Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - DeAndre Hopkins to the Tennessee Titans Rumors, GM Hire Before OC & Taylor Lewan's Future
Episode Date: January 11, 2023The Tennessee Titans have some major changes to make this offseason and would be wise to upgrade at wide receiver! Word is DeAndre Hopkins will be traded from the Arizona Cardinals, should the Titans ...pursue him?? Next, the Titans have a few positions open in the front office and coaching staff. It would be wise to hire the GM first, before hiring the offensive coordinator. Finally, Taylor Lewan has been an interesting name this offseason as people wonder about his future. Tyler goes on a rant about Lewan's status and talks about some interesting comments Lewan made on his show recently.Follow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitans/videosSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFLBuilt BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!PrizePicksFirst time users can receive a 100% instant deposit match up to $100 with promo code LOCKEDON. That’s PrizePicks.com – promo code; LOCKEDONUltimate Football GMTo download the game just visit Ultimate-GM.com or look it up on the app stores. Our listeners get a 100% free boost to their franchise when using the promo LOCKEDON (ALL CAPS) in the game store.TurboTaxCome to TurboTax and don’t do your taxes. Visit TurboTax.com to learn more.Tommy JohnWinter mornings are brutal. So here’s my tip for tackling the day in comfort: Grab new Tommy John Loungewear and take cozy wherever you go. Get TWENTY PERCENT OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER at TommyJohn.com/LOCKEDON. BetterHelpThis episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at Betterhelp.com/LockedOn and get on your way to being your best self. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Locked on Titans podcast.
I am your host, Tyler Rowland.
Titans fans, DeAndre Hopkins will be on the trade market this offseason.
Should the Titans make a deal?
I say no.
I'll tell you why.
Then I'll also tell you why it's important the Titans hire their general manager before
they decide on an offensive coordinator.
Also, Taylor LeJuan made some interesting comments recently about a former coach on
the Titans staff.
We'll dive into those and his future with the team, all of that and more on today's
edition of the Locked on Titans podcast.
Let's get it.
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So number one, guys, diving in,
DeAndre Hopkins will be on the trade market
this offseason.
The Cardinals have already put that out into the universe
and they have even said that they're going to tell
the next general manager for the Arizona Cardinals
that they need to work on trading DeAndre Hopkins.
And look, guys, there is an element of Madden
to the fan experience.
When a big name is available or a big name is out there,
there is a segment of fans that no matter who that name is,
if they know the name, they're going to want the name.
But I am here to tell you, no.
Do not trade for DeAndre Hopkins.
Now, I am not going to close the door entirely on a trade
and say absolutely under no circumstance.
I will tell you what circumstance I would make a DeAndre Hopkins trade,
but it's very unlikely. Let's start
with the reality here. Guys, the Titans can't make this mistake again. DeAndre Hopkins is a better
player right now than Julio Jones was when the Titans traded for him. Number one, do not misconstrue
what I'm saying. DeAndre Hopkins is still a better player right now than Julio Jones was when the trade got made.
But guys, wake up here.
A wide receiver who's starting to deal with a ton of injuries,
who costs a ton of money,
who was just popped for PEDs because he's getting older and trying to stay healthy.
It's the Julio Jones trade all over again,
but more punitive.
So even though I think Hopkins is a better player right now
than Julio was when the Titans traded for him,
it's the same exact philosophy.
Over 30 wide receiver,
dealing with a bunch of injuries in recent years,
PD suspension because he's trying to prolong his career
and get healthier.
Look, it just doesn't make any sense.
From that perspective, Ware Hopkins is in his career.
Yeah, it's a flashy name.
Sounds good.
But it's the same mistake that the Titans have made over and over again.
Getting guys who are past their prime but are still super expensive.
This team is in the middle of a youth movement.
Okay?
The Titans need to get younger. They need to get faster. They need to get cheaper. They have too many expensive old veterans that don't
add speed. This is not the move to make. We talk about the contract. Hopkins would cost $19 million
next year, $14 million after that. And look, it was already reported when the trade
rumor came out that DeAndre Hopkins wants a contract extension. So not only are you going
to be paying a ton of money and paying picks to get this guy, but you're going to have to give
him an extension that means that you'll owe him money three years from now when he's 34?
Guys, this would not be the move I get.
It's a shiny toy.
It's a shiny name.
Ooh, I know DeAndre Hopkins.
I want him.
But come on, guys.
The Titans just gave up a draft pick to get Robert Woods,
who may be good on a different team,
but he's an older wide receiver who doesn't have speed.
Guys, the NFL is getting younger every single year.
This is not the position the Titans are in.
The Titans are not a DeAndre Hopkins away from being a Super Bowl contender.
They're simply not.
So this would be a mistake, in my opinion.
Not only do you have to pay Hopkins, pay an extension to him for more years,
but also,
you would have to give up draft picks.
Is this team in a position
to give up draft picks for this?
No!
They are absolutely not.
Again, the team needs to get younger.
The team needs to get faster.
