Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Can Will Levis Survive Tennessee Titans OL, Taking On Jaguars Defense & Titans Trap Game Potential

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

The Tennessee Titans will travel on the road again to play the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 11 and the real question is can Will Levis survive the season behind this offensive line? The Titans are rot...ating two unproven tackles to see if one of them can save Levis. Next, the Jaguars have an improved defense, but a struggling offensive line. The Titans might be able to take advantage. Finally, Tyler and Tony give their predictions and talk about how Jacksonville will likely pull out a close one in the end.Follow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitans/videosSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!DoorDashGet 50% off up to $10 value when you spend $15 or more on your FIRST order, when you download the DoorDash app and enter code LOCKED23. Subject to change. Terms apply.Jase MedicalGet $20 off these lifesaving antibiotics with Jase Medical by using code LOCKEDON at checkout on jasemedical.com.PrizePicksGo to PrizePicks.com/lockedonnfl and use code lockedonnfl for a first deposit match up to $100!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed.LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can Will Levis survive the rest of the season behind this offensive line? I'm going to talk about that and more on today's edition of the Locked On Titans podcast. Let's get it! You are Locked On Titans, your daily Tennessee Titans podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. It's Crossover Thursday. It is presented by PrizePix, the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Go to prizepix.com slash locked on NFL. Use the code locked on NFL, all lowercase, for a first deposit match up to $100. With all due respect, like Mark Jackson would say, to all of the other locked on hosts, I'm very excited for today's crossover. For the OG, my favorite guy on the whole network, Tony Wiggins, we're going to be breaking down this Jacksonville Jaguars-Tennessee Titans
Starting point is 00:01:10 matchup with two fan bases that do not get along. But luckily, me and Tony get along when we need to. So we're going to dive into this one. We're going to start with some big storylines here. We're going to get into some matchups. We'll get into our predictions at the end of the show. Thanks for making Locked on Titans and Locked on Jaguars your first listen each
Starting point is 00:01:28 and every day, Monday through Friday. Your team every day here on the Locked on Podcast Network. Tony, again, very excited to have you on. And I'm just going to start here before we really get into the storylines and stuff. Before the season, our little Locked on previews. Me and you like to go back and forth. We both like to have fun.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I just got to say, man, I was wrong again. I bought into the hope. I bought into the DeAndre Hopkins hype. I thought the Titans would give up a better effort than they have this year. I think you were the one who thought the Titans would
Starting point is 00:01:59 finish last in the division. Was your prediction. I got to say, I i just gotta give credit to you once again you you had it you had it figured out from the start it's not over yet and i'm gonna say that and i'm gonna say that because this time last year we were going back and forth and i had to hit you with you damn right the jaguars gonna win the division and then they ended up being two and seven and you were all over me you were making fun of me and i was like all right and they know and then they ended up doing it so i'm not gonna uh let history repeat itself i'm not
Starting point is 00:02:29 gonna sit here and start peacocking and then all of this stuff falls apart and then all of a sudden will levis gets hot like trevor lawrence did right and i just laughed because it ain't gonna happen but still i still uh i still want to um at least kind of remain humble a little bit. The Jacks got humbled last week a lot, so there's a lot of humble pie right now going around in this city. Well, just go ahead and go off with that. What is the storyline right now? I know they won like five games in a row, playing very well,
Starting point is 00:02:58 but then a loss like that at home against a good team kind of does bring you down to earth. What's kind of the vibe in Jacksonville right now? Well, the vibe is, let me make one small correction. They did win five in a row, but they were not playing well offensively. And the offensive line was in a little bit of a shambles. And it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good when you have championship expectations. So one of the things that did happen was they ran into a team that was way better
Starting point is 00:03:24 than losing three straight that showed the jaguars that they're not as good as winning five straight and they had the perfect blend of upper echelon talent combined with style of play that absolutely caused the jaguars a bunch of problems they punched them in the face not only did they punch him in the face, I think if you put all the players in a bag and snatched the top 10 players out of the bag, eight of them probably come from San Francisco. And everything that could go wrong went wrong,
Starting point is 00:03:57 but it's the third time this year that's happened. It happened against KC, even though the score wasn't bad. It happened against Houston early on when they lost 37-17 or something like that. And it happened the other day. The game was probably more of a 24-13 game, but it would have still left me with the same bad taste in my mouth because they lost to the Chiefs 17-9,
Starting point is 00:04:17 and it didn't seem like it was that close. It kind of got away from them because of a couple of weird, bad bounces of the ball. But that's what happens to you when you go all year, don't play well, win five games in a row, start smelling yourself a little bit, and then reality punches you right in the mouth, and that's exactly what happens. So that's why everybody's – folks were like, oh, here we go again.
