it was on somewhere nationally. I could be wrong. But like, if you're sitting there, you've got the,

Starting point is 00:17:57 you've got the, you know, NBA package, whatever it might be. And this is the game you sit down to watch as a basketball fan, you got screwed. Oh, again, like I said, I said it before. I'll say it again. The Thunder end up getting shortchanged for their performance in this game because people are going to be talking about. And we can get into this in terms of some overarching ramifications from this game because now these two teams that I think many people are expecting could make a deep playoff run.

Starting point is 00:18:27 They've now played two games in a row. Like, they're going to get. it shortchanged for the effort that they had tonight, the performances that they had tonight. They're not going to get enough credit because people are going to focus on. It took Luca getting ejected for at best sketchy reasons. And oh, by the way, Rue Hachemore didn't even play in order for the thunder to ultimately pull out this game. And things went to bleep for the Lakers. It all went sideways the minute Luca got ejected. And that is going to undercut the way the Thunder played in this game.

Starting point is 00:19:07 And frankly, which is asseline, given how good they are. Right. It's not fair to them. I mean, like, just so it's clear, I'm not being a complete Homer a hole with all of this. Like, it's actually, it sucks for them too. It's also, it's like, look, there are seven and a half minutes left in the game. It's not like either one of us is sitting here going, clearly the Lakers are going to win that game.

Starting point is 00:19:30 They could have lost by 10. They could have lost by 5. They could have won. I don't know. I love the way they played. And I loved that, you know, again, I know 80 points in the first half can get people's attention. They did put up 70 themselves.

Starting point is 00:19:46 So, you know, just the, you know, JJ talked about it after game, like surviving those sort of haymakers that Oklahoma City was thrown at them to, you know, sort of do what the Lakers did to them on Sunday and kind of put the game away. early. Lakers didn't let them do it. And they made it a game in the third quarter. And they finished third quarter ahead. And like it was, I think they were only ahead by a point. But this is only the fifth time. I think the Lakers have lost. They used a stat a lot on TV tonight. Loss the game they lost that they were winning heading into the fourth quarter. I will give them a little bit of grace both because of the Lucas thing. And it was like a point. So, you know, the first bucket of the fourth

Starting point is 00:20:22 quarter put Oklahoma City back ahead. You watch these two games. And I realize the Lakers performance has been a little bit up and down, but it's hard to watch these two games and think that's not a good team. Like, you know, they're as good as any team in the Western Conference. And put up a shade below Oklahoma City. But of the other, you know, however many teams you consider to be legitimate contenders, they are as good as any of them. I think that's pretty clear at this point.

Starting point is 00:20:48 I want to talk about that coming up next because obviously the way things turned in this game is going to leave a sour taste in a lot of late. Faker fan's mouth. And again, I get it. I think anybody watching us tonight would suspect a taste in our respective mouths not particularly sweet either. But I think there's something you can feel pretty good about walking away from this one. So we'll get into that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Robin Hood with Robin Hood Gold. You can now enjoy the VIP treatment, receiving a 3% IRA match on retirement contributions. The privileges of the very privileged, longer exclusive. With Robin Hood Gold, your annual IRA contributions are boosted by 3%. You also

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Starting point is 00:23:37 Each day I thought I subscribed to it. No. No newsletter for you. Nope. Absolutely. You had something you wanted to say? I don't know. Heading into this game, there have been a lot of debate. You and I had it for the show on Tuesday about what appeared to be a strategy of punting this game, putting more eggs in the Dallas basket on the second end of a back-to-back. Obviously, there's going to be so much emotion heading into that.

Starting point is 00:24:06 game. And then in the meantime, you've got the whole needing to win two games of the final at that time, four for the Lakers to clinch a three seed without help from anybody else. And I had been, you know, when we were talking about this, I had been of the opinion that I would have rather the Lakers suit up everybody for the game that we saw tonight. I understood the logic. I didn't even of potentially sitting everybody. I didn't even. talk about, I didn't even dispute it in ways that were highly critical, but I made it pretty clear, not what I would have preferred. I would have preferred everybody playing all the games. And I'm, I imagine there is going to be some fans who now that you ended up getting this result would have

Starting point is 00:24:53 preferred that the Lakers just go ahead with what appeared to be the plan and just put all the eggs in the Dallas basket. I'm actually still really glad the Lakers played this game because they sent two messages to the thunder back to back, you are going to have a really damn difficult time getting rid of us if we're ever matched up with you in the playoffs. Like we are going to be a hard out. I'm not saying that the Thunder can't do it. I'm not saying the Lakers should be favored.

Starting point is 00:25:25 I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying it's been made pretty clear, especially when you combine earlier in the season, the Lakers lost to the Thunder, but it was a pretty close game. And last year, the Lakers dominated the Thunder, even though the Thunder were on balance, a better team against the rest of the league than them. It's become pretty clear by now. There are certain elements of this Lakers team that gives the Thunder problems.

Starting point is 00:25:51 And I feel like even with losing this game and all the frustration that came from the way they ultimately were not allowed to win it on their terms, I think it was worth still playing this game to be able to let the thunder know seriously. Good luck against us. Yeah, maybe. Because I'm not worried about energy. By the way, I am not worried at all about energy or anything like that against Dallas. If anything, I think this will geek up the Lakers even more. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:24 And I mean, I almost, I think the concern with Dallas, too much energy, too much emotion, too much. too much, you know, you just too geeked up for it and you come out and you're a little over-cooked. I think that's probably that they're certainly going to be up for it. Look, I mean, they, I will take at face value the idea that they did all the medical evaluations. They didn't let anybody play with something that shouldn't have been out there. Like, you know, like, okay, it's game six.

