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You are listening to NFL Kickoff Live, an hour-long weekly show where Jarvis Davis and Kyle Krabs join me, Tanitra Batiste, to break down this week's action and biggest storylines around the NFL. You can catch us live each week from 2 to 3 p.m. Eastern on your favorite Locked On NFL YouTube page. Welcome into Kickoff. It's the best hour of football talk every single Friday. We'll go around the NFL, talk about every team and every game, and we'll get local insight you can't get anywhere but right here at Locked On.

I am Tanitra Batiste, your host, and alongside me are Jarvis Davis and Kyle Krabs. Let's go straight to Thursday night football. Guys, it was an interesting game because it was one of those kind of showdown matchups, right, that we were looking for, not just because these are two teams that are playoff bound, but because these are two teams coming out of the AFC North, which has been, hmm, what we call it, kind of clogged up in a good way, though. It's four teams that are truly battling for the division and battling for the rights, worst case scenario, for wildcard. Now, the thing about this game was this. Yes, the Ravens did walk away with the win. 34-20 was the final, but both teams walked away with losses. Obviously, with the Bengals, it was Joe Burrow with his wrist injury. And of course, with the Ravens, they're unfortunately going to lose what Lamar Jackson

likes to call his WR1. Although we know that Mark Andrews is a tight end, he's going to have season-ending surgery, so that was pretty much a blow to the Ravens, but that wasn't really the story of stories it turns out from that game, right, because we get reports this morning from the NFL that they are investigating Joe Burrow's injury and trying to figure out whether or not there was some shakiness about the Cincinnati Bengals and the injury report this week. They said, quote, that the Bengals had posted a video on ex-Wednesday night of Burrow getting off the team bus wearing what appeared to be a soft cast on his right hand.

They later deleted that post and then Burrow appeared to be hampered by the injury against the Ravens even before leaving the game in the second quarter. So it definitely brings up some questions about whether or not the Bengals gave full disclosure, Kyle, or whether or not there's a little bit more going on with that injury. And I'll tell you, Kyle, Jarvis and I have seen that video and that movie kind of play out twice here in Atlanta, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on how this could impact the Bengals down the road in both instances, the compliance issue, as well as just losing Joe Burrow for a minute overall. Yeah, I think Cincinnati's sitting at five and five and what the rest of their

schedule looks like. If Joe Burrow is going to miss any time at this point, your margin for error was spent up when Joe Burrow was banged up with the calf issue earlier this season. They're really at a point where a wild card, you probably need double-digit wins, so you need to go five and two over this stretch. You play Pittsburgh twice, you play Cleveland, so you're going to have divisional games that you have a chance at, but the margin for error is very small, and Pittsburgh's very opportunistic. They play Pittsburgh next.

Would I trust Jake Browning against the Pittsburgh defense to not turn the ball over? No, absolutely not as far as the compliance issue whoops anytime you delete the video probably give some kind of an inclination that something was a little and Joe started the game with us with with a brace right so um it's one of those things where uh I understand you don't have to get put on the injury report if you don't receive any treatment and you don't miss any reps that's kind of like the the deal with the injury report but if we're traveling on wednesday the night before the game with a soft cast or a brace

or whatever it was joe just decided to strap down on himself he wasn't getting any treatment for that like that that's where i do think it is worth the league kind of kicking the tires here and figuring out what's going on. Yeah, I think so too. And granted Jarvis, the NFL, as we know from the situation from B.

John Robinson to Desmond Ritter, right. When B. John Robinson miraculously wasn't in the game until like the fourth quarter for exactly one play. And there were question marks after that. And so when Desmond Ritter went down with what was thought to be or allegedly was a concussion that like a lot of eyes are raised now granted the NFL said hey we routinely look at these matters of compliance

within the injury report policy but there are some fines where if they think something is a miss could be team fines potentially a lost draft pick. And you got to think, was it that important? I mean, I know this was a very do or die type of game, but Jarvis, for what it might have, what might hamper them, draft picks, fines, and possibly you put pressure on Joe Burrow, where maybe he does not come back and give you Joe Burrow at all for the rest of the season was it I mean was it worth it to be honest with you I mean if they would have handled

it correctly I think we wouldn't even be having this conversation because at the end of the day when you have your head coach talking about oh I wasn't aware like you mean to tell me he wasn't aware that Joe started quarterback, $50 million a year contract quarterback. You don't know what, what's going on with him that he has a soft cast on his, on his throwing, you know, on his,

on his wrist. Like that's, that's just weird. Like, so I think that, you know, because if they would have put him on the injury report as a full participant for the entire week and took him off on Friday,

this, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. So it's just like little things that, you know, like teams like this bring this on themselves. Like Arthur Smith and Atlanta Falcons, they should know. Like if they would have said, hey, you know, going to the trainer, like before the game, hey, B. John's not feeling well. Maybe we can give him some medicine or something like that. This is the last minute report. You know, we just got this information. Go ahead and get out ahead of these things. Like that's how you handle that stuff. And I think that

when you like, like Kyle said, if you deleting videos and stuff and hiding evidence and oh, we'll know a video you're talking about. Oh, I wasn't aware. Like, that's when you look guilty. So, yeah, of course. So I think that, you know, they should handle these questions accordingly. Like, hey, we didn't handle this the right way or let the NFL, you know, let the investigation play out with the NFL and say, hey, y'all can come out shining and brag on, you know, being in the right, like the Falcons did. But I think ultimately, when you have these type of situations, you just got to handle it correctly and get out in front of it. And then I thought you won't be looking crazy at the end of the day. Yeah. And don't get me wrong. A fair is fair. The Steelers had this melee themselves, this little meltdown in 2019,

where they didn't disclose properly. And Ben Roethlisberger got fined 75 grand and Mike Tomlin got fined 25 grand. So we do know what happens. And sometimes it's like playing chestnut checkers. So we get that, but you got to think about maybe that ultimate cost. If it does not work out your way, like you said, worked in the favor of the Falcons, they pushed forward, but you never know how this one is going to play out. Now, the other interesting part of that as well, is just like you mentioned, Casey, it drops Cincinnati down to five and five. Baltimore improves to eight and three. You got the Steelers at six and three.

