Locked On Penguins - Daily Podcast On The Pittsburgh Penguins - Can the Penguins cool off the red-hot Canucks tonight?

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

The Pittsburgh Penguins have another massive game on their hands tonight against the Vancouver Canucks and Hunter and Pat are here to preview it. They discuss how the Canucks have taken the NHL by storm and how they're scoring goals on every team. They look at their high-end talent and how both Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes are finally getting their flowers considering how good they've been. They then get into some keys for the Penguins to pull off the win before discussing who they have their eyes on for their matchup. No, it's not Sidney Crosby for once! Who should the Penguins start in net? The hosts also dive into that before ending the show with a couple of updates on prospects Joel Blomqvist and Sergei Murashov, and how the team's goaltending pipeline is in good hands.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Jase MedicalEmpower yourself when you purchase a Jase Case, providing you with a personal supply of 5 antibiotics that treat 50+ infections. Get yours today at jasemedical.com and use code LOCKEDON to get $20 off your order. SleeperDownload the Sleeper App and use promo code LOCKEDONNHL to get up to a $100 match on your first deposit. Terms and conditions apply. See Sleeper’s Terms of Use for details.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelRight now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY in BONUS BETS – GUARANTEED when you place a FIVE DOLLAR BET.  Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

One of the best teams in the National Hockey League is coming to Pittsburgh tonight. Hunter and I are going to break down how the penguins can get a win and more on this edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast. You're Locked-on Penguins. Your daily podcast on the Pittsburgh Penguins. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network. Your team every day. Hello, Penguins fans, and welcome to another edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast. I'm one of your host Patrick Damp,

joined as always by the one and only the illustrious Hunter Hodes. You can follow me on Twitter at Synonym 4Wet. You can follow Hunter on Twitter at Hunter Hodes. You can follow the show's account at L.O. underscore Penguins. We thank you for making this your first listen slash watch of the day because we're your team every day. We are free and available on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

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and that's the Vancouver Canucks. Nobody really saw this coming. A few people, including yourself, as you have said to me before, did buy this. I kind of didn't. And I said it to you before we hit record. The only reason I didn't really buy into the hype of the Canucks going into this year was mainly the fact that they did the same kind of thing under Bruce Boudreau that they did under Rick Tocke. When they brought Boudreau in near the end of the year, they,

started playing better and they looked like a team that was going to improve the year after and then they cratered under boost brudrow he gets fired talk it comes in same deal they start playing better and then i was like okay so are we just going to go through this cycle where they fire a coach the new guy comes in they play well for a couple of months and then they crater again so i was extremely skeptical of this team but by just about every metric and the one that stands out most of me I want to start here for this Vancouver Canucks team is that if you just go off the top line statistics for this Canucks team, right now at all situations, their goal differential is by far the best in the national hockey league at a plus 53. The closest to them is 10 away at plus 43, and that's the Winnipeg Jets. And then after that, it's an incredibly sharp drop off away from those two where the LA Kings have a plus 30.

So this, we're going to talk about this team for the next 20, 25, 30 minutes, but, man, I think this team just has the magic. I think it's just one of those teams that for some explainable reasons, for some unexplainable reasons, they are just great this year and they just have that magic. But Hunter, what say you about the Vancouver Canucks? It's funny. When you look at their underlines, a lot of them are kind of average. but when you see their 61.2 actual goals rate and their plus 40 goal differential at five on five this year, that jumps out of you like it's nothing. This team is stupid good. They played the New York Rangers

earlier this week and they made that team look like a pee-wee team at Madison Square Garden. They were kind of playing like the Harlem Globetrotters in that building and kind of messing around with them a little bit. The Canucks have been, I'll say this, I think they're the best. team in the Western Conference right now. And you can easily make an argument that they are the best team in the NHL right now. I think they would give any team in the Western Conference a massive fight in a seven-game series. I think they could take Vegas in a seven-game series. Colorado, even if Colorado is fully healthy.

