Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Luka Doncic now Truly Ready to be a Laker? Plus, his Relationship With LeBron.

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

The Summer of Luka continues, this time with a profile in WSJ Magazine, the long form arm of The Wall Street Journal. It's both a player profile -- one confirming again that Luka does, in fact, look awesome, physically -- and a fashion spread. And as the writer Jason Gay notes, the two are related. Most guys aren't all that interested in the modeling (which in this case includes a shot in the cold tub) if they're not feeling good about their appearance. The story was a nice introduction of Dončić to a demographic that might be less familiar with his work. And Rob Pelinka got to describe him as an "illusionist," a word he was likely back-pocketing for use in a well-respected publication like WSJ. Luka, of course, has completely changed the franchise's fortunes, and perhaps nothing illustrates that quite the same way as ESPN's Future Rankings, where without doing much other than swapping Anthony Davis for Luka (and not spending into their cap space), they vaulted from 21st last season to 8th. And let's be honest, most of that is just Luka. So how well set are the Lakers for the future, now that Dončić is under contract?  HOSTS: Andy and Brian Kamenetzky  SEGMENT 1: More good press for Luka!  SEGMENT 2: Did Luka fix LA's future?  SEGMENT 3: How well set are the Lakers?  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!5-Hour ENERGYEnough with boring, flavorless caffeine, it’s time to give your caffeine a flavor upgrade with 5-hour ENERGY®️ shots. Get the favorites you love or be bold and try something new in-store and online at https://www.5hourENERGY.com or Amazon today. OpenPhoneStreamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at https://www.openphone.com/lockedonnba Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNBA at https://monarchmoney.com/lockedonnba for 50% off your first yearFanDuelRight now, new customers can bet just FIVE dollars and if your bet wins—you’ll get THREE HUNDRED dollars in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the FanDuel app now by visiting https://FanDuel.comto get startedFANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everyone, welcome to Lockdown Lakers. For Wednesday, Brian Komeneski, Andy Kaminetsky, has Luca Donchage single-handedly fixed the Lakers future. ESPN says, yeah, basically, that's next. You are Locked-on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thanks to everybody for making Locked on Lakers.

First, listen to every day Monday through Friday, no matter how where you get your podcast. This one's always going to be free and never going to cost you a nickel. Locked on Liquors on YouTube is we're going to go hang out with over 36,000 subscribers, Andy, all of whom are leaving us questions and comments and mailbag items, which is particularly important at this time of year because, you know, we've got the time to answer. Although I will say, Andy, training camp.

It's so close. Like you can actually see it. It's not like we have to, you know, look out in the distant future and just beg and plead for the season to roll around. It's like the end of the month. They're going to get in a training camp. It's a real basketball to talk about. It is super exciting. Everybody is looking forward to this upcoming season with the Lakers,

including, most importantly, very outwardly, Luca Donchich. Yes, the revenge tour, so as it's being called, of Luca Donchich continues. We had the super viral story, Andy, earlier in the offseason with Luca on the cover of men's health. That was sort of the coming out, the unveiling, if you will, of skinny Luca, where everyone, it went from rumor to thing people could see with their very own eyes. And this profile is from Jason Gay, a longtime NBA writer now with the Wall Street Journal and the WSJ magazine, their long form publication that they put out.

it doubles as a fashion spread, which I do not think is irrelevant in terms of kind of diagnosing what's going on here with Luca. But there's plenty of really interesting stuff in it. But I'll start here, Andy. The fact that he continues to do this stuff, because Jason Gay points out, like, you know, this is, he has the look and feel of a guy on a revenge tour. Like he is setting up the Dallas Mavericks and anybody else who he can think of to bury them next season. And part of that to me is reflected in the fact that he has gone to men's health. He has been on Good Morning America. He is now in the Wall Street Journal.

These are not necessarily traditional outlets for a player and particularly one. who is not super aggressive in seeking out media profiles and all that kind of stuff in the way that Luca isn't. No, we, in our experience, and it's, you know, it is limited thus far because Luke has only been with the Lakers for half a season. But in interacting with him in media settings, he is very polite and professional. But his answers are typically pretty short in ways that don't so much reflect. rudeness as I'm going to give you a satisfactory answer in as few words as possible because this is just not my jam. I don't enjoy this. I don't particularly, I've talked about this before. Luca loves a spotlight. He loves a stage, which by the way, makes him very ideal to be that

next franchise face for the Lakers because there is no bigger stage in basketball and you could even talk worldwide sports than the Lakers. But he does not, I think, particularly like being a star in the sense of the famous part of it and losing, you know, anonymity. And the idea that he is front facing in all different ways with being famous. But as I've also talked about, he is very, clearly in message sending mode right now. And whether you are talking about the way that he has transformed his body, which Jason Gay in this piece talks about, look, I'm going to enter this with a skeptical eye.

