Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - LeBron Finishes 6th In MVP Voting! Plus, the Shai Gilgeous-Alexander Foul Debate.

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

LeBron James is now the oldest player in NBA history to garner MVP votes. Wednesday, when the league announced the results, not surprisingly Shai Gilgeous-Alexander walked away with his first trophy, ...with Nikola Jokic the runner up. But down there in sixth was LeBron James. His first MVP votes came as a 19-year old with the Cavs in his rookie season. And now, he's finished 6th. Pretty remarkable, and well-deserved after a season where he averaged over 24 points, and almost eight assists and rebounds per game. So what does this mean going forward? LeBron has now played 141 games over the last two seasons, putting at least some of the durability and health questions to bed... except he's going to turn 41 this year so really, do those questions ever go away? Is it reasonable to expect more of the same from LBJ, especially knowing the team will be built around Luka Dončić, who will be assigned most of the heavy lifting offensively? Plus, the debate about Shai and foul-hunting consumed NBA social media after the Thunder beat Minnesota in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals. Is "the discourse" on to something? Or does everyone need to get offline a little more?  HOSTS: Andy and Brian Kamenetzky  SEGMENT 1: LeBron finishes sixth in MVP voting. SEGMENT 2: What can LA expect from him going forward? SEGMENT 3: Shai, the playoffs, officiating and how it all impacts the Lakers.  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!CarGurusBuy or sell your next car today with CarGurus at CarGurus.comto make sure your big deal is the best deal.SKIMSShop SKIMS Mens at SKIMS.com/lockedonnba. Let them know we sent you! After you place your order, select "podcast" in the survey and select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNBA at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, welcome to Lockdown Lakers for Thursday. Brian Komeneski, Andy Komeneski, LeBron James, becomes the oldest person in NBA history to get MVP votes. And what can the Lakers learn from the four conference finalists? That's next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked on Podcasts Network, your team every day.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Thanks to everybody for making Locked on Lakers your first listening of every day, Monday through Friday, no matter how or where you get your podcast. this one's always free and never behind paywall. And of course, locked on Lakers on YouTube is where over 35,000 Lakers fans are congregating, talking to each other, talking to us, leaving us questions,
Starting point is 00:00:48 leaving us comments, including the guy, Andy, who said I should grow a beard so that there would be more contrast in my face. I don't entirely know what that means, but I have not actually shaved for a couple days. Please let me know if this is helping. I don't think I'm going to go with what Andy's got here, but if facial contrast is what you need from my half of the screen,
Starting point is 00:01:16 I am at least interested in providing people what they want. To quote, corky St. Clair in the movie Waiting for Guffman, I hate you and I hate your ass face. I saw that. I mean, it does show we read these comments, but I saw that. It's like,
Starting point is 00:01:32 he needs to grow up beard so there's more contrast in his face. I'm not sure what. what this commoner meant, I just know there's a nicer way to say it. Maybe. For the very least, a more understandable way. Yeah. I actually, it's hard. I've developed shaving rituals, which will probably get into like really, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:53 brushes and soaps and single-edge blades and all. It's kind of fun. So I am, I'm enjoying that. Anywho, Andy, in other news, have we vamp enough? It's mid-May, the lake around. So after we've done our top story, let's get to our second story of the day. Today's episode is brought to you by Fanduel.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Right now, new customers get $200 in bonus bets when your first $5 bet wins, and if you were somebody who made that $5 bet that LeBron James would finish sixth in the MVP voting, well, my gosh, you are a big winner. LeBron, it was as the MVP voting was announced. on Wednesday afternoon. She Gilgis Alexander wins, of course, no real surprise there. Nikola Yokic second, Janus, third. But tucked in there at 6th, LeBron James got, what is that?
Starting point is 00:02:55 15, 5th place votes. Yeah, 15 5th place votes and one fourth place vote. So, I mean, he's up there ahead of, you know, Cade Cunningham and Anthony Edwards and Steph and Jalen Brunson and guys like that. And so, you know, the point isn't, you know, is LeBron the sixth best player in the NBA? Should he have been higher? Should he have been lower? Pretty good year from your 40-year-old future Hall of Famer. I've said this many times, not just over the course of this last season, but over the last few seasons as LeBron ages, like there are complications that come with.