And the number one reason is because of their star talent. That's been the biggest reason why the Canucks are so good this year. J.T. Miller, 19 goals, 55 points in 41 games. Pat, you weren't on the show yet at last year, but we don't, well, early on last year, I should say, but there was a time where J.T. Miller almost came to the Penguins. They were working on that deal on deadline day. It would have been a very complex deal. You see what Miller is doing now with Vancouver, obviously would have been very crazy to have Miller come to Pittsburgh. The Penguins obviously got Eric Carlson and a whole bunch of other moves. But Miller has always been a very good player in the

And here's the thing. I will say this about Miller when the reports, came out last year that they were working on that deal and it fell through. I wasn't on board with it because if you were a bit, but if you remember last season, he was not this J.T. Miller. He looked like he was fully in the rinse cycle. He looked like he was washed. He was mailing it in. He was dunzo. And now all of a sudden, just like, just about everybody else on this Canucks team, complete renaissance. I agree. And you also would have had to given up, what was it, Jason Zucker, Marcus Pedersen, something like that. No thanks on either of those. No, he would have had to give up quite a bit of salary, quite a few picks. The contract is what it is

with Miller. No thanks on that. But I'm glad to the contract now, though. I agree. Yeah. I'm glad he's playing very well with the Canucks. But after that, Ilius Pedersen, 20 goals, 53 points in 41 games. Ilius Pedersen might be the most underrated player in the NHL right now. If you don't know how good this player is you are going to see firsthand on Thursday night at PBG Paints Arena. He walked Adam Fox like it was nothing earlier this week at the Garden in New York. He is stupid good people. And it's awesome to see him play at this level. Quinn Hughes, 51 points in 41 games.

It's funny. With Quinn Hughes, people have always been like, man, he's underrated, is underrated. No, he's been playing at this level throughout his career. but people don't notice it because he plays in Vancouver. Right now, he's a top five defense in the league. Brock Besser has 25 goals in 44 points this season. Besser just didn't really look that good last season. There was a lot of factors at play with that,

but he's looking like one of the best pure goal scores in the league this year. You have Philip Hironik on the back end. He has 34 points in 41 games. You have Connor Garland as a depth option. Dakota Joshua down there, Ilya McKeyev. this team is very potent offensively, and the Penguins are going to have to be on high alert against this team. The Canucks lead the league in goals four per 60. 3.9. They average almost four goals per game. This is going to be, I think, the toughest test yet for the Penguins in terms of

defending their own zone. We'll leave it right there at this point for the talk about the Canucks and get back more into them in the next segment. Let's go and look here at our team here in the Penguins. same workflow that they had against the Flyers at practice yesterday. All the lines are the same. Gensel Crosby-Richel, D.O.C. Malk and Rust. Smith, Elear Pustodin, Harkens, Achari, Carter, and then the defense stays the same. Pedersen-Latang, Carlson-Joseph, Graves, Roo-Weedle.

If I were to guess, I would imagine, once we, and when you're listening to this, you may already know, but I would imagine they're going to go back to Tristan Jari for this game because it appears that they are doing the every other rotation right now with the goaltenders instead of giving Jari two, three games and then putting Net in and vice versa. So if I, this is another game if you were to ask me, it would be the right idea to start Jari because again, you know, we talked with Josh yesterday about everything going on with the team for our midseason check in.

And he said he believes Ned's been a better goalie. I think it's a lot closer than that. But this is another opportunity for the coaching staff to say, okay, Jari, go out there, prove you're the guy. You're going to play one of the best teams in the league. Show us what you got. I agree with you on that, especially with the part about how you're playing arguably the best team in hockey.

This is a big moment game for the Penguins. And usually you want your starter out there in that game, especially the one that's making a lot more money than the other one. And I will say if they do go to Dedalkovich, I wouldn't be surprised in two career starts against the Canucks. He has a 9-701. Say percentage, one goals against average. So very good numbers.

I know small sample size. But for Jari, this is the type of game where you go to him and you're like, okay, you are our number one guy, at least our 1A guy. We're going to throw you out there against the best team the league and we're going to see how you do. You've been doing that in other high leverage situations this season. I know Ndilkevich has also been thrown into some high leverage games as well, like Boston last week, for example, that was a big one.

But you need to see Jari in these type of games as well. So I would not be surprised if they started in this one. Though, again, overall, it's just great that they have two great options in that. They can go to either goalie in this one. But agree with you overall, I think they're going to go Jari here. But if I'm wrong, you know, not the end of the role. And I know we spent the first seven minutes talking about the Canucks on the show. this is not the locked on Canucks podcast, but I had to give them their flowers because for everyone

listening and watching, this is going to be quite the test for this team tonight. It's a great team. And this is another opportunity for the Penguins to prove that they're among the league's elite. And here's the thing that I think that's kind of getting lost because the Canucks are rightfully getting the hype that they deserve right now. Last 10 games, identical records for both these teams. Penguins are seven, two and one in their last 10, Canucks are 7-2 and one in their last 10. Biggest difference right now, three-game win streak for the Canucks. So they're coming in just a little bit hotter.

