Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Mark Walter Takes Over as Lakers Owner... What Does That Mean for Jeanie, Rob and the Lakers?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everyone, welcome to Locked on Lakers for Friday. Brian Komeneski, Andy Kemenetsky, the Lakers play tonight in Memphis, and they'll do it. Working for a new owner, the Lakers have been sold. We'll talk about it next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Thanks to everybody for making Locked on Lakers.

Starting point is 00:00:33 First listen to every day, Monday through Friday, no matter how you get your podcast, this one. It's always free. Never behind a paywall and locked on Lakers on YouTube. It's where you can hang out with almost 37,000 subscribers to the channel, Andy, all of whom are wondering what the future holds for the Lakers. Now that the sale, which you knew was coming, we knew that the sale from the bus family to Mark Walter and partners was on its way, but it happened a little quicker than people thought it was approved by the NBA's Board of Governors on Thursday, meaning the dawn of a new era tonight in Memphis, Friday night's game, the first in a long time

Starting point is 00:01:11 where the bus family was not the primary owner of the team. So we'll get to that in just a moment. But first, I need to tell you that today's episode is brought to you by Fanduel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if you bet wins, get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. head to Fanduil.com to get started. We've also got some updates on the potential availability for Luca Dantzich, whether tonight in Memphis or Sunday in Miami.

Starting point is 00:01:44 Sunday, Sunday, excuse me, Sunday. But that's actually, it's Miami at home, I believe. Yes, Sunday's game against the heat. We'll update you on that. But I think, Andy, the big news is that the Lakers are no longer owned primarily by the Buss family, Mark Walter, takes over as the

Starting point is 00:02:04 NBA's Board of Governors approves the sale. Yeah, it is not an overstatement to say that forget that this is a historical day, obviously, for Lakers' franchise history to put this in perspective. The last

Starting point is 00:02:21 time anybody not named Buss was the primary owner of this team, you got to you got to go back to the 70s. Like it has been a very, very long time. But it's not just a big day for Lakers franchise history. It's a big day for NBA history, for L.A. sports history.

Starting point is 00:02:41 I would go so far as to say, given what the Lakers mean globally, just sports history, period. As you noted, everybody knew this was coming, but it seems a bit ahead of what was initially anticipate and also. There was some belief that this could take, you know, into the winter, perhaps into the spring, just based on the NBA's calendar. And also, I think what took people, surprise might be overstating it, but certainly was like, oh, wow, like this is really moving along. It's not simply that the NBA board of governors, team owners, approved this major,

Starting point is 00:03:26 majority stake sale, it was that Mark Walter then turned around, bought the thing, and everything was concluded today. So it is truly like lock, stock and barrel. We are done from the Lakers press release. Mark Walter said, the Los Angeles Lakers quote, are one of the most iconic franchises in all of sports defined by a history of excellence and the relentless pursuit of greatness. few teams carry the legacy and global influence of the Lakers, and it's a privilege to work alongside Gini Bus as we maintain that excellence to set the standard for success in this era both on and off the court. Jeannie Bus statement from her, quote, over the past decade, I have come to know Mark Walter well, first as a businessman, then as a friend, now as a colleague. He has demonstrated time and time again his commitment to bringing championships to Los Angeles. and on behalf of Laker fans everywhere,

Starting point is 00:04:23 I am beyond excited about what the future has in store. And then we'll get into all of this, but this particular part of the Lakers statement definitely is worth piecing through. Quote, Jeannie Buss will remain governor of the Los Angeles Lakers and continue to oversee day-to-day team operations for the foreseeable future. Her continued leadership reflects Walter's view that professional sports are an unsurpassed global platform for inspiring performance. purpose and community.

Starting point is 00:04:52 The Lakers represent a cornerstone of that vision, and he believes in continuing with the winning leadership that has made the franchise a dominant force. So a lot of excitement being expressed by both Mark Walter and Jeannie Bus, and a lot to think about in terms of what comes next, including parsing language. Yeah, I mean, look, I think you can dive as deep into the tea leaves as you want, there will be change. The question, I think, just becomes how quickly

Starting point is 00:05:31 will it come? And in what for change? Right. And I think you can divide this up into two categories. The first one is the infrastructure around the team, stuff that costs money, that you build up, you know, anything whether it's, I mean, they got a pretty nice facility down in Elsugando. You know, they're not going to run out and build another one, but, you know, whether that means building up your training staff or if there's other things, places that money could be spent, if you need a bigger, you need three or four more people to help you with X, Y, or Z.

