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Episode Date: July 10, 2024The Pittsburgh Penguins development camp is officially in the books and it's time to see who stood out. Hunter and Patrick discuss the top performers of the camp and how Sergei Murashov was going off ...during the tournament on Wednesday. They also discuss how Brayden Yager and Owen Pickering played, plus where Murashov could play next season if he signs his ELC. After that, they do a post-July 1 look at the Metropolitan Division and who the contenders are versus who the pretenders are. Finally, the day has come...CapFriendly is officially offline and Hunter and Pat discuss what that means for the Penguins, as well as how it's a major loss for NHL fans. They also discuss which websites will have to step up in its place.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!eBay MotorsFor parts that fit, head to eBay Motors and look for the green check. Stay in the game with eBay Guaranteed Fit at eBayMotors.com. Let’s ride. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNHL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply.FanDuelFanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook. As playoffs wind down, the sports stop sporting like we want them to. But this summer, FanDuel is hooking up ALL CUSTOMERS with a boost or a bonus, DAILY! That’s right, there’s something for everyone, every day, all summer long! Visit FANDUEL.COMand add a big win to your summer bucket list!FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.c Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Penguins Development Camp wrapped up on Wednesday,
and there were definitely some players that stood out.
Pat and I are going to discuss which of those players did that right after this.
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So Penguins Development Camp wrapped up with a tournament on Wednesday,
and it was awesome seeing all the top prospects go at it.
But in the end, there could only be one winner,
and that is Team 1 with goaltender Sergey Muroshov,
defenseman Owen Pickering, and also defenseman Harrison Brunick.
They have won the Michelle Breyer Cup, as well as the rest of their team as well.
And the star, I think, of this tournament overall has to be Sergey Muroshov,
with the way he was playing throughout.
I will say following the coverage of both Eric Majesky and Taylor Haas was spectacular.
They do such a great job with Development Camp every year.
If you are not following them on social media or D.K. Pittsburgh Sports for Taylor,
you're doing it wrong.
They both provide tremendous coverage of this.
And by the looks of it, Miroshov was making every save out there.
And the only player to beat him today, Pat, Braden Yeager.
Best on best in that situation.
but just really impressive from Murashov throughout development camp.
And I guess hashtag Miroshov watch is kind of on at this point to see if he signs his ELC this year
or if he goes back to Russia to play for his hometown team.
I'm very curious to see what he does the rest of this summer because while yes,
I have said it on the show that development camp is just glorified practice for the most part.
It's just these guys getting into a more professional environment than they're used to.
because you see it if you follow development camp throughout the week.
All the big names are there.
All the coaches from both the NHL club, the AHL club,
as well as the ECHL club are all in attendance.
Obviously, all of management is there as well, keeping an eye on it.
So this is a more professional environment for those guys.
And I think Murashov really wanted to, and he even said it himself,
get more of an idea of what the transition to America,
or North American professional hockey is like.
So I'm very curious to see what he does.
But by all accounts throughout camp,
he impressed everybody.
He,
you know,
if you follow Michelle Creckiolo on Twitter,
Penn's Inside Scoop,
she talked to a lot of players about Murashov,
and they were all just raving about his performance.
To the point you even had one of the guys,
I believe it was Owen Pickering,
in fact,
and said, oh, I met him. He looked very good, see him play. It was great. Then I looked at his elite
prospects page and realized, oh, my God, this guy is really good. So I think the penguins may have
found themselves a diamond in the rough here if they can get him over to North America,
but they will have to have a frank conversation with him to say that, listen, chances are you're
probably going to start in the ECHL because we want to get you consistent playing time. Because if he goes
to the AHL, he's going to get backup minutes, and he's certainly not going to be NHL ready
anytime soon. So if he wants to make the transition over to North American professional
hockey, it's probably going to be at the ECHL level. But I don't think there's a bad path
for him. If he wants to come over, play in the ECHL, get his feet wet in North America,
not a bad decision by him. But if he wants to go back to Russia, he'll probably get
KHL time, which as we've said, probably the second best pro league on the planet.