Starting point is 00:03:37 having a player of LeBron's age and mileage and salary on your roster and trying to balance the building, you know, if not entirely, entirely around LeBron, because it is truly the Luca era, but LeBron is a big part of that core. Like, there are complications to it, and I think people don't often recognize the juggling, for lack of a better way of putting it, that Ropalinka engages in to do. this but it does not change the fact that the dude is still playing in a high level and the dude is doing unprecedented things like these things can be true at the same time because they are that we often couch or you know sort of frame what lebron does is like oh my god this is an
Starting point is 00:04:28 amazing for his age and the mileage like you say all these other things but you look me you look at the numbers this year and he 20 24 and a half points a game basically eight rebounds eight assists shot 51% from the field almost 38% from three point range a very very healthy 78% from the free throw line so and then you know you saw the uptick in his defense as the season went on after the what we've called on the show the sort of come to jesus moment after the miami game where the lakers were thoroughly embarrassed and the lakers just, it was very clear, needed LeBron to deliver more on that end, and he certainly did. I mean, those are numbers that- He set the turnaround for the, I mean, the team was unfortunately
Starting point is 00:05:17 not able to sustain it during the playoffs, but LeBron is- Some of it, sort of. Not regularly. They certainly were not on a regular basis able to- Oh, I mean, LeBron's effort in the playoffs defensively was pretty good. I'm not saying, well, I'm saying as a team. I'm not saying it was a team that couldn't. I meant LeBron personally and defensively did really well in the playoffs. I thought.
Starting point is 00:05:39 What I was saying, though, was that the team was not able to sustain the defensive surge that they had through most of 2025. But the surge really began before you get into the arrival of DFS, Vando's return, the emergence of Jordan Goodwin, everything that was there with Max Christie and Anthony Davis while they were part of the team. different things, JJ adjusted scheming, all those different elements. Nothing mattered more than LeBron dedicating himself to that side of the floor, despite everything that he still has to do offensively. But once the old man is doing that, nobody else has an excuse not to do. And it was a reminder that when LeBron is locked in, that dude can still be a very good defender. As he gets older, there's going to be, especially in like the first half of the season,
Starting point is 00:06:35 there's going to be the picking of the spots inevitably, and it's going to be infuriating. And for fans, even if it's understandable, it will be irritating. And there will be times where the price that you pay will feel real for it. And even if you understand why it's happening because it'll be in season 23, turning 41, there are ramifications from it. But again, that changed this year defensively for the lake. first and foremost because LeBron decided it had to change. And he dedicated himself to it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, for sure. And so LeBron in this becomes now the youngest person to receive MVP votes. And he is now also the oldest person. He did it in his rookie season. He finished ninth in the MVP voting as a 19-year-old and now as a 40-year-old. He finishes sixth. I did a quick count. It looks like this is the 13th time.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Might be the 14. Actually, no, it's the, yeah, 14th time, I think it is that he's finished in the top 10 in MVP voting, which is pretty impressive also. But just like I was saying, it is not just a matter of, wow, LeBron is productive for his age. 24 and a half, 8 and 8 with over 50% shooting and 38% and 38%. from three point range, give or take, is productive for anyone. Let me simplify this. Unless you entered the season,
Starting point is 00:08:08 considered the MVP frontrunner, and ended up finishing sixth, by definition, if you finish sixth an MVP voting, by any reasonable standard or context, you had a good year. Like, I mean, if you really want to just boil it down
Starting point is 00:08:25 to the simplest definitions and context, Again, unless you enter the year, considered far and away the guy expected to win and you finish sixth, six means you had a good year. So the guy who did win, Andy, Shea Gilgis Alexander, Star Guard for the Oklahoma City Thunder, he was part of what we call the discourse on NBA Twitter on Wednesday following game one, Oklahoma City's game one win over myself. Some call it online bitching, Brian. The discourse. I don't like the discourse, Andy, generally. There's some stuff in there that relates to the Lakers,
Starting point is 00:09:08 but there's also some stuff in there that is just worth chatting about in terms of not Shea winning the MVP, which I don't have a problem with, but all the other stuff. We get to it next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Fandul. The NBA playoffs are in full swing. We're in the conference finals.