Starting point is 00:04:37 We're still here. They realized that those games that they lost early were not – the Chiefs game was the second game of the year. Okay, second game of the year, new rookie left tackle. to block uh chris jones they didn't chip i get it right houston was ah we took them lightly and this one was now you could always say well we won five straight and they won three i'm no longer looking at them individually i'm looking at them collectively they lost all three games the same way so now you have a kryptonite that's identifiable, and that's a little bit of a problem because I don't believe a team
Starting point is 00:05:09 with that problem that they've shown three straight that they can't fix because, like, I saw you say this on social the other night. Ain't no offensive lineman that's going to help you just walking around here in the streets. It's not like you can go to a farm and where are the trees with all the linemen on it and go over there and grab you two of them. It just doesn't happen. You don't see them in free agent. You got to draft and develop those cats.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I'm with you. They don't have the championship pedigree. They're okay. They're all right. I hate being okay and all right at that position. Teams that win it can bust you in the face when things aren't going well. They just say, run the ball right right and i think we bring up or one thing that should be brought up as you look at the conversation about all the different wide receivers and this and that the reason that
Starting point is 00:05:54 patrick holmes is still able to win even though they let tyreek hill go is because out of all those good teams in the afc the bangles the bills all that who has the best offensive line chiefs it's still the chiefs and then you look at the eagles in the all that. Who has the best offensive line? Chiefs. It's still the Chiefs. And then you look at the Eagles in the NFC. Who has the best offensive line in the NFC? Eagles. Eagles. And second best? 49ers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 49ers. You know what I mean? And even you look at Houston, they have really good tackles, and they've been playing pretty well up front, even with some backup guys. So I understand a through line, and Titans fans will know that very well because the big storyline for the Titans is, is Will Levis going to survive this season? Because he is, Tony, here's a
Starting point is 00:06:26 number for you and shout out to TitanStats on Twitter. Will Levis has been hit the 13th most in the NFL this season. He's played three games. He's been pressured on 40% of his dropbacks. I mean, the Titans offensive
Starting point is 00:06:41 line, like the Jaguars offensive line is not good enough for their expectations, but the Titans offensive line, like the Jaguars offensive line is not good enough for their expectations. But the Titans offensive line is certainly far worse in a vacuum, just ranking it person by person. You know what I mean? And the concern is, will Will Levis stay healthy? He said he's still confident. Mike Vrabel said they don't want to challenge that. But the reality is right now we're having a conversation of who's going to play left tackle,
Starting point is 00:07:02 Dylan Radins or maybe Jalen Duncan, a sixth-round rookie rookie because the two guys ahead of them are hurt they didn't play that well either and Nicholas Petit Ferrer and Andre Dillard and then Radins did not play well enough last week Mike Vrabel said it himself didn't play up to the standard they're thinking about mixing in Duncan and Duncan's a project pick with with a lot of athleticism and raw talent but he shouldn't be playing in year one let alone back being a blindside protector for your prized rookie quarterback. So the question really is, can Will Levis survive? Now, one thing I will say, Jacksonville hasn't been a big sack team. They've been getting pressure, but they haven't put up a bunch of sacks in comparison
Starting point is 00:07:40 with other teams. So maybe this week is an opportunity where the Titans could try to play a little bit better up front than they have in the last few weeks against Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh. And maybe it'll be more like an Atlanta challenge than like a Pittsburgh challenge for the Titans with the Jags up front. And that might make it a trap game.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Tony thinks I'm crazy, and I get it. And we're going to talk about some matchups in this game that may determine it and see if the Titans even got a shot here to make this upset happen. But before we get into all of that. What is happening? And I got to tell you about today's sponsor, which is DoorDash, man. That's right. DoorDash is the absolute truth