And I'm going to be looking for signs that, yeah, Luca did some good work this. I'm not so much like he didn't believe it to me, but like it's the first thing you opened the story with like, everybody's asking me, is it real? Is it real? Is it real? So I'm going to check. Is it real?

Right. But I'm just saying, like, he even, there's a few times he mentions the idea of, I'm watching for all this. I'm watching for the way Luca conducts himself very clearly as somebody who knows I look good. I like how I look. I like how this presents. But whether you're talking about the transformation of his body, signing his extension, the very first morning that he could. He basically did it as early as he could while still having a press conference at an hour

that would be acceptable for the media. To like to get the type of crowd that very clearly he and the Lakers wanted the way he's played in Eurobasket, the Nike tour commercials. There is a let's eff and go that I think he

is sending to fans, to his teammates, to the franchise. I think in some ways to himself, because as the article also gets into, this has been an adjustment for Luca and something that even as he's excited about, he's still getting used to. But I don't think you can make any mistake. There is a, there is a psyched quality to the way Luca is approaching this upcoming season. Yeah, I think, and we'll get to that question of comfort because it comes up a few times that theme throughout the article.

And it's not wildly new stuff if you've been reading everything that's been said and written about Luca over the course of the off season. But it is interesting where some of the comments come from in contextualizing some of the adjustment that Luca had to make. But I think what you said before about a guy who is, you know, knows he looks better, knows he feels better and likes it. is actually it's not sort of a superficial thing. Like, you know, you don't sign up for fashion shoots if you're not feeling confident

about yourself. I mean, I'm not going to lie, I wanted some of those clothes. And I actually particularly like there's a shot in there that they use that I think is intentionally ironic of Luca wearing a lot of oversized clothes. Like, you know, very fashion forward, but like clearly baggy. And I don't, I don't think that's on accident in terms of an artistic choice. but like if you're thinking about sustainability for this sort of thing, his enthusiasm for the results and how,

not just how he's playing, because he had a great Eurobasket and all that kind of stuff, but just like walking around. He's 26 years old. It's like kind of like looking, you know, like a model, you know, all that kind of thing. If you're looking for ways to feel confident that this is going to be a lasting thing and not a one-season thing,

I actually think doing fashion shoots and all these other stuff, I think it matters. One of the things that I mentioned right off the bat because when Lucas started this transformation, we started in particular, the men's health, and there has been a reaction of, in particular from people who either are Mavericks fans

who have covered the Mavericks, some degree of skepticism with, yeah, Luca's done this before. Like, this is a pretty regular, thing. He goes back to Slovenia. He gets on more of a European diet and lifestyle. And all of this, by the way, has just been a damning indictment of American food culture and American consumption and just the processed crap that we put in our body in this country. But Luca does this every year. And then he does the very rare thing, maybe singular thing in the NBA, where he plays himself out

of shape and basically starts the season in better shape than he finish it. It's like a bizarreo Shaquille O'Neal. And one of the things, though, that gives me confidence about Luca maintaining this is that he has put himself out there so publicly showing off the revenge body, like showing a lot of leg, making sure that his ex sees this. like this is the equivalent of posting every 20 minutes on Instagram post post breakup, making sure that everybody your ex would ever see their thing is tagged, whatever. Like if Luca backslides by December or January, it will be humiliating for him.

Well, it really truly will be. And I think, and I think that help. He has to be aware that he has based. basically laid down the gauntlet for himself. Yeah, and I'll be honest. I'm not worried about December, January, things like that. I'm, I think the, the question, but that's typically the timeline of when you start seeing the backsliding.

I guess. Yeah, I mean, that's true. I mean, you know, I understand what you're getting at, but like, I'm not worried about it at all. I'm just saying that's typically when it happens. You know, context matters and this and that. Like, you know, it is, what's funny about it is like off season conditioning to your point. and we'll carry some of this through after the break.

Offseason conditioning and in-season conditioning are very different things. So people think, well, how could they possibly get out of shape or be in less shape during the season? It's because they're not working out nearly as much. Like they have their workouts, but guys are banged up. They try to keep them off their feet. They're sometimes not as intense. They really, once training camp is over, NBA players do not practice a ton.

