Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Without Luka, LeBron (40 Pts), Reaves (32) Fuel Lakers' 110-102 Win Over Trail Blazers

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Starting point is 00:00:54 impressed with the level of effort the Lakers put out in a 110, 102 win over Portland up in Portland on Thursday evening. I do want to let everybody know before we get into the details here that today's episode is brought to you by Fandual

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Starting point is 00:01:25 that caused him to miss so much time with the Mavericks. No Jared Vanderbilt also sitting out because of the back-to-back health question and all of that. So a little shorthanded going against a Portland team that despite the record, Andy, has actually been playing quite well over the last month or so. And it was an ugly game for the Lakers,

Starting point is 00:01:46 but at least to me, in a lot, it's pretty impressive too. I would say it's one of those games that it's impressive in its own right when you are not grading it primarily on how well did you play. like how well did you execute? Obviously, really big nights from LeBron James and Austin Reeves that we're going to get into. Both of them without Luca truly took on the assignment of putting the team on their backs. And frankly, it did not look easy for either one of them.

Starting point is 00:02:19 And this wasn't one of those, you know, yours in the case of LeBron's superstar, in the case of Austin Reeves' third best player, one of those nights. where they go supernova and you're like, oh my God, how do they make it look so incredibly? No, not one of those nights for either one of them. You really felt the effort. And I mean, you felt the effort collectively. It's much more of like Andy Dufrein crawling through the pipes to get out of Shawshank and then in the rain like that at the end. I mean, they had, I would say the two of them had probably more fun.

Starting point is 00:03:00 than Andy Dufrain just because there's, by definition, some degree of fun when you combine for 72 points. Although not that much more, I don't think. Well, here's what I would say. They had more fun than Andy Dufrain going through that pipe to escape Shawshank, but not nearly as much fun as on its face, one would suspect for 40 points for LeBron, 32 for Austin Reeves. But like the game was frenetic and often sloppy and often just chaotic.

Starting point is 00:03:36 I tweeted out at Cam Brothers with like maybe five minutes left in the first quarter. Lakers Blazers is already dead from alcohol poisoning drunk and we're only in the first quarter. Like this was at times like in the first quarter there's a sequence where Jackson Hayes, missed a dunk, then Portland missed a dunk on the other hand, which turned into a running completed dunk for Hayes on the second consecutive time. I mean, it was just a

Starting point is 00:04:07 bonkers game in a lot of ways. I think the point you're making here about like not confused, like how you grade the game. Is it 22 turnovers, I believe they? 24. That's even worse. So team turnovers. I just had the individual there.

Starting point is 00:04:25 24 in total. That is a lot. lot. It is a season high. Thank God. If it isn't, like, oh my, oh my Lord. That and, you know, they talked a lot. You know, LeBron talked about it. They got in late. You know, they landed in Portland, didn't get to the hotel until like 3.30, close to four in the morning. Guys are up basically half the night. Second night of a back-to-back. Disappointing game, obviously on Wednesday against Charlotte. But to me, this really was a high character win. And it's not one that they're going to be able to build off of in terms of, like you

Starting point is 00:05:10 say, what they did on the floor. It actually revealed a lot. I'll be honest, I don't want them to build off anything execution-wise from this game at all. Like, that's actually a terrible idea. Don't. Yeah. That part.

Starting point is 00:05:24 I beg of you. Please. If you care at all about this, fans, media, everybody who has to watch these games. And it actually kind of revealed some of the shortcomings the team still has, particularly in a post-Anthony Davis world. But what I mean by like a high character win is like you said, it wasn't easy, even for the stars.