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Starting point is 00:09:59 Both of us having some good success in the past five years here and there. Titans a little bit. Now it's moving to the Jags. So there's a lot riding on this. And both of us, both of these fan bases kind of feel like the other one is the ugly one. You know what I mean? Like, no, I'm not the ugly one. They're the ugly one. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:10:12 That's how they act. That's how they act. We know y'all are more ugly than us. That ain't even a problem. Here we go. No, seriously, this goes back to when this franchise first started. The Jaguars lost three games in one year. They went 15-3, and the only three games they lost were to the Tennessee Titans
Starting point is 00:10:30 and the late, great Steve McNair and Eddie George. The Jaguars still feel to this day if they had gone to the Super Bowl, they would have beat the Rams silly. And they probably would because they had a really good team that year. Right. Right. So, you know, the Titans have been like I call them the ingrown toenail. You remember that? You remember I said that a few years ago? year. Right. Right. And so, you know, the Titans have been like, I call them the ingrown toenail.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And you remember that? You remember I said that? Yeah. Haven't been so much as of late, but there's a whole new Jaguar team. And I think the Jaguars are, they're all right for the future. It's just that we just had to temper a little bit,
Starting point is 00:10:59 our expectations for what we, what we are, who we are right now. And that's a great segue, Tony, into what I really wanted to talk about, and that's the new and improved Jaguars defense. Because I did mention maybe the sack numbers aren't there.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think they got 19 on the year, kind of in the middle of the road in the NFL. But their run defense has been very much improved. And you talk about the offensive struggles that they've had. Well, they're, what, six and three with all these offensive struggles that everyone in Jacksonville is worried about? Well, that can only happen with a defense that not only is playing well but getting turnovers. So what has been the difference this year from last year
Starting point is 00:11:35 with the Jags defense these first, you know, ten weeks? I'll go front to back. Josh Allen is on a fifth-year option, and he's playing lights out. Some Titans fans want him in free agency. Come on over. He had a couple of games where he went. He had three sacks in his game. I want to say he has somewhere like eight or nine right now.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, he's been very good individually in the second. Well, what he's been is great in three or four games, but he also has gotten pressure in the rest of the game. Trayvon Walker, to me, is real, real good, man. And if you watch, I know you're a tape watcher. If you watch the 49ers tape, Brock Purdy needs to pray that he got the ball. Because there were a couple of times when Trayvon got close, he drew a couple of holding penalties too.
Starting point is 00:12:20 So as of late, he has been a terror. He's already a terror in the run game. He does a lot of things that doesn't show up in the stats, and it's what they ask him to do. And I often, when folks sit here and go, well, him over Hutchinson, him over – they create things for Hutchinson to get sacked. They tell Trayvon to just do what he does. And other coaches rave about the fact that he's a game-playing wrecker.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So there's still a debate whether or not that's what you choose at number one, but I tell people all the time, number one isn't monolithic. There wasn't a franchise quarterback in that draft. So, yeah, you want to take Sauce Gardner? Sure, okay, fine. But hindsight is 20-20. He's a real, real good football player that every defensive coach would love to have.
