Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - LeBron James (26 Points, 11 Assists) Leads Lakers to Big Win Over Golden State, 119-103

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Lakers get a key win in San Francisco against the Warriors. Can they build on that and keep home court advantage? That's next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thanks to everybody for joining Locked on Lakers, Brian Komenetsky, Andy Kemincki, big night for L.A. in San Francisco.

Starting point is 00:00:36 Yes, we are aware that. Golden State was missing basically everyone on their team except for Draymond Green and Brandon Pajemski. But you know what? Don't care. The Lakers pick up a big 119-103 win. It keeps them in control of their own destiny to hold on to that four seed in the Western Conference.

Starting point is 00:00:59 It keeps alive, at least vague hopes of finishing as high as third. And more importantly, or at least just as importantly, Andy, I think it gives the team a badly needed injection of confidence. We talked going into this game about how they needed some proof of concept to show this team with this group could win, not win titles. I would just win a game, win two games, win three games without Luca and AR and still without Marcus Smart. And that's exactly what they did on Thursday.

Starting point is 00:01:32 I said heading into this game, if they were not capable of, of beating this warrior squad. And when we were talking about it, I left open the possibility of Steph not playing this game. He had been listed as questionable, but a lot of people assume that he would play this front end of a back-to-back simply because LeBron v. Steph, only so many of these games left. And it's like, I get all that.

Starting point is 00:01:57 And LeBron talked after the game about how, you know, he hadn't even realized that they didn't play each other this year. But obviously, it's special when they do. So he's unhappy that they didn't. But the reality for the Warriors is this is something they're trying to manage with step. Like it's an actual injury recovery process. So heading into this, I thought there was a really good chance the Lakers would be playing a very depleted golden state. And my thought was, I don't care.

Starting point is 00:02:26 And if they, if they do not beat this team for whatever reason, and again, the reason I don't care, they honestly don't deserve the four seed because frankly, it, looks like they're just going to crap it away if they got it. These are the type of games that even contextually knowing they are on paper and in reality much better than these warriors, they simply had to do this just so they can start building any type of good habits that they can carry into the playoffs because, as LeBron said after the game, you know, it's on the front, back and side of their minds that they are at minimum going to start this series without Luca and Austin.

Starting point is 00:03:09 He described them as their two main guns. And he's like, we're professionals. We're going to go out there and play. But we can't delude ourselves into thinking that, you know what, man, next man up, it's going to be okay. Like, no, there is no next man that is. Right. The next man up are the ones that are healthy.

Starting point is 00:03:28 They're running out of dudes. And they needed to go out there and control this game the way they did, whether you think it's impressive or not just so they can feel any bit of seriousness and professionalism. And they did it. And it was great that it's great that they did. It is. It's not, you know, we'll have a week to really dive into, and almost surely will be the Rockets, I think, that they're playing.

Starting point is 00:04:02 But, you know, we'll have a good week to go into, can they beat Houston? What is this team? How do they pull the ups? All these other things. But part of the professional athlete mentality is just that that sort of willingness to talk yourself into things that probably aren't likely. That, you know, you're the underdog. You're the 16 seed.

Starting point is 00:04:29 And, you know, you can go out and beat a 1. You're a 15. You can beat a 2. Whatever it might be. And, you know, like LeBron says, you can't be delusional, but you got to find those places that you can say, you know what, this is a real thing that we can do. And you look at what they did. LeBron was extremely efficient, 11 of 17 from the floor and 26 points. He had 11 rebounds.

Starting point is 00:04:59 I'm sorry, 11 assists and 8 rebounds. And critically, only played 3.5. 32 minutes in this game. So, you know, at least in terms of physical toll, they set themselves up as well as they possibly could have LeBron turn around and play again tomorrow night against the Sons. And the other thing that I think is really important about what they were able to do is it still didn't involve a lot of LeBron, you know, at the top of the key,

Starting point is 00:05:30 controlling the ball. He still got the ball a lot in transition. He still got the ball in the post off of a couple different passes, whatever. It was still Luke Kinnard doing a lot of the ball handling and the initiation or Brani when he was playing and stuff like that. So they showed not only could they win a game. And when they didn't turn the ball over, they dominated maybe two-storm, but they controlled very handily this game where they weren't turning it over. I think it was important that they did it without LeBron having to be like supernova Superman.

Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah, it's from a psychological standpoint, if they're just going to go into their playoff series, this shorthand and shorthanded in such important ways, with any degree of confidence, it's one thing to convince yourself that you can win an uphill battle. It's another thing to just BS yourself. And if you lose this game tonight, you start getting into places where you are just BSing yourself. And these guys aren't stupid. Like we've covered teams. You know, this is Brian and my 20th season covering the Lakers, whether for ESPN or the LA Times or the athletic, 710 ESPN radio.

Starting point is 00:06:48 And we've been around teams that clearly thought they were capable of winning a championship. And we've been around teams that we've heard talk about a first. round series where they believe in themselves and we're watching them go no you don't like we know the 2007 first round against the phoenix suns that was the playoff series that they lost for one and that led to kobe demanding a trade that off season that team said all of the quote right things we were standing next to them saying it and we knew they did not believe a one of them no and and that with cause but yeah yeah But it matters.

Starting point is 00:07:30 It stuff matters. It's one thing to recognize, yeah, the odds are stacked against us, but I at least believe in what we're trying to do versus the odds are stacked against us because of damn good reasons. We are not that good. And a loss tonight or barely scraping by to beat this Warriors team. You, you know, on the heels of a three-game losing streak and a very, very, very tense atmosphere during that OKC loss.

Starting point is 00:08:04 And I'm sure we're going to talk about as well. JJ addressed the mood heading into this game. You start creeping into places where you can't talk yourself into the things that you need. Yeah. I think that's a great point, too, because like it's it the, the psych, the psychology works both ways. The Lakers needed proof of concept that keep using that expression, keep using that term. But they needed it. But the flip side is equally true.

Starting point is 00:08:29 you know, you can, you know, make it, you know, pretty clear. You can, you know, sort of, you know, undermine your ability to believe, too. And so, you know, there was a lot riding on this game just to, you know, to keep them focused and playing and believing. I, you know, we'll get into it. There was a lot to like. When the Lakers didn't turn the ball over and Golden State, again, playing without virtually everybody on their roster who contributes.

Starting point is 00:09:04 So it's easier to do this against that kind of team. But the Lakers, aside from really a stretch in the second quarter, where they turned the ball over repeatedly, generally speaking, took good care of the ball. They played good defense. They, I thought this is critical, had six players in double figures, including Jake Laravie. We talk about a guy who badly needed a bit of a bounceback game.

Starting point is 00:09:32 He made four of his five three-point attempts. At this point, I think you can officially say Luke Kinnard looks pretty comfortable playing this role of a facilitator, continues to move the ball effectively and take his shot when it's there. D'Andre Aiton had a really nice game, 9 of 11 from the floor. The Lakers figured out how to get him the ball, and he caught it. So that's good. There's just smallish, you know, it's against a smallish back line. And obviously he's going to need to do better against better competition.

Starting point is 00:10:05 But I think D'Andre, for his own confidence and his own rhythm, because his coach announced to the world, dude ain't catching the ball. Like these are all things that, again, they don't solve the Lakers problems. Nothing over this game and the next two can solve their problems. their problems may not be solvable. Well, they're not. Their problems aren't going to get solved until their players get that. We can talk about this coming up.

Starting point is 00:10:34 I think people need to recognize at this point what, like fans need to recognize what the season is actually about and what positive results actually mean in this context. Because if you're framing it simply championship or bust, then it's going to be bust. But that, in my opinion, at least, I think you would agree, that's actually the wrong way to frame this. If you're trying to be in any way realistic and productive with what they're doing. All right. So we'll get to that and talk about some of the other good performances. Plus a health update on Marcus Smart next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by better help.

