Locked On Penguins - Daily Podcast On The Pittsburgh Penguins - Penguins open training camp with some intensity!
Episode Date: September 18, 2024Day one of training camp is in the books and by all accounts it was an intense one! In this episode, Patrick Damp is joined by Kelsey Surmacz of The Hockey News to talk about her observations from the... first day of Penguins training camp. They talk about who stood out early, what to expect the rest of the week, and why it was an intense first day. Then, they look to the future to discuss some bounce-back and potential breakout candidates for this upcoming season. Finally, they take a quick look back at the Penguins victorious effort at the prospects challenge in Buffalo.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!eBay MotorsFor parts that fit, head to eBay Motors and look for the green check. Stay in the game with eBay Guaranteed Fit at eBayMotors.com. Let’s ride. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNHL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelNow through September 22nd, ALL FanDuel customers can bet FIVE DOLLARS and get a THREE WEEK free trial of NFL Sunday Ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started. IndeedStill searching for a great candidate for your company? Don’t search, just match–with Indeed.Claim your SEVENTY-FIVE DOLLAR CREDIT now at Indeed.com/LOCKEDON. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Well, folks, it's finally here.
The Penguins have officially opened training camp.
And joining me on Locked On Penguins today is Kelsey Sermats to talk about everything she saw on day one and more.
And we're going to do that right after this.
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As I said in the intro, joining the show once again, our good friend Kelsey Sermatch, she is here and you know her from social media, you know her from the hockey news.
And hopefully today, you know her from her coverage of Penguins Training Camp, which has officially opened and the first day is in the books from the UPMC Lemieux Complex.
And Kelsey, excited to have you back on the show and excited to get your thoughts today.
So let's dive right into it.
We wouldn't be back in Penguin's season if there weren't already injuries.
And we found out almost five minutes into the opening of training camp that Eric Carlson,
day to day with, I believe it's an upper body injury, but we know how the NHL is.
They just give you a non-specific region of the body and just say if their day to day or out.
So let's put that to the side.
you were in attendance for everything today on day one.
So I want to get your thoughts on some things of who stood out,
what you noticed,
and just general thoughts.
So wherever you want to start,
the floor is yours right now.
Awesome.
Well, first of all,
I mean,
wouldn't be Penguins hockey with on an injury immediately.
So we're already in mid-season form there.
But yeah,
so training game was interesting today.
And just talking to a lot of the guys, I think there's this general sense.
Everybody's aware of how much competition there is this year.
And that was kind of a common sentiment throughout the locker room.
But as far as standouts, I kind of start there.
So obviously there's not too much to read into day one.
Everybody goes off about line combinations and whatnot.
But really, when there's this many guys, there's 69 roster players in camp right now.
Can't read too much into anything at this point.
But I did find it mildly interesting that Beauvilliers started with Crosby and Russ today.
And I guess just, I mean, again, you can't read too much into it.
But that's kind of an intriguing combination for me.
You know, as many of you might know, Bavillier scored 20 goals alongside Matt Barsall in New York.
he plays a speed game and honestly like he he looked right in stride with crosbie and russ today so i'm
kind of interested to see if if that combination sticks at all i know we've kind of gone through
the carousel of crosbie's left wings this season and there's there's there's a bunch of different
options there but but he kind of stood out to me today i thought he had a pretty good day um but i
think for me today sam poland um really looked like he was kind of had an extra step today um he
was carrying the puck well. His skating looked, at least to me, a little bit improved from last
year. He skated in the scrimmage alongside McGority and Drew O'Connor. So to me, he was kind of
the standout at camp today. He kind of was playing with a little extra intensity. And then later on,
Team 3 practiced after the scrimmage. And I really like what I'm seeing from Blake Lazott.
I know he's someone I've mentioned a few times, and I think last time I was on here, I mentioned
how much I like that signing.
And you can tell that he just plays with a lot of intensity, tenacity.
And he was kind of, you know, a gear up on everybody today.