So that'll also aid in his development.
But we also know how difficult it can be once you sign with a KHL team to get out of it and come to the NHL.
We talked about that with Haley Taylor Simon last week with the flyers and everything that they're
going.
They went through with Mitch Cobb.
So very curious to see what he does, but very encouraged by what I saw.
Right, and we discussed that earlier this week.
We think Wheeling definitely would be the place for Marischavdiot,
just because when you look at Wilkespray right now, Pat,
it's kind of a tandem of Larson and Blumkus,
especially if the Penguins going to next season with both Jari and Adelkevich.
I think there's a very good chance of that,
considering how I think most teams are done making moves at the goaltender position right now.
I mean, I know it's still only July 10th,
but I think most teams are pretty set at the position heading into next season.
So I feel like that's going to be the tandem for the penguins for next season.
And then, again, you have the other two goals in Wilkeshire.
The wheeling job, I think, is a lot more open for Murashav compared to Wilkeshire.
So I think that would make the most sense.
And I did love seeing Pickering talk about Murashav.
When you look at those quotes, it feels like he barely knew who he was before this development camp.
And then I think when he saw him play, he was like, okay, this kid is the real deal.
And I also loved seeing the competitive spirit of some of these guys, you know, Brunick, Pickering, Yeager, Murashav.
it felt like they were really taking this tournament pretty seriously.
They loved winning the Michelle Breyer Cup.
And I think even Tom Costopoulos said this to the media after he even said,
like you could tell some of the players were a bit upset that they didn't win this.
And I think this is only going to help them as they continue their development for the rest
this year heading into next year.
Well, it's a classic Mike Tomlinism, but iron sharpens iron.
And you also keep in mind that, yeah, as much as I say this is glorified practice,
This is a chance to make an impression on the coaching staff and management that if you're a younger player and you want to turn pro or make that next step in your development, this is the place to do it.
And yeah, these guys should most of them stay in the system, will end up being teammates at some point.
But in development camp, you're competing against every other player on the ice.
You have to make an impression.
You have to show that you have value as a potential pro and a potential option in the penguin system.
should your name get called. So you end it in one of the most competitive environments with a
four-on-four tournament with, yeah, it's the Michelle Breyer Cup, which I don't think any of us knew
that was the name until today. But at the same time, if you're in that tournament and you're in
this camp and they put you in that situation, they're evaluating what you're like in highly
competitive situations. And it's a good chance and a good time for you to stand out as a prospect.
And by all accounts today, everybody was full go.
There was no, ah, it's the end of the week.
We had a fun week together at development camp.
We went to a Pirates game.
We played pickleball.
We did a fun little community event at Dick's sporting goods.
No, this was their chance to come out and say,
I want to be a part of this organization and I want to be a professional hockey player.
Right.
No, I agree with you.
And it was just a lot of fun following it and seeing, you know,
who's taking a lot of strides with their development.
And I can't wait to see how this continues, you know, heading into August,
heading into training camp in September, see if some of these younger guys can really stick
around and make it really hard on Mike Sullivan, the coaching staff to really send them down
to the HL, ECAHL, or back to their junior teams in general.
But I do think that will do it for this opening segment.
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All right.
we're back here in this episode of the Lockdown Penguins podcast.
I'm one of your host, Hunter Hodes,
joined by my co-Cost Patrick Dam.
So we haven't done a look at the Metropolitan Division in quite a while.
So let's take a look at who we think are at least the contenders for this division
heading into the 2024- 2025 season.
Pat, I said it around this time last year.
I'll say it again now.
I was mostly right at the time.
I got one of the teams in the top three wrong.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
And I think this year, I'll say it again, give me the Rangers, the Hurricanes, and the Devils in the top three for this division.
