Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Game 2: The Lakers Need More From Austin Reaves, Better Execution as a Team

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone, welcome to Lockdown Lakers for Monday, Brian Komenetsky, Andy Kaminetsky, if the Lakers is going to win game two, and they need to win game two. It's going to start with Austin Reeves and LeBron James getting better. Can they do it? It's next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thanks to everybody for making Lockdown Lakers first listen to every day Monday through Friday, no matter how or way you get your podcast, this one's always free. And never behind paywall, locked on Lakers on YouTube, is where you can go hang out with over almost 35,000 subscribers to the channel, Andy, and they are all looking for improvements from the Lakers for game two.

Starting point is 00:00:50 And specifically, we'll get into a lot of different things that need to change by Tuesday, but I think the most glaring is the performance of two-thirds of the big three for the Lakers. and really the third of the big three Austin Reeves. LeBron will get to, but Reeves, I think, is the right starting point here because Man Alive, he was not very good on Saturday night. I rewatched most of game one today ahead of recording, and I knew in real time that Austin was just having a bad game and seemed completely out of sorts, basically from the moment this game began.

Starting point is 00:01:32 but rewatching it, it's really striking just how ineffective he is on both sides of the ball. It wasn't just that his shot wasn't falling. His shot selection was often very bad. It felt like he was targeting the wrong guys to go at. He had a few passes that were just inexplicably bad kind of to nobody. He was getting targeted defensively. He just, we've spent a lot of time over the last couple months and talking about the way Austin has raised his level and in turn raising the ceiling of this team. And I have said as the resident member of this show, the guy that thought Austin was very good.

Starting point is 00:02:20 And I've never questioned that, but the idea of can Austin play at the level that is a legitimate third best player on a legitimately good, maybe contention? level team. And I had had my doubts because that level is really damn hard to reach. The last couple months had convinced me that he could do this. And again, in turn, take the ceiling of this team incrementally higher. I think he will be better than he was in game two, and he had been in game one. But the gap between what is needed from Reeves and what was there in game one is just massive. Yeah. I mean, you know, we'll get into some of the questions around physicality,

Starting point is 00:03:09 around aggression, and all of those things lacking. And one of the most telling statistics for the Lakers is they did not actually pick up a foul until four minutes or so left in the first half. And it was actually against Reeves, with Ant in the Post. And it wasn't a foul of like, aggression defensively. It was just Reeves trying to body up and kind of going through him and drawing a

Starting point is 00:03:39 foul on the way up. It was, but like, you know, Reeves physically, he is never going to be, he's not a little guy, he's six, five, but he's not, you know, thick. He's not like, you know, Anthony Edwards, for example, it's an inch shorter than Reeves, but as a mulch, much bulkier. He's not one of those guys that's deceptively strong. Reeves is as strong as he looks. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:01 I think that's fair. And, you know, he plays hard, and it's not that he's unwilling to try to body up guys in front him and he understands he's going to be, there are going to be awkward matchups and all that kind of stuff. But there, you can see when Austin physically is kind of elevated. And it just, he wasn't in this game on, on Saturday. And I don't, I don't, it's obviously, I don't think it's, it's never. going to be lack of effort when it comes to Reeves, but it was really emblematic of the overall

Starting point is 00:04:37 lack of physicality the Lakers had in game one that absolutely has to change for game two. And I think as much as anything, I don't know. It's not like, look, look, Luca put up 37. He got the Lakers off to a great start. The ball movement as a team was not good. There was not nearly enough passing. There was certainly not enough shot conversion when the ball was moving. But I just, I feel like the way that the game played out where it became a match of one-on-one that started from a stagnant place of here I am, here you are, and let's see if I can get

Starting point is 00:05:20 into the paint. it takes a lot of dribbles for Reeves to get where he needs to go. It takes a lot of time for Reeves to get where he needs to go if that's going to be the shot the Lakers are getting. And LeBron, to a slightly lesser extent, suffers from the same problem. So now you have two guys, depending on who the matchup is, who are just sucking up a lot of shot clock to try to put themselves into a position to either get a shot for themselves or create a shot for someone else.

Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, LeBron got better than Reeves as this game went along, but he still never really, other than a second quarter, he had 10 points. LeBron never really consistently found his groove. He had a few good defensive plays, although he also had some pretty serious, glaring defensive lapses in this game. In particular, I thought he was very inattentive,

Starting point is 00:06:15 both on the boards and also LeBron was as guilty I mean, pretty much everybody on this team was guilty of finding themselves in no man's land doing nothing defensively. Yeah, well, they were getting a lot of that in the second second second. Right, where they were too far off a shooter, but not near enough to the guy that they were theoretically double teaming. They weren't focusing on getting a rebound. If there was a miss, they were just kind of standing around doing nothing. And I thought, LeBron frankly, did a lot of that. I thought on balance he had a better game than Austin, but neither one of them was.

Starting point is 00:06:49 was close to as good as they needed to be. For what it is worth, and we'll see how much this bears out on Tuesday, we had talked a lot about one of the benefits of the Lakers getting the three-seat, avoiding the play-in altogether is they got a weakened change off and how the Lakers would really benefit from that as a team. There's a bunch of guys who have been dealing with nagging injuries, all this different stuff. LeBron, obviously 40.

Starting point is 00:07:19 like, and in, I think in a vacuum, that is true. But looking up some numbers on this team, and it's kind of counterintuitive, given what everybody thinks they need, and maybe they even do, they tend to be at their worst, the more games that they have off. And in between games, and in particular, LeBron and Austin don't play all that well the more time that they have. And in the case of LeBron, I wonder if it's, you know, kind of like a long form version of, you know, how sometimes older guys don't like to come off

Starting point is 00:07:54 the bench because they get warmed up and then they sit for a while and then their body feels creaky when they're getting back up. I know that if I go a few days without exercising, that first day back is a little rough. I'm not saying. I wonder. How to get the legs going? I understand. Like, I wonder if there's a sweet spot for LeBron where it's like you wanted to get a little

Starting point is 00:08:13 bit of a break, but not that much because all of a sudden the body has to ramp back up again. I also think this matter, regardless of LeBron and Reeves individually, this is a team that we've talked about, LeBron, Reeves, AD when he was here, Rui, like a lot of the holdovers, and we don't really know Luca well enough at this point to judge one way or the other. It's not a group of high intensity in terms of their personality. Like it's not that they won't be dialed in during games. I'm just saying they're a group that I think can be pretty laid back collectively. And I wonder if they were gone too long from the game, you know, from playing games. Maybe.

Starting point is 00:08:56 To maintain that sort of the mentality of the physicality that clearly was not there at all. Maybe. And look, I think with Reeves specifically, too, it's like, you know, I see a lot of people like, you know, he's getting picked up. Like he can't play. He's getting picked on and all that kind of stuff. Like, that's fine. It's not necessarily, like, their teams are always going to look for, it's going to be very difficult to find a roster with five guys where you don't look for somebody to try to take advantage of, you know, and try, you know, and try to come up with enough switches in a possession to get the matchup you're looking for.

Starting point is 00:09:36 And as great as Luca is, Luca can be that guy. You can't. And, like, I actually thought, you're not going to look to take him off the floor. Reasnably good defensively. game one. But the point being, it's like there's always going to be something and like you can devise ways

Starting point is 00:09:50 to make that harder for teams. But you, and at the same time too, you can also put yourselves, Reeves isn't like so bad or something that if you tilt your entire offense to try to arrange for him to get picked on, you know,

Starting point is 00:10:11 that has potential consequences. as well in terms of taking you out of what you're trying to do and you get so focused on one thing that you kind of lose the forest for the trees. But I just look at it and offensively, I feel like the the the the the Lakers need like he is the one that most needs the offense to regain some semblance of flow and pace and pop to it so that he can get the ball on the move, he can get the ball in transition, and then use his ability to kind of change speeds, herky jerky, all that stuff that he does so well to get into the paint and be effective. And then or come off screens and be a guy who can catch and shoot or catch and penetrate or whatever it is. They just, Minnesota did some stuff.