He definitely stood out in that practice.
So those are the two guys I kind of kept my eye on today.
Yeah, I'm right with you.
I have been singing the praises of the signing of Blake Lazott since the day the ink dried on that deal.
because he fits right into the mold of player that I have been saying this team has been sorely lacking for quite a while.
And just to keep the inside joke for our listeners going,
he's the kind of bastard that this team has been missing for quite some time.
And I was really encouraged seeing reports from you and others that when he was on the ice for day one,
he was bringing all of that.
Now, it's day one.
Everybody's a little bit ramped up.
everybody's excited to be back. So like, like you said, even though we want to freak out about line
combinations, it's day one. It could be completely changed in two weeks. It's definitely going to
be changed in a month. So not, you don't want to get yourself wrapped around the axle when it comes
to stuff like that. But keeping it on that train, I wanted to get your overall thoughts on this
because you ended it with the thoughts of how Blake Lazott looked with being kind of full go,
full tilt, just really out there bringing the intensity.
Was that kind of the vibe on the ice today?
Because you could see it especially in the way these guys, especially a lot of the ones who
were returning, talked about how last year went.
They really feel like they've got a lot to prove and that they have a goal in mind that they
want to get back to the postseason.
And it kind of feels like the mood going into this is one of intensity in competition.
Did you get that feeling watching practices and scrimmages today?
Oh, absolutely.
And I feel like, I mean, even Sully said it in his press or two,
there's just more competition for roster spots this year than there's been in a lot of years
for the penguins.
And that's a good thing.
And I think you can kind of sense that intensity.
kind of in the locker room.
Like I said, I spoke with a couple of the guys,
and they all kind of echoed the same sentiments.
So it was all just, you know, there's a log jam of forwards.
We all got to play for our spot on this team.
And they were all kind of echoing that same thing.
I actually talked to Cody Glass briefly, too,
which is another name.
I'm kind of keeping an eye on him too.
Because, again, with the logjam of bottom six forwards,
it'll be interesting to see who does crack the roster.
But he kind of said it himself,
too. Like there's no guarantees with this roster. So I think they're kind of all very cognizant
of the fact that nothing's set in stone this year. I think that's good for the organization.
That's good for this team. It kind of lights an extra fire under them. I think that they
haven't necessarily had the last couple of years. So I think everybody's kind of feeling that in the
locker room. And you could definitely see it on the ice today. There was definitely an extra level of
intensity, especially for those fringe guys, you know, the Polans, the Magrorties, the
the bros. So you can, it's palpable. You can definitely feel it, watching them and talking to them.
I mean, I love to hear that. I'm trying to balance my overall excitement that we're finally going to
get actual legitimate hockey and not be scrolling Twitter just to find out if there's any
signings or PTOs.
But to your point about competition and they're not really being any guarantees, one thing
we do pretty much know is guaranteed is that Tristan Jari and Alex Nadalcovic will be the
NHL rostered goaltenders this year because that's pretty much the plan.
They both have NHL experience.
But something Hunter and I, and even myself when I've been doing solo episodes, have been
discussing is that a rare point.
of depth in this organization is goaltender. You have, obviously you've got Joel Blumquist,
who had a great year in Wilkesbury Scranton. They bring in Sergei Murrishov into his professional
career in North America this year. And I know that you wrote about a little bit about those two
in camp today. Just give me some of what you observed with the two of them between the pipes,
because I know that at the very least, and it's something we're going to talk about later on in the show,
is that Sergey Murshov proved himself quite well in Buffalo in the Prospects Challenge.
So what did you see from not so much Jari and the Delcovic, but the other goaltenders who were on the ice today for day one?
I'll tell you what, Marischov's legit.
I, you can, you can see it that he's, he's athletic, he's quick.
He makes great reads too.
And honestly, like, he just looks so confident in there, so poised for a guy his age and just in his position.
And I think the interesting thing here, too, is, I mean, you don't want to look past guys like OTA either.