I know I got the Devils wrong last year.
They didn't get good goaltending.
They were very banged up.
The Islanders ended up getting the number three seed in the Metro this year.
But as long as New Jersey stays healthy, they get good play from Jacob Markstrom.
I do think they're going to be back in the playoff mix and make the playoffs.
I do think Carolina is set to take a step back this year.
I don't think they have enough goal scoring in the lineup overall,
but I still think this is a playoff team when you look up and down that lineup.
I also like a couple of the moves they made on defense.
For example, they signed Shane Gostis Bear.
I really liked that move.
And they also got Sean Walker,
one of my favorite players from Free Agency.
He can play on the right or the left side.
That's a really good fit for Carolina down there.
And the Rangers,
they really haven't done too much yet.
They've been kind of quite,
you know, obviously they acquired Riley Smith from the Penguins.
But still,
This has been a very quiet offseason from the Rangers.
They sign same character to be their fourth line center.
They have the same defensive group right now.
We have to see what happens with Jacob Trubo.
That's a very messy situation to say the least up in New York.
But I think when I look at the Metro right now, those are my top three heading into next season.
I would agree with you.
I think though at this point, I would probably put Carolina third just because I look at a lot
of what walked out the door for them.
And you think about the names they lost.
Gensel, not that big of a deal.
They didn't really have him long term.
Obviously, that was a go-for-it move on their part.
And I think we all kind of, in the back of our minds, knew that's what it was going to be,
because you knew he was going to be able to get paid on July 1st, and he obviously
was from Tampa Bay.
But you also lose Tara Vinen, Brett Peshy and Brady Shea.
And as much as I like Walker and,
Gostis Bear, I don't think they're, at the very least, or at the very most, excuse me,
those are lateral moves.
And then the big dog for me in the metro this year is New Jersey, because they have had
a wonderful offseason.
And then you add in the fact that they finally have a coach that's going to match the talent
that they have in Sheldon Keith.
They solved their goaltending problem.
And assuming they get, they stay healthy, it works.
in tandem with their goaltending where they don't need Markstrom and Allen to be great.
They just have to be good enough.
And everybody else on that roster will make up the difference.
And this is not your dad's New Jersey Devils teams.
They aren't a slow it down, clog it up, play defense.
They are fast.
I mean, Pat, we've seen that firsthand over the last couple of years.
The Devils have speedbagged the Penguins and most.
these games just because the penguins have not been able to keep up with them.
And almost quite literally, because they play the game at 100 miles an hour for 60 minutes
and not a lot of teams can keep up with that.
And really on paper, you look at them and this is probably the best team in the Metropolitan
Division.
As for the Rangers, it's been quiet, but the flaws are still there.
Their defense is okay.
I don't, I know we hate on them for different reasons, but Truba,
is fine enough, but he's making way too much money for the role they need him to play.
And they haven't really done anything to address that need.
And they can't really move the puck all that well from the back end.
And they're going to have to rely on once again, power play and Igor Shisterkin.
And as we know in the playoffs, that's not a good thing to lean on because you run into a team that can kill penalties well.
And that pretty much takes away your one advantage.
combined at all.
I mean, I think right now the penguins are, if they want to get in, which I think both of us agree,
this might be a third straight year of missing the playoffs.
They're going to have to battle it out with Washington, who has made a lot of really good moves.
And while I don't think Washington is any sort of actual contender, they're a bona fide
playoff team now with all the moves they made.
And you just look at, it's been a very good offseason for them.
I know everybody has their qualms about PLD.
I still do too.
But for what this team is trying to do at this moment,
that is a very easy risk to take.
And then you add in Mangiopani, Matt Roy, Jacob Chickren.
All of a sudden, this is a Caps team that could make some noise,
especially once they get their cap figured out.
And we know that the New York Islanders,
they're always going to be there.
You can look at their moves and say,
I don't really like it,
but that team has some sort of black magic that keeps them hanging around.
And this is going to be a very challenging season for the penguins.
But should they figure out the power play,
should Jari and Adelkevich get the right kind of workload and hold up?
You've still got good top end talent.
You can be in the mix for this.
But it's going to be very difficult and I would say extremely unlikely for them to crack the top three of the division.
Right.
You kind of took that next point right out of my mouth a little bit.
The penguins are in that next year of teams in the Metropolitan Division,
those kind of okay to middling teams overall.
Washington, I think of those okay middling teams,
I think Washington right now is the best.
If I had to make a prediction right now,
I would say Washington will get fourth in the metro.
And they're making these moves, I think,
to at least make the playoffs in Ovechkin's final two years under contract.
Obviously, they're still very much trying to help them go get the goal record.
I think he's going to get it either this year or next year.
It's going to be sometime over these next couple years that Ovechkin's going to get the goal record,
and it's going to be pretty awesome to see.
But I at least understand the vision that Washington has by trying to at least get playoff hockey out of Ovechkin two more times before I would think he probably retires.
So I have Washington number four.
I also do like their offseason.
I think after Ovechkin retires, I think Washington could go off a cliff a little bit, but I think they're right now, fourth in the metro.
Fifth, if I had to pick one, the Islanders.
I really do like that Anthony Duclair signing from Lou Lamarro.
I think that's one of the best moves of the offseason.
They're hoping that Ilius Sorokin bounces back a little bit after struggling this past year.
I mean, Semion Varwamov basically took the starting job from him a little bit down the stretch.
So I'll be curious to see how Sorokin plays.
Obviously, Matt Barzel, very electric with a puck on his stick.
Noah Dobson's great from the back end.
Yes, they do play kind of that boring style a little bit, but you know what you're going
going to get from them every year. They're going to be in consideration for a playoff spot.
And then I kind of have the Penguins and the Flyers right there, six and seven over if I had to
pick one. Maybe I have the Penguins at six, Flyers at seven. But the Flyers, they're going to be
in the race. I think again this year, Pat, they really showed me something this past season.
They ran out of gas at the end. I think they're going to be all in on Tortoralla system again.
And they have Michkov now. So that's going to be really fascinating to see how the Flyers play.
then bottom, I think if there's a bottoms here, I'm sorry to say Columbus, I think you're down there.
I really don't think Columbus is going to be that good again this season.
So top three, those are the contenders.
And then I feel like it's just, again, kind of a lot of okay middling to kind of flat out,
meh in a division.
And then you kind of have Columbus down there in the basement, if I had to guess.
Yeah, Columbus is definitely a solid eight for me at this point.
I'm curious to see what they do with Patrick Line,
because I think this is going to be, for Columbus fans at least, an underwhelming trade,
when you have a guy like him who has the talent that he has,
but once out, once a fresh start, you know that you're not going to be really able to get a ton of value for that,
even though he's still pretty young, still has an elite shot, can still score goals.
But when other teams know that you're looking to make that move,
they're not going to offer you the sun and the moon for them.
But then you look at them as well away from just that aspect.
This is a team position to be really good in three to four years.
They've got a ton of very good young prospects on the way.
They've got some talent in the roster right now.
And should they stay this course and not do the Columbus thing that they've done for years,
which is make puzzling moves when they seem to be on the right track,
this team will be right back in the mix in a few years.
And I think Waddell being there is going to only aid in that,
even if some of his moves this summer were kind of curious.
You can tell he's thinking with two tracks here.
One, I've got to put an NHL team on the ice.
I've got to go get certain players just to fill out the roster,
even if they really don't fit.
But don't do it at the expense of getting rid of your draft picks,
your young talent,
and your prospects, which he hasn't really done.
it would have been nice to see Monahan go to a different team,
but maybe that's a guy that can work with some of the younger players
and give Columbus fans something to cheer about.
Obviously, Johnny Goddrow is still there.
So we'll see what happens with them,
but I do think this is going to be another painful year.
And the same thing goes for the Flyers.
I don't think they're going to make the playoffs,
but I think they're going to make noise again.
I'm very curious.
You brought up the Tortorella part.
I'm very curious to see how Mitchkov meshes with him,
because we know that Tortorella has not a great track record of dealing with young talent,
especially if they don't fall right into line.
And while I don't think there's any character issues with Michkov, there's always a clash
with John Tortorella.
So we'll see.
But those are two teams to me that are in the same similar spot.
They're going to be lower in the division, but they have a lot of talent coming and they are
going to be very good in a couple of years.
Towards the system, I feel like always wears thin after a couple of years anyway.
So I feel like this might be the year where the flyers, again,
they're still very much in the race in towards the system.
But I think the year after that, the wheels may calm off a little bit.
And towards, I hate to say it, just because he doesn't have that long of the shelf life as a coach.
He might dine himself with a different job just because when you look at the history of some of his teams,
they tend to go down the longer that he's there overall.
Again, he's not even usually there that long overall.
Anyway, then as for Columbus, they still need to hire their next head coach, whether that's
Saul, like Dean Edison, Jay Woodcroft.
I'm curious to see who they go after for their new head coach.
And just to put a bow on this for the penguins, I do think there's at least a path there
for this team to potentially make the playoffs as a wildcard team.
I don't expect them to make the playoffs, but there's a path having the core keep producing
at the level they're producing, especially bunting and Malkin together.
I think Malkin, with how rejuvenated he was at the end of this past season, having a full
season next to Bunting, I think could do wonders for him.
Sidney Crosby put up 90 plus points.
That's big.
Eric Carlson, how does he do?
And if the power play is able to at least be average, they can make some noise through
there.
And also, you know, what happens with some of these reclamation projects?
Does Anthony Bavillier find his goals growing touch again that he had a couple of years ago?
Does Matt Grislich, excuse me, find the fountain of youth after he was one of the best,
I wouldn't say one of the best, excuse me.
I think one of the most underrated defensemen in the league as soon as a couple of years ago.
So it's going to be interesting to see if all of that, you know, you can combine all that,
all that happens.
And then I think there's at least a way for the penguins to potentially sneak their way in,
even though, again, I still think they have quite a few more needs right now.
But I think that I'll do it for the second segment of today's episode coming up to end the show.
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All right, we're back here on this episode of the Lockdown Penguins podcast.
I'm one of your host, Hunter Hodes, joined by my host Patrick Dam.
So, Pat, as I tease, the day has finally come.
Cap-friendly is no longer up as it's been taken down because it has been officially purchased by the Washington Capitals.
it is another good reason for Penguins fans to hate the Capals
and every other rival team of the Capals do not like them either.
And what this means for the Penguins,
I really don't think that much.
I was listening to 32 thoughts a few weeks ago
when they first kind of were discussing the news.
And Elliot Freeman reported that Kyle Dubus has started putting in a system,
kind of like a cap-based system where they do their own projections.
He did say that other teams were using cap-friendly a lot more
than some other teams that have their own internal things.
and the penguins they have their internal things.
So really not much is going to change there.
But for other teams and fans as a whole, this stinks, man.
It always has been such a great resource for so many years.
When I do show prep every single day, I'm on cat friendly,
writing down contracts in my notes,
writing down just how long a player has, etc, etc.
I loved it as a resource.
I know you loved it as a resource.
I'm going to hand this over to you.
How big of a loss is this for the,
NHL community as a whole now that it's no longer up.
It's huge, man.
It's tough.
Like you said, you know, we do show prep for this for a couple hours each on our own when we're getting ready to do an episode.
And cap friendly was always, if not the first, maybe the second or third place you would go to because you wanted to discuss what kind of a contract a guy had.
How much money was he making?
What was the term?
Does he have a no movement clause?
you could easily come up with ideas for trades because you could do salary in, salary out kind of deals against the cap.
And you also was a great resource to see how many draft picks a team had going into the NHL draft,
especially once again, if you're talking trades, okay, does this team have a first?
Do they have a second?
What could they package?
Do they have other picks from other teams?
And it was just a huge part of hockey fandom, especially for those of us who were total and complete nerd.
that want to dive deep into this stuff.
And at the same time, though, you love to see people who do something like this get rewarded.
Yeah, it sucks that it's the Washington Capitals and we got to say that as Penguins fans.
But these guys weren't former NHL employees.
They were just fans who wanted to give hockey fans a resource and they worked their butts off.
They would go to the draft without getting credentialed.
and they would update things from the draft.
They would talk to teams and get things up on their website.
And it ended up with them getting agreements with other franchises to work with them to manage the cap,
to get information about the salary cap.
Like Elliot and Jeff said on 32 thoughts,
there were teams that legitimately used cap friendly in their front office because it was that good of a resource.
So it's really cool at the same time.
it's sad to lose it.
Really cool to see people who put the work in,
provided a valuable resource for fans,
get rewarded, get a job in the NHL
because we talk about how difficult it is
to break into that industry.
And these guys put in relentless, constant work,
and it landed them NHL jobs.
So that's a huge get for the Washington Capitals
and a great success story for the guys
who created cap friendly.
Hell, it was also fun just seeing all the mock GM teams
that people would go up there and do on cat friendly
and just put out there on social media,
Reddit, all the other forums that are out there.
It was always fun seeing fans just cook up hypothetical trades,
just rosters, et cetera.
And I'm going to miss seeing those as well.
I know some of them were a bit nuts,
but I'm still going to miss them as well.
And now all eyes are on Puckpedia, man.
I'm really curious to see how Puppedia does excuse me to fill in the shoes for cat friendly.
And I can only hope that it can be as good of a resource as cat friendly has been.
I will say it is, on one hand, awesome that teams were using cap friendly for the rosters,
but also kind of funny at the same time just because they didn't have their own internal cap structure.
Now I think teams are going to be scrambling a little bit to just make those improvements overall.
I just kind of find that funny a little bit.
Yeah.
And, you know, Puckpedia, it's going to be a little rough at first because you're just not used to it.
Like, keep that in mind when you go to Puckpedia.
It's going to be different.
It's going to be weird because you haven't really gone to it.
I know a lot of people have them speaking generally, obviously.
But they're starting to really put the work in.
They just launched Puck GM, which is a really cool resource.
You can, it's basically their version of armchair.
GM from Puckpedia or from Cap Friendly, excuse me.
And it's a really cool resource.
So when you get frustrated about Cap Friendly not being around anymore, totally get it,
totally understand.
But I promise you go in, check out Puckpedia.
It's different, but it's a very similar resource.
The same as Cap Friendly, hardworking team there that's doing a lot of really
valuable work in getting things put together.
So it's going to take some adjusting, but I'm telling you,
Parkpedia is going to fill the void very, very well.
Right.
And also throw out another site for anyone that's just looking for lines at any given time,
Daily Faceoff.
I think Daily Face Off does a really good job,
keeping everyone up to date with the lines for every single NHL team.
So if you're having trouble finding that information somewhere,
you can always go to Daily Face Off.
They have that updated pretty regularly for everyone out there as well.
But if you don't have anything else to add about cat friendly,
I think that'll do it for today's episode of the Locked-on Penguins podcast.
Thank you all so much for taking the time to listen to slash watch this episode.
Pat and I will be back with another show of you all on Thursday
to give you all the latest news surrounding the Pittsburgh Penguins.
So for Patrick Amp, I am Hunter Hodes.
Thank you all so much for tuning in.
We really appreciate it.
We'll be back on Thursday.