Starting point is 00:11:02 We'll get in this the next segment. Minnesota did some stuff that I think Reddick and the Lakers coaching stuff is a little bit surprised by. So we'll talk about that and we'll talk about the defense next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by DoorDash NBA fans. You know what time it is? It's playoff season. That means big performances, even bigger rewards.

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Starting point is 00:13:24 I think the Lakers were surprised that Minnesota, and I think J.J. Redick said as much, did not send extra bodies really anywhere on the floor over the course of game one. They played it very straight up. And I think that surprised the Lakers. And they, more than anything, need to be prepared to make that hurt Minnesota in a variety of ways. They need to become more creative than they were offensively

Starting point is 00:13:56 to against an defense that is not going to shade or double or do any of that stuff. So I think that is first and foremost what they need to be able to figure out how to do. And that ought to loosen up Reeves and then LeBron, who has been so effective as a partner and a player with Luca, in part because he's been getting the ball in such advantageous positions. Minnesota kind of took that away from him and the Lakers on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, first of all, if that surprised them at all, that's disappointing. I mean, that's bad preparation by JJ and company.

Starting point is 00:14:39 And I say that because you and I mentioned, leading up to this week, I know during the preview we did with Locked-on Wolves and Ben Beacon, but other times that if the wolves are capable, and they certainly have a lot of good defensive wings, of trying to play Luca or LeBron or Austin, as honest as possible without sending doubles, like doubles, particularly when they're going at Luca and also LeBron, that is often death to your defense,

Starting point is 00:15:10 because you are often outletting that ball to, say, LeBron or to Austin or to whoever with advantage. And like, if we saw this as a possibility for the wolves, J.J. Redick and the staff, they absolutely should have seen that coming. But at that point, you would just. I mean, it's as a possibility, but it's not, I mean, teams haven't done it very much. They just, some have, some have, some have. Some have. Some have. But I think, you know, All I'm saying is it's something that should, they, it's something that should have been. And again, I did not hear the comment that you're referencing from JJ.

Starting point is 00:15:49 So I don't know. Maybe I may be misunderstanding, but I don't know if I would have interpreted the same way or not. I'm just saying if that's the case, that's, demerits for them because they should have seen that as well. Either way, they need to be better prepared for it. You know, they need to assume that this is something that that could be coming. Because again, if I'm Minnesota, I'm going to, you know, the Lakersquered, what, 95 or 97?

Starting point is 00:16:12 I would make them show me, yeah, I would make them show me that they can make that, that defensive style pay before, you know, get, you know, get, you understand what I mean, before I would change it.

Starting point is 00:16:27 I would make them beat it before I would change it. But the other thing like the Lakers need to do, you know, getting into defense themselves, it's like one thing on Minnesota was, was defending and you could say, okay, you know, Jane McDaniels probably not going to shoot 85% again. And Nas Reid, you know,

Starting point is 00:16:46 even by open shooting standards, they were hot making more than you would expect, all that kind of stuff. The Lakers, when you really start to break down the film, and there were a lot of people doing this on, you know, for Sunday and, you know,

Starting point is 00:16:59 some just great stuff with all the, you know, different Lakers tape people out on social. You can really see how the Lakers just didn't even execute what they were trying to do very, well. They got they got themselves put in a position, Andy, where they were they were doing the worst possible thing, which is not really shutting Anthony Edwards down, making it too easy for him to become a distributor and giving themselves no chance to to close on on wide open shooters. They were so overcommitting into the paint all night, two, three, four guys. It's just, and you can tell it wasn't

Starting point is 00:17:38 really, they were shading off people that had no business being shaded off. Yeah. First of all, you mentioned the different people from, you know, Lakers' Twitter, people who cover the team that were putting out video breakdowns. One of the ones I watched a bit of and want to give a shout out to Jason Tim from Hoops Tonight, friend of the show. He did a very good, very frustrated breakdown of all of the stuff the Lakers were doing. Highly recommend people check that one out.