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Starting point is 00:10:55 are different than the ways that other teams have to manage some of their stars but i will say this one of the things that is remarkable about the complications here everydayers have heard us mention this before there is a zero percent chance that when the Lakers signed LeBron eight seasons ago now that they thought he would still be playing seven seasons this will be his eighth season thank you that going into his eighth season in Los Angeles he would be playing at a caliber that would allow him to finish sixth in MVP voting.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I don't think the Lakers thought that. I'm not really even sure LeBron thought that. I was going to say forget the idea of playing at this caliber. I don't think they thought he'd be playing, period. Period. Or certainly not convinced that they would be. It was not a given that he would be on an NBA roster, regardless of how well he was playing.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And that to me is like the biggest complication of all. ball is because there hasn't been this sort of moment. Like Kobe, like you could play, not going to play, play for a long time, whatever. There was a moment you can tell, okay, you know what, this is, this is pretty much going to be it. You could see it with Kobe. You could see it with his play.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You could say, and for 99% of the league, that's what it is. You can tell when the end is coming and the player can tell. And everyone can kind of plan for it. LeBron, it just hasn't worked that way. He is not what he was when he was 30, but the wheels just kind of aren't falling off. But you have to kind of account for the idea that they could. And so it does become difficult to plan because this just keeps going at a level where he's not really easily replaced,
Starting point is 00:12:56 but he's also very difficult to plan around. It's difficult to plan around anything that's open-ended. And this, for the time being, feels like an open-ended proposition. We know that the Lakers pride themselves as part of their brand of, we will cater to superstars to the nth degree. And LeBron is as big of a superstar as forget the NBA as any sport has ever produced. and the Lakers very much want LeBron to retire in a Laker uniform. And you can get into how important it should be,
Starting point is 00:13:33 how much they should prioritize it to what degree. Are there breaking points, whatever? But this is something that is really important to them, which means you have it's, you have to account all the time for the idea that while LeBron still produces at a high level, this is not easy for them. Like you can feel the work. You can feel the sweat.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You can feel the labor in ways that peak LeBron often used to destroy worlds while barely looking like he was sweating. You see that sweat now. And there's there is an accounting that goes into trying to make LeBron's life and lift easier that even though you try to do that with all your superstarts, it's different for LeBron. It just is. It's disingenuous to. claim that it's not different for a 41-year-old than it would be for a 32-year-old star, even if you want to make that star's life easier. I mean, the Lakers tried to put pieces around Kobe.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And, you know, at one point they had Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar, Odom, you know, Ron Artec, Trevor, Reza, Derek Fisher, like, those are excellent pieces around Kobe. You know, they thought they were pulling in the mother load with Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. It didn't work out. But the point being, the Lakers. The Lakers were always trying to put as many great pieces around Kobe as possible, but it never felt like they were looking for Kobe to do less. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:04 And it's just, I don't entirely agree with that. I think there are a lot of putting better players around your star is so that they don't have to carry us. No, but you're always looking, I guess the way I would put it is you're always looking, they were always looking for Kobe to be Kobe. I think there are times with LeBron at this stage. You're looking for, if possible, LeBron to not have to be LeBron. That's the big difference to me. Maybe. But either way, and I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:33 the Lakers have done the heavy lifting at this point. I mean, Anthony Davis was supposed to be, you know, the person who could do that. Absolutely. And do, but, you know, they've done the heavy lifting of making LeBron not have to work as hard, certainly offensively, by acquiring Luca Dansch. So in terms of going forward, I don't see it as big of a deal going forward. They need to make the team better because they need to make the team better.
Starting point is 00:16:03 But I don't think they need to make the team better because they need to primarily because they need to lighten LeBron's load. They need more depth. They need better balance on the roster. They need all that stuff. So you don't want to obviously overwork LeBron. You don't want to have to make it. But there's no other team where you think about your superstar potentially having to take a couple weeks off during the season to recharge. He played 70 games this year.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He played how many games the year before? I mean, 71 this last year, 70. But the point is, though, I'm not, again, LeBron was available. But those type of propositions don't exist with other players. That's that there, I could probably think of 10 stars around the league where teams have to think about, Does this guy is this guy going to need a week off? Is he going to need 10 days?