I mean, I know he's injured right now.
But I think there was kind of a general feel in the organization before the season started that Murashov wasn't even going to be here this year.
So I think the fact that they now have him in the system, obviously you said to yourself, Joel Blum,
Conquest is also there.
And they basically have like two AHL starting goaltenders.
So I think for for my observations today, they were both locked in.
And I don't want to, dare I say, more so than even the NFL starters.
But I think they do have a little bit more to prove.
But the penguins are kind of in this unique position where they have goaltending
depths for days.
We haven't seen this in a long time.
It gives them a lot of options, you know, if they really are trying to compete, you know, within the next year or so, which, I mean, given the fact that Crosby only signed for two years, it kind of almost makes you feel like there's a little bit of urgency to compete.
So given that, I mean, it gives you flexibility for one of those guys to become a trade ship or one of your NHL guys to become a trade ship because there is legitimate talent at the goaltending position.
in both of those guys.
And it wouldn't surprise.
I don't think we're going to see Marishaw any time this year on the NHL roster.
I saw something today, too, that it wouldn't really be surprising to even see him
starting wheeling.
I know that's not ideal for his situation, but it might just be, you know,
getting the starting reps versus having to split with Blumquist and, and Wilkesbury.
So it'll be interesting to see how they handle that.
But I do think we're going to see Joel Blumquist sometime this year.
And, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if that's sooner than we think.
It definitely wouldn't surprise me for either of the goaltenders to see them step into a larger role, whether it is with Wilkes-Barre or even with the NHL roster, just because the talent is very much there.
And they very much don't, I think, except save for Murshov, who still has to start his professional career in North America.
but it does feel like both of them are starting to fit into the category of not having a whole lot left to prove at the minor league level.
But very exciting.
We got hockey back.
Penguins are back in town.
Training camp is here.
But that'll do it for this first segment.
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All right, welcome back to the Wednesday edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast.
I am your host Patrick Damp while Hunter Hodes remains cooking somewhere on a beach right now.
I am joined by Kelsey Sermats of the hockey news.
And in our first segment, we talked about the present opening day, training camp is
finally back, the boys are back in town, all the cliche.
that you may want to use on a day like today.
But you also had a piece recently on the hockey news
where you are doing some incredible work, I must say.
And you and your cohorts kind of talked about some breakout candidates
that you're looking at for this upcoming season.
And obviously, we all know you can't glean anything from day one,
a training camp.
It's everyone knocking the rust off and figuring everything out.
But that's not going to stop us.
from talking about some breakout candidates for the upcoming season.
So one of the players that you had on your list that I have been saying a lot,
and it's going to come out later this month,
you'll be able to find it here on our feed on Locked on Penguins.
I was part of the Metropolitan Division preview for all the teams that sadly didn't make the playoffs,
which the Penguins won.
This guy I brought up is a player to watch in the Metro,
and that is Rutger McGroarty.
I am beyond excited for this kid, and you have been doing a lot of study on him.
So why do you have Rucker McGority as one of your breakout candidates?
I think just in general, he looks NHL ready.
I just even watching him today, I mean, I know, again, it's training camp.
You can't read too much into things.
But he looked to fit right in with Drew O'Connor, Sam Pullen, both guys with, I mean,
ample NHL experience at the same.
time or at this point. So there's that, but also even during the Prospects challenge,
I just, when I was watching him, he just looked a step ahead of everybody else, kind of just a
level above everybody else. And I know you paid a lot attention to the Prospects Challenge as well.
So I don't know if you would agree with me there, but it just seems like I absolutely would.
I mean, watching, I said it on the show. I said it in some writings. That is exactly what you
wanted to see from him. And we'll obviously talk about a little bit of the prospects
challenge to end the show. But just real quickly, the thing I noticed was exactly what you
wanted to notice from him. Like he didn't belong there. And in the best way of where like,
okay, you don't need to be in this tournament. You don't need to be with this roster because
you're ready to take the next step into professional hockey. Yeah. And that's the exact
sentiment that I had watching him. He just looked like he was a level above everybody else.