Starting point is 00:26:59 got to get out there and do it. Like, no, I don't think anybody played through that. They held Rui out. And they, you know, they followed protocols. So if that's the case, I mean, there's like part of, part of the, of the math of sitting all those guys is because you believe as a training staff that the, the cost benefit there. It's like, just like we're getting into that territory where guys might be risking injury in ways that go beyond the normal.

Starting point is 00:27:25 It's NBA basketball and stuff happens. So I'm assuming they did their due diligence there. And there was a lot of value in this game. I completely agree with you. And I'm not sure that Oklahoma City ever really didn't take the Lakers seriously as a potential threat. I doubt they didn't take them seriously either. I think it certainly sends a message to the Lakers that that is not a team that over a seven game series, yeah, we blew them out on Sunday. But, you know, they came back hard.

Starting point is 00:27:56 the Thunder did, and we still stuck with that one. And, you know, they had opportunity to turn the ball over a little bit less. Austin Reeves, who otherwise played an excellent game, you know, continues just to play incredibly well. He did miss some critical free throws down the stretch. I mean, look, the Lakers, Luca finished 715, 23 points, five assists, LeBron. Again, you sort of mentioned that slow start got really, you know, really started to exert his will on that game in the second half. He's got 28 points, goes the line 10 times, seven rebounds, three assists. The turnover's too high, obviously, with six.

Starting point is 00:28:33 AR hits, you know, gets the line 12 times. He hits four threes. He finishes with 24 points and five assists. That's two games in a row now where your big three has been able to be effective against an excellent defensive team in Oklahoma City. You just show to yourself the coaching. staff, all these things that you're able to do against this team. I do think even when you're led by Luca and LeBron and you have all this

Starting point is 00:29:02 playoff experience, it certainly gives them confidence. Yeah. I mean, I tweeted this out at halftime at Cam Brothers that considering the thunder's insanely hot shooting, the Lakers giving up 20 points off 12 turnovers, zero points off turnovers for the Lakers, and LeBron struggles two of seven from the field four turnovers that they're only down 80 to 72 is kind of encouraging. They can play much better on several fronts in the second half, which they did. They did play much better.

Starting point is 00:29:37 And yeah, there were issues down the stretch with free throws and some costly turnovers. You mentioned Austin. He falls into both buckets down the stretch, but he had played extremely well in the first half. But JJ talked about after the game, the Thunder are a team that because they are so good defensively and so active and they're really well coached and they play well off each other, they're a really good team. You need three ball handlers down the stretch against a team like that in a very tight game. And losing Luca there really hurts. I think it's also too where not having

Starting point is 00:30:19 Rui really hurts because if you're down to two ball handlers in LeBron and Austin, then you really want another bona fide scorer who can at least be a release valve offsetting the fact that you only have the two ball handlers. Like I've said this many times, man, every time Rui misses a game, he reminds you of why he matters on this team. Like he's such a great bridge between Luca, LeBron, and Austin, like the three established top guys on this team who are pretty complete offensive forces as scorers, shooters, facilitators, and then the other guys who can do

Starting point is 00:31:04 certain things offensively. But when, you know, Jackson needs a lot of help, Gabe and DFS can make outside shots, but they need a lot of help. Rui can create on his own and it's not a given that he's going to put up 20 in a night, but it's not a surprise either. The other guys are a surprise if they score 20. He's really missed, man.

Starting point is 00:31:26 Well, before we wrap, just real quick, what are you expecting tonight? Lakers in Dallas. What do you think Luca's going to do? I think Luca is going to be incredibly dialed in because he's going to be pissed off at the way this thing ended in OKC. and even if you want to put some onus on Luca for that first tech, and that's fair.

Starting point is 00:31:50 And again, you and I've said, he needs to be cognizant of this. His ejection was still BS. And I think he is going to be feeling that sting. I think he's also going to feel some degree of responsibility like I owe it to these guys to make sure we win this game that, damn it, I want to win a lot anyway. I expect to see him pretty focused. we talked about it's going to be an extremely weird atmosphere. I do hope too.

Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. And I hope AD puts up a nice number as well. And Max Christie for that matter. Yeah, why not? Locked on Lakers on YouTube is we're going to hang out with over 34,000 subscribers who hopefully will sleep it off me a little less angry. By the way, too, real quick. Best wishes to Jalen Wells.

Starting point is 00:32:35 He took a nasty, nasty fall while dunking during a game tonight. I don't remember who they were playing the, the Hornets. And he took a nasty spill. I think he might have been unconscious for a little bit upon landing head first. I saw some Twitter reports that he broke a wrist. He needed to be taken to the hospital. I mean, it seems like big picture he's going to be okay,

Starting point is 00:32:57 but really nasty and a disappointing ending for a guy that was having a terrific rookie season. So hope he does okay. Yeah, for sure. Lock on Lakers on YouTube is going to go hang out with over 34,000 subscribers. We will see everybody after the game tomorrow. tonight i should say

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