Starting point is 00:06:14 You and I both talked about over time the basketball operations staff is going, to increase in size. I think that is almost a given. Now, does that mean Rob Polinko won't be running it? It doesn't necessarily mean that he will. It doesn't necessarily mean that he won't. When Mark Walter took over the Dodgers, Ned Coletti stuck around in the role that he had for a couple years.

Starting point is 00:06:39 And he wasn't a governor, you know, or a gym. He was like the GM of the team. And so, yeah, I will see, I think, infrastructure changes relatively quickly. I think in terms of like how long genie bus is the, you know, the governor and, you know, in charge of day-to-day operations of the team, I think that's something that, you know, we'll see. Well, I will definitely see how long it lasts, you know, the foreseeable future is however

Starting point is 00:07:16 long one defines foreseeable and what that means to them. table that for a second. As far as Rob Polinka, the big thing that jumps out to me because I agree with you, I would be stunned if the front office remained as insulated as it has been, you know, traditionally, but under Jeannie's watch, and we both always felt that that is a combination of, I think maybe a quarter not wanting to pay more people, economics, whatever. 75% or more, Jeannie doing most of her hiring based first and foremost on personal relationship, personal trust, as opposed to professional acumen and keeping a very, very tight circle and

Starting point is 00:08:03 that comfort level that has been there for her. I just as I as I ascribe the size aspect of it more to Robb than Jeannie. And I subscribe, I subscribe Rob's ability to. make those sorts of decisions about what the department looks like to Jeannie. So, I mean, I don't think Jeannie necessarily objects to the idea of more people if she could find more people that she trusted and then that she felt comfortable with. I think it has been in Rob Polinka's best interests over the years to keep that department small. Oh, I don't disagree with you fair. And to keep the number of people who Jeannie trusts that are in her ear, so to speak,

Starting point is 00:08:51 or could be in her ear, relatively small and reasonably loyal to him. I don't disagree with you there. If you're asking, this is what I was getting to, we can debate how much this is Jeannie wanting it versus Rob wanting it. I think the answer is they both want it that way, just not for the same reasons. I'm not saying that Rob wants a larger staff and Jeannie's the one standing in the way. I completely agree with you. Rob wants as much unilateral consolidation of power as possible and has been very good at maintaining it.

Starting point is 00:09:29 I'm just saying I don't think Jeannie is inclined to expand the circle regardless of whether Rob wanted it that way or not. I think her inclination is always to keep everything tight because she bases a lot of things on personal trust, personal comfort level and does not like to stray outside that circle. And that includes how she hires in the first place. I don't expect that to happen under Mark Walter. And I would say that if Rob Polinka is not willing to play ball with more people, if not at his level or close to at his level and more diversity of opinion, more people that he has to convince for. his vision, whatever, I expect he will not be long for this ride. That would be the way I picture this happening. I don't think Rob is going to be able to maintain this type of structure under Mark

Starting point is 00:10:20 Walter, however long the foreseeable future is that. Definitely. I don't think they're not going to do anything this season. No, I agree. I agree. Is it going to look like this in three years, four years? No, I'd be stunned. When things change, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:36 But if the Dodgers model is, if Mark Walters, Walter wants to do this in any way resembling how he has had success with the Dodgers. Baseball to the NBA is not 100% apples to apples, but that said, the basketball ops department will get bigger. Well, and also, too, I mean, even if you think Rob Polinka is the best basketball ops guy in the league and just criminally underrated, doesn't get enough credit, he's the best guy the Lakers could possibly have. it's too big of a job and there's too much to handle and, you know, keep track of and you need more bodies to do this. There's no downside. Right. But I'm saying it's actually all upside just in terms of the actual logistics.

Starting point is 00:11:26 It is too much to handle for a front office this small. So that'll be great. But then there is also, and I think this is the thing that Lakers fans are also equally curious about. maybe even nervous about what is Jeannie's role moving forward in terms of governor and power and influence? Like what does this actually mean in tangible terms? So you know that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by Robin Hood.

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Starting point is 00:14:28 it's going to look like with her going forward. Well, I thought it was very interesting that in this statement, it was phrased as she will oversee day-to-day team operations for the foreseeable future, that is very different than how it was initially phrased in the reporting months ago with the sale. It was being reported in multiple outlets that Jeannie would be running day-to-day operations for the foreseeable future. I do not see overseeing operations and actually running them as the same thing. I, don't see, especially with, you know, team governor is in a lot of ways something that, function, a role that you can show up at team meetings, represent the team, which I think

Starting point is 00:15:15 Jeannie will be very good at doing. She's done that before. Jeannie is great with people in general. She is great with representing the Lakers and has done it well for decades. But as far as actually running things, which is the way it was originally phrased and then overseeing what is being run, I see it as a difference, especially when you really think about the idea that she's no longer the ultimate shot caller for this team. Yeah, I agree with the last part.