And I actually think I used that exact verbiage too in my post that he just looked like he didn't belong there.
And he looked like he belonged at a higher level.
So I just think his hockey IQ for, you know, especially someone his age is off the charts.
He's a smart player.
He knows exactly where to be and how to put himself in position to make plays.
You don't see him really like roam in the offensive zone and figuring out.
what he's supposed to be doing there.
I mean, it's actually pretty crazy to watch him just kind of assert himself in that way.
And on that note, too, I mean, that's why I think the reason I picked him as a breakout candidate,
I have a feeling he's going to make the roster.
I know that there's a little bit of waiver exemption that kind of plays into that.
So that's obviously, you know, a definitely big factor because there are.
a lot of guys that aren't waiver exempt.
So that's definitely something to consider.
But I just think he belongs there.
And even if he starts on the third line,
he's someone, I think, I could see that slots right next to Crosby.
He's kind of the kind of winger that sort of profiles well with him.
He plays a physical game.
You know, he's not afraid to shy away from driving the net.
Like I said, he puts himself in position to make plays.
he's obviously got the shot.
So there's just a lot to like about him.
And I really think that if and when he does get on this roster at some point this season,
I think he's going to make an impression pretty quickly.
I don't think the adjustment period for him is going to be, you know,
as taxing and as grueling as it is for some others because he just looks to already be there.
And I obviously absolutely agree with you.
The other end of the coin that I think I said on a recent episode was that the thing we have to keep in mind is that he is making a pretty massive bet on himself getting out of Winnipeg with Winnipeg saying, hey, we don't think you're quite NHL ready yet.
We want to put you in the minors.
We want you to develop a little bit longer.
And he disagrees.
So at the end of the day, there is still a lot riding for him to become a professional hockey player, especially at the highest level.
So I think you mix that motivation with where his skill level is and all the ingredients are there for him to be an impact player for the Pittsburgh Penguins in one way or another.
One other player in this is, you know, very similar showing how I think our brains work pretty similarly when it comes to the way we analyze this team is Eric Carlson.
And I have been, I guess, manning this hype train for the better part of a few months, especially since.
the latter half of last year and into right now.
You know, I think the longer he was with the team, the more comfortable he got,
we really started to see the true Eric Carlson rather than what we saw when the season
first began and into the middle part of the season.
And then you factor in the fact that Quinn is now one of the coaches on the coaching staff
and is going to have a lot of impact on the power play, given their history together.
I think a lot of ingredients are in place for Eric Carlson to really become maybe not the 100 plus point guy we saw in San Jose, but point per game player close to it.
And really the catalyst that I think could knock this Penguin's power play out of its slumber.
Absolutely.
And I think the Quinn factor is a really big one.
and honestly, I mean, I'm not inside Mike Sullivan's head,
and Kyle Dubas's head.
But when you're thinking about this move, I mean, Carlson is such an integral part of that power play.
And the fact that they brought in Quinn to work with defensemen to work on the power play,
I think that that kind of, it was almost like, it feels like a hire that was made for Carlson.
I know that's not the only thing that went into it, obviously.
but, you know, I think there's a lot to be said there.
And something I would like to see happen, I guess, on that note, with Carlson and the powerplay,
I just think the power play needs to run through him more.
And I think that was part of the issue last year because I think on his part,
you kind of noticed some hesitancy and some deferral to guys like Crosby and Malkin.
I mean, Eric Carlson deferring to Crosby and Malkin seems a little crazy,
but at the same time, like these guys have been here for 16 years,
he's walking into a situation where they already have that legacy factor.
So first of all, I mean, I think it takes defensemen a while to adjust to new systems.
And it's the same case with Ryan Graves, like you hope to see a little improvement this year,
just based on him being a full year into the system, having a little bit more sheltered minutes.