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Starting point is 00:13:21 Fandull play your game. So there's a comment that was going on. in the chat right now from Marby Dogg 65 and he said or she said Marby whatever male female I'm not sure you can clarify in the chat but

Starting point is 00:13:43 it doesn't really matter I don't think this no no but I just you know you want to make sure somebody feels seen I don't think this season can be saved looks like a first round exit to me and I responded in the chat

Starting point is 00:13:57 it's not a matter of saving the season it's a matter of making of making the most out of best circumstances, bad circumstances. So if nothing else, these players can feel like their head can be held high in bad circumstances. Fans can feel proud of the effort that comes from this. And you can feel like something productive came from these circumstances. And they didn't just pack up the tents and go home. Like even when Luca and Austin were healthy, obviously this team had a far, better chance and prospects in the playoffs,

Starting point is 00:14:34 but they weren't championship favorites anyway. Like not many people thought that they were going to beat Oklahoma City or San Antonio, maybe Denver to begin with. So it's not like they went from frontrunner to first round exit, but things are worse for them now. Like there's no way around this, but that doesn't mean that none of this matters. Like there are things that can come from this that can still be important moving forward.

Starting point is 00:15:01 whether you're talking about for individual players, whether you're talking about for JJ growing as a coach, or just building culture for this organization moving forward. So I don't think people should be, I don't think fans should be thinking about this as saving the season. It's about what can you do to make this matter in any way? And I think those opportunities are still there. Yeah, I mean, I think in principle you're right.

Starting point is 00:15:29 I think, you know, what is so disappointing about this is, I agree with you. I mean, I think the Lakers would have been favored to get out of the first round, although, you know, in part because they had a much better chance of holding on to a three seed, which would have kept them against Minnesota. The wolves are kind of struggling a little bit. Houston, by the way, who had been scuffling is now one eight in a row. So they're not cooperating. And other teams aren't cooperating.

Starting point is 00:15:57 Joel M. Bede's appendix isn't cooperating. It gave out the morning they're supposed to play. The Sixers are playing the Rockets. So like nothing is going to Lakers way right now. And the Rockets won that game. Yes, they did. And so. Get well soon, Joelle and Bede. That's what Brian really. I mean, I don't care if you don't get well. But it's too late for you to get well to be useful to me, Joelle Embed. but like part of what is so frustrating about this is I agree that if I had to pick

Starting point is 00:16:34 where were they going to leave the playoffs anyway? Second round. I don't think I would not have picked them to beat San Antonio. I would not have picked them to beat Oklahoma City. That said, they certainly could beat San Antonio especially. And if they had held on to the three seat, they'd have run a path to the Western Conference final. And more importantly, I think one of the things that people recognize and what makes this so frustrating is finding the stuff that you're talking about to carry into next year, like make this an experience that somehow can be built on.

Starting point is 00:17:12 It's a challenge because so much of this team is not expected to be back next year. like there's there is a lot of turnover expected now I happen to think that more players could end up returning than maybe it seemed like you know when people talk about all the cap space they can open up and all this a lot of it is very very theoretical in reality Aiton is almost I think almost certainly going to pick up his option I think the lakers are going to find a way to get Marcus smart signed to a deal that keeps him in LA at a at a comfortable number for multiple years there's those there's two guys who are coming back I think Luke canard is going to be back if the lakers can you know figure out how to do all this um you know so there there are some guys and like

Starting point is 00:18:09 the trick we talked about JJ like how much can he improve in these circumstances the trick is going to be finding those little nuggets. And then after that, it's kind of just the principle. Like, whether it's, you're sort of building a culture for a couple guys who can help spread it next year, whatever it might be, it's just like at some point, like these things become about the principle of what you're doing as an athlete and as a franchise and all that stuff. There is no downside whatsoever to going out and putting out and

Starting point is 00:18:49 admirable fight in the first round against the Rockets. I don't think they're going to win, but I also don't think it's impossible that they can't. I don't think Tuesday's game against Oklahoma City, that was an impossible game for them to win. They were not going to win. I do not give them a 0% chance to beat the Rockets. So, you know, it matters that Jake Laravia had a good game.

Starting point is 00:19:16 It matters that Aiton can feel good. It matters that Brony came in and hit a couple shots. And Nick Smith came in and hit a couple shots. And like guys who you don't want to lean on, but you might have to get five minutes out of them. It matters that Jared Vanderbilt came back and played how many minutes in this game? 23, I think it was. 26. And there was, it was sort of like, no big deal.

Starting point is 00:19:47 He checked in. He played. He did Jared Vanderbilt stuff. Most of it was good. Some of it wasn't. But there was no, like it was a non-drami. That matters. All of this matters towards giving yourself the best possible chance to do something nobody expects you to do.

Starting point is 00:20:06 And then, you know, you can look at LeBron and be like, well, that guy's still pretty good. Look, if you go down, you just want to go down swinging. And they want to put themselves in the best chance possible. to hit some effective punches while swinging. Will they be effective enough to pull off a series upset? Again, the odds don't favor it. LeBron acknowledged the odds don't favor it. We don't lie to our audience.

Starting point is 00:20:33 The odds do not favor the Lakers. They are not going to be favored by Vegas or any of the sites. And even if they do finish with a four seed, they're still not going to be favored. Right. But again, that doesn't mean that none of this matters moving forward. If for no other reason, then these guys wanting to be able to take pride in what they do,

Starting point is 00:20:59 and there's no such thing as we're not talking about, what's the phrase, the moral victories? Yeah, we're not talking about moral victories. They will have lost, but there are prideful losses and there are shameful losses. At the very least, they want to put themselves in the position of putting forth a prideful lost series. And games like this matter if for no other reason then. If they lose it, they're going to start thinking about Cancun. Like I can promise you, if they, it becomes that much easier to be thinking about Cancun if you can't beat this warrior's squad. also too, as we get also into the update about Marcus Smart,

Starting point is 00:21:47 it's worth getting into what JJ mentioned with the pregame conversations that he had, both with the team and Jared Vanderbilt individually, because if nothing else, it may represent some either growth on JJ's part or just awareness that I think will be useful for the team as he tries to guide them through this difficult period. So in that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Price Picks. The playoff push is heating up.

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Starting point is 00:23:13 50 bucks in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, it is good to be right. So reading from Dave McMenneman pregame report covers the team, obviously, for ESPN, quote, JJ Redick said he met with Jared Vanderbilt since the OKC situation the other night. Redick said he did not share details about what was shared, Reddick did not share details about what was said, but said that the talk went great. Then Melissa Rowland for the California Post now, I believe, in, I don't remember if this was pregame, I guess, but said, quote, we had a great meeting this morning, very empathetic to the emotional toll of last week with our players.

Starting point is 00:24:03 And you feel a certain way when you're playing great basketball and you feel that you can beat anyone. And then there's this emotion of getting your butt kicked and losing Luca and Austin. That naturally, it's going to take time. And my takeaway from this without obviously having been there, hearing the entirety of JJ's comments or being able to ask any follow-ups, is I'm not going to say that he recognized or thinks that he made a mistake with anything Tuesday because that's simply too much reading in on my part. But I think he recognized that if nothing else,

Starting point is 00:24:39 they don't need to feel more berated moving forward. or they need some recognition of, I know this is hard, man. I know the situation you guys are in is difficult. And at the very least, I think JJ wants to try to avoid adding to it and wants to try to find ways to make it as tenable as possible. And just the idea that the word empathy stuck out to me a lot because there seemed to be less of it.

Starting point is 00:25:13 Tuesday night. And again, you can, you can agree with the idea of laying down very strict law in that type of approach with JJ, like very, very intense hot from the beginning. I don't want to relitigate this. But there needs to, I think, be some degree of balance. And I would say that was necessary because it seems like JJ recognized it. Well, I mean, he's had a pretty decent feel, it seems like, for the team last year. you know, kind of he got too tight in the playoffs. But like overall over the course of the season, I think he had a pretty good feel for when to push and when not.

Starting point is 00:25:55 I think this year he's, you know, it's not been an easy season for the Lakers. And I think he's, like that's the reaction for today is part of the reason. I didn't think overall Tuesday necessarily had to be that giant a deal. I mean, it's fundamentally, the relationship between Jared Vanderbilt and JJ Redick is what it is. The Lakers would love to move his contract. They may not be able to, but like these are professional people and nothing really was out of the,

Starting point is 00:26:31 was particularly unusual in the broad, like, and be like this sort of thing happens all the time. And so I'm not surprised that they came back with, a better effort. I'm not surprised that JJ, you know, was, you know, didn't come to work on, you know, whatever it was like Wednesday, whatever they did and Thursday for whatever film, like probably ripped them up pretty good on the on the film for Oklahoma City. And then you turn the page and you move on, let's get better. And so, I mean, I'm not surprised by it. I would have been more surprised if it seemed like there was significant carryover from Tuesday, not in terms of like how they play because like they're short so many guys who the hell knows how this group is going to

Starting point is 00:27:23 play from night to night. But just in terms of like the the mood and the culture and all that kind of stuff, I wasn't too worried about it. That said, it is good that guys came back. I think it was important that Vando got out on the floor and played. I think it was also important that JJ and Vando spoke. And I know it's important because they decided it was necessary. So I mean, absolutely. When a coach, if you're going to do that and sit a guy who is a veteran and pull him from a game and sit them.

Starting point is 00:28:00 And I think Vando, if you're going to as a veteran, get pulled from a game and twice try to, you know, get in, you know, sort of getting your coach's face about it or whatever. Yeah, the professional thing is for both of those guys to talk about it. And I, you know, so like, this is how this stuff works. But it's not always how it works. It's not always how it works. It's not always. But that's, but that's why it's important. But when things, when there are incidents like this, it's pretty common for the coach and the player to talk. about it. It is. When there are incidents, when there are games like Tuesday, it's pretty common for coaches to circle back and okay, you know, you know what? We were, we pushed you guys hard

Starting point is 00:28:50 and now we're going to move. We're going to be optimistic about this. Right. We're going to go. Like, this is the Evan Floboses. I'm glad they did it this way. I'm glad the results were positive. I'm glad he didn't come out and, you know, on Wednesday and, you know, do some sort of press conference where it's like, we're, you know, repeating the Miami thing. And, but I don't, I agree with you. I don't think, you know, I don't think JJ necessarily thinks he did anything wrong. And I, like I said, I think the biggest thing that he does, I think he was too, I think he was a little harsh on Aiden. What was anything else? I think it was fine.

Starting point is 00:29:29 And I agree with you. I like what has come next. Right. You are correct that it's not uncommon for the player and the coach to talk or the coach to address the team or whatever. But we've also covered teams where there are these blowups and you ask afterwards, did you talk with the player? And the answer is no. And the player says, I haven't talked with the coach either.

Starting point is 00:29:49 So it's not a given. And I'm not even saying I'm surprised. I'm simply saying it's noteworthy that it happened because it needs to happen. And it seems to. have had a good effect without reading too much into causation versus correlation because they beat up on a team that's a corpse. But they seem to have a good mental approach to it. JJ did say that he's spoken with Luca from Spain and that Luca is in relatively, as he said, good spirits at the moment. He's going at the rehab.

Starting point is 00:30:23 Austin's going through his rehab right now. they remain hopeful that Marcus Smart is going to be able to play still this week. You know, it seems like they're having difficulty getting Marcus's body and the ankle to react exactly the way they need to after these workouts, which I'm not going to lie, has me very concerned. I am well past getting a little bit. concerned. I think we asked this question when he missed his like fifth game in a row or six game, whatever it was. Are you worried about Marcus Smart? Oh yeah. Yes, I am. And am I really, really worried now? Yeah. And I'm still, it's still 10 days basically before they open the first

Starting point is 00:31:17 round. But like all of this stuff that I've been talking about, like, you know, hey, you got a puncher's chance you got to you know and so on and whatever like if marcus smart doesn't play no i mean i mean really are we gonna are we gonna again we don't lie to people we do not lie to the audience um any chance they have of winning four of seven against the rockets includes seven games where Marcus Smart can play. I mean, that's the baseline. Yeah. And even if...