You got the Browns at six and three. But you have a Browns team that while they're hosting the Steelers, they're going to do so without the services of one Deshaun Watson, who has officially been ruled out for the season. Because, of course, he had to have season-ending shoulder surgery. So does all of this kind of play into the hands of, and not to mention, how it's going to impact Lamar Jackson with Mark Andrews being down for the count? And don't forget, Odell Beckham was questionable in his return, too. How do all of these things kind of play out in the Steelers' favor, if at all? Pittsburgh's been a team that has just been super opportunistic. They don't overwhelm you in any capacity. They are very clunky offensively.

They don't run a very exotic scheme. They don't dress stuff up. They get critiqued for running the same five concepts over and over and over again. And yet, lo and behold, they get a bunch of key turnovers. Now the schedule's breaking their way where you're talking about facing Dorian Thompson-Robinson this week and potentially facing Jake Browning next week. You're already 6-3, Baltimore getting bagged up in the skill group. And that was Pittsburgh won that game the first time that they played anyway, I think.

So that was like the 17-10 game or whatever it was, Pittsburgh's schedule looks pretty favorable. And if you just look at the remaining strength of schedule that they have, it's middle of the pack, but they have some good breaks with the tougher teams on their schedules that starting quarterbacks not being in the game. I think Pittsburgh really has a chance to make a run here. If not the division, if Baltimore is able to take their injuries in stride, be the team that separates from the other two teams in the AFC North.

Indeed. And right now, J.D., they are at the top of the wildcard pack for the AFC and a couple other things. Having a healthy Cam Hayward, that is impressive. And Pat Fryer, who was cleared, he's now in his 21-day window, so there are also some things that are breaking the Steelers' way as far as the health of this team on both sides of the ball. Well, I trust one side of the football, that's the defensive side, because you got a guy like T.J. White who can just absolutely just wreck a game. Those are the type of guys I can trust, but when you go on to the offensive side of the football, okay, Jalen Warren, Najee Harris, you know, Kenny Pickett, you know, all of those guys, they seem like they're starting to catch the stride

because the weird thing about the Pittsburgh Steelers, like they've given up more points than they've scored. So it's just like, right. And it's so crazy for them to be where they are right now. Like we're talking about them potentially taking over this division because of giving their upcoming schedule. So it's just hard for me to trust that. And then I judge.

I'm a simple guy. I like to judge teams by their quarterbacks. I don't trust Kenny Pickett. And I dang sure don't trust the offensive coordinator in Matt Canada. So that's kind of where I'm at with it. Now, granted, there's some good things happening on the defensive side of the football. I trust those cats all day, every day, especially the guy that put their hands in the dirt and sat the quarterback. But when it comes to the offensive side, it's just a little tough for me to get on board with that.

Now, what I'm going to be interested in seeing is whether or not maybe trusting them more is sometimes if you're the squeaky wheel, Kyle, that's how you get the oil. George Pickens. So the fact that George Pickens is having his moment of Keyshawn Johnson, give it a damn. Oh, maybe that kind of fires things up. I'm thinking of practice. And when you get into the space where slowly but surely, eventually you get back your one at full strength, Deontay Johnson, I think that makes a difference as well. And listen, the Steelers are a team, no matter who's at wide out, who really does always rely on the tight end. And there were really moments where Pat Friermuth was able to dig Kenny Pickett out of the mud, dig it out of the mud for

him. So I think maybe those things will kind of play favorably to the Steelers as time goes on, coupled with the schedule that you just mentioned and the fact that it's not exactly the strongest in the way of strength of schedule. Yeah. And you'd like to think as they get the full compliment of skilled players back, they've had some guys that have stepped into smaller or larger voids with Jalen Warren getting elevated in the backfield. And he's caught like 30, 30 something passes already this season. He's got like 62 targets. Now he's only caught 33 of those 62 targets. So your percentage of catchable balls and the plays that you're able to make in the separation that he's able to make is a different story altogether. But George is very much that player that they'll take their shots down the sideline with him and try to create some big plays. You'd like to think when you get the full compliment back,

they can maybe space the field a little bit better. And I did think George coming out of Georgia was a player who was a outside receiver, contested catch, possession type player. If you can space the field and stress it better, then he can find more space to be a possession player and have more high efficient targets in the passing game instead of just throwing in the ball. So I'd like to think if Pittsburgh's going to get this thing to catch fire, that's going to be a big catalyst for them because they are getting some guys back. And Jarvis with them, getting those guys back, but with the Browns dealing with the challenges that they face, Deshaun Watson is the starting point with that, obviously, but how they haven't, what is the opportunity for them to maybe make sure they walk away with a win in this game

so that they can stay in the conversation both for the division because to me still the whole division is in conversation to win the AFC North but also to stay at the top of the heap for the wild card spot yeah I think like when you're talking about you know Dorian Thompson you know Robinson as far as being the quarterback for this team you know he's going to be able to step in for a guy like deshaun watson it's it's going to be hard like and i think it's going to the charge has to be led by this defense right with miles garrett and what the type of season that he's been having and being at just dominating you know teams left and right it's going to have to be led by that defense and i think that

you know dorian thompson is going to just not turn the ball over i. It's going to have to be led by that defense. And I think that, you know, Dorrance Roberts is going to just not turn the ball over. I think that's going to be his one main goal every game. If he doesn't turn the ball over, they're probably going to have a pretty good chance of winning a football game. So if they can figure out how to hone him in and figure out how to move the football, you know, as far as with the running game and keeping games close and shrinking those time possessions for the opposing team.

I really feel like that, you know, the Cleveland will they have an opportunity to at least stay in the conversation, like you said, AOC North. Right. And I think, too, when you have some veteran weapons like especially David Njoku, that that should help you out tremendously. Like you don't have to be the perfect quarterback. You just, like you said, have to be efficient, make sure that you protect the ball and then, you know, just put your team in position because the defense is going to give you opportunities. Defense is going to give you opportunities to win.

You just have to take advantage of those opportunities, I feel like. But yeah, that's going to be an interesting game because like you guys said, the Steelers are a conundrum. I mean mean and probably those numbers are skewed by the fact that they got smoked a couple times you know between uh what is it 49ers and the Titans so when you get smoked twice in nine games it kind of skews but yeah everything about that doesn't shock me when you say that hey teams have outscored them and somehow they're still six and three that's very much the Steelers way because we stay middling.

But anyway, it's almost time for a couple of teams that don't stay middling at all because they are always on top of their game. It is certainly the game that everybody has been waiting for. Our game of the week between the Chiefs and Eagles. We're going to talk about it on the other side. But before we get into that, we have a quick word from Jarvis about PrizePix. This episode of the NFL Kickoff Live show is brought to you by PrizePix. PrizePix is the largest daily fantasy sports platform in North America. How about that? Good Lord, that is amazing. We are the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports.

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We're walking into week 11 with a showdown of effort proportions. It is the Super Bowl rematch that we have all been waiting for between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. But before we talk about it here on the desk, I want to go to Chris Clark of Locked On Chiefs and Gino Camilleri of Locked On Eagles to preview this marquee matchup. Eagles to preview this marquee matchup. Like if they don't, if they don't allow this team to punt, if they don't get one point, I'm going to be so angry that they just sat back and let Pat Mahomes do the same thing. They can't do what happened in February. Take that game plan and throw it in the garbage from a defensive perspective, but just let Jalen Hurts cook. Comes down to QB1.

He has to know that this moment isn't his Super Bowl. It's just another moment to show who this team is and what Jalen Hurts is. That's one of the better QBs, but it's going to be great, man. Pat Mahomes, Andy Reid, we know the storylines. The NFL, you're welcome. You're welcome. A lot of eyes are coming to you because of these two teams. Yeah, this game is going to be fantastic.

I absolutely cannot wait. I've been looking forward to this game since the season, since it came out, when it was going to be. I thought it was going to be a great game. It looks like it's going to be fantastic. The one thing I will say that I'm hateful, I'm a little bit hateful that Nick Bolton won't be able to play in this game because I think that's a big loss for Kansas City,

stopping the run and being able to stop Hurts running the ball and just their offense in general. But other than that, I feel really good about this game. And I will give just a prediction. I'm not going to give a score. I think Kansas City wins, but it's not necessarily for the reason that they won against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. For me, it's the way their defense is playing.

They've allowed one team to score more than 20 points this year, and that was the Denver Broncos. And that was, they gave them a touchdown on a short field. I mean, I'm not going to try to take it away from the Broncos offense, but Kansas City couldn't get anything done that day on offense themselves. But then they also were in a situation where they gave them a short field score. And if you stay away from that, I think Kansas City can slow any defense – or sorry, any offense down, including the Eagles.

And I think that their passing defense is better down, including the Eagles, and I think their passing defense is better than what it was in the Super Bowl, so that's going to be something I'm going to be really excited to see if it plays out. That defense has not allowed points. Can the Eagles be a team that, like they've done all year, against some defenses like at the time, Tampa Bay had a really good run defense. They kind of picked that apart. They've gone against some of these other good defenses like Miami at times has been really good. defense. They kind of picked that apart. They've gone against some of these other good defenses, like Miami at times has been really good. They picked them apart as well.

Dallas didn't make any turnovers when it came to that side of the field. Can they do that again against Kansas City? But like you said, it's a different team, two different teams. It's throughout the record book, that Super Bowl, it was long in the past. These teams have come a long way. They've changed a lot in terms of personnel, the Eagles, in terms of coaching staff. They don't have the same offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator,

but it's going to be what team just can win in the X's and O's. Who's going to be the chess master of this game? That's what it's going to boil down to. I've said that a lot, what it boils down to. That's the epitome of this game. Monday night should be good. Go check out Lockdown Eagles and Lockdown Chiefs until then. All right, guys.

They didn't make any bold predictions per se, but Jarvis Chris did say he would give the win to Kansas City, but he said he'd give it to them for a different reason, not necessarily the way in which they beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Do you agree? Is there obviously there's a path to winning for either one of these teams because it's pretty much even going in, but is this a Chiefs team that can beat the Eagles but beat them in a different way? Wow, that's a good question. I mean I mean because personally I really feel like this is going to come down to the offensive line and defensive line play and I'm a huge fan of

Philadelphia's on both sides of the football so I do see a path for the Kansas City Chiefs to to get in there and and win this game obviously right you know Travis Kelsey you know and uh Patrick Holmes get off we know what that what that combination can do once they get rolling. However, I really feel like this is a game that I think is A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts connection is really been taking on a life of its own. Right. So I think that's going to be something that's going to. And then making sure that I see some call quarterback runs for Jalen Hurst. And I think that's because that's a numbers game, right,

when you're talking about doing that. And I think they're going to be able to take advantage of that front for the Kansas City Chiefs. So right now I do see a path, but I think the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line and defensive line are going to be able to kind of come out on top on this one. And, Kyle, I want to go to something that Gino talked about as well. You know, when you look down the list and the fact that, hey, the Eagles have only lost one game, and I don't know about you guys, but it really wasn't even the Eagles that

lost one game. I feel like it was Jalen Hurts that lost one game against the Jets because he just kept it was like a self implosion, self inflicting wound after wound. And it's interesting because Gino was saying how with Jalen, just don't do too much. Right. Just be who Jalen is. And you have an opportunity there in the absence of a Nick Bolton to be able to take advantage of that. And like Jarvis said, maybe some design run plays for him. But again, I think and Kyle, just want to get your input on that. Is that also a path to the Eagles winning?

In large part, it hinges on Jalen Hurts and whether or not he's just Jalen Hurts and he doesn't try to do too much. Yeah, I think Jalen Hurts has to protect the football in this game. Obviously, that was what you alluded to, Tenitra, where they had the ball and the lead in the final two minutes against the Jets. And he threw the worst pick of the day with the last one. And they ran it all the way back inside the red zone and ended up scoring the game winning points there. But I just look at as somebody whose favorite team has lost to both of these teams in the last month,

I have a pretty good perspective on both these teams. I think Philadelphia is a much more complete football team than what Kansas city is where you think about Kansas City offensively, they're really good with the interior trio and the offensive line, but those two new offensive tackles that they brought in have not performed a standard between Donovan Smith and Jawan Taylor. And that Philly pass rush with all of these guys on the edge and Josh Sweat and they have... We can start and stop with that. I know Jarvis is always chomping at the end of the day. I hear you guys. Hassan Redick was the one whose name I was blanking on.

I think the recipe really is a problem for Kansas City's tackles because he is such a different kind of rusher. If you've got guys in tight alignments and you're going to rush them and you want to challenge them with speed to power, that's a little bit more, you know, two bighorn sheep going at it. But Hasan Reddick, with his versatility and moving around, is really a problem for those offensive tackles. And then Philadelphia, you know, you're answering the questions

for what Kansas City has without Nick Bolton. You have Chris Jones in the middle, and they've got good players with the rest of the group up front, but it's not the wave after wave like Philadelphia has on their front. So I just think, yes, the pathway for Philadelphia winning includes Jalen Hurts taking care of the ball, but I think Philadelphia has exponentially more pathways to winning because of the other talent that they have in the other areas of both of these respective rosters. And I think that's a great point that Kyle makes, Jarvis. The fact that these are also two teams that are not the same as the teams that

played in the Super Bowl. And it makes you think like, okay, well, both of the teams were aggressive and both of them reloaded in the off season and free agency. They made some moves, but it does appear that for the moves that the eagles made both in free agency in the draft class you know they've even made some aggressive moves within the season like towards the trade deadline to maybe to put themselves in position to be that

team that comes out of the nfc right to potentially play that rematch for the chiefs but let me ask you this question what well part one and part two and then Kyle, I want you to weigh in on that as well. But Jarvis, first you, do you see A, that it's going to be the Eagles and the Chiefs as a rematch? Or B, if not, then who comes out of the AFC to play the Eagles or who comes out of the NFC to play the Chiefs? Well, to be honest with you, I think there are only really two other Super Bowl contenders in the NFC that I feel like they can challenge the Eagles. You know, that's the Lions and the San Francisco 49ers. Those are probably the two most consistent teams that I've watched.

I haven't put my eyeballs on this year. I know people want to throw the Cowboys in there. I almost thought made them an honorable mention, but I just don't trust them. I don't. Yeah, I shouldn't, right? I know you probably agree with me on that one, but I think that when you talk about those type of teams, and as far as the AFC side, right, that's the one.

Like, we talked about two, six, and three teams that, and the Steelers and the Browns, they were like, oh, no, necessarily. And then you got the Dolphins with Kyle Kraft. Kyle talked about his favorite team, the Dolphins. Yeah, they look really good. But against teams that are just as good or if not better, they haven't looked all that great. So I put them as honorable mention.

That leaves one team in the AFC really competing with the Chiefs. I feel that's the Baltimore Ravens. And even they've had their issues, especially within the fourth quarter of games. So I think that, yes, to answer your question, yes, I feel like this could be a Super Bowl, another Super Bowl preview. And we can see these same two teams playing in February. Indeed. And Kyle, what about you?

Do you think that these are the two teams that we see are going to have a rematch or a clash come February? two teams that we see are going to have a rematch or a clash come February? And if not, who is in the way of the Eagles? Who's in the way of the Chiefs getting back there, in your opinion? So I think these two teams are on the inside track. And one of the big reasons why is aside of the fact that they're already at the top of their respective conferences as we go into week 11, they're also each in the bottom eight in remaining strength of schedule for win percentage of teams that they have left to play. Now, there's some teams that have some really soft schedules that might make an interesting run as far as winning enough games. And if Kansas City were to, at two losses, drop two games, you know, maybe they don't end up as the number one seed.

And we've seen just how frequently they've had success in the postseason because the playoffs run through Arrowhead, right? So I think that's kind of the determining factor for me. If you told me Kansas City ends up with the one seed again, I'd be very inclined to pick them. And I do think Philadelphia is in kind of a class of their own in the NFC, just because while there have been teams that are similar with record, I don't think Philly's played close to their best football yet. And if they get into a position where they're playing in December and January and they actually put it all together and like the offense and defense click at the same time, they're going to be very, very, very difficult to stop there. They're 50% on third downs offensively already.

And defensively, you know, they just brought in Kevin Bayard. I think they are the team. If you ask me which one was more likely to get back, I would say Philadelphia. Yeah, I would agree. And it's interesting because both of these teams are also coming off a bye and both of these teams are coming off wins before the bye. So I feel like this is where you really kind of see them start to separate themselves. Although you can make the argument just as you guys both have. And I think those are valid arguments that they've already kind of separated themselves. But kind of what do you look for, Jarvis, in the back half of the season from the Chiefs to say,

yeah, I definitely see from how the Chiefs are playing that that team is the one that I'm going to see come February? I think there is two things for me, and it's on the offensive side of the football, right? I think that, though, I got to see one wide receiver, like, really step up and just start being consistent. Because you know you're going to get opportunities with all the attention that's being paid attention to in the middle of the field with Travis Kelsey, right? So I think that some consistency from one of those guys, either one, it doesn't even matter. And then some more commitment to the run game. I know that's kind of hard to ask of Andy Reid, because we know that sometimes he was just like, you know what? I don't need a blanket. I don't need to run the football.

You know, I'm just going to sling this bad boy all over the yard because I got one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game already. You know, and Patrick Mahomes. So I think that, you know, if they can figure out a way to get some consistency in both in the run game and those weapons on the outside. And one of those guys standing, stepping up, saying, OK, I can be I'm not necessarily Tyreek Hill, but I can step in to be a guy that Patrick Mahomes can count on when all that Travis Kelsey is drawing all that coverage. count on when all that is Travis Kelsey's drawing all that coverage. And it may end up being kind of a two for one in Isaiah Pacheco, because that's kind of where he gets, obviously that is his run game, but low key, that's actually where they get a dual threat running backs as someone who can catch successfully out of the backfield. So be interesting to see how much they go to him more and more as the season goes on, because that's exactly how it

happened for them last year. He really started to step up as the season wore on and definitely in the postseason kyle what about you what do you need to see from the eagles in the second half of the season for you to say hey not only do i think the ones coming out of the nfc south nfc rather i expect to see you guys in the super bowl as well and maybe even winning it this time. Yeah, I think Jalen Hurts continuing to play more consistently with all the facets of the quarterback position. You know, he has these switches that he can flips where he gets really, really good and he's in rhythm. But then sometimes he's out of rhythm, but he's good outside of structure and then he can run. rhythm, but then sometimes he's out of rhythm, but he's good outside of structure and then he can run. And it's like, can you just find the groove for a sustained period of time? Because, you know, in Philly, the last two weeks for the Philadelphia Eagles offensively have not been

remotely close to their best efforts where they've had 292 yards against Dallas at home. And, you know, they were up big in that game. Dallas came back and nearly stole the game at the end. When you play these good teams, being able to effectively finish and do so in a multitude of ways, and it's tough because they lost Dallas Goddard for an extended period of time. He has a broken arm, but we should expect to see him back by the postseason. So for Philly, it's don't let

this five game stretch of your schedule trip you up either because they are at Kansas City, Buffalo Bills, San Francisco 49ers, at Dallas Cowboys, at Seattle. They got a really, really tight stretch here. You go three and two or better in that stretch though. I think you're going to put yourself in position to really bring this thing home. But don't sleep on the Lions because they might steal the onesie here because they do have a soft schedule in comparison to the five we just went through. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they tend to be like the Lions we saw at the beginning versus maybe a little bit of the middling where they stumbled a bit.

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My name's Tyler Rowland, host of the Locked on Titans podcast. I don't care who you pray to, whether it's Zeus, Buddha, Allah, the seven old gods, the Lord of the light, eight pounds, six ounce, baby Jesus. That's how I like to picture him. Either way, Titans fans need to look to the sky and pray for some divine intervention on Sunday. Let's just lay out the realities here. The Tennessee Titans are a three and six football team

that look like they may have the worst offensive line in the NFL. To go along with that, they've lost eight straight games on the road. They haven't won a road game all season long. The Titans are struggling mightily right now and they're going up against a Jacksonville team that's six and three leading the division and that swept them last year. So this is a very very tough circumstance. For the Titans to walk into. With a rookie quarterback to go along with. That struggling offensive line. But again. The Titans could use a miracle.

To win this game. And that miracle. Could come in the form. Of winning the turnover battle. And again. The odds are stacked against the Titans here as well. The Titans are one of the worst teams in the turnover battle. And again, the odds are stacked against the Titans here as well. The Titans are one of the worst teams in the NFL this year enforcing turnovers while Jacksonville has been one of the best teams in the NFL in turnover margin. It's really led

them to some key wins while the offense has been struggling, but the offense struggled for Jacksonville because their offensive line is not that great either. They've been struggling as well. And the Titans' biggest strength on the team is their pass rush. So if the Titans' pass rush can dominate the matchup against the Jaguars' offensive line, they can put Trevor Lawrence in third and longs, they can create some bad decisions, and they could create some turnovers, not only helping the Tennessee Titans get the Jaguars' offense off the field, but helping the Titans struggling offense put up points. For more analysis, check out the Locked on Titans podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast

Network, where it's your team every day. I love these tolerable. Can I say that? I mean, baby, Jesus, you know, it is so serious. Like literally Jarvis. I mean, when you spoke baby Jesus, you know, it is so serious. Like literally Jarvis. I felt like Kyle, I should have opened my prayer closet and just started praying for these guys.

Like, dang, you're going down a new hall. And you're going to need Jesus to get out of there with a win. Jarvis. I mean, is it really that like serious? Like, are they really in that much jeopardy? Do they have no chance chance and you know where to get a win um yes um because will levis ever since he looked like brett farve in the first game against the falcons it has just been all down here from there so i think that when you think about you know a rookie quarterback going through rookie struggles it's, it's hard. It's hard to,

to kind of come around on that because like that's all you got and that's who you've gone with. And you decided to say, Hey, we're going to ride this wave. So, and they're going through one of those down waves right now, as far as Tennessee Titan goes. However, there is a little light tea because the Jacksonville Jaguars got their butts kicked last week against the San Francisco 49ers at home. And there are people now questioning whether or not Trevor Lawrence is the guy because, you know, Jacksonville has been bad for quite some time. And people just want to be optimistic about their team down there in Duval.

But it just seems like every now and then these things come to light. These little insufficiencies as far as being a face of the franchise type quarterback, they just came to light last week. So I think that, you know, I think ultimately Jacksonville gets the win because, you know, that was embarrassing last week. But, like, that's not to say that the Jacksonville Jaguars can put out a stinker because they are very more than capable of doing that. Indeed. Now, Kyle, you know, Will Levitz. Yes, he looked all world when he came.

But then again, every quarterback who starts his first game of the season against the Falcons looks like all world. his first game of the season against the Falcons looks like all world. So Will Levis has now come back down to earth, but is there an opportunity here for him to maybe reset himself and maybe help to reset that Titans offense and not just give the Jaguars, the Jaguars a run for their money, but maybe even speak out there. Well, I'll say this. If that was your sales pitch for why you were selling us on Jacksonville covering the spread.

Right. I got a few more things written down for whenever you're talking to whatever football God or other God that you pray to for these Tennessee Titans. They average three trips to the red zone per game and average one for three getting into the red zone per game through nine games this season. 31% of red zone trips get into the end zone. That is 31st in the league. They are about 33% on third down offensively. So you're playing behind the sticks. You're getting into the red zone when the field is compressed and you

can't score touchdowns. You have a terrible offensive line with a run first identity. touchdowns. You have a terrible offensive line with a run first identity. Wow. What an inspiring concoction and formula this is for the Tennessee Titans. And oh, by the way, who is the number one team in the NFL in turnovers defensively? The Jacksonville Jaguars. So if your sales pitch is go against the number one turnover defense in the league and win the turnover battle. Bless you. It ain't going to happen. Now, you know, speaking of a turnover battle that could be won,

that might be the Jets' pathway to beating the Bills after what we saw out of Josh Allen earlier this week. This is a week one rematch for these two teams. It's going down in Buffalo, and Jon Butchko of Locked on Jets is going to sell us why the Jets can cover as seven-point underdogs. I'm John Butchko, the host of Locked On Jets. For the New York Jets to cover the spread this weekend

against the Buffalo Bills, they will need to play their best game. That means generating a lot more offense. The Jets have gone almost three full games without a touchdown. The situation's even more dire than that. You'd have to go back to week four against the Kansas City Chiefs to find the last time the Jets had a multi-play touchdown drive. Every touchdown they've had since then has either been on defense or on a one-play drive where Brees Hall broke a big play.

The Jets need somebody to step up on offense. At this point in time, really the only way they can generate offense is Garrett Wilson with a chain-moving reception or Brees Hall hitting a home run either on a carry or a reception. Somebody like Xavier Gibson, a rookie, undrafted rookie wide receiver, or Izzy Abanaconda, a rookie running back who should take on a bigger role after the team cut Michael Carter, needs to step up. On the other side of the ball, the Jets just need to keep doing what they're doing. They have one of the best defenses in the NFL, and this has always

been a good matchup for them. The last two years, there's been no defense that's given Josh Allen bigger problems. The Jets defense stylistically plays into Allen's weaknesses because they're willing to allow short gains. They're willing to allow the three, four, five yard reception. They dare quarterbacks to try and throw the ball into heavy coverage, and Allen has obliged. He's turned the ball over four times when these teams played week one. And after the Jets keep it close, it comes down to special teams. The Jets have had arguably the best special teams unit in the NFL this season.

Thomas Morstead, the punter, and Greg Zerlein have both been great. And the first time these teams met this season, week one, the Jets won the game in overtime on a punt return touchdown by Xavier Gibson. If the Jets are going to cover again, they're going to have to play well in all three phases. They're going to have to play their best game. Even though the Bills are struggling, they are the more talented team. They're a team that's, as much as they may have issues, they're playing at a higher level than the jets right now. It's going to take a lot for the jets to cover in this game. Guys,

we have some breaking news to share with our audience. We talked about this at the top of the hours. We gave reaction to the Thursday night football game. That's all the Ravens beat the Bengals 34 to 20 Ravenss knew right then that they were going to lose Mark Andrews for the season. Word has now come from multiple sources that the Bengals will indeed lose Joe Burrow now for the season. He is out for the year with a torn ligament. That is per coach Zach Taylor, and that's been confirmed by multiple outlets. He had his MRI this morning. Jake Browning, of course, who we talked about, who finished the game last night, is the backup

who is going to be expected to likely play for the rest of the year. But Kyle, we talked about how tight it was in the AFC North already and how the Bengals were kind of at the bottom of that particular division looking up. Man, what a blow to the Bengals' chances to make any noise to get out of that division or even keep their wildcard hopes alive. Yeah. And you think about Cincinnati, the performance this season defensively felt like it took a step back as well. They had a couple of safeties that left. So if you're looking for like, okay, what's Cincinnati's pathways to win games moving forward? Well, T. Higgins has been banged up.

The offensive line hasn't looked great. You have had the defense regress as you had Von Bell and Jesse Bates leaving for agency this offseason and haven't really had guys that have gained teeth playing in those spots. And now Jake Browning's a quarterback? I mean, just humor me. Here's the games they have left on the schedule. Pittsburgh at Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Minnesota, at Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Cleveland. Are they winning a game?

As a genuine question, they are 65% win percentage is the remaining win percentage of the games that the Bengals have left to play this season. And you have everything else that was going wrong. And now Joe Burrow to Jake Browning is the transition to quarterback. It's no, there may be some silver linings for Cincinnati and getting a high draft selection and being able to make a financial decision with a contract and drafting a wide receiver and a good wide receiver class. And all those storylines are going to open up. But like that, in my mind, is where my mind goes for for Cincinnati, because you forget about playoffs. It ain't gonna happen. Yeah.

Yeah. You talk about being at the bottom of the division already, right? With Joe Burrow, because it's just I think just as far as Joe Burrow's future, right, because he's been dealing with some injuries, right? You know, he had one coming to the season, got off to a slow start. You saw them kind of cater their offense to that, right? You know, as

they try to start figuring things out, then they go on the win streak, and you start saying, okay, all right, the Bengals start looking like the team that can compete. But when you're talking about losing him for the rest of the season and then, like Kyle laid out, like now the conversation changes shifts. Right.

And I think that this is something that you're going to really figure out. Zach Taylor is going to earn his money because true enough, like he can't be this. He can't have this mindset, right? Like, oh, yep. Season over with. But he's going to have to figure out a way because you still got guys. It's just a matter of now Jake Brown is delivering the football.

You know what I would do if I was Zach Taylor? Zach Taylor? I would be having him turn around with his back facing to the defense, handing off to Joe Mixon, and I'm throwing to Joe Mixon. We're going to figure out a way to bleed every bit of talent and juice that we can get out of Joe Mixon

and then figure out a way to get the ball to Jamar Chase at some point. So, yeah, this is – now, Grant, it's definitely – it doesn't look good. They're going to stay at the bottom of this AFC North division. But, man, Zach Taylor got to figure out a way to rally the troops. And he's going to earn his paycheck, that's for sure, for these last few games. I can just follow up on that real quick. Bengals 31st in the league in rushing attempts thus far this season, and they're averaging 3.9 yards per carry.

So it's like the antithesis of everything that they are is what you're going to ask them to be. But I agree with JD that that's probably how you're going to maximize. This is kind of be what the jets are with Garrett Wilson and with Brees Hall is you got like a couple staple skill players to work with. I'd say Cincinnati's offensive line is better. So can you adopt to that style of play? It's just nothing like what you've been to this point in the season. Yeah. And I think you guys make a great point as well. I want to talk a little bit about just actually the QB challenges overall,

because I believe this last Sunday was the first time that there were 10 rookies who started. So it's a little bit disconcerting in what you're seeing happening under center throughout the league. But I also wanted to go back to something Jarvis that you mentioned, which was you got to this five and five, because Joe Burrow was banged up to start the season so that's been a challenge and like you said also Kyle you look at T Higgins and T Higgins has just not been himself and we've yet to see him to come back and be himself but if you look at Joe Burrow from the time he entered the league in 2020 to now 10 games in 2020 16 and 21 and 22 but then he's going to end this season again with just 10 games.

And in those 16 in the two seasons that were sandwiched between the first and the current, let's not forget that he was playing banged up football then. And it does kind of speak to, like you said, where do where do they go in the future? Because a Brown a Browning can't get you to where you want to be. You can't even get out of the division with that at QB. And don't get me wrong. Of course, they're going to hope for Joe Burrow to come back 100% full strength, but it does kind of make you scratch your head that two out of his four seasons, he barely got through half of the season. I think some of that comes back to sacks taken to where he took 32 sacks in the game.

And one of the games that the one that got him to the Super Bowl for a guy. Yeah, I mean, he led the league in sacks taken in 2021. One of the games where he played 16 games and then he had what was it appendicitis? But at the start of training camp in 2022, the good news is you only got one appendix, right? So like that one's done in our way. You won't got to worry about that injury again, but yeah, it's to me. I'm glad you mentioned all of the quarterbacks across the league that had been getting injured too, because you think about kind of stylistically that the changes of defenses across the league,

and we're playing a lot more too high safety shells and trying to force more methodical drives as compared to explosive plays. And what, what moves the needle for everybody in those situations? It's guys at quarterback who can get off script, extend plays, get outside the pocket, whether they run, whether they run to throw or run to run. But those instances expose you to more hits. It exposes you to more precarious situations.

So think about the old guard, Drew Brees, tom brady how'd they play 16 18 20 years whatever comment ended up playing you know they'll throw the check down they don't care they say i'm gonna throw it to the back three yards and he gonna run for five we're gonna get eight yards and it's gonna be second and two and life is good so i i just i can't help but wonder about that trend of coveting outside of structure, athlete quarterbacks, and a lot of the athletic quarterbacks, they don't get hurt when they're running because they are allowed to be ball carriers. It's when you get outside the pocket or you're extending within the pocket

and passing to look for big plays downfield that I'd be very interested to see if there's any trends there as far as why you're seeing some of these quarterbacks get hurt. And we're seeing the number of quarterbacks that are starting really start to inflate. Indeed, indeed. And you think about a quarterback in Matt Ryan, who with the Falcons across his entire career, all of three games missed and not all three were injury. One was a decision, coach's decision. And I think two of those were indeed for injury. And one of those didn't come until his very last season with the Falcons. So yeah, there's some good points of that Kyle, where maybe coaches are going to have to start looking at, yes, the mobile QB is the

QB of the future, but how do we extend the life of that mobile QB? Now, listen, it's almost time for our fantasy football focus. So while we're on that subject, of course, with individual player performances, we're going to dig into it in a second with our girl, Michelle Majuk. But first, Jarvis is going to tell you guys about PrizePix. Jarvis Davis here for PrizePix. This episode of the NFL Kickoff Live Show is brought to you by PrizePix. Folks, PrizePix is the largest daily fantasy sports platform in North America. That's huge. That's really huge.

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has three players you should consider trading away before it's too late. Fantasy trade deadlines are approaching quickly. Here are three players that i think you should trade away prior to the deadline first up being chargers quarterback justin herbert i get it he just had a five touchdown performance you might say but he's elite in fantasy he has some elite games but he also just has far too many duds he he kills you in fantasy far too often i mean just over the last four weeks it's been a roller coaster. Quarterback 20, quarterback seven, quarterback 25, quarterback two, just far too inconsistent. And I am not a fan of his upcoming schedule whatsoever.

I mean, over the next three weeks, you'll face the Packers in Green Bay. Don't love that. Then he has to face the Ravens elite defense. And then after that, he has to go to New England to play against the Patriots. Like I don't like to play any quarterback that has to go into new England. That's never fun. And Herbert's just too inconsistent for me when it comes to us approaching the playoffs. I am trying to get him off my fancy teams prior to those deadlines. Another guy I'm looking to trade right now is Vikings wide receiver, Jordan Addison. He was, he's having a really solid rookie year.

Don't get me wrong. But since Kirk Cousins' season-ending injury, I know Josh Dobbs is doing his thing. But Addison has had fewer than 70 receiving yards and zero touchdowns in each of the last two games. And now we get Justin Jefferson coming back as well, right? So he was the lead guy there. He was getting the targets. But the production wasn't really there with Josh Dobbs. And I don't think Josh is good as Josh Dobbs is. I don't think he has in him to feed Justin Jefferson and TJ Hawkinson and Jordan Addison, like something has

to give here. And I do think we're going to see Addison's production drop even more than it has been the last couple of weeks. So I'm looking to trade them for a talented veteran. That's also been disappointing lately, but you trust that we'll bounce back. Maybe like a Cooper cup or a DK Metcalf. I trust those guys a bit more. So I'm looking to get a trade done like that prior to the deadline. And then last up it's Ravens running back Gus Edwards. We just saw him on Thursday night football score, another two rushing touchdowns. All right. Edwards has scored an insane nine rushing touchdowns over the right. Edwards has scored an insane nine rushing touchdowns over the last five weeks. That kind of insanity touchdown luck cannot last forever. And sooner or later, Lamar Jackson has to start racking up these passing touchdowns,

right? Or even stealing some of these rushing touchdowns himself. We saw Ricky running back Keaton Mitchell get more involved in the two weeks prior. He was really proving himself to get a bigger role. If Edwards does not score a touchdown in any given week, his fantasy production is going to be so underwhelming. 30 of his 47 fantasy points scored over the last three weeks have come on touchdowns. So that's fewer than six fantasy points per game over that time if he didn't score a touchdown. I don't want to be stuck holding on to Edwards once his touchdown luck inevitably fades away because it just has to. So I'm looking to trade him before the deadline as well. All right.

So Kyle, Michelle said she wants to part ways with Justin Herbert and Jordan Addison if he's on your team. He's got to go. Trade him or keep him? I'm inclined to agree with Jordan Addison just because I don't know how high the astronaut buzz is going to go with Joshua Dobbs and him coming in there and balling out. How sustainable is that? What

is that going to look like when Justin Jefferson comes back? I think there is just a little bit too much unknown there to know what the volume is going to look like to really trust Jordan Addison. So if you get a sell high opportunity, I would take that one for sure. From a quarterback perspective, I think if the Chargers are going to get this done, they're going to have to lean into Justin Herbert, and he's going to have to have big games. So they're in the thick of the playoff race, but I think if I cross-referenced where they're at as a football team with what the defense looks like, so what you're going to have to do offensively to win games, to be able to get into the playoff conversation, actually get a playoff berth, I think it sets up well for Herbert to have to do it.

So you'd have to really give me the moon for me to want to trade Herbert yeah and I think it would be doable because we saw what the Packers I guess I'm going to say didn't do to the Steelers and that's why the Steelers won that game how about you Jarvis do you trade them or do you keep Herbert and or Addison um to be honest with you I I'm in favor of um Justin Herbert because, like you said, with the shakiness of the defense, you know, and them saying, hey, here's the ball, you know, with Kevin Moore being the offensive coordinator out there with the Chargers. Yeah, he's definitely inclined to throw the rock. So I think that they're going to be put in situations where he's

going to have to throw the ball. And I think that, you know, I know a lot of people are kind of turned off by Justin Herbert and starting to question his know i know a lot of people are kind of turning turned off about by justin herbert and starting to question his acumen as a quarterback a face of the franchise but he can sling it he's still slinging so i think just from a family fantasy perspective yeah i think that that kind of works so i would i would i was i would stick around with justin herbert unless i just get a a crazy ridiculous deal that you you know, that I have to accept. But, but yeah, as far as Jordan Addison goes, I think like, you don't know what, you know, Justin Jefferson with him coming, potentially coming back and everything like that. And I think that, you know, Dobbs has a really nice connection with, with TJ Hawkinson. He's been playing really

well as of late. So yeah, I would, I probably would trade Jordan Addison to see what I can get back in return. And guys, we've got a couple minutes left. I want to hit two subjects and I want to end on a positive note. So I'm going to hit you guys with one of them and then I'm going to share the other one. But first things first, of course, we broke the news when we found out about it, that Joe Burrow is done for the season. So it kind of shifted in that direction, but want to go back to the Jets bills because this is their second and final matchup of the season.

It's in Buffalo. Guys, give me your thoughts real quick on where that game lands as far as who wins I think Buffalo gets it done at home uh you know Jets just the the for as depressing as Tyler sell me why it was for the Titans I'm listening to John go through the Jets litany of haven't had a multi-play touchdown drive since the Chiefs game in week five. It's like, holy cow. And we call the football gods and these guys, too, and get a little fortune coming their way. So I think Buffalo, they sent a message, I think, to that football team with the firing of the offensive coordinator,

whether he was the most probable of the issues going on with that team or not. Big time wake-up call when somebody loses their job, though. And I think the Bills are too talented to keep doing what they've been doing. And I think they get that one done against jets yeah i'm i got bills getting getting it done because like you said even though josh allen is like he's leading leading the charge would turn the ball over i just think zach wilson he doesn't do anything for me and i don't see the Jets defense scoring three touchdowns. So, yeah, that's where I'm at with it. Yeah, Bill's winning.

Right. That may be where it begins and ends, right? One more good note that I want to wrap up with, guys, since we've had so much bad news, especially on the QB front this weekend, just got word that Justin Fields and Khalil Herbert are both activated. Of course, Khalil Herbert, the running back for the Bears, but Justin Fields activated. So, hopefully, it looks like he will be in the game come Sunday. Bears with a critical game at the Lions and critical for the Lions as well so that they can keep winning and keep on track with the Eagles. Good stuff for us to end

the show on. Yeah, and I'm hopeful for Justin Fields. I don't know that this regime in Chicago is going to survive past this year, but this is a really good opportunity for Justin where he kind of came on after the first month of the season, put some good tape out there because if Chicago does hit reset, odds are with them having Carolina's first round pick in addition to their own, they're gonna be picking a quarterback. So I, if I'm Justin Fields, the biggest motivation that I have is to show the league who I am as a player, because there's a pretty good chance if Chicago fires Matt Eberflus that Justin's going to be playing somewhere else next year. And you want to have teams that have assets and have a good infrastructure and can help you to be interested

in you. Yeah. And Jarvis wanting to see him do it while he remains healthy. Yeah. I just want to see Justin Fields get a real chance because it's obvious that this regime is not sold on him. So I think putting that good tape out there, I think that is you speaking. You preach to the choir, Kyle. So, yeah, put that good tape out there and prove you can be a starter quarterback in the NFL. Indeed. Indeed. Well, we've got a couple of good matchups intriguing one Sunday, but we know the one that everybody's looking for is Chiefs Eagles on Monday. We appreciate you guys, as always, stopping by NFL Kickoff Live and everywhere on the Locked On Sports Network in and around the country. And since we won't see you guys next, we want to wish you guys a happy and safe Thanksgiving. Until next time.