Starting point is 00:13:01 The middle, Devin Lloyd has really, really improved his play. Didn't have the greatest week last week. Yeah, I know he, really improved his play. Didn't have the greatest week last week. Yeah, I know he struggled at times last year. Didn't have the greatest week last week against George Kittle, but he's been better. And then in the secondary, they've been real good. Been a little bit unhealthy as of late, but they're kind of getting people back.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Andre Sisco's played well. Darius Williams has been really, really good. And Tyson Campbell's a very good player. And Andre Sisco, like I said, Andre Sisco has been the truth. And Rayshon Jenkins, real good player. You know, he caused a fumble last year. So they've been good. And up to last week, they were really turning the ball over a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:35 They were creating a lot of turnovers and giving the Jaguars good field position. So they bought in. They get it. They understand. They play team defense. They stay within the scheme. And they don't chase sacks and interceptions. And they let things come to them and they're a very good team kind of reminds me of the old titans over the last few years just how they always just played tough and
Starting point is 00:13:52 kept everything in front of them and then had opportunistic times and they turned the ball over right it's not always beautiful it's not lockdown 85 bears defense but they just seem to make a play when it matters most and situational football is is the most important aspect of the game. I mean, that's something that Mike Vrabel talks about all the time. People will know, play there. And the defense that you're talking about, that's why I'm looking on the Titans offensive side. Can DeAndre Hopkins get going? Because when the Titans play well, it's usually a lot of DeAndre Hopkins. And with the players in the secondary playing a lot better, it's not like, you know, the individual names stand out to people. Although I think Andre Sisco should be a name that stands out to people going forward.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The collective group is really solid. And I think whether DeAndre Hopkins can get open against those guys, whether they press Hopkins has played a lot better on off coverage than he has press coverage. I think that's one of the signs of kind of his decline as he gets older is he doesn't deal as well with press because he doesn't have the strength that he did in his athletic prime. So how the Jags kind of deal with Hopkins, I think that's going to be important, the Hopkins versus the defensive back
Starting point is 00:14:56 matchup. But on the other side of the ball, you talk about the offensive line has kind of been the one thing that you've pointed out. For me, that's obviously where the Titans have to win. You know, like I know the last few years, the Titans defensive line has been what the team has really built on with Derrick Henry on the other side. It's all about getting pressure.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And when the Titans get consistent pressure, the defense plays well, like the first half of the game last week against Tampa Bay. But when the pressure kind of falls off, that's when the Titans defense looks terrible and the secondary is the worst and people are freaking out. So for me, it's about that Jags offensive line because that's the one weakness on the offense.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The skill position. I saw somebody on social the other day say that Trevor Lawrence's supporting cast isn't good. And I'm like, Evan Ingram, Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk, Travis Etienne, send them to Tennessee then. You know what I mean? That's a good supporting cast, but I agree the offensive line may be the area where it's not good.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So if Jeffrey Simmons, Arden Key, potential revenge game, Autry has kind of been inconsistent as he gets closer to 34. If the Titans' pass rush can dominate the game, I think they give the Titans a chance to force a turnover, help their offense, and kind of stay in it. So what are you – I guess what's your view on the Jags' offensive line right now and how they match up with Simmons and crew? Simmons is a problem for everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I don't care who you are. You can have Zach Martin and he would be a problem. But even with Zach Martin, Martin would win sometimes. You're not going to beat a guy like a pinata all day, right? So the interior of the Jags line is where they've struggled the most. I'm not so much worried. Last week
Starting point is 00:16:34 you're dealing with Bosa and Chase Young and that's a problem for a whole bunch of people, right? This week, I'm not so much concerned about the line getting whipped so bad that it affects the game. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Because I think some of the things that they do, getting the ball out quick and all of that, I think that negates it. It's just that the 49ers telegraphed their game plan. And see, this is when you know you have a problem. They told you what they were going to do. Right. We're going to press. We're going to take those quick little passes away.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Because the Jaguars really like to go horizontal, horizontal. Like the Super Bowl Giants. They just lined up and said, we're doing this. We'll beat you. Going sideways. Yep, going sideways. We're throwing it out, throwing it out, throwing it out, getting the ball out quick.
Starting point is 00:17:15 What are you going to do? They have a bunch of basically slot receivers. Right. Christian Kirk, they don't have a true X. So they're getting the ball to the guys in space, throwing it to Travis Etienne and making you tackle. They're not allowing their offensive line to cost them the game. Well, last week the 49ers said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:17:31 We're taking all of that stuff away. We're going to make him work to his second read. We're going to take that away. We're going to make him work to his third read. But here's the problem. He ain't going to have time to get to it. And that's exactly what happened. So you got to be able to philosophically do that.
Starting point is 00:17:44 One way to make sure that they don't get there is to try to keep them off the field. Yeah, well, that would require running the ball for the Titans, which I think is something that they've really struggled with. They went this offseason and got more guys who are more pass blocking oriented to try to help. And in the process, because they didn't do enough, they got a line that can't pass block or run block. So that's been exciting.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But we're going to talk about, you know, what might make the difference in this game, whether it be turnovers, run blocking, any of that. Also, give our predictions on how this game is going to finish up. Before we dive into all of that, though, I do want to let you guys know that today's episode is brought to you by Jace Medical. We spend a lot of time talking together, you and I. We get fired up together about the wins and the losses, who's going to start, who sits.
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Starting point is 00:20:23 Now I want to kind of dive into our predictions in this game, what we think is going to happen before we get into it. Thank you guys again for making Locked on Titans and Locked on Jaguars your first listen each and every day. Do want to also tell you guys about Locked on launching a brand new 24 7 streaming channel on
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Starting point is 00:21:17 Right. Two company men here. But in this game, I've joked throughout the episode, I think it's a trap game. And I think it is a trap game, but it doesn't mean that the Titans are going to win. I think this game is going to be closer. When I woke up on Monday morning, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm predicting 31-6, blah, blah, blah, you know? Like, but with it being a division game, I think not even just the AFC South, division games in general around the NFL, you know your opponents so well that they tend to be close games. Being a division game, I think not even just the AFC South, division games in general around the NFL, you know your opponents so well that they tend to be close games. They just tend to know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:53 Especially with the Titans and the Jags who have had the same coaches the last few years, unlike Houston and Colts who just got new coaches. So I think with some of the familiarity, the Titans will be able to play better than they normally do. I think with some of the matchup things, the Jags having a mismatch on the offensive line with the Titans' defensive line, and then the Jags' pass rush maybe not being quite to the level of some of the pass rushes the Titans have seen recently.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I think that the big strengths for the Jaguars don't necessarily match up with the Titans' biggest weaknesses, which will allow the Titans to keep it close. But at the end of the day, the Jags are at home. The Titans have lost eight straight road games. I don't think that the Titans will be able to make the big play at the end of the game when it matters most. I think Jacksonville will make the big play at the end, just like we saw at the end of the game last year. Controversy wasn't a fumble, this and that. I don't know. But I just think whether it be the
Starting point is 00:22:45 refs siding with the home team, whether it be legitimate that the Titans make a mistake and the Jags make a play, either way, I think the Jaguars make the big play at the end. I'm going to go 23-13. I think this is like 16-13 in the third quarter or 16-10 in the third quarter and Jacksonville gets a turnover, turns it into a touchdown that kind of ices it. It's 23-10 in the third quarter. And Jacksonville gets a turnover, turns it into a touchdown that kind of ices it. It's 23-10, 23-13 with six minutes left. And the Titans just can't get anything going to get it closer. So I got 23-13 Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:23:15 But I think the Titans make the Jags sweat a little bit in this one. Yeah, I think it's 19-14 in the fourth quarter. The Jaguars probably have four Brandon McManus field goals. And then they make a big play in Trevor Lawrence, maybe hits Christian Kirk or Calvin Ridley for a clinching touchdown. And I think they pull it away 26 to 14. I do believe, though, that DeHop does have a pretty good day. And I think I think Will Levis will have the type of day that will keep you intrigued of whether or not he's going to keep up with Trevor Lawrence and C.J. Stroud in the division
Starting point is 00:23:48 and give Titans fans something to look forward to. But here's where I chalk it up to being a close game. They still have Derrick Henry, right, even though they still got a block for him. They still have Jeffrey Simmons. They still have Mike Vrabel. And to me that means a lot because the one thing about Vrabel teams is it's almost like playing a Dan Campbell team. And I know I'm not comparing him to Dan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm comparing Dan Campbell to him. He's a former player who is one of those former players that if you had to pick one or two coaches that's going to fight in a bar with you. Well, I just mentioned both of them, right? So I think his team is going to fight. I think they're going to come out and they're going to scrape, they're going to scratch, they're going to fight. And I think they're playing a team that they believe may be licking their wounds a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Zay Jones got arrested for misdemeanor domestic violence. Then some person that owns a smoke shop put out a video of Calvin Ridley buying backwoods. And we all know what backwoods are used for. Shout out to backwoods. Somebody might be smoking straight out of the pack. Most of the people I know, they're unwinding them, breaking them up, dropping everything out, and they're putting something else in it.