Starting point is 00:15:45 You know, she's ultimately, to me, she, Mark Walter and, you know, Todd Bailey, or I don't know exactly how to pronounce his last name, but I think it's either Bowler or Bailey. But he, they didn't pay $10 million, $10 billion, you know, to, uh, to, to let somebody else run the thing. And over time, and even really now, if Mark Walter wants to do something, if he wants a change to be made, if he wants X, Y, or Z to happen, then it's going to happen because he owns the team. The decision to keep Jeannie where she is is, is, one of stability. It's one of, you know, continuity. And quite frankly, it makes sense. If you were

Starting point is 00:16:45 going to hire someone, not to run the basketball operation of the Lakers, but if you were going to hire someone to run the Lakers as a business entity, nobody has a better resume for that than Jeannie. Because while people rightly, I think, sometimes question the basketball. ball product. Nobody questions the business product. You know, this is- By all accounts when Jeannie ran business ops during the, you know, during Dr. Bus's time with the team,

Starting point is 00:17:18 but during the Jim Jeannie split, by all accounts, Jeannie was excellent at it. Sure. And even in her time as, you know, the primary owner of the team, you know, the governor of the team,

Starting point is 00:17:32 the primary executor of, of, you know, these day-to-day operations, She's still, you know, the franchise itself is still an excellent hell. It's reflected in the valuation of the team. And so, like, I wouldn't expect that to change much because, you know, Mark Walter, while he's, you know, Walter's been part of the ownership fabric for a little while. It's not like they just, you know, dive bombed out of nowhere. And so he knows how Jeannie operates and he knows what's been going on.

Starting point is 00:18:08 And clearly doesn't feel like his investment is put at risk by allowing her to continue to oversee the operations of the team. I don't, I think you're probably reading too much into the difference between overseeing used in a press release and, you know, running, which is how people sort of talk about it in sort of the day-to-day reporting. Given the people that were reporting it in the beginning, I actually don't. I just, I don't, I don't into it. I think it's, to me, they're very specific words. But there's, there's decision making involved in oversight. There's like there's, there's, I don't see a lot of difference in those two things. They can absolutely mean basically the same thing.

Starting point is 00:18:54 And until I see evidence that, you know, like, oh, wait, known, she's doing oversight. She's not running things like that there actually is a difference between those two things. I'm going to assume that there's really not. I just think over time, even when Jeannie executes day to day, there's going to be somebody above her that says, we need to bend things in this direction. This is, you know, get here how you want to. But this is how I would like to do it. I want to expand this or push into that or whatever it might be.

Starting point is 00:19:31 ultimately she's going to be answering to someone that she didn't answer to before. And over time, that's just going to mean it's going to look different. Well, I think what most fans care about, and this is where I think the title, whether you want to say, overseeing or running is a difference with a distinction, without a distinction, whatever. What fans care most about is how this is going to affect the basketball. For sure. And Genie's involvement with the basketball when she was the ultimate shot caller, by her own admission was very minimal.

Starting point is 00:20:05 She was not involved with decisions. She obviously gave the final approval to big decisions, like Jeannie owns the Russell Westbrook mess, as much as all the principal characters own the Russell Westbrook mess because she is ultimately the one who signed off on it. She owns the mess with the coaching carousel that hopefully has stopped with JJ Reddick. Like these are all her things that part of basketball she owns,

Starting point is 00:20:31 even if she's not heavily involved with the decisions, that's not going to change moving forward, because by Jeannie's words, not mine, she does not consider herself qualified to do that stuff. I sometimes think she might be selling herself a little short because she has watched a lot of basketball over decades. Yeah, I get what she said. Whatever, I'm not looking to debate that.

Starting point is 00:20:52 No, but I actually think that is a strength of hers to recognize that she doesn't. No, of course. I'm just saying I bet she knows more about basketball than she sometimes lets on. That's all my sense. Yeah, sure. I believe that. And then in the meantime, the ultimate calls are going to be made by Mark Walter. And whether you would typically expect that from a governor at, you know, these league meetings or not. Like, Jeannie having the role of governor does not change that because at the end of the day,

Starting point is 00:21:24 she's not the majority stakeholder. She's not a majority owner. So from Laker fans' perspective, I don't think you need to. worry about this. She and Mark Walter have a good relationship. She wouldn't have sold the team to Mark Walter if she were not comfortable with him. I don't expect the transition to have any issues at all. But for the piece of this that fans care most about, it truly will not be a problem. No, I don't think so at all. I mean, I think ultimately this would be a good thing. Yep. It's, you know, big change is not going to happen fast. I don't think. And,

Starting point is 00:22:01 And if the team performs, we may not see massive changes, you know, to the roster of decision makers very fast. So it may not happen. Like if the team performs, you know, people will keep their jobs. But yeah, I do think it's just she's not the boss. Right. She's not. Like, you know, she is the A CEO. She's, you know, whatever, but she's not the boss.

Starting point is 00:22:40 She's not the owner of the business. She is not the board. She has someone over her now in the flow chart. And that I don't, that's the part to me when you read the stories about, you know, we'll be the governor and run the team for the foreseeable future that I just don't. I don't find to be 100% truthful in the framing just because definitionally it cannot be the same unless Mark Walter just as an absentee owner. Right. But I guess maybe that is why I think the language matters.

Starting point is 00:23:18 Running things makes it sound confusing. Overseeing things to me makes it much more clear. Yeah. I don't see the difference. But I understand it. Hey, we arrive at the same place. How close is Luca to being able to play? We'll tell you next.

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Starting point is 00:24:35 would be evaluated again in a week. And I think a lot of fans were like, hmm, it doesn't sound bad, but I'll believe it when I see it. Because fans have built up a bit of mistrust for the powers that be over time. That, in fact, seems to be about what, you know, apparently the timeline here looks like it was fairly on

Starting point is 00:24:59 because Luca is being listed as questionable for Friday night's game. against the Grizzlies in Memphis. And whether that means he plays or not, he's going the correct direction in the progression to get back on the floor from out to, hey, he might play. So if he doesn't play on Friday, you would expect there to be a pretty reasonable chance

Starting point is 00:25:25 he's on the floor against Miami Sunday. Yeah, Marcus Smart also is listed as questionable for Friday's game in Memphis. This is me purely speculating, but if I had to ballpark or guess, I would bet on Marcus Smart playing before I would bet on Luca playing just because Smart had been trending in that direction earlier than Luca. Smart was questionable and then downgraded a doubtful for Wednesday's game. Right. But at least he had been on the injury list as questionable to that point. Right.

Starting point is 00:25:58 So I am hoping that maybe a couple extra days would be all that's not. needed and Marcus could be available Friday in Memphis, A, where he will definitely help the team being an additional ball handle of the team. We've been through this. Austin Reeves has been awesome, but I think he could use and would appreciate a little more help. Plus, Marcus Smart Revenge Game, perhaps, Memphis. He did not particularly enjoy his time there, nor did the fans seem to enjoy it any more than he did. Also, Yovon Buha, friend of the show on Buhas Block. said that he got a sense. I want to make it very clear.

Starting point is 00:26:35 He is not reporting anything. This is just a sense that he was feeling that things were trending, if nothing else, towards Luca playing on Sunday. That he was reasonably confident, again, reporting nothing, but just reasonably confident that Luca could make a return on Sunday versus the heat, which would, again, keep things more or less along that week timeline. You missed a week and the, you know, makes the week's worth of games out from Friday to Friday, and you're back the Sunday following.

Starting point is 00:27:08 I think all things consider, particularly since the Lakers, Andy, have won two of these games. You'd look at and be like, I can live with that. You know, for this game on Friday. Oh, my God. It could be, they play six times in nine days. Like, this could be a disaster. What if he, you know what? You end up basically playing 500 ball for that, you know,

Starting point is 00:27:33 a four-game stretch where Luca isn't there, beating a couple decent teams in the process. I don't think anybody's going to argue with that. Yeah. Also, we did not get into this, but a couple days ago, the Lakers assigned a due Thero to South Bay. And that is significant because it signals a return to five-on-five workouts.

Starting point is 00:27:58 He has not quite, I believe, gotten to. full contact yet, but Mike Trudell from Spectrum Sportsnet reported that he is getting closer. J.J. Reddick is very excited by the potential, and we're still very, very early in this process, but the potential that Addu Thero brings in terms of athleticism and energy and defense and just the way that he plays. I remember we had Mike Garcia, Canyon driver, a very, very good evaluator of college talent, he was incredibly excited that the Lakers managed to trade up twice in the second round to get Thero. He is extremely high on his potential. And also, too, there's something we've talked a lot about, Brian, like that infusion of athleticism, if not necessarily this season,