But in the case of Carlson, we really saw what they were trading.
for at the end of last season and that stretch run.
He was really good for the penguins.
And I think having Quinn there and hopefully him being able to activate him more on
that power play and hopefully get more out of him five on five in terms of being a little
bit more aggressive, not necessarily in his risk taking, but more so, you know, driving the
middle, kind of shooting from the slot a little bit more.
We didn't really see that much last year.
he started to get his confidence at the end of last year.
So hopefully having Quinn around will kind of help him find that part of his game again
and give him a little bit of confidence to just do his thing, so to speak.
Because I don't think he did enough of his thing last year.
And he felt a little bit held back.
But I think we're going to see him more comfortable and more confident Eric Carlson
and definitely more active on the power play.
At least that's the hope.
Yeah, that was my biggest critique, I guess, or analysis for improvement for the power play going into next year, is that whether it would have been whatever coach, if it had not been Quinn, if they hired whomever, would just to come in and say, listen, Eric Carlson is the general of this power play.
It runs through him.
He runs it.
Sid, go work your magic behind the net.
Cros.
Yeah, Sid, work your magic behind the net.
Gino on the wall, do your thing, and let Eric Carlson run this, and we will go from there.
And I think that with Quinn in the fold and just another year under his belt, I think that's what we will see from him coming up this year.
But overall, I mean, I think that to build off a little bit of what your article said, I think that this is a sneaky year for the Penguins.
I think there's a chance they could surprise a lot of the league.
and this could be a much better team going into this year.
But that is yet to be seen.
We still have an entire training camp and preseason to get through.
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All right, welcome back to the Wednesday edition of Locked-on Penguins.
I'm Patrick Damp, filling in as Hunter Hodes is off cooking on the beach, as I have said.
And joining me today is the one and only Kelsey Sermats.
And because you and I are both absolute sickos, we made sure to watch the Penguins
prospect challenge in Buffalo because what else is there to do in early September when we've been
in a great stretch of weather in Pittsburgh, then sit inside and watch a bunch of guys who might
or might not make the NHL. But it was a very, very successful prospects challenge for the penguins.
I kind of did a quick and dirty overview of it yesterday here on Locked on Penguins. Penguins go three and
know they get their second straight championship out of the Buffalo Prospects challenge and had a
couple doozies of games, especially the finale, 8-5 over Buffalo back and forth game.
But I wanted to ask you this because I think it's going to be very similar to mine.
Who were some of your standouts from those few games in Buffalo?
Yeah.
So I think the obvious answer here is Shurston Brose.
he's a guy I think is honestly flying a little bit under the radar this year in terms of, you know, his ability to make the roster.
Again, it's one of those things they just have a logjam of forwards.
There's so many guys competing for so few spots.
I can't see him cracking the NHL roster.
But I think he kind of proved this past weekend that he's at least more ready than I thought he was.
he looked like you know just kind of like
like migrorty that he was just kind of a step ahead of everybody else
and he really showed off his shot
which his shot's impressive
and yeah he he was kind of the big standout for me
but another guy I think kind of flew under the radar a little bit
was Vassili Panamara
you know he only got in a score sheet twice
he registered excuse me registered a goal and an assist
but I think he did some great work in all three
zones. I was very impressed with his work on special teams, especially, had some great reads on
the PK, some great stick work. He was getting in passing lanes, and he's a great four checker
too. He just plays with kind of like Lazot, like a lot of energy, a lot of tenacity. He isn't
the biggest guy. Size isn't a huge thing for him. But I do like the way, you know, he wins every
puck battle on the boards.
and he meshed really well with Magority as well.
So I was impressed by him.
I definitely think that, you know,
if you're looking ahead to the next couple years,
he's somebody that I could definitely see
as a third-line center.
And I know that's what a lot of people,
you know, when he was traded over from Carolina last year
in the Jake Gensel trade,
a lot of Keynes fans were echoing the same kind of sentiments,
saying, like, look, we're upset to lose this guy.