Starting point is 00:24:54 That's the big insinuation. Then Doug Peterson, before all of that happened, came out and said, what are you doing away from here? Are you studying? Apparently, they're fighting women and they're smoking the good stuff. So the thing is, is there's a little bit of soul searching that has to happen with this
Starting point is 00:25:09 team because even though they're six and three, they kind of got slapped real bad and everybody saw it. You know what I'm saying? It's like he hit you. What you going to do about it? So you can either be too eager to fight back like a guy running track. You want to win so bad you pull
Starting point is 00:25:25 your hamstring because you lose form or you get it together but it just takes a while because you're playing a gritty group of NFL players that don't want you to get better so I think the Jags have a nip and tuck game the whole way I don't think they're ever in danger of losing the game and then I think they pull away at the very end yeah I don't I don't think that's insane and honestly to to be real with you Tony and some people don't agree with this, who listen to the show and like the team or whatever, that might be the best thing that can happen for the Titans going forward is moral victories. To keep that draft pick as high as it possibly can to give you a chance at one of these tackles, to give you a chance
Starting point is 00:26:00 at Marvin Harrison Jr., but at the same time still have hope in Will Levis and continue to see growth there. That ultimately might be what it like. If you look at the Jags, you know, Trevor Lawrence had a terrible first year and Urban Meyer was pretty much all at fault for that. But, you know, they were able to get some good talent in that draft with the picks that they had. And then the next year, boom, all of a sudden they're winning the division. Trevor Lawrence is a guy. The next year they're six and three. They're winning the division. Trevor Lawrence is a guy the next year, they're six and three. They're dominating the division so far or not dominating, but they look like they're, you know, the leader in the, of the pack. And some teams are having Superbowl
Starting point is 00:26:33 expectations of the Jags. So I think things change very quickly in the NFL. If you hit on that quarterback and you can get some good talent on the team. So I think at the end of the day, what may be best for the Titans is for Will Levis to look good, have some good talent on the team. So I think at the end of the day, what may be best for the Titans is for Will Levis to look good, have some good moments, have some moral victories, but to keep the actual victories low so the Titans can add quality, high-end talent that they are desperately, desperately missing on the roster. That may be the best thing that could happen here.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Boy, you sound like somebody I know very well. I told you before the show, I've told you several times who it reminds me of too. I don't know how you- I just did an interview with him this week. I know, that's my boy. I don't know, you're talking about Ryan Green, my former radio partner. I don't know how you... I don't believe in moral victory.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Me personally. I get it. I get it. I just think winning kind of teaches you... You're preaching to the choir, some of my listeners. Winning kind of teaches you how to win. Didn't help Brianrian day bowl because he won last year with an unsustainable way now they're looking just like people thought they were gonna look right but it's because i think they made too many mistakes at quarterback but we're gonna talk about our team not patricia training is giant yeah shout out patricia yeah