And, you know, the games you're playing every other day, every two and a half days or whatever. So it's a different kind of maintenance. So we'll talk about that and then talk about some interesting comments from Adam Silver in this Wall Street Journal article. Plus ESPN's contention that Luca Donchich is essentially single-handedly saving the Lakers future, all that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Monarch Money.

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And there are people who think it's overblown. There are people who think it's unfair. Look at last year. He was hurt, whatever. But if you're in that camp, like say Nico Harrison, who of people who say this is something he's just not sustained.

You're right. We'll know next summer. We'll know next fall if Luca comes back and he doesn't look like he's carried this basic level of fitness and attention to his body through into next training camp. So that's a great point.

Real quick, just the idea, that this is unfair because it's overblown as a talking point or as a concept. I understand where a lot of the longtime Luca fans are going to feel that way. And I think you and I have been nothing but enthusiastic about Lucas' arrival with this team and what it means moving forward. Andy, I was happy to welcome Fat Luca. Right.

I'm happy to welcome Skinny Luca. Luca is welcome. We told either one of them is Adravo. but yes i gotta be on i i gotta be honest the notion that this is overblown is kind of ridiculous and we know this because if it was overblown lucca would not be making this big a thing of it like clearly lucca is sending a message that things are different because he's doing all of this if he didn't if he really felt like like do i think lucca thinks nico harrison and the Whisper campaign coming from Dallas is entirely fair towards him?

No, I don't. Like, because it clearly hurt him. And he also played all NBA level basketball, despite apparently his body being some ticking time bomb. But it doesn't change the fact that, A, he's acknowledged that there are things that have needed to change. Like, he's verbalized, vocalized this, but also, too, he wouldn't bother. doing all of this. If he was not acknowledging, yeah, there have been some changes made and changes necessary. And by the way, that's fine.

He's allowed to evolve. It's great. Camp Luca will, would say that this is a continuation and acceleration of a process that actually had started a couple seasons ago was really short-circuited last off-season. I mean, I think what makes all of this very, I think, probably hurtful to Luca is in part. It's like part of the reason last year was so challenging and that, you know, it was kind of as hurtful. It's because what he did the year before, he dragged, not dragged a team, was a pretty good team, but like he took a team to the finals playing more minutes than.

than anybody playing, you know, tons of games, putting up absolutely superhuman numbers over the course of that season, 33 points, you know, basically a 33 point triple double every night. And he was not given an opportunity because of the schedule, because of his commitments to Slovenia to heal. And then he comes to camp. He's not really in shape.

He gets hurt. It is by his standards, a lost season. But that said, in an alternate, universe where Luca does this last offseason as opposed to this off season. By the way, I don't like this universe because it means Luca is probably not a Laker. Because I don't think that the Mavs would have traded Luca if that habit. I will say this. If they still would have traded Luca because they didn't buy it or whatever, then every ounce of vitriol,

that Mavs fans aim at Nico Harrison is deserved times 10. But I mean, do you think that's fair to say if this had all happened last offseason, Luca would still be in Dallas? I would figure so, but I guess it's hard to say with 100%. The whole premise was based on, you know, Nico having this opportunity. And it is at least a defensible position that you could say, we're going to make a five-year commitment to a guy,

that is, you know, whatever. That is a too big a risk and not reliable enough. I don't agree. I wouldn't have done it. And I certainly don't think they got enough for him. But that's the premise. And the premise goes out the window if he looks like this last September. Look, I would think that they wouldn't do that had Luca had the same opportunity last

offseason to undergo this type of fitness level that he did this offseason, I'd like to think it wouldn't happen. But at the same time, I'd like to think that if nothing else, Nico and the new ownership would have had at least one come to Jesus type talk with Luca, which I know from asking Tim McMahon or asking like Nick Engstatt from Locked on Mavs, you know, reading other coverage of this, it does not seem like the Mavericks ever directly confronted Luca on this at all, if for no other reason than to try to save the relationship. There does feel to be, there does feel to be like some degree of distaste or resistance towards Luca from Nico and sort of like Lucas Camp, everything that comes with Luca.

Oh, very clearly Nico wanted it out. Right, right. I just don't think the out would have been available. Well, but I'm, my point, maybe they would have done it anyway. My point is if you want an out, if you really want an out, you will typically find it. You will typically invent it. If it's that important to you, it's funny. You mentioned Adam Silver, the comments in this Wall Street Journal profile.