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Go to jacemetical.com and use offer code locked on to get $20 off of your order. Welcome back to the Thursday edition of the Locked On Penguins podcast. I am one of your host Patrick Damp, joined as always by the incredible, the best in the business, the one and only Hunter Hodes. And it's a big one tonight. We spent the first segment kind of ping ponging back and forth, more on the side of the Canucks than we did on the Penguins. So let's focus a little bit here more on the Penguins.

We'll talk a little bit also about whether or not this Canucks team is for real. But who are you watching for tonight? Because I know my answer when it comes to the Penguins. I know who needs to step up. there's a couple of guys, but I want to start with you, Hunter. What are you looking for? Who are you watching overall thoughts on this game tonight? It will be easy to say,

Sidney Crosby. I feel like we're watching him on a nightly basis at this point. Would you say we're going to have a vintage Crosby performance? We'll see. We'll say. I got to feel it, man. I got to feel it. I'm not fully feeling it.

Sorry, I couldn't help it. But again, he's been so good this year that we have to say it. Like, I'm giving you grief, but it's not like it's not, it's not without merit. Now that I said, I'm not feeling it. He's probably going to go out there and have a five point nine and they're going to

bust this team or something like that. But I'm going to go with two defensemen who I'm keeping my eye on tonight. And that's both Marcus Pedersen and Crystal Tang. They're going to get the lion share of the minutes, I think against the Canucks top line. And for those that don't know what that line is, that is Petterson with Miller and Besser. One of the best top lines in the league this season. You can throw out Pedersen against them.

See how he does. And I think Le Tang with how good defensively he's been this season. that's going to be a really intriguing matchup for me just because of their metrics overall defensively and with how good all three of those Canucks players have been, it's going to be a fascinating chess match to see how much offense the Canucks can generate against those two defensivemen. And I'm assuming Sullivan's probably going to match the Crosby line with Gensel and Raquel against them. But overall, can Pedersen and Lettang step up in their own zone against what I think is one of the best top lines in hockey? that's what I have my eye on, or one of the things I have my eye on for this one.

And that's kind of been an underrated narrative or storyline, whatever you want to call it for this season. And I've actually got his jersey up behind me right now is that Chris LaTang has really stepped up his defensive game this year. He was never bad defensively. I don't care what your uncle on Facebook said or whatever drive time sports talk radio caller here in Pittsburgh had to say, Chris LaTang has always been solid defensively, but this year, he has taken it to a different level. And it's been incredible to watch because I know we talked about it with Josh in the preseason, but not yesterday, in the preseason about the growth of Chris LaTang from kind of being that prima donna diva kind of kid to now one of the most mature people on the penguins and an absolute leader. So you could have, it would have been very easy for him this season to kind of pout, throw it in the tank and think, they go out and get the shiny new toy and Eric Carlson and I'm not going to be on PowerPlay 1.

I'm probably not going to be the top defensive pairing anymore. And instead he went the opposite way and became, he is maybe the Penguin's best penalty killer this year on the back end. You show what type of leader he is as well. Yeah. He knows how good Carlson is offensively. but that's not really phasing him at all. It hasn't phased him this season. He's going about his business.

He's having a really solid season. And that's really helped the penguins turn around, especially these last several weeks. I mean, he's been great overall. And somebody else I want to keep an eye on. And we obviously don't know yet, as I said in the previous segment, is we don't know who's going to start for the penguins yet tonight. I'm going to just say in general,

I'm watching the penguins goalie, whomever that may be, whether it's Jari or Ned. This is, like you said, this is a team that can score. If you go just, again, to the straight up top line numbers, and you go to goals four, they're right at the top through 41 games with 160 goals. So this team can score. And for the penguins to show that they're a contender,

to show that they actually do have strength between the pipes this season, and do they need to get a shut out? No, that is not, I don't want to, that's even unrealistic to say against a team like the Canucks this year, who would have thought we were ever going to say that, but they need to give up one, maybe two goals, put up a good performance, 915 in that range, because that is, as I have said before,

the great equalizer. If you have great goaltending, that is going to put you in a good position to win. And so far this season, I wouldn't go as far as I say the penguins have had great goaltending, but they've had very good goaltending. Yes, and what's the blueprint for the penguins for this type of game?