Starting point is 00:27:38 shout out patricia go where would you guys if the draft was tomorrow where would you pick right now uh i believe right now the Titans would be eighth. Okay. So that's too low for the two quarterbacks, which you probably are happy about because you kind of want to stick with Will if he continues to show, even though I probably wouldn't. That's just me. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:57 That's fair. Yeah. I just take, I'll be like, sure thing. I just want one of the tackles or Marvin Harrison Jr. One of those three players. And I think being in the top five is the only. I'm going to tell you about tonight. I don't want y' of those three players. Well, you ain't getting Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm going to tell you about tonight. I don't want you all to end up with him, but if you need a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So, Traylon Burks, you all done with him? To be honest with you, Tony, that's been a big conversation. I said it on Wednesday. At some point, you have to plan as if he's not going to be around because he's just shown two seasons he can't stay on the field. When he's on the field, he's not that productive. If I'm the Titans and I have a hundred million dollars in cap space, like just for argument's sake, if the Titans get the third pick and a hundred million dollars in cap space, I'm signing one of T Higgins or Brandon Iuke and I'm drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. And I'm
Starting point is 00:28:38 having Iuke or Higgins with Hopkins in the slot. And then Marvin Harrison Jr. on the other side and saying, we're going the Bengals route. We'll worry about the O-line later. This is elite. Like, I don't think you can pass on a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr. And if you can do that, who cares about Traylon Burks? Who cares? It was a mistake to trade A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Cut your losses. I think if they could trade him for a third or a fourth-round pick, they should do it immediately. And one team called this trade deadline about it. Let me give you a name. I'm going to help you out. You ain't getting Marvin Harrison Jr. if he ain't the top two. I'm going to give you a name. Keon Coleman
Starting point is 00:29:12 from Florida State. Listen to me, man. I don't even want him to go over there because I'm a Florida State fan. But if it's not Marvin Harrison Jr., I want the Titans to take one of the offensive tackles. You know what I mean? If none of those three players are available, then fine. But I'm taking Olt or F for Sean over any other wide receiver, except Marvin Harrison Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:28 This is the biggest conversation in Titans Twitter right now, but it's funny to bring it up. Well, it all plays itself out, man. I haven't gotten myself to the point where I can think much about next year because there's still enough blue sky with this year. It's just so funny when you have these expectations of winning a championship. You guys probably know what it was. Maybe not last year, but the years before that, we all were right there with the bingos
Starting point is 00:29:50 and right there with the team. We had A.J. Brown. That's right. You're sitting there thinking, like, do we have enough? And at some point, you kind of get the idea, the only way you have enough to win it all is if things have to be perfect. And I think that's where the Jaguars are. It's just the one thing you can't get by is not being able to block people on the offensive line. And I know a lot where the Jaguars are. It's just the one thing you can't get by is not being able to block people
Starting point is 00:30:06 on the offensive line. And I know a lot of people have been giving me grief, and I know we've got to go here. A lot of people have been telling me, well, the Bengals and the Rams went to the Super Bowl and they had bad offensive line. Yeah, they also had a whole bunch of Hall of Famers running around everywhere. And they played against each other. I'm sure if one of them had a good offensive line,
Starting point is 00:30:22 they would have been the ones who won the game, right? Yep. So the thing is, is to win the ultimate thing, you have to do things. each other. I'm sure if one of them had a good offensive line, they would have been the ones who won the game. The thing is to win the ultimate thing, you have to do things. The game comes down to blocking and tackling. Something that y'all have done very well over the years and something that the Jaguars need to actually do better.
Starting point is 00:30:35 We'll see how it goes on Sunday. It'll be interesting to watch. That'll do it for a crossover Thursday, week 11. I'm Tyler Rowland, host of Locked on Titans. That's Tony Wiggins, host of Locked on Jaguars. Make sure to make Wiggins host of Locked on Jaguars make sure to make Locked on Titans and Locked on Jaguars your first listen

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