Starting point is 00:16:51 That is so common now. I don't think that's specific to LeBron. I mean, Joel Embedon, who's never available, like he's truly never available or quite one of it. It's like, you know, guys,
Starting point is 00:17:02 you know, you worry about their availability, you know, and so, you know, do you have to, you know, maintain them throughout the season?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yonis gets time, you know, has sat for games. I mean, like, I just, I disagree that these things are, as LeBron specific.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Not that they aren't considerations with LeBron, but they are as LeBron specific, and he's played 141 games in the last two years. I didn't say that he hasn't been available. So what's the impact, though? Like, if you have to think about making sure he's fresh, but he's playing in the game, so it's not disrupting them in that way.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Well, I think it caught up with him a lot. Okay, fine. It caught up with him a lot in the playoffs. He looked tired through a lot of the playoffs. He did. like it's difficult to have this both ways with a guy that's 41 it is no knock on the team 41 year olds aren't supposed to be doing this like it's again i think there are a lot of players who in this situation you know looking around the playoffs teams that have didn't
Starting point is 00:18:03 really you know play in a lot of guys or whatever it is where fatigue looks like it becomes a problem i just don't think it's unique to lebron or the lakers perhaps as much as you do but either way The Shea stuff is is fascinating to me because we, there's a lot of NBA Twitter, you know, and God is, this is a hyper online sport. Way too online for a way too online. Yeah. And the, the victory. Adam Silver in the entire league should log off. Like really.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Because you can tell they follow a lot of the discourse, and it does them no good. I get this idea of, you know, people like the physicality of the playoffs. They like it, you know, when men play like men and, you know, contact and we, we honorable. We don't, you know, free throws or getting fouled in trying to draw contact is dishonorable. I think for a lot of people in a lot of ways. like, you know, this notion that like, okay, if you get fouled, fine, but nobody should think of absorbing contact, you know, trying to get Ann ones, trying to, you know, get to the free throw line as an actual offensive tactic. The amount of Shea hate that was out there following
Starting point is 00:19:32 game one, and it's been building up over the course of the playoffs, and quite frankly, would be more so people paid more attention to Oklahoma City generally. It was insane waking up Wednesday morning reading the reaction to Shea with, you know, super cuts of every time, every time he drove the lane, every time he got fouled, people slowing these things down like it was a Zapruder film. And I just found myself looking at this, Andy, going, I think you people are insane. And so when we come back, I'm curious what you think about, Shea about this. notion of foul baiting about officiating in the playoffs because that really is relevant to how the Lakers are trying to put the team together. All of this stuff and it kind of is encapsulated
Starting point is 00:20:27 in how you react to Shea Gilgis Alexander in this moment. So we'll get to that next. So I really do feel Andy in a lot of ways like this is almost like a Roar Shock test for how you look at the league based on your reaction to Shea in game one. I mean, I think I've talked about this on past shows before. Shea is one of my favorite players in the league. Like, he's been that way for a while. I didn't necessarily think he would be MVP level good. But when the Clippers made that trade and they sent SGA to OKC,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I said in the moment, I think he's going to be a really good player. Like, because we live in L.A., we saw, you know, we have access, easy access to seeing a lot of Clipper games, saw Shea as a rookie. I'm like, this kid looks like he could be pretty good. And it became clear pretty quickly in Oklahoma City that he was going to be very good. I think he's incredibly fun to watch play. Whether he, I mean, I don't consider him a foul merchant in the sense that I don't think his fouls are unearned for the most part. Do I think he gets a lot of calls? Yes. But do I think there are calls based on contact? Also, yes. There are a lot of
Starting point is 00:21:50 lot of players who look to get to the line. A lot of players who try to, if you want to call it manipulate, manipulate the game to get to the line. Guess what? You're including Kobe. You're including Jordan. You're including all. Brian and I covered the last 10 years of Kobe's career. Let me tell you something. That dude was trying his damnedest to get to the line every time he ever put up a shot or drove or frankly touch the ball. Like this is what they all do. I think it is different than, say, somebody like James Harden, who had felt, at least to me, because I know there's those comparisons, and I think there are people now that are talking about SGA, basically like he's just skinny, unbearded Hardin. But I don't think James Hardin, the difference to me between SGA and James Hardin is Hardin to me often felt like he was looking for the foul first and foremost. and whatever shot, whatever basketball moves second,