Starting point is 00:28:52 but certainly in the nearish future for the Lakers, like Thero is even by elite NBA standard. a sick athlete. Even though those guys are impressed by him and they're not necessarily going to be impressed by every impressive athlete that rolls into the gym. It's also worth pointing out like part of what is the calculus here is the G League folks are actually now just opening up training camp. So they will be practicing significantly more than the Lakers, will be. And so by

Starting point is 00:29:32 being assigned to the G League team, it gives the Arrow a chance to really, probably, like, it may, like you said, it may be still a little bit of time before he is doing everything with that group, you know, full speed, full contact, full, you know,

Starting point is 00:29:48 full scrimmages and stuff like that. He's, it is a sign that he is ramping back up. You sort of hope that, at least I sort of hope that we don't see him with the Lakers much unless it's in that sort of one of two scenarios. The first is, man, the Lakers are really blowing out a lot of teams. And it's a home game.

Starting point is 00:30:18 And Theero doesn't have to miss G-League opportunities to be there. Like, you know, he's young. He can play, you know, play a G-League game the night before and sit on an NBA bench the next day and play three minutes. So like, you know, garbage time stuff, good goods for the Lakers. Or everybody's just so damn surprised by how advanced he is. I think that is a, is an unlikely thing. He is an extremely raw prospect on like sort of the NBA level.

Starting point is 00:30:49 People think he can evolve into an excellent defender. And he's got good defensive instincts. But as an offensive player in the NBA, beyond anything. but get out on the wing. No, his range is the rim. His range is the rim. Do not expect Adieu Thierro to be a contributor this year. No, but here's what I think, though, is interesting with Thero.

Starting point is 00:31:11 We've talked about how this period where the Lakers have been down, a lot of players, has exposed issues with the back end of the bench. To be fair, a lot of teams, most teams cannot play one through 15 confidently, but the lack of readiness 11 or 12 through 15 and with the two-way guys becomes a problem when you're missing for players in the rotation. It's why Dalton Connect, his last game and a half is really important. It's not just about reestablishing Dalton's value both for this team and maybe around the league in a trade.

Starting point is 00:31:49 It's they need somebody who can help with that in mind. if Thero can be put on the court for six minutes, seven minutes, and things don't collapse, that would be useful if nothing else until we start getting everybody back. Like it would be helpful if you could just put them out before a couple short stints without things really going sideways. I don't. I'll tell you what would worry me about that is that would mean to me, because I don't think he's anywhere close. I don't think he, you know, I don't think he is going, is expected to be

Starting point is 00:32:30 full speed and like fully cleared much more meaningfully before LeBron would be. And so, you know, Lucas should be back in the lineup. LeBron should be back in the lineup and all that kind of stuff. If, if those, if you need to do Thierro to play for you, it probably means LeBron has been much slower getting back than I would like, like, and I would like, and I wouldn't even like it would be great if the arrow can do that um it would be found bunny i still think that is way beyond what anybody should expect it is not something the team would or should you know put down as a as a potential possibility i just i it'd be great but i i i would never I expect that to be in case I'm not making this perfectly clear, I'm not expecting it either.

Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm not even offering cautious optimism about it. I'm simply saying having him available as a live option, particularly with the guys that are hurt, depending on when he actually can be put on the floor, just purely from a health perspective, he could be out there in that interim and help for seven minutes. that could be helpful. That's all. Again, I am not in any way predicting that it would be possible. Either way, though, that infusion of athleticism, you and I, a couple days ago,

Starting point is 00:34:00 were trying to think of the last time the Lakers had a young player, like really young, with that type of upper-end athleticism. And I didn't have rosters in front of me, but the first guy that popped to minding me was Shannon Brown. and I'd like to think that between 2009 and 2025, there's been somebody else. But the fact, though, that nobody else immediately came to mind speaks to how this has been something lacking for the team.

Starting point is 00:34:30 Well, I mean, look, I mean, the Lakers, when they were terrible. They didn't have, you know, there was not good teams. But, like, you know, when they went through the dark period where everybody was, you know, 18 to 22 years old, like they'd some dudes who could bounce around the floor. But yes, it has been a team that has generally trended away from athleticism in that way for a while. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens tonight in Memphis against the Grizzlies team that's, you know,

Starting point is 00:34:58 John Morand is healthy and playing well. And Jaron Jackson Jr., they got a couple young players that people like. And we'll see what. Cedric Coward is a player that traded up to get him, I believe. So they liked him in the draft. They like him now. Not an easy game for the Lakers. We'll see how it goes.

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Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Mark Walter Takes Over as Lakers Owner... What Does That Mean for Jeanie, Rob and the Lakers?

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