There's a quote from him where he says, putting aside the merits of the trade, you could argue it was a bit of a kick in the ass to Luca. He didn't try to sugarcoat this trade. Another player would have said, oh, now I'm part of the Lakers' organization. He didn't try to hide his disappointment. I think he was a bit of a funk for a while because it was probably the first true professional setback of his career. And I was hoping personally for him that he would see this as an opportunity to reset. And first of all, it seems like he does, and that is great, even though Luca does acknowledge in this piece, he does not have full closure and full closure may not ever come to him.

But he is exciting. He is excited about it. What's really interesting about that quote is, first of all, it's very rare, if not unheard of, to hear a commissioner comment on the mental state of a player after a trade, because for the most part, that is, I think, kind of none of a commissioner's business. but also to hear a commissioner passive aggressively in so many words say, yeah, I don't know if I would have made that deal either,

but I guess Nico knows what he's doing. Yeah, I mean, what I thought was fascinating about that quote, though, and it's actually quite insightful, is this notion of how revealing it was that despite the fact, like, Dallas didn't trade him to, let's just use our favorite, you know, nightmare city. They didn't trade him to Charlotte.

What up, Doug Branson? Right. They didn't, you know, trade him to some NBA backwater where it's like, oh, my God. Like, not only did you, you know, embarrass him and say all these mean things, like, you sent him to a, like a terrible place. They sent him to the Lakers. and while he was, I think, appreciative of the opportunity and all these other things, he wasn't happy, whereas a lot of people being like, oh, wait, those guys screw them. I am like, and instantly would have put on a face of like, well, I'm with the Lakers.

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Interesting comment before we get back to just, you know, to what we were talking about in the last second interesting comment from the live chat from uh... Avenidaav Yehuda it has nothing to do with Luca being out of shape. They didn't, they meaning Dallas, didn't want to give him the supermax period. There,

I think is some truth to that. I think there is a lot of, of Nico just doesn't believe you can pay one guy, doesn't want to be the guy who is beholden to his superstar, having to pay someone 75, 80, 90 million dollars. in any given context. I definitely.

Not a guy that doesn't have a mama mentality, according to Nico. That's right. And I think there is probably some truth to that. Like on a philosophical level, he wouldn't have wanted, he didn't want to do it. And maybe even the, you know, had convinced ownership it was a bad idea.

But from a PR level, there's just no way to pull it off, I think. And I think the sensitivity to the, I'm sorry, what? Because remember, too, Lucas season is different. All of this is just, and if they do it anyway, particularly if they do it for the same result,

I just, I don't think you can get away with it. They really didn't get away with it. This, you know, even with the out that was constructed there, that was at least somewhat plausibly available. If you take that away, NICO just can't make that trade. It's like I said earlier, if you are looking. for an out. If an out is really what you want, you will find it even if it requires manufacturing the out. It's like if you are in a relationship, and this is a different form of relationship professional, but a relationship nonetheless, if you really want to get out of it, even though everybody

around you is like, dude, she's awesome, he's awesome, whatever. Like, what do you do it? If you really want to get out of that thing, you will find the reason to get out of it because at the end of the day, that's your MO. A couple other interesting and or hilarious quotes in this piece that want to get into before we get to the ESPN future rankings. First, LeBron offered a few quotes in this piece and said, this was the day after, by the way, it's noted in the piece, the day after Lucas signed the extension. quote, I just love the way he, being Luca, approaches the game. I love the way he plays the game.

More importantly, man, he's just a great effing guy. Then later says, big time savant of the game. I always use IQ as a measuring point in basketball, guys who can think the game. There are so many guys in our league that can play the game. But to actually be able to think the game as well puts you at another level. It's reflective of how we've talked about. the Lakers have, I think, the best playmaking duo in the league. I don't think there's a team in the league with two better passers,

playmakers, floor generals, orchestrators in the league, than LeBron and Luca. And that is in very large part because they're on the short list for smartest players in the league. They happen to be on the same team. I think it is also a reminder that while LeBron is obviously, not going to participate in a Wall Street Journal profile of his teammate to trash him because it's bad for both the upcoming basketball and LeBron's own optics. But it's a reminder that by all public accounts, public observations, private observations that we've heard, whatever issues

LeBron has right now with the Lakers and those points of tension, they are related to Luca, like in the sense that Luca's arrival instantly created a new hierarchy and prioritization for LeBron, a dynamic that I am guessing slash sensing slash it's pretty damn obvious. He doesn't like. But the issues are not about Luca. Like there's a very big difference. It's more about the way LeBron, I think rightly, feels that the Lakers now regard him in this era and the future, all that different stuff where he is now second in the importance.

But it's not about not wanting to play with Luca. Yeah. It's true. Is it a question of, you know, LeBron, you don't necessarily, for example, by the, you know, summer of 26, summer of 27, those kinds of reports of what the Lakers are, at least up until the last couple weeks, we're thinking about... Well, they saw Luke in Eurobasket,

and they were reminded that he's a good player, and that changes everything. We can go over that. My theory of this again, but we'll save it maybe for tomorrow. But clearly LeBron is at least concerned about it, because, you know, he doesn't have necessarily the summer of, after this summer like the next few minutes, who knows if he's going to play.

And it certainly doesn't know if he's going to be playing, you know, to where the summer of 27 will benefit him. He wants to do everything that is needed to win now. So even if he thinks those reports are half true or half possible or they're on the fence or whatever might be, he wants to get them off the fence. And I understand why. So it's a question of timelines. but I don't think it's ever really been credibly proposed that it had anything to do with Luca.

Before we go, though, I think you have to be a regular watcher, a diehard follower of the Lakers to feel like you were rewarded by this moment. among the people that are quoted in this story are LeBron, Adam Silver, and of course, Rob Polinka, who delivers just a fabulous Rob Polinka quote that again, if you're not a Polinkifai like the two of us and many of you out there, you might have missed it or might not think anything of it, but if you are a palinkophile, Andy, it made your day. Yeah, this quote from Rob Polinka. I liken his, he's being Luca.

I liken his skills to that of an illusionist. You almost have to be at the game to understand the magnitude of what Luca can do on the court. There are so many, did that just happen moments? Which, by the way, Rob is 100% correct about that. There are a lot of like, holy bleep, what did I just see? Like, similar to what we've seen many years with LeBron. You know, they're very similar players in that regard. So there's nothing wrong with the substance of what Rob said,

but the fact that he refers to Luca as an illusionist, as opposed to a magician, the word anybody else would use, like, for F's sake, one of Luca's nicknames is literally Luca magic. Of course, Rob has to bust out the higher vocab, like, never, never, Never change. It's the Wall Street. Never change. You can't just use a regular descriptor.

You have to bump it up because this is a very sophisticated publication with sophisticated readers. And he has been saving, I think, illusionist for a publication of this quality. Again, his nickname is Luca Magic. Like, in this case, the poor man's voice. vocab word actually plays perfectly. And again, just never change,

Rob. I mean, it's also not, it's not as good of a word because an illusion is a thing that you think is happening that isn't, whereas magic is something that kind of does happen. But either way, I am,

uh, I read that. That jumped out at you too, correct? Oh, God, I, I chortled.

It's so wonderful. I get, that got one of the, that, that, that, that, that, that may, I made a noise when,

when I read that for sure. It was it really made my day. Rauman Red Eye says, I bet he had the leather jacket on for the phone call. Actually, Luca in this profile makes, it's relay. He made a joke during the,

I don't remember exactly. It was regarding the press conference. Yeah, but I don't remember which presser Luca had is. I don't remember which presser Luca or Rob, was wearing the leather jacket because he's, he's been dressed to the nines for a couple of these. I thought it was the,

I thought it was the press conference, the signing, the extension, but it could be wrong. I can't remember if it was the, uh, introductory press conference or the extension, but he,

uh, made a joke asking Rob where his motorcycle was when Rob came out. So even, even Luca, uh, has had some fun at Rob's expense with by the way, boss when you're that good. I will say,

uh, all, Easy Rob jokes aside. It is a pretty badass jacket. I mean, it's a, I mean, look, you got to, he's a thin, you know, fit man, which helps if you're going to be wearing that sort of thing. But it's also a high quality leather, which he can afford. Oh, yeah. Fire.

When you have that kind of. Well, well, at least for now. For now. We are entering the Mark Walter era. So if nothing else, it would behoove Rob not to think that he can't get fired because that could. be the point where he does. Locked on Lickers on YouTube as we go hang out with over 36,000

subscribers in the channel. We'll get to this ESPN Futures Report, futures poll, future ranking for tomorrow. We will see everyone then. Thanks to everyone for joining the chat, hanging in with some technical difficulties that they experienced

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