Starting point is 00:22:53 SGA to me always looks like, or for the most part, basketball move first, seeking out bucket first, foul second. And some of this is going to be in the eye of the beholder, whatever. But that's what it feels like to me. He also drives constantly relentlessly. I mean, he got a ton of calls in that game one. Again, I saw all the super cuts. I'm looking at most of these going, that's foul, folks.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I'm sure it's frustrating if you're a Minnesota fan, but it's like, or just don't like the way that SGA plays. You don't like the thunder. You don't like whatever it is. But it's like those are fouls. And he had something like 28 drives. I read that Wednesday in some of the postgame stuff. If you don't want SGA to get calls like that, keep them out of the paint.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And what I find remarkable is your sense. I didn't say that's why nobody can do it. It's why he shoots 12 a game or whatever it was. I don't like the guys who stand out and like shoot threes, Reggie Miller style and kick their leg and try to like, that's BS. I think Hardin did a lot of that. I think James
Starting point is 00:24:04 Gordon did a ton of that. He does. Or the guys who try to get it and leap seven feet forward to try to get content. But like they're again, another one of these plays where they were showing and it was Shay driving around Nikiel Alexander Walker cousin on cousin. crime um first time to the best of my knowledge since team mac and vince carter i think it was i think
Starting point is 00:24:24 it was nickyela it might have been that or it was either him or mcdaniels and he gets just a little bit around the you know a little bit of corner or then he gets his shoulder ahead of the defender and then he cuts inside to try to to to get to the basket to draw the contact and then immediately off the bump bounces back you know and he's i realize she's six six he's not a short he's not alan iverson little, but he's 6-6 listed at 6-6-195. Like, that's skinny. You know, you take a bump from a guy who's a couple hundred pounds, everybody's moving quickly.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Two things are happening. A, I do think physics is at play here. And then also, Shea takes that contact and intentionally is moving his body away from the defender so he can get the shot off. Because, like you say, I think he's trying to score. Yes. I find the reason nobody can stop this, and you'll see different interviews. views with different players around. The reason Shea gets so many calls to me is that he gets,
Starting point is 00:25:21 is because he plays differently than everyone. Brunson at a different pace and in a different way with New York does the same kinds of things. They have mastered aspects of body control and angles and play. All these are the things that other players, the reason they don't get those calls, they can't do those things. And I don't, and I don't think it's fair to. to punish Shea, whether that's by the officials or by the NBA Illuminati, you know, saying how horrible he is for basketball, don't punish his incredible gift and skill at what he does. It drives me nuts. I think it's incredible to watch what he's capable of doing. last thing before we get to how some of this relates back to the Lakers and the playoffs in general relating back to the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I would just say because a lot of the people that complain about this stuff, at least I think, a lot of them are kind of old school or they get melded into the people that complain that the game isn't what it used to be for pick a variety of reasons. If you are older school, I would think you would like Shays game because, He covets the midrange. Like he actually goes to that spot over and over that a lot of older basketball fans, some would even call them purists, say has vanished from the game because of the analytics and the eggheads and the venture capitalists who, you know, data geeks who took over these teams. Yeah, like they took over these teams, decided that's the least efficient spot. And it has become coveted less.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Shea lives there. Like, I would think anybody who sort of loves the science of the game would love Shea's game just on that alone. Totally agree. We'll get to some of these, you know, this ESPN is a really great article about what teams that are out of the playoffs can learn from the teams that are in it. But in terms of this conversation that we're having here as we wrap up, from for the Lakers perspective, this to me is where the NBA's problem that they've developed of having what essentially amounts. to two different sports. Part of the reason people are frustrated with Shea is because they look at Shay doing one thing and they're like Alex Caruso, quite frankly, mauling Nikolayokic in the previous round. Everybody's like, oh my God, scrappy defense. But you go near and post defense is different
Starting point is 00:27:57 than it's always been. It shouldn't be, but it always is. It's just it's different. Little guy guarding big guy. It's different. But they look at the differences in the physicality. They look at the differences and all that other stuff and say like, how is one thing? bear and what isn't. But the other part of this that is a problem for the NBA is because for 82 games, fans watched something being done one way. And then the playoffs start. And now everything is different. It's a different sport with different, you know, criteria for what's a foul and the amount of contact that's allowed and all these other things. The NBA needs to smooth that out because from from a fan experience, it's important. But from like a
Starting point is 00:28:40 team like the Lakers, how you build a team, this stuff matters. Because like, if you're not going to be in a situation where players can expect to get some calls, at least, that they got in the regular season, excuse me, regular season, well, then a player like Austin Reeves has to approach things very differently for the postseason than they do the regular season. Because part of his skill set is drawing fouls. And if all of a sudden that doesn't work anymore, not because he's not getting foul, but because the threshold for what people are willing to call because it's the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:29:19 changes. That changes the composition of how teams operate, which players are effective, what kinds of teams you have to put together and all that. It matters how these games are officiated in the postseason. I would agree. I mean, the league, to be fair, did make an effort this season from like the beginning of the regular season to bring more physicality. I agree.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That was something that they were looking to do. So even if you think it wasn't quite as seamless as it should have been from the regular season to the playoffs, it is something that they were looking to do. And truth be told, this has been an issue for the league since I've been watching it. And I've been watching it like 30 something years. Like there's a reason playoff foul exists in our lexicon. Like this is nothing new. This has been going on forever.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I mean, the advice that I would give for a team like the Lakers, be the team that you want to be in the playoffs during the regular season. And I would start accounting for more physicality in the regular season. Like part of the reason of the Thunder get to play the defense that they do is they have established, you know, all of this season and a lot of last season, this is how we play defense. I've heard, I want to say, I think, I don't remember who it was, I don't remember who it was NBA punditry, but somebody comparing the thunder to the Seattle Sonics Legion of Boom and the way that, that incredible defensive back quartet that they had with Pete Carroll's Super Bowl winning Seahawks, where they treated every single play, we are going to commit a penalty. You're not going to call them all.
Starting point is 00:31:06 and they established that as part of their brand. And I think the Lakers, look, JJ Reddick implored the team on more than one occasion during the season. Follow more. Be more physical. Like I'm giving you Mulligans. I will not be mad. So like there is space for the Lakers, I think, to occupy more here. And a guy like Austin, you know, look, he didn't get as many calls as he likely expected.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He also didn't drive as much in the post. Yeah, I'm not saying. I don't think this wasn't the reason he was ineffective. No, no, no, no. And look, I broke down, I took a look at some of the numbers. And, you know, he, in the regular season, he was averaging 10.6 drives per game postseason 7.2. And like, the free throws compared to drives wasn't an exact perfect ratio. Like, he was getting fewer calls in the playoffs than comparatively off drives than he was in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But I think also when you drive less often and you drive less aggressively, it's going to affect some of the calls that you do get. And also that threshold, that threshold also can rise up in a lot of ways for the difference between guys who are considered, you know, All Star adjacent, you know, very good players to SGA. Like SGA is going to get some calls. Austin doesn't get because he's SGA. and Austin AIM. And he's also better at doing the thing that Austin is trying to do. I'm not trying to say that,
Starting point is 00:32:40 that, you know, but Luca, Luca is a guy who drawing fouls in contact and all that is a big part of his game as well, getting to the free throw line. It's important. LeBron, same way, less so now than it used to be, but similar. Luca got,
Starting point is 00:32:54 Luca, though, got to the line a lot. He did. But some of these, you know, and some of these things changed. He actually couldn't hit a shot. It was the one thing that really kept his, offense. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:33:04 Lucas' bigger problem was not making his free throws as opposed, I mean, he averaged in these playoffs nine trips to the line. Yeah, his problem was not getting a jumper.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, he couldn't get a jumper, hit a jumper. I just, I think it's, the NBA, in my opinion, needs to find a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:21 more consistency and where playoffs things changes, to me, shouldn't be within, you know, 10, 15 percent, what's a foul,
Starting point is 00:33:29 what's not a foul? That shouldn't change by more than 10 or 15% in my opinion. What should change is the leeway you get to be emotional, to be intense, to yell, the little pushing and shoving and stuff like that. That stuff should you, give them space for that. But a foul should be a foul. And it just, I think that to me is also to what feeds the NBA's, you know, this sort of conspiracy theory thing that dogs the NBA in ways that I think it does in another guess. But again, playoff foul exists in our life.
Starting point is 00:34:03 lexicon because there have been people who delight in the idea of a playoff foul. I mean, some of this is people complain. People like to complain. And because we live online, we hear all the complaints 24-7 in a way that it used to be just people bitching anonymously in their domiciles. And we didn't hear from everybody all in the venture capitalists. Yes. You mentioned the foul thing.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's something we'll talk about tomorrow. when we go through what the teams like the Lakers can learn from who is still alive in the playoffs. Locked on Lakers on YouTube is where you go hang out with 35,000 plus subscribers. We'll see everyone tomorrow.

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