He's a legit three-seat.
you know, ceiling options.
So I would really love to see him get some time on the NHL roster this year
because I think he could really be a spark plug for the bottom six.
And like I said, his play, work in all three zones was outstanding, I thought.
Yeah, there was a lot of positives to glean,
especially from all of the names that we wanted to watch and see the McGrorties,
Tristan Brose, the Jake Gensel trade guys,
and the goalies as well, I think they did very well.
But the under the radar name I spoke about a little bit yesterday,
and I wanted to get your thoughts on it, is Avery Hayes.
I was, I thought nothing of Avery Hayes.
I'll be completely honest with our listeners.
He was so under the radar that I don't think I've mentioned his name once going into it.
And he came out of the tournament looking like one of the better prospects in the Penguin's
system. And it's such a classic penguins guy in this era because undrafted, did all right in
juniors, then gets signed to an AHL deal in Wokes Bear, gets hurt, misses a good bit of last
year, and then all of a sudden just explodes onto the scene with a great performance and the
challenge. Absolutely. And I mean, I think another thing to make note of there, I don't think
it's an accident that he was paired with Ponomar of and Magrorty either. Um,
he was the third guy on that line and he didn't look out of place at all with those two.
He was keeping right up with them.
Obviously, he had the hat trick and the final game there too, four points.
So, I mean, he was locked in and same here.
I mean, he wasn't really on my radar before this.
Obviously, the injuries played a part last year.
And even aside from the injuries, he only had six goals, nine points, 27 games.
So, I mean, there was nothing to write home about,
with Hayes last season, his junior seasons.
He did have a 40-goal season in the OHL.
But, you know, that's what training camp's all about.
That's what this stuff's all about.
There's always that one guy, those one or two guys,
that really, you know, surprise you in a good way.
And Hayes was definitely that guy.
He was, I'd say probably right up there with the minorities
and the Pantamarovs and all the guys that you expected to see do well.
And just on a side note, too, I know a lot of people have kind of been asking about Owen Pickering.
And I think, at least from my perspective, watching that tournament, there was a lot of good in the offensive zone.
I still think he has some work to do in the defensive zone.
But, I mean, in training camp today, I thought he was one of the better players.
He was kind of another standout.
You can definitely see he's getting more comfortable manning the point.
in the offensive zone.
So he's someone else to watch,
but for me anyways,
watching the prospect challenge,
he was a bit of a mixed bag.
Yeah, that was kind of where I was with him,
is that I liked a lot of what I saw offensively,
but as much as we,
and maybe not so much we,
but more just the hockey world in general,
kind of says like,
hey, if you're going to be an offensive defenseman in the NHL,
unless you're an Eric Carlson type,
you do have to have at least some modicum of a defensive game there.
And once he rounds that out,
I do think there is a lot there,
a lot of potential there for pickering.
And you know what?
The future may not be so bright that we need sunglasses right now,
but the lamp is definitely on.
It definitely looks like for once we finally have a group of players in the system
to actually look forward to.
So that was all extremely encouraging.
but before we head out of here, Kelsey, let everybody know where they can find you,
what work you got coming up, and anything else you might want to promote.
Yeah, so you can follow me, Kelsey underscore Sarmats 4 on X,
and you can also find me on the hockey news, the penguin site right there.
I also contribute for Draft Nation.
So find me on both of those sites and follow my updates on training camp.
I will be there the whole time.
I definitely will be and we're looking forward to it. Kelsey, always happy to have you on the show.
This will absolutely not be the last time. You are definitely going to be coming back for more episodes throughout the season.
We always enjoy having you on the show and appreciate the work that you do.
But that is going to do it for the Wednesday edition of the Locked-on Penguins podcast.
Surprise Hunter will be joining me tomorrow from the beach.
I will probably have us a guest on Friday to do some training camp week one wrap-ups.
But for now, thank you as always for tuning in.
We'll be back with a brand new episode for you on Thursday.