You know it. Same thing that we've seen them do against Colorado, Vegas, and a few other teams they've played. You limit these guys at the outside. This is going to be the toughest challenge yet for eliminating this type of team to the outside and getting them out of the high danger area. They are so good at getting to those prime scoring areas.

the penguins really have their work cut out for them in terms of this one. Another player who I do have my eye on for this game, Riley Smith. It's time for him to really find the score sheet again. Two goals in his last 29 games, that's not acceptable. I know they basically got him for free right around the time of the NHL draft last year. And he started out the season a little bit slowly, started scoring a bit, which was great. He had that great chemistry with Hvgeny Malkin was looking like that chemistry that he had with James Neal all those years ago, but that kind of fell flat a couple weeks later.

And they haven't been able to find that chemistry since you've seen Smith be demoted in favor of Drew O'Connor, which I agree with. I think O'Connor has played really well at least last two weeks. But it's time for Riley Smith to finally show something because he's not playing at the level that I thought he was going to play out this season. And if the penguins really want to keep the good vibes going, it would behoove Smith to really ramp it up because that would go a long way towards this team solidifying their playoff spot here down the stretch. Yeah. Lastly and not leastly, get your umbrellas out because

I'm going to drop a name here. So the last one for me, and I'm assuming again, don't know if he's going to start. I hope he does, is Thatcher Demcoe for the Vancouver Canucks. I, as I alluded to early in the episode, when the Utica Comets were the Vancouver Hoover Canucks A HL affiliate a few years back. I actually worked for that team. And Thatcher Demko was the goalie in the AHL that year. And I was there for maybe a handful of games, my first handful of games. And all I thought was watching this guy was he's going to be a star one day.

And that was the year, if you remember, that all of the big guys save for Austin Matthews in the Toronto Maple Leafs organization were still with the Marley's. Marner, Nealander, all those guys. Cappanin before everything happened with Cappan. And it was a stacked Marley's team that basically slept, walked their way to the Calder Cup. The only team that gave them any sort of a series was the Comets. And I would say maybe 80% of that was Thatcher Demco just being an absolute animal. So this guy should be in the Vezna conversation this year. And if he's not, I would genuinely be stunned.

I would be very surprised as well. I knew Demko was for real when he was the only reason why that 2020 series against Vegas went seven games. He was on fire for the Canucks during that series. That was the COVID-shortened season in 2020. And again, Demko was legitimately the only reason why that went to a seventh game. He was on another planet in that series. So far this season, he has been unbelievable.

Second in terms of goals stayed above expected with 13.6. 916 save percentage 2.54 goals against average playing like one of the best goaltenders in the league he absolutely should be in a vest of conversation i would be kind of surprised if he didn't start in this one overall we should be in line for a really fun goaltending matchup for this game and real quick the thing that's crazy is even though thatcher demko's played 29 games casey de smith has only played 13 but same save percentage this year both rocking a 916 so kudos to him i'm glad he's having a bounce back. He wasn't good in Pittsburgh last year. The Penguins needed a fresh start.

You couldn't run that tandem back for another season. I am glad that DeSmith is playing well in Angoutra. I'll say that. And this is where and this is we'll end this segment. And that's what Casey DeSmith needs to be. He needs to be a guy who starts 25, maybe 30 games if that. He can't be a spot starter. If he's doing this where he's playing every third, fourth, fifth game, he's in a solid backup. He's a very solid backup. But if he's got to start stealing starts from the guy in front of him, then you run into trouble. So good to see him bouncing back.

He was a solid backup here, except for when he had to be a spot starter, like I said. But that's going to do it for this segment. When we come back, we're going to go over a couple little odds and ends ahead of tonight's game. But before we do that, we have to tell you about our next sponsor, and that is Sleeper.