Starting point is 00:05:52 you know, LeBron for the, you know, the gaudy point total and a very good shooting percentage of 14 of 24 made it to the line. Eight of eight had eight rebounds. He had four assists. He had 40 points. And he's 40 years old. He also turned the ball over 11 times. Like the double-doubled tonight in Thursday's game, I should say, was points and turnovers. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:15 And even even if you want to throw away every single turnover, LeBron had upon, contact that you feel like he should have gotten the call. And there were at least a few of those where he could have gotten the call. There were at least five or six that were just bad passes. There was one where he got called for. I mean, one of the most blatant illegal screens I've ever seen. He was essentially like a down lineman blocking his assignment. Like it was a sloppy night for LeBron with the ball. Austin Reeves, 32 points. He got to the line 13 times, made 12 of them.

Starting point is 00:07:01 He had several key defensive plays down the stretch. Like this is one of the best games Austin Reeves has had defensively in a while. But he particularly down the stretch. That's what I'd say. And not even like, you know, how did you guard your man, but just hustle plays defensively, drawing charges, getting to loose balls, and drawing loose ball fouls, things like that. But he also had six turnovers.

Starting point is 00:07:27 And a few of his passing turnovers were just like, bruh. What are you doing? I want to get into why I think a lot of these turnovers happen here. But just to finish this point, like, all of what you're describing is why I call this like a character win. Yes. They had to play. really, really hard to win this game. 85%, 90% of the effort that they put in.

Starting point is 00:07:57 If they put in 90% of that effort, they'd have lost. Like they needed every ounce of what they did to get through it. And they had to grind it out with the other guys. You know, the little contributions from the other guys around the roster. you're dipping into the Trey Jemison, you know, Goodwin portion of the Rade Jemison had the only bench points in the first half. Yeah, like you were saying,

Starting point is 00:08:24 but you're going deeper into the bench with size like that than you normally have been. And you're putting Milton played five minutes. You're putting Jordan Goodwin out for 20. So you're deeper into the rotation. And you saw, though, Finney Smith with a huge tip and bucket down the stretch. Gabe Vincent had a couple big defensive plays,

Starting point is 00:08:49 came and hit a couple big free throws down at the end of the game. Little stuff from all over the roster to contribute. And I feel like this kind of muscle memory, to know that you can win games when you are playing ugly and to be able to turn things around a little bit, at least offensively, down the stretch. Like they opened the fourth quarter with probably their best stretch, of offense, certainly after the first five minutes of the game, 10 minutes of the game.

Starting point is 00:09:19 And just like little stuff like that. And I think you could tell listening to JJ Redick's reaction after the game, how much he appreciated the work. And it's a really important game, because you know, you're going to Denver on Saturday. Like that's not an easy game. They got a really tough stretch of schedule. Logistically, they needed to have this game. They had to figure out a way to win.

Starting point is 00:09:44 it kind of come hell or high water. Absolutely. A couple things before we to go to the break. First of all, I want to make sure that just it's not misinterpreted at all when I was talking about LeBron and Reeves's turnovers. The two of them played very well in this game. And like I said, they understood the assignment of we are going to have to do a lot to make sure this win happens. Even when there were times where I thought both of them were trying to do a little too much,

Starting point is 00:10:14 I understood, and both of them deserve just a ton of praise for the way that they played. I just want to make sure that that is crystal clear. Secondly, when we get back, I also just wanted to make sure to point out a few other guys up and down the roster that I thought you want to make sure that you note those contributions because otherwise, if you're just glancing at the statute or in particular really paying attention two points. I think you're not going to get the full picture of how well they played. All right. All that and more coming next. Lockdown Lakers is brought to you by DoorDash. NBA fans get ready. They swish you save thanks to DoorDash every time a player drops 50 or more points

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Starting point is 00:12:05 Very important. Turns apply, visit DoorDash to learn more. So a lot to still unpack here, including like the, like I was saying, some of the things I think were revealed some of the shortcomings of the team, which we'll get into after the good stuff. We don't want to like, you know, we don't want to skip the good stuff. Another thing to remind people, Andy, in addition to being able to subscribe to the program through iTunes or Spotify, that's, you know, how you get the audio. A great way to get the show. You can also get the newsletter. Go to locked on daily.com,

Starting point is 00:12:43 then click on Lockedon Lakers and you subscribe there. You're doing us a solid and you're doing yourself a solid, more importantly, because you get this show, along with a lot of great NBA analysis delivered to you every day. You had some guys to call out before we move on to the scarier aspects of Thursday's game. Well, every starter had at least one block in this game. Austin Reeves had two. Ruey, a quiet night scoring, but in terms of things that you often want to see from Rui, 12 rebounds, four on the offensive glass. Jackson Hayes, points, seven rebounds and four assists. I thought he had some really nice plays challenging around the lane, just being really active. Goodwin, five rebounds for a guard. We've talked

Starting point is 00:13:31 about this before. Like, Goodwin is actually a very good rebounder for his size. Like the 24 turnovers, which obviously is a lot and too many, they gave up 31 points, which is on its face, a lot of points off turnovers. But for 24 turnovers, it could be a hell of a lot worse. Like to put it in perspective, Portland gave up about half of that off, I think, seven fewer turnovers. So I think the Lakers did a pretty good job in this game at minimum, getting back in transition.

Starting point is 00:14:09 There were many plays where after a turnover, somebody got back and bothered. a play in transition. I can think of times where DFS did it, where Ruey did it, where Jackson had a couple of, Ron, Reeves did it a few times, Gabe drew a charge. Like,

Starting point is 00:14:27 they really hustled hard in this game to offset not playing very well on balance from start to finish. To put that in perspective, Andy, defensively, like in two games, they've got basically over 40 turnovers in the last two games. I've given up 202 points. You're working hard defensively when you're doing it.

Starting point is 00:14:51 But again, it goes back to what we talked about in the first segment. Everything about this game required effort, all of it. If you put in 90% of the effort, which still would have been looking like through my TV, like, damn, they're playing pretty hard. Data lost. Absolutely would have lost because two or three of those possessions that you're talking about there in transition are buckets. And that's the game.

Starting point is 00:15:13 That's the game. And really anybody in this game who plays. played significant minutes. They were in the middle of something hustle-wise that was good and something where they deserved credit. And just collectively, they played extremely hard, especially considering they were short-handed on the second end of a back-to-back. I love this comment from Uncle Jam's army.

Starting point is 00:15:37 Jemison has no skill, but he can F people up. He's burning them behind Jackson. It's a little harsh, but he does. does provide like a certain physicality. It's a big dude. Jemison is a big dude. And shout out to Uncle Jam. If you know Uncle Jam's army,

Starting point is 00:16:00 if you know, you know. Strong. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. That Trey Jemison, the third. I just, you know, I'm looking at DFS was a plus 20 in this game. Like just. he had a huge putback basket down the stretch massive you can see why luka likes playing with

Starting point is 00:16:23 them so much you can see why j j was so excited to have him when they got he just does as cliched as that sounds he does things that help win basketball games he is a winning player and um i i'm very pleased that he is on the team i i do think though So, you know, we talked about it for after Wednesday's game. One of the things I was saying is, you could really see that without Reeves, they struggle to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket. Like they just, and Reeves, who I'm pretty sure was trying to make up for getting himself tossed out of the Charlotte game. Oh, he kept his mouth shut.

Starting point is 00:17:11 Every time you knew he thought he should have gotten a call. he did not. You could feel him going like 1001,000, 2002, breathe, don't say a damn word. Playing downhill all night. Got into a little bit of the second half, I thought he almost got a little overly, like kind of lost control. Like the Lakers generally had a lot of trouble in this game, finding the right pace. Portland was really trying to speed up the game.

Starting point is 00:17:43 And I think the Lakers were trying to resist. Sometimes they got caught playing too slow. And then sometimes Portland forced them to be too slow because the ball pressure that the Blazers were putting on was really intense. And it bothered LeBron. Obviously, double-digit turnovers and bothered AR because even when he was getting into the paint, it took a lot of work to do it. And I think this is an issue the Lakers are going to have. Reeves is probably, you know, in terms of just put the ball and floor, get in the paint. You know, Luca, when he's back and feeling better, does it too.

Starting point is 00:18:22 But he does it in a similar kind of way, uses size, uses the step back, uses whatever. He doesn't just blow by guys. That's not really necessarily his game. The Lakers just don't have a lot of it, even when Reeves is in the game. And now because they don't have Davis in the middle, a paint-based offense has been kind of recalibrated to something that doesn't have that paint presence. They have to find their way into it. And I think that is going to be an issue.

Starting point is 00:18:54 They're going to need Luca, AR, and LeBron with that collective ball handling and passing ability to offset the kind of ball pressure the teams are definitely going to try to put on them. I mean, I know there's hope that you're going to get some of that from Hayes feasting on lobs, although I will say the lobs need to be better than the ones that have been thrown over the last couple of games. Like Jackson has not been able to really put his best foot forward in terms of some of these lobs. And, you know, things like Rui cutting baseline and relocating, which he actually did very well in the loss against Utah. I actually tweeted out one point. the R and Rui stands for relocation, just because he kept moving off ball and getting set up. So those are some of the areas where they, I think they are looking to offset 80s absence, but or departure.

Starting point is 00:19:52 But there's no question. They don't have that focal point in terms of paint points. Like, not that they can't generate any, but the guy who can be there as. the centering force to get them. Like where it all begins. They don't have enough. They have enough. The play that,

Starting point is 00:20:17 one of the plays that I look at and say like the potential is still there even because there's a lot of ways to do this. They have guys though, particularly obviously Luca and LeBron, who read the floor so well that you don't, they don't have to be in a position to, to, you know,

Starting point is 00:20:38 know, kind of like look like they're ready to throw that pass. Like there was a play in the third quarter where LeBron is, actually it was a little before halftime, I should say. LeBron is, I don't know, five feet behind the three point line. The clock is kind of running down. It doesn't look like the possession is going anywhere. He's like bent down looking like he's about to break down the defense. And all of a sudden from 35 feet away in a stagnant half-core possession, he throws a lob to

Starting point is 00:21:05 Hayes and they score. That was great. that pass was insane. And they can do that with two guys, not just one. And, you know, once Luca, once the jumper comes back, once he gets his legs under him, I've had a couple friends that I've had to talk down a little bit and remind them, like, the guy has been out, not just with, you know, he's missed a lot of games. He missed a lot of games with an injury that you can't keep yourself in.

Starting point is 00:21:37 shape with. If he had a broken wrist, his wind would be better. His legs would be under him more. When you're rehabbing a calf injury, definitionally, you're not allowed to do stuff to keep yourself in game shape. So they will be able to open this stuff up. But as you note, Andy, on the rail for people watching on YouTube, this game and sort of the way they were able to play and the stuff they were able to do and what happened when Luca wasn't available does get to some of the shifting identity questions that they have and how they're going to have to try to fix them. We'll talk about it next. Don Lakers is brought to you by Fandul when the game tips off. The NBA action is just getting started. There's no better place to get in on it than Fandul.

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Starting point is 00:23:16 today. Fandle.com for a shot at $150 and bonus bets. Make every moment more. Fandall, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. What would you say again? They played two good defensive games. I think in this back-to-back, not perfect, but 100, 100 and 1, averaging 100. 101 points is good. Yeah, I will say, and I'm not taking anything away from the Lakers defense because they were extremely active. And I think they earned a lot of the problems that Portland and Utah had. That said, those two teams are Portland and Charlotte, those two teams are wild as hell. Like Charlotte and I was going to say that they are not.

Starting point is 00:24:05 Charlotte. They're not good offensive teams. Like Charlotte and Portland are two of the wildest offensive teams. like some of their decision making is like especially like when you consider that the the blazers are coached by Chauncey Billups who for those who don't remember him in his prime with the pistons you know with with Denver like he was one of those settling force adult in the room all stars like beyond his talent all of that stuff he was like the conscience of your team and the guy that kept everybody in line and on the same page and making smart decisions,

Starting point is 00:24:47 he must watch his team every single night and just be like, I don't get it. I don't know what you people are thinking. I was young once, but I don't remember being this low-go. I don't remember being that young or being like that. And Chauncey was like, you know, 42 when he was 20. So, you know, I get it. But they're just, you know, they are legitimately a team. I know, they play really hard.

Starting point is 00:25:11 They play really hard. They do. They've got talent there. And, you know, guys, like, you know, clinging is enormous. Block two shots on, like, the first Lakers possession. Like, just, you know, they are all over the place. They're not a great offensive team. Both of them and the Hornets are well into the bottom third in terms of points a night.

Starting point is 00:25:34 But still, you're doing good work. Yeah. know, I just, I don't think it's going, what the hard part about this is they know they're a team that's going to have to play hard defensively. And they, by the way, they did all these things while turning the ball over 40 times. Like you turn the ball over 40 times and still teams, hold teams to basically 100 points a night. That makes it better. But I think figuring out what they are from an offensive identity is going to be a challenge because they are missing certain things. They have an overabundance in certain categories like passing, you know, and sort of scoring star power and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:26:25 But they're deficient in others. And so how do you play to all of your strengths? try to minimize your weaknesses. Oh, and by the way, sort of try to shift this into a Luca Donchich team as opposed to a LeBron James one. Or at the very least, a La Luka team, where it feels like there's a balance between them.

Starting point is 00:26:46 And I don't think it's entirely an accident that the Lakers were able to figure it out tonight on a night without Luca, but where you have LeBron and Austin, as opposed to... They look much more comfortable early for that reason. It's like back to doing what they were doing. Right.

Starting point is 00:27:04 Versus LeBron and Luca, even if from a talent perspective, certainly if Luca's back to being Luca, LeBron and Luca is the higher talent, LeBron and Austin know how to play off each other. And Luca and LeBron are still learning each other. Luca, Austin and LeBron together are still learning each other. And then until the three of them really get on at least a similar, page, if not the exact same one, it makes it harder for Rui and DFS and Gabe and Jackson, like everybody else to fill in around that until those three are on a much better page together. And, you know, they are trying to figure out who they are. And unfortunately,

Starting point is 00:27:52 they've had to do it now, you know, for a few games without Luca after the trade happened, because Luca wasn't ready to get back on the court. And then since then, Luca hasn't played in every game. And the ones that he has played in, he hasn't been himself physically from a comfort level, quite possibly mentally. We talked about before this is, I'm sure, a lot, this experience is a lot for Luca to wrap his head around. And it was interesting. I heard Brian Winhorst on one of the ESPN NBA shows talking a bit how the Lakers need to, I guess to paraphrase Brian a bit, let Luca be Luca and let him do the things that he does.

Starting point is 00:28:37 And I'm like, look, man, and he talked about how Luca's point totals are low. And I'm like, if you look at Lucas' usage over his three games with the Lakers, he's got the highest usage by a pretty wide margin. Like he's just something like 32. LeBron's was 27 and Austin's was 19 rounding up. The reason Luca's point totals are low is he's shooting like 30% from the field and 20% from behind the arc. And I'm very confident that that is going to get better. But for the time being, until Luca is comfortable on a bunch of different levels and these guys get the reps, they're in this process right now. of trying to reinvent themselves without being able to do it as often and from the best place of advantage.

Starting point is 00:29:29 And that's a difficult thing to do in real time as you enter a really difficult stretch of the schedule. Well, you know, they call it, Andy a make or miss league. But, you know, I joke. But at the same time, we're going to all overreact in the same way that it's easy to overreact to Luca. was you five of 18 against Charlotte. It's easy to overreact to that. He's coming back. We saw the comments section, man.

Starting point is 00:29:56 Folks are reacting. Right. He's getting fatter, like somehow. Like he's, he's, he's, like, it's the worst trade ever and all these other things

Starting point is 00:30:06 as opposed to, look, it's like, he's eating donuts on the sideline. Coming back. Right. Coming back from a long injury, basically starting,

Starting point is 00:30:17 you're kind of starting over again with, your season, it takes more than a, you know, a couple games to get back. Because, again, he couldn't, the injury prohibited him from staying in shape, starting over again. We will probably overreact in a week and a half or a week or whatever when Luca has three games in a row where he shoots 56%. And, you know, he's up around 30 points a night. And LeBron's fled like, oh, my God, how do you? you stop this team. There's too much passing. There's too much ball movement. There's too much,

Starting point is 00:30:54 you know, skill here. Like, we need to see what it looks like on a night where Luca is on a bit of a heater. And then I think you'll be able to say like, okay, where's the middle ground? What's the happy medium look like? I do think in the long term, it's probably going to have to be, you know, our friend George Sedano, I think, was talking about this. And I think it was part of the, what Wendy was saying. Like LeBron at some point's probably going to have to do for Luca what Wade did for him and clearly just back off a little bit. I'd argue he has.

Starting point is 00:31:32 I think so too. And I also think the idea that it would be really hard for him is like he kind of turned it over. He gave the ball handling duties to Reeves earlier in the year. He's been. Did it during a playoff series. He's, you know, so that part has already happened. As functionally as you could, he sort of turned over the best player on the team mantle to AD.

Starting point is 00:31:55 It just, it looks different because AD doesn't handle the ball himself. I think the harder guy actually to figure out here is Reeves, but we can talk that on a separate show. His adjustment is going to be even bigger. But the willingness, I think, is there just, I think, it comes. to me at least down to with the three of them, they have to figure out how to get all of them playing to where they're doing stuff in

Starting point is 00:32:23 relation to each other. Like, you know, screens where one is setting for the other. And like, yes, stuff like that. You made this point for Thursday's show. I think that's going to be where you start to see this stuff get unlocked. And they got to be on the court together

Starting point is 00:32:39 in order to do that. And when they're on the court, you can't you know, like Austin getting ejected. and he more than made up for it tonight, but Austin getting ejected hurts those opportunities to create the two-man synergy, the three-man synergy, you know, this synergy between Austin and Luca's going to matter. Like, it's not just LeBron and Luca.

Starting point is 00:33:00 Like, Luca and Reeves are going to be, at times, the two main guys, and they have to learn how to play off each other. Yeah, and just a bit, like, it's just the problem with, like, you need Luca there because, you know, Reeves, when Reeves is the guy who puts, he can get into the paint, but it's like, it's not like Lamello we saw on Wednesday, you know, a couple dribbles, a little crossover. And the quickness all of a sudden he's there.

Starting point is 00:33:22 Like, Reeves got to work to get himself in there. It's effort. It's change of pace. It's physical. It's what. Austin was like a human bruise after this game. That dude just spent, particularly the fourth quarter, just getting decked. Like I realize it's a travel day and all that.

Starting point is 00:33:40 He ain't playing golf tomorrow. That's for damn sure. Nope. All right. I am excited to see what they do in Denver. Presumably everybody's available to play. We'll see LeBron is going to be listed as questionable for every game for the rest of the season. But assuming he misspelled his life.

Starting point is 00:33:56 Right. I mean, no, you're right. He's 40. He's 40. I wake up every day and I'm questionable and I don't play professional basketball. I, but let's just presume that they're all back on a way. It's a national TV game on a Saturday, going to be fired up for it. it. And this could be a good barometer a little bit to see where they are. I'm excited.

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Locked On Lakers - Daily Podcast On The Los Angeles Lakers - Without Luka, LeBron (40 Pts), Reaves (32) Fuel Lakers' 110-102 Win Over Trail Blazers

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