Starting point is 00:18:03 But like you mentioned, it was a worst of all worlds approach because, you know, they weren't sending help to Anthony Edwards for the most part until he was deep into the paint. And then it would be basically everybody helping, leaving everybody else completely wide open. Like according to NBA.com's tracking, the Timberwolves had 86 field goal attempts in this game. Fifty-seven of them were uncontested. And obviously, the metrics for the NBA.com, people the way they judge this might be different from someone else but it can't be that different to come up with like 60% of the field goal attempts by another team being uncontested that's just like jaden macdainils for example you know he went nine of 13 from the field which i wouldn't

Starting point is 00:18:54 count on happening again 11 of 13 i believe excuse me 11 of 13s in the field i wouldn't count on that happening again unless he has nine uncontested attempts like he did in game. game one where he went eight of nine, if you give him nine of his 13 uncontested, yeah, he might have another big night like that. And, you know, if I would prefer them try to play as straight up as possible and keep Minnesota shooters. And they have a lot of shoot. They have a lot of legit shooters out there. Try to make Ant beat you in a lot of ways, but with as little help as possible. or if you're going to be trying to double him, they need to be trying to shade him to certain spots on the court,

Starting point is 00:19:40 but bring defenders earlier, make it uncomfortable for him, try to make it harder for him to get rid of the ball, leading to a turnover. Once he gets rid of the ball, make sure it's difficult for him to get him back again. But it felt like the way they were approaching and kind of by extension, everything else defensively,

Starting point is 00:19:58 there was no intentionality at all to what they were doing. I don't, I mean, I would love to know exactly what the game plan was or what the film study looked like on Sunday. I can't imagine that was what it was. Like, it's like, it's funny because like in the playoffs, in the playoffs, people say, oh, make it, you got to make adjustments. And there is a, there's a really interesting line. I remember asking Greg Popovich about this once in the playoffs.

Starting point is 00:20:29 And like, he's, you know, this is a challenging thing. for a coach is diagnosing what is the difference between this is something we need to do differently. We need to. We are set up with our offense. We're running these plays or this way. This is our defense. This is our rotation. We're going to these are our matchups.

Starting point is 00:20:46 We're going to change those things fundamentally. Or we're going to do what we intended to do in that game that we just saw. We're just going to do it better. And like do what we, you know, execute the game plan better. We're going to make more shots. We're going to be closer attention to the details of what we're going to do with we did with more intention and physicality and stuff like that. And so, I mean, I think I would love to know if the Lakers really need to revamp their defense completely, or if it really is like you're saying, okay, guys, don't wait until he's at the free throw line before the help comes.

Starting point is 00:21:28 It needs to come higher. It needs to come faster. It needs to come more aggressively. we need to move faster with more urgency. If they do that, does that change where those where those defensive matchups happen on the floor? Does that change the intensity of the closeout? So the rotations and all these other things.

Starting point is 00:21:46 But I agree with you. I think you need to make a commitment to either get that stuff done earlier. And if you're going to double team ant, if you're going to throw bodies at them, they've got to be more aggressive and higher on the floor and all that kind of stuff. Or make Ants score 50. you know, and have him go nuclear and avoid the temptation to shade so far off of Nasre that he's shooting warm-up free throws.

Starting point is 00:22:10 Like, what were they, nine of 13 on corner threes? Like, or something ridiculous like that. They just couldn't be that low. That must be wrong. You can't give that up. And I just, I, that line between rethinking what they need to do, which I think offensively, they really need to rethink what they were doing. And then defensively, maybe just do what we're supposed to do, but do it better.

Starting point is 00:22:38 Because the personnel is not going to be much different. They're not, other than maybe trying to get Hayes a few more minutes. The personnel is the personnel. Hayes or, we can talk about this. I think the personnel and the choices that JJ went with the rotation for what it's worth, JJ actually said before game one that his rotation is not set in stone and that it could be fluid. And maybe there could be some fluidity heading into game too, because I, I wonder if

Starting point is 00:23:07 there does need to be. Tamara Rettish ain't around to put in. That's true. It might need to be some adjustments made. So we'll get into that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Fanduel. The NBA playoffs are here. Fanduel is giving new customers an incredible way to get in on the action.

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Starting point is 00:23:50 for a chance to win big. Don't miss out. Head to fandle.com. Claim your $250 in bonus bets today. The amount of minutes Hayes played, I fully admit, I had this one wrong. My thinking was that I even called him, I think of one of the newsletters, which again, you can sign up for at LockdownDaily.com, I kind of referred to Hayes as a bit of a canary in a coal mine with the idea that if he has to play a lot of minutes, it might mean, not that Hayes is a great rebounder, but he is tall. And bouncy. I was going to say he's athletic.

Starting point is 00:24:36 And he tries to. It's something this team can lack. There is, you know, like my thinking was that in part, like if he's playing a lot of minutes, it may be because the Lakers are really struggling to control the glass and they just need him to be out there.

Starting point is 00:24:57 That's not really how it played out. I think the Lakers just simply did not like the way it looked with Hayes out on the floor. They didn't feel like his defensive presence was helpful. And if the Lakers aren't going to be able, if he's not really providing a lot of rim protection, if, you know, and, you know, if you can't get him inside

Starting point is 00:25:21 with those easy lobs and transition baskets, you probably, you know, pull on. JJ's had a pretty short leash with, with Hayes broadly in big games. But he was real tight with him on Saturday. I don't even say it was wrong, but it was noticeable how quickly they went away from that option. And they were basically only playing small for the rest of the game. Well, and I think they might have been playing a little bit too small.

Starting point is 00:25:48 And I'm not even talking about just Jackson Hayes, although if they're not going to play Hayes, they need to be more confident about their lack of a traditional rim protector. because if they're going to play like they did in game one, like a group that is frightened at the prospect of anybody penetrating the lane and therefore everybody's going to collapse and everybody other than the guy penetrating the lane is going to be wide open, then you might as well have Hayes out there just for a psychological betterment of this team. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:26:23 Like they played like a group that was hyper aware of not having a backline back there. Beyond Hayes, though, I feel like if you're not going to be playing him 15 or 20 minutes and that size, Vando needs to play more. A, because I think you need more of the athleticism and the rebounding and that energy that Vando brings. I mean, I think overall Vando was not great in this game similar to pretty much everybody other than maybe Luca. you could make an argument had a pretty good game even though he was part of the defensive lapses and stuff.

Starting point is 00:27:02 People were very upset in the show comments because we pointed out one assist and obviously we said it in the show more people make shots. Luca has more assists than that. We weren't blaming Luca for the way that the... I thought I made it really clear

Starting point is 00:27:19 when I said bringing up the usage thing, I am not putting this loss on Luca full stop. They needed his points. I don't want this to be misinterpreted. We were not putting the loss. I don't think that was clear enough. Apparently it wasn't. It wasn't.

Starting point is 00:27:34 And, you know, it's, Lucas stat line was emblematic of the way the Lakers were being defended and how poorly they reacted to it. Right. It doesn't mean he was the problem. Right. But, you know, could he, could, could he be better? I mean, okay, sure. But like, you know, he had 37.

Starting point is 00:27:53 He had the best game of everybody who played. And it's not even close. But anyway. But yeah, it's like you, everything about the way the Lakers were operating on that side of the ball needs to have more hop to it. It has, you know, they need to cut. The physicality isn't just about how are you defending. It's how aggressively are you setting a screen? How aggressively are you moving away from the ball?

Starting point is 00:28:20 Some of that is sets. Like the Lakers need to call more action to get people moving. If they're not going to be doing it themselves, then the Lakers, need to make the more stuff needs to be coming in from the sideline to get people moving with purpose and that is on both sides of the ball it is not just defensively that that needs to happen and then you know then you start to get you know 15 to 18 out of Rui and you know seven to 12 out of DFS and you know eight points from Gabe Vincent and stuff like that that that make up some of that gap the problem with Vando is it's the same problem

Starting point is 00:28:58 with Hayes. It's like you, you feel like you may be playing four on five in those situations. You got to be, again, you got to be able to make enough movement happen and enough defensive disruption happen that you can utilize Vanderbilt strength. I get that and I think that they can find ways to do it, whether he's screening, whether, you know, dribble handoffs, things like that. He can sometimes be a short role playmaker. But first of all, for all of the focus, on Vando's lack of individual offensive skills. He's often one of these guys who's offensive ratings, and this happened in this game, is one of the best on the team.