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Terms and conditions apply. That is code Locked on NHL, see Sleeper's terms of use for details and locational availability. Welcome back Penguins fans to the Thursday edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast. I'm one of your host, Patrick Damp, joined us always by the illustrious, the one and only, the elite co-host of the elite Hunter Hodes. And we ended the last segment talking about goaltending, the kind of goaltending matchup that's coming tonight when the Vancouver Canucks come to town. But we also have to give a shout out to another goaltender in the penguin system. and that is Wilkesbury's goaltender, Joel Blumquist, who was just named to the 2024 AHL All-Star Classic

that will take place in San Jose. He's having himself quite a year. Yeah, he's been fantastic. And this is his first full season in Wilkesbury 19 starts, 2.16 goals against average 926 percentage. Sometimes it takes a little longer than some to really adjust to North America compared to playing overseas. but Blanquist has really adjusted to playing in Wilkesbury,

and it's nice seeing him have a really strong gear for Wilkesbury. I don't think he's in the Penguins' plans for next year, but maybe the year after that or even the year after that, he could be on this roster as a backup or even as a starter, but it's just nice seeing him playing at a high level this year. Yeah, and he's only 22 years old. They took him in the 2020 draft. He did project pretty high despite being a second round pick.

He was taking 52nd overall, excuse me. And I mean, he's a big dude. He's 6-2, 187. And like you said, he might not be in the immediate plans for the penguins, but you think about it from this perspective, right? Obviously, you got Jari locked up long term. He's not going anywhere. Actually, I kind of want to walk that back a little bit.

He's not going anywhere because he's also played pretty well, but that contract is not immovable. it's actually fairly affordable once the salary cap goes up, but that's a different discussion for a different day. The way Ned's playing this year, only being on a one-year deal, there's a good chance he's probably not back next year because there's a real chance he could get paid

and go be a starter somewhere rather than a 1B. So, you know, maybe he's somebody that you kind of do goalie by committee, especially considering he's most, I believe he's still waivers exempt. that's somebody that, you know, maybe you get a veteran backup on league minimum and you kind of platoon all of them back and forth and just see what happens. But yeah, I mean, it's nice to see that it does always feel like even since the days of flurry, the penguins have kind of always had good goaltending prospects. And there's another I want to tell you about a recent fourth round pick.

You know, Sergey Mureshov, he's been playing really good in Russia. He hasn't made it over to North America. America just yet. But this season in the MHL in Russia, he's played 22 games, 1.98 goals against average, 937 percentage. And he's also had a little bit of a few starts in the KHL, four games, 1.77 goals against average, 926A percentage. Really strong numbers in a couple of pretty good leagues out in Russia. I want to see how that translates to North America when he's ready to come over to Wilkesbury whenever. Yeah, and I mean, like I was saying there, though, too, is you look at, regardless of how it's turned out, right?

You had Flurry and then behind him was Matt Murray, and then behind Matt Murray was Tristan Jari. And now behind him, you maybe have Blumquist and a couple other guys. So it also helps in the long term, because when you think about it, there haven't been in the modern era, a ton of teams. there's been a few, but a lot of teams that have won the Stanley Cup since the salary cap was implemented, not a lot of franchise goalies. It's been guys who are on more affordable deals, guys who are a little bit sort of journeyman or not quite your franchise goalie. So the fact that you can kind of cycle those guys in and out is a bit of an organizational strength. I agree. And it's just, again, nice having really good.

depth at this position overall because this is good for the short-term future of the franchise and especially good for the long-term future of the franchise, even though Tristan is signed for quite a few more years on that deal. You know, you mentioned about Alex Indelkevich. He might not be back next year. He could be looking at maybe $2.5 million, $3 million on a contract, maybe even more than that, heck, Jonas Corpus Solo got over what, $5 million on his deal with Ottawa and he hasn't really been that good this season.

He could be looking at that money if he continues to play this well. So the backup job next season for Jari could be wide open. I'm not saying Marashav is going to be ready for that role. But maybe if Blumquist continues to play, well, he could get a small look, though I would probably lean towards someone that already has an ageal experience getting that look for Jari. He might still be a couple years away. Moroshov is even further than that at this way. But it's still great depth to have in the organization.

Yeah. And that's kind of also going to be the way this summer goes for a lot of teams. because there are a lot of teams right now that their biggest need is goaltending and nobody really has any goalies to give. So if you're a free agent goalie going into this summer, chances are you are going to get overpaid just because a lot of teams need goaltending right now. But that is going to do it for us on this edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast. It's the Penguins.

It's the Canucks tonight, 7 o'clock at PPG Paints Arena. if you're not going, you can catch it on Sportsnet, Pittsburgh, or 105.9 the X. We will be back tomorrow to give you a recap of this game and get you set for the Carolina Hurricanes game on Saturday. But for Hunter Hodes, I am Patrick Damp. Thank you for tuning into this edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast.