Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - The Lakers Know Game 5 Vs. Minnesota Is Like Game 7, With No Room for Error

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Wednesday is technically Game 5, but for the Lakers, it's Game 7, 1.0. Win, and they get another chance at another Game 7 on Friday, in Minnesota. Tuesday in El Segundo, from JJ Redick to Luka Dončić on down, the team expressed confidence it could still win the series. The belief in themselves, the talent, their stars and anything else athletes use to forge that belief is genuine. Tonight, it's win a game on their home floor, where they've dominated all year. It's clean up sequences at the end of quarters, and especially the fourth. But the idea they've been thoroughly outplayed by Minnesota isn't accurate. The Wolves have been better when it matters most, but not in a way the Lakers can't counter. Counter three times in a row? That's a different question. But the Lakers are determined to make sure that Wednesday isn't about winning three straight games, but winning one. That's it. Win one game.  HOSTS: Andy and Brian Kamenetzky SEGMENT 1: The Lakers believe, even while understanding the hole they're in.  SEGMENT 2: Is the confidence warranted?  SEGMENT 3: What needs to change?  Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Amazon Fire TV Stick 4kDid you know your Fire TV is also an Xbox? Turn any TV into your gaming and entertainment hub with Fire TV Stick 4K devices — no console required. Head to Amazon.com/firetvlockedon to get started. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription and compatible controller required.CarGurusBuy or sell your next car today with CarGurus at CarGurus.comto make sure your big deal is the best deal.  WayFairAfter the holiday hustle, there’s nothing like giving your home a little TLC. Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONNBA at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNBA for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everyone, welcome to Lockdown Lakers for Wednesday. Brian Komenetsky, Andy Kaminetsky, Game 5 tonight at the Crypt. The Lakers are on edge. It's basically game seven. Can they extend this series back to Minnesota? That's next. You are Locked on Lakers. Your daily Los Angeles Lakers podcast, part of the Lockedon Podcast Network,

your team every day. Thanks to everybody for making Locked on Lakers first listen to every day, Monday through Friday, no matter how, where you get your podcast. This one's always free and never behind paywall. Locked on Locked on Lakers. Lakers on YouTube is where you can go hang out with over 35,000 subscribers to the channel, Andy, all of whom are wondering whether or not the Lakers can push this series back to Minnesota for what is technically game six, but will be the second game seven for the Lakers.

They need to win three of them to get out of the first round, pull off the three-one comeback. I want to let everybody know that today is, today's episode's brought to you by Game Time, download the GameTime app, create an account, use code, locked on NBA, $20 off your first purchase. Needless to say, Andy, you were down in El Sigundo on Tuesday afternoon. The Lakers practicing ahead of tonight's game. They are certainly aware of the predicament that they're in. They will be treating game five like it's game seven, which makes sense because they treated game four like it was game seven. So why let up now?

I guess so. I mean, and for what it's worth, Brian, obviously, referencing J.D. Reddick's decision to play all five of his second half starters, all 24 minutes, something. We're not going to go round three of our debate about this decision. But I did ask Jay J.J. I would like to point out, J.J. Reddick agreed with me. Yes. And he is the head coach of an NBA team knows more basketball than you will ever

forget. If forgets more basketball, you'll ever know. And he thinks I came down on the right side of this debate. Yeah, you, you, JJ and Mrs. Reddick are the only people. Well, Mrs. Reddick probably thought, what the bleep is he doing? But she's, she's made off the record. Sources close to the situation. Granted permission to speak with anonymity. Sources close to the situation said my husband lost his mind. But I have. I got a NBA head coach on my side. I did ask though, JJ, just because this is something I brought up, the idea of trying to message to Jared Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent, Jordan Goodwin, the three guys that typically would be playing at some point in the second half that this should not feel like the glaringly obvious lack of confidence in them. and just basically what you do as a coach to try to avoid that.

He said, quote, yeah, I spoke to everyone yesterday that would have potentially played in the second half. They all understood it. There was no issue with that. JJ was to be, I guess, clear in all of this. He was pretty short with most of his responses. He was obviously very dialed in and I don't blame him. And he did not go into details in terms of what he told them. I didn't expect him to.

I don't even think he needs to. I just thought, given how much I've harped on this, it's only right that I ask him about it. Yeah, and I think that's the, while I feel like preserving the trust, confidence, feelings, however you would phrase it, of those guys, is the least important reason to play them in that situation? It is exactly 100% the right things you do to talk to them about it after the game.

I also have the mental image of him like Alex Lenn sitting next to those three on the bench. After he's like, look, guys, you know, it's not personal or whatever. And it kind of just, and Len's like, and he just, JJ just keeps walking past him. It's like, no, you. That was personal. Like, you're not playing either. Like, this is, they obviously, you know, it's an elimination game. It is, finally we've reached the, it's a must win.

And, you know, it's what I always find interesting about these sorts of situations. We'll get into, you know, what needs to change. And they talked a lot about fourth quarters. on Tuesday afternoon with good reason. And all of this is how athletes routinely find the way to get themselves into a place of belief. And you see it with quotes from Luca, from AR, from JJ, from, you know, and it runs the gamut. from, you know, we had leads. We're right there in these games.

It's a couple adjustments away. We've got, you know, we're on our home floor. LeBron has done it before. I think it was Ruey's like, or it might have been DFS who said, like, I've seen LeBron do this. So like you have confidence in your guys to be able to say, like when LeBron says you can come back from a 3-1 lead, it's not theoretical. It's, I've done this before. It can be done.

And so that to me is, you know, where they are. It feels like they are in the mental space that they need to be in, not trying to win three in a row, trying to win one game three times, all of that stuff. So at least that part, I feel like they're in the right spot. It felt to me at least like in hearing JJ and Luca and Austin,

the three people made available to us today at practice, that it was a good combination of what felt like sincere confidence in, sincere confidence in what they're trying to do, but sincere awareness of the magnitude of what they're attempting to do, and therefore no, seriously, our margin for error is non-existent, and that is part of treating this like Game 7, not just like the knowledge of if you lose this game, the season's over, but, like, heightening the stakes ahead of time.

For example, Miami on Monday was faced with a game seven situation where if you lose and they go home. I'm not sure they were as concerned about attention to detail. Right. Not every team treats it the same. No, I think these guys, the games have been largely close enough or at least close enough through large spans of these games that they feel like they can hang with this team. therefore I don't think they've given up on themselves in their ability to do this, but I think they are also aware, painfully aware, I think that they do not have, beyond the fact that they are down 3-1,

they don't have the same margin for error against Minnesota because Minnesota has consistently outplayed them. So until they can hopefully extend this series and even out those margins to where they are more consistently outplaying Minnesota, which would, I guess, constitute truly shifting the momentum in this series, they have to treat. Austin talked about this, how they have to treat every single possession with a high degree of importance. I also could not help but think about hearing JJ and Austin and Luca talk about treating this game five as a game set. I really wish they had treated game one as game seven because, man, did they go into that one nonchalant? It's a great point.

Like, you know, and, you know, we don't need, we'll get back into the, you know, the rest of the series. But like, you know, in terms of like talking about JJ Redick and learning curves and mistakes and this, that, whatever, honestly. And both, you know, the idea of like, let's get our guys off of their feet. Let's extend, you know, because LeBron had a one to two week injury. I'm not sure if they'd gone in scrimmage, LeBron would have participated in that. But also, LeBron's probably the guy who needs to participate in it the least to be ready to play playoff caliber, playoff physicality. Like the decision in game four, which obviously you didn't like, I love it, but I'm like, I get it and I was okay with it. And JJ was sticking up for it on Tuesday is a much different kind of decision than the decision.

that they made over the course of the week on how to prepare for game one. It's all part of the same kind of learning curve. I'm not even sure those are rookie mistakes. No. But they're just, you know, they're, you know, I happen to think that, you know, if this game four was a, I don't think it's a colossal mistake. It's right, you know, you are faced with a bunch of really difficult decisions, none of which have obvious, like this is the obvious way to go.

And you can say the same thing about how you prepared for game one. But the thing is now, it's not just in Reeves, and we'll get to this when we get back, it's not just Reeves plays better. It's not every possession has to be. Every decision JJ makes in this game has to be, not in game five, start with game five, and then hopefully game six and hopefully game seven. They all have to be, he's got almost about a thousand. It's also interesting just to, before we go to the break, but just to bring back that idea of, you know, they largely took the week leading up to game one pretty easy.

Like, you know, they did work and they did a little process, but they did not go hard by design because they were prioritizing rest over recreating live game atmospheres as much as possible. that clearly did not create the right mentality for game one. There was a shorter break in between game one and game two. They went pretty hard the day before game two, and we can all agree game two, they came out with the right physicality, right mentality. JJ was asked about whether the idea of, I got the impression that they went pretty hard during Tuesday's practice,

like the idea of whether that could carry over in the same way for game five, positively like it did in game too. And JJ basically said, I don't even know because the context now is so different. Absolutely. So to your point, all of these decisions now become magnified and really, really tense. And we just look at the results and decide if they were good. Plenty more to get into what does need to change for the Lakers.

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I don't want to say, fool themselves into believing they can do things that are, you know, unlikely at the very least. But you have to talk yourself into it. You have to believe it. And there's only been one time, to quote George Costanza, it's not a lie if you believe it. Believe it.

That's right. You know, I think it's like Candide or something, Voltaire's like the character who always talks about the best of all possible worlds. Like that's where the Laker, that's where athletes always are, no matter what you are. You are always find yourself, you know, you know, it's good not to have time off before the playoffs because it keeps you sharp. if you're the number one seed God, we love having all this time off before the playoffs.

Whatever it goes. There's one time that I did not believe players when they said, we think we can do it. And it was when I was in Dallas, when the Lakers in the 2011, in 2011, when they were down 3-0 to the Mavs. And you go to practice. And the next day, and they're all, you know, we,

yes, we can do this. You know, we won a lot of games. We would know how to win, but but by the b b b b b b b b b b brammere didn't believe a word of it and um the results were clear the next day they got under bineham got ejected lamar oto got ejected they got their ass kicked they lost by 8,000 points and it was obvious from the get go that they were done this team was they were fried the run was over it was great run but it was i didn't it was just sitting there looking it's like i do the first time in my life i do not believe an athlete when he says

I think I can do this. We can do this. One other time that I recall, a team you and I were covering, when not the 2006 team, the one that ultimately end up losing that 3-1 first-round lead to the Sons, I think that team, while it was surprising they were up 3-1, I think they genuinely believed in themselves. And while they had some bad luck, I think Phoenix was ultimately the better team and Water sought out its own level.

the next year, and that was the season right before in the playoffs right before Kobe demanded a trade, the Lakers were also down 3-1 in that series, and guys across the board talked about how they could get back into us. And you and I said at the time, they don't believe a word they're saying. I didn't believe them either. I was not buying. Well, for the most part, you are right. But my point telling, Dad, what was the point of that story? I believe the Lakers when they say that they believe they can come back.

And I think they understand they've put themselves in a very deep hole. But I do think the confidence in their ability to do this thing is justified, whether it's because, like, you know, I think again, I think it was DFS after the game. It's like, you know, I've seen LeBron do. Like, you know, whether it's confidence in the players, that you have on your team and knowing that they whether it's we've got to win tonight got to win one game on our home floor we've been great

at home all year we can win game five you know and then we'll figure out games whatever it is and then you can go well we had a 10 point lead going to the fourth quarter in game four we had a lead in the fourth quarter in game three we have to figure out how to play the last five minutes of every game and this is not a new problem for the later actually let me take it one step further just because it was something that both, I know Austin and I think Luca brought up as well, it's not just the idea of the last 12 minutes of a game or the last five minutes of those last 12 minutes.

Austin definitely Luke, I believe as well, brought up the idea of closing out quarter strong. Yes, that's a great point. Yes. That they need to be better at that. They have not been closing out any quarter on a consistent base as well. and that has often come back to bite you in the ass because those first, second, and third quarters, you don't close out well. They dictate your setup going into the fourth quarter. And what was the distinction about game two was that they,

every time you thought Minnesota was going to make that little push, and the Lakers pushed back, and they kept, they maintained that distance. So if the Lakers can be 15% better, not easy to do against Minnesota, but if they can, can you be 15%? percent better at the end of quarters at the end of games. Look, I mean, LeBron, for all the talk of, you know, JJ good or bad choices in game four or whatever, LeBron and Luke are playing 45 minutes

in this game. Reeves is probably going to play pretty close to 40, you know, 42, 43, 44 minutes. Like these guys are all playing really big minutes. Consecutive? Possibly. I'm not, I'm not discounting the possibility. I mean, doesn't JJ want to keep making history in doing historic things? I am, so I mean,

can you be 10% better, 15% better? Will that be enough? You know, can Austin, if Austin Reeves can play like he did down the stretch and be better than Randall and be better than Jaden McDaniels

and, heck you could even you know the the gober stands could be arguing that gobert is outplayed rebe's you know very apples and a very apples but maz reeds potentially has possibly you know minute on a per minute basis these are not crazy I'm not talking about like the lakers need to get 20 points from dFS 18 points from Gabe vincent and whatever they need lebron to be lebron They need Luca to be Luca, and they need AR to be AR. Like, we'll start, I will start with that. I don't think, if I'd guess, three games of that probably isn't going to be enough

because I think there'll be a game in there where Minnesota is able to counter it because that's their really good team. But I'm still willing to go back to the original formula of those three guys need to be those three guys, and that can be enough to win. games. Well, I mean, ultimately, hasn't happened yet. I was going to say, and we'll talk about this more, but ultimately, you have to go to that because if that doesn't happen, short of the best defensive display this team has maybe had all season or say Rui going off for 35 or 40 or I don't know, Luca goes off for 60. If it's not those three as your foundation, the odds of winning this game and

extending the game six just feel incredibly small. Right. Because it was, I mean, and this gets to, we talked about it for Tuesday's show, what's the balance between player performance, coaching choices, and roster construction? Because we all knew it was going to be a little dicey with the center position. And it's been worse than expected. It's been worse than hoped. Although, although.

Oh, okay. Maybe a little surprise coming up. Is the cavalry on its way? Their cavalry. Talk about that coming up next. Locked on Lakers is brought to you by game time. There is nothing like the atmosphere of an NBA playoff game. Every bucket, every defensive stop, every moment feels huge,

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you check in on the Injure Report every single day to find out who might be available for the Lakers. Who's riding in on his vibres show? How do you say white in German? Vice. Weiss Schemel, his white horse. But Maxi Claiba, he has been upgraded to questionable. Maxi Claibah has been upgraded to questionable.

And J.J. Reddick said during practice that the game five starting five, TBD, do the math people. Like, you thought it was crazy that JJ played the same five guys for 24 straight minutes? JJ's like, eff it, man. I'm going down with their dude, Maxie. That's my guy. All kidding aside, I would be surprised if Maxi Claiba is active for this game. But if the Lakers can manage to extend this series, I don't know how close Claiba is. from questionable to probable to active.

What's the difference between Fraklick and probable? I don't know. But the closer we get to Maxi Kleba being available to actually play, the closer I think we might actually be to Claiba potentially getting five, seven minutes maybe because my God, at this point, they're out of centers. I mean, Jackson Hayes, I would be. stunned if he's still in the starting lineup. I'd actually be shocked if he played. By the way,

I hope that, you know, if not for this year, certainly going into next year. Andy, you know, we've tried very hard. Andy's worked, um, to his credit, to work work very hard and to become fluent in, in Slovenian as he has. He actually took German in high school and college. So like, all you know, one year in college, but that's, that's in college. I didn't say, and I didn't even say you did well. I didn't. But you took it. And so like all you Maxi Kleber stands out there that followed us over from Lock on Mavs because you go where Maxi goes and he's ready for you. So the gates.

The gates people. How are you? Elboggin means elbow. It's my favorite German word. So I think that I, this is the thing about that that makes this so stupid. If you keep, like, do I think the Lakers are going to win this series? No, I don't. Do I think they're going to win game five? Yes, I do. And by the time we get to game six, because generally speaking, I'm like, yeah, I think they're going to win. This is a team that since they showed they were pretty good,

unless they were playing like the jazz or somebody like that, because that's been something, they're like, you know, these terrible teams that they constantly seem to lose to. Every time they've played like big games against good teams, I'm like, do you think they're going to win?

Yeah, I think they can win this game. So like I, I still come back to. They've got Luca, they've got LeBron. Austin Reeves has only sort of one direction to go. And they just need to be better.

They need to be faster. Like, you know, Minnesota has done a great job of slowing them down. Like literally, ball pressure, making it take two seconds longer, three seconds longer to get into an offense. Whatever it might be. Like, the Lakers got to figure that stuff out. Move and it's hard to do that three games in a row. Right, but I feel like the formula is right in front of them. Move effing faster.

Like, treat this with more urgency. I mean, like some of this is get into your sets quicker. Move with more purpose. Like if you are taking the court, if you're taking the ball up court, whether it made basket, whatever, and you're approaching half court and you see that we're at like 17, like move your ass like get going quicker the longer you spend piddling around dribbling the ball giving a defense that is already really good already really matches up well against you more time to set and then on top of it less time for you to actually move the ball and try to create some type of advantage like

This is one of those when we talk about, you know, as LeBron said, control the controllables. As much as I know ball pressure has at times been an issue, I think particularly for Austin, there are also times where I'm like, you guys are creating your own problem here. How about one humble suggestion? Two-minute report, by the way, came out right after we finished recording Tuesday's show. I asked Luca about this day. He had the right answer, which was like, it's, you know, game's over.

What do you, you know, it sucks, but what are you going to do? You know, and I bring that up not because like we need to rehash it. The NBA messed up. It was a very consequential call. If they didn't hold my beer, the Pistons Knicks game, it would probably be a bigger controversy than it already is. One thing that might have made that play not happen is if the Lakers could do a little bit better job of when you see Jaden McDaniels or guys like that putting, you know,

you know, full court, three quarter court ball pressure on a guy bringing the ball up. Set a screen. Come back and set a screen to get the guy loose and let him across the floor. Little, just make things easier for people. Move with urgency. Do stuff like that to give your guys a chance. Side note, side conversation. We don't have to go deep down the rabbit hole.

because we're not going to land on the solution in the next three or four minutes. But inbounding has been a problem for this team all season. They cannot let, like forget the quality of the actual ATO or whatever. They can't just land on a halfway decent inbounder on a regular basis. Well, I mean, look, and like, who do you feel confident? You feel confident with LeBron. And like, that was a challenging setup that they had there where they had to get the ball over half court. But even LeBron's had some wonky inbound.

Yeah, but it was it was a bad pass thrown to a guy making a soft approach to the ball. Like, Luca kind of came to the ball like it was, I don't know, late December. And they were in, I don't know, Orlando. I mean, like, or he was exhausted one of the other. I don't care. I'm not saying I care. I'm just saying you cut to the ball. Sure.

I just, you know. I'm not excusing it. You know, and that I don't know a minute and a half earlier in the fourth quarter meant he would have been coming any faster to that ball. Like that kind of stuff like needs to be fixed. Like they are not, but the problem is like obviously if they could do all those things, if they could execute better the fourth quarter, if they could, you know, make those inbound

place. If they could get the key baskets that Minnesota's been getting all series and all that stuff, if they were, could do that consistently against the wolves, they'd be up 3-1 themselves or they'd be tied to 2 or whatever. They wouldn't be down 3-1. It's the inability to do those things. But that said, they're fully capable of it. Like, I believe in this team to come back a whole lot more than I did like the Lakers against Denver last year, for example.

You meant, and not to beat the fourth quarter energy issue into the ground even any further, but you mentioned like the idea of, you know, someone needed to set a screen on that inbound play. Like over the course of that fourth quarter, and it's not like it's the first time this has happened. There was very little action period. Like there was nothing happening on the floor. And again, as much in three of in Reddick talked about it. Part of his defense for like his choice was it's not like you can say that we've been awesome in fourth quarters and oh my God, then we went into the tank. It's like we scored whether it was 32 and 19 or whatever it was.

Like we've been in that ballpark for all the entire series. Our fourth quarter performances have been terrible. It's either like 105 or 106 to 59 or 69 or 69, but that is the margin that the wolves have outstead. scored the Lakers in the fourth quarters. And really it's, it is more of, I think you would agree, an offensive issue than a defensive. Like if you divide up, if you divide that up and the wolves are on average scoring, say, 25, 26 per quarter, you can live with that. Like in 2025 NBA, like obviously you'd love to put the clamps.

You'd love to put the clamps down for like a 17 point. fourth quarter and I know it's possible because the Lakers keep having it happen to them. But that's not the most realistic goal, but you have to be able to approach 100 combined points over four fourth quarters or you're not going to win games. And not run an offense in a way that makes it harder to play defense. Like in game two, part of the reason they were successful is because when they made mistakes, when they like they were balanced mistakes, their turnovers weren't open to. floor or open play like all that stuff like so i what do you think i think do you think there's going to be

a game six i do make your hand if you think it's going to be a game six i think they're going to win this game five slash game seven i think it's going to happen i do i'm not i'm making no more promises or predictions for the rest of the series but i do think they are going to win game five slash game seven tonight um all right lock the lakers on youtube is we can go hang out with uh 35 000 plus uh we of course will be back after this. I'm sure. We're going to speak it into existence like LeVar Ball, game five victory.

And fingers crossed, we'll see everyone after the game.