Starting point is 00:29:37 So he hasn't been preventing scoring from taking place, even if he's not one of the guys who seems instrumental in the scoring. But back to the original thing I was going to get with Vando, if you're not going to play Hayes more than, say, 10 minutes moving forward in this series, and whether they should or shouldn't is a separate, conversation that maybe could be part of a longer, you know, a longer discussion depending on what happens in game two. But I think at that point, you have to play Vando more because you need more of that athleticism. You need more of the physicality. You need more of the edge that he can bring,

Starting point is 00:30:14 the energy that I think he and Jackson are often counted on to provide. But also, if you're not playing Vando and say more of those minutes start going to Gabe Vincent, I think they really do start becoming too small to go up against this Timberwolf's team. Like, we had talked about how this matchup would be an interesting test just to gauge how much the Lakers lack of traditional size, even as a team that is collectively not super small, like they're not, say, the Warriors that are just a much, much smaller team in terms of the guys that play than the Lakers. But I think if you start playing Vando only 10 to 15 minutes on top of playing Jackson Hayes 8,

Starting point is 00:31:01 I think you actually do start becoming too small for Minnesota beyond some of the other stuff that I think you miss by not having Vando out there as well. One or the other needs to be getting regular rotation minutes. I think that's a valid point. I do wonder if Connect might get a few minutes in games. Some of them maybe we talk about Monday going into Tuesday. They say they say a practice on Monday as well. I think, I do wonder if Connect will get a few more minutes. My big concern with the scenario you're talking about where they kind of don't play Vando and they kind of don't play Hayes either is just, I mean, it's less of a problem for game two and more of a problem for what, you know, a longer series is that you are really shortening your bench against.

Starting point is 00:31:53 you know, in shortening your rotation against a team that's going to be going two, two and a half players deeper than you consistently throughout the rest of the series. And I think that over the course of six, seven games could be a problem for the Lakers. And, you know, maybe a problem that really can't be addressed until the off season. But they might just have to find ways to get a little, a few more minutes, whether it's Vanderbilt playing more minutes, whether you find a way to get connect 10 to 12 minutes and see if he can give you some shots and some, some movement. He's a guy who typically does move well without the ball and, and, and knows how to create the space to get himself a shot.

Starting point is 00:32:38 And he brings some athleticism. He does. There's no question. I wonder if that's something that the Lakers would look into for game two. but there's a lot that will I'm wondering JJ typically does not do a lot of the we're not going to talk about that

Starting point is 00:33:00 you know like he's usually pretty like they know what we're going to do we know what they're going to do I wonder how candid he'll be about stuff that they might try to change for game two curious to see if he gets into these questions of what adjustments versus just do what we're trying to do better but

Starting point is 00:33:19 I think having played a game one, the extra day will benefit the Lakers for game two. It'll benefit the wolves as well since Anthony Edwards was limping around a little bit after the game. But obviously, you know, the Lakers, that's what we're focusing on. They need to get their stuff together. You don't want to try to bank on the other team star being hurt, try to win. Locked on Lakers on YouTube is where you can go hang out. I want to leave a last note of optimism just for people. LeBron James over his career now, 32 and 24 in game ones, which I think most people would suspect given the totality of LeBron's career and how much time he has spent in the playoffs on deep runs.

Starting point is 00:34:01 Probably you'd expect it to be higher. His overall playoff series record is 41 and 14. So he's got a lot of experience winning a series after dropping game one. Yes, plenty. And it is not an emergency time until they don't win game two. Then it then it's okay to find the panic button. But until that happens, it's okay. Lock on Liquors on YouTube is where you're going to hang out with over 34,000 near 35,000

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