Starting point is 00:31:54 And Jackson Hayes, by the way, they need to get in back. Right. Jackson did not play either. And here's the thing, too, with Marcus. I mean, like, Jackson's only missed a couple of games. Assuming he can get back before the season ends or just gets back to practice and maybe there's been an abundance of caution, Jackson has played enough of late. And his role is so specific. and in a lot of ways, he's the finishing end of what other people, like, say, Marcus Smart provide for him.

Starting point is 00:32:25 As long as Jackson is physically okay by the time he gets back, I'm not particularly concerned. Marcus Smart becomes an issue because beyond his own availability and what he will look like when he gets back, how physically capable, is he of playing, how compromised, whatever, they need to get the reps in with Marcus Smart in what is. obviously going to be just definitionally a more involved offensive role because they have three guys on this team

Starting point is 00:32:56 who can handle the ball and run the offense in any average way, much less above average or getting up to LeBron. Marcus Smart is going to be in a lot of ways playing the previous role of either Austin Reeves or LeBron as LeBron

Starting point is 00:33:15 takes over the role of Luca and either Kinnard or Smart play Austin and LeBron. Like they actually need reps. Marcus needs the reps doing this, and you can't just get it. I mean, yes, I would say yes and no. I'm less worried about the reps with Smart. He's been doing this long enough that I don't,

Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm not too worried about that. But if he's hobbled, you know, you also have the issue of, you know, he is the anchor of that defense. And so if he's limited in his movements, if he's limited, you know, if he can play only, really is only able to step up and play four games with any kind of, you know, hop or something like that. It's less the point guarding stuff. But like, you're right.

Starting point is 00:34:04 They need, LeBron's going to have to score 30 a night at least, I think, for them to win this series. But what it can't be is 30 a night where he, where it is like Luca, you sort of see it, it's like filling the role of Luca, but he can't do it in the same way. He can't do it where he starts possessions and finishes them, and he's the one getting into the paint

Starting point is 00:34:27 and finding the guy on the perimeter. That is not, that might work for a game. It is not going to work for seven. It's just that it is unsustainable. So you need smart to be able to initiate an offense and make the triggering passes and run a little bit of a pick and roll and all that. You need Kinnard to be able to do that.

Starting point is 00:34:47 what you can't have is, you know, Nick Smith or Brony or those guys playing, you know, heavy minutes because you don't, you know, you just don't have another guard. You know, Bronny played,

Starting point is 00:35:01 I think, 16 minutes in this one, you know, and you can't do that. 21. I mean, some of it was garbage time. I was looking,

Starting point is 00:35:08 I started typing and stuff or some of this stuff as garbage time was time. So I missed some of the, the end numbers. But like, you might need, from zero four minutes in game two for some reason you might need five minutes from Bronny in game three for some reason but you can't have 15 minutes a night from

Starting point is 00:35:29 either any of those guys or Timmy or like those are not players that you can throw out in the postseason but a couple of them may not even be playoff eligible if they're not converted yeah right you Timmy would have to be converted right same thing good yeah But like the principle there is sort of what I'm getting at. So we'll see exactly what this looks like going forward. The Lakers obviously have to turn around and win again on Friday against the Sons. And they're going to have to turn around and win again on Sunday against Utah.

Starting point is 00:36:07 That one seems pretty doable. But Friday's game is going to be a challenge. So we see how it goes. The Sons are locked into where their seating is. So they could get a break there. Lockdown Lakers on YouTube is where you can hang out with over 38,000 subscribers to the channel. And we will see everyone later.

Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - LeBron James (26 Points, 11 Assists) Leads Lakers to Big Win Over Golden State, 119-103

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