The team needs to get cheaper. That is done through the
draft. This team needs a good draft, not to trade for an over 30 expensive wide receiver again.
Okay. We can't do that again. And I know that it's going to be a different general manager.
It's going to be a different person. All of that.
But to pass on paying A.J. Brown $25 million a year
to then turn around, give draft picks,
and pay DeAndre Hopkins $19 million a year,
that is, regardless of living in the past,
that is borderline insanity in terms of roster building.
So absolutely not.
That can't be the play. Now,
I'm going to be honest for you guys. I have a scenario where I would do a DeAndre Hopkins trade. Again, this is unlikely, incredibly unlikely. But if Mike Vrabel gets his homie Tom Brady to come to the Titans,
then trade for DeAndre Hopkins.
If Mike Vrabel says, Tommy, let's do this one more run.
I'll make a trade to get you a great wide receiver.
I'll throw all the free agency money at the offensive line.
Please come, Tom.
And Tom Brady says yes.
Okay, then you cut Ryan Tannehill.
That's $18 million in savings.
And then you go get DeAndre Hopkins for $19 million.
And Tom Brady takes a cheap deal to make all of it work?
Okay, then you got me.
Go ahead and make the trade.
But that's not happening.
That's not realistic.
So they're not doing that.
Guys, it's simple.
Hopkins is over 30.
He's been banged up in recent years.
He had a PD suspension because he's trying to prolong his career. He's got a ton of money,
and you got to give up draft picks to get him. I'm sorry, but that's not the move. If the Titans
really want wide receiver that bad, then you take Quentin Johnson. You take Jordan Addison.
You drop down a little and take Jackson Smith and Jigba. The Titans need to get younger.
They need to get faster.
They don't need to make another trade for an over 30 wide receiver dealing with injuries.
Even if Hopkins is a better player than Julio when the trades happen.
Okay?
So, sorry.
I know I got a lot of people riled up yesterday, but I'm out on the DeAndre Hopkins trade.
It is not the route that the Titans need to go.
And at Mike Vrabel's press conference on Monday, he said the team needs to get faster.
DeAndre Hopkins does not get the team faster.
And let's say this.
Ryan Tannehill has never, never in his life been a guy who throws back shoulder fades
on the sideline
and throws pinpoint accurate passes to let his guys go up and get it.
That's not how Ryan Tannehill does his best work anyway.
So it's not a fit with Tannehill.
It doesn't make any sense, in my opinion.
Somebody like the Bears, somebody like the Giants,
let someone else take the 30-year-old wide receiver with injuries that's super expensive
and give up draft picks to get him.
The Titans have done that before.
It's time to move on, get younger, get faster, build through the draft.
With that being said, we are going to move forward.
I think the Titans need to hire their general manager
before they hire their offensive coordinator
because there needs to be somebody to check Mike Vrabel's ego.
We're going to discuss that, and I'm going to tell you
what I think is Taylor LeJuan's future with the Titans. He made some really interesting comments
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We just talked about DeAndre Hopkins, the trade rumors there.
I am out on DeAndre Hopkins for the Titans.
It's a mistake the Titans have made far too many times.
But now I want to talk about the order of operations to which the Titans need to fulfill and fill, really, their vacancies in the front office and with the coaching staff.
So obviously we know the offensive coordinator position is open.
All right.
But we also know general manager is open.
I think it is obvious the Titans need to hire their general manager
before they decide on an offensive coordinator.
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So to me, the big reason the Titans need to hire their general manager before their offensive
coordinator is because Mike
Vrabel is an egomaniac.
All right, I'm just going to put it that simply.
He's a guy who is overly loyal to his guys for most of the time.
He's a guy who doesn't like to make a lot of changes.
And he's a guy who really believes that what he is doing is best.
Some examples for you.
In the 2019 AFC Championship game against the Kansas City Chiefs, multiple Titans veterans
who were in that game have come out and admitted
Mike Vrabel stole play calling duties away from D&Ps during the game
against the Chiefs.
How'd that turn out?
Also, in 2020, Mike Vrabel refused to make Shane Bowen
the defensive coordinator in title.
He only let Shane Bowen be a defensive coordinator in theory, and Mike Vrabel technically had the title of defensive coordinator in title. He only let Shane Bowen be a defensive coordinator in theory,
and Mike Vrabel technically had the title of defensive coordinator. Mike Vrabel has shown
throughout that he loves control and he just won a power battle with John Robinson within the
organization. So we know what we need to know about Mike Vrabel. Now I am on record. I think
Mike Vrabel is a top 10 head coach. And I even said yesterday, him making changes on the offensive staff, that gives me a lot more faith in Mike Vrabel than I necessarily had before
about his ability to adapt and change. But here's the reality here. Someone needs to check Mike
Vrabel. Mike Vrabel needs checks and balances. Period. You can't just let Mike Vrabel do whatever he wants, hire whatever
he wants, make every decision. He's proven to us that he doesn't do a great job with that.
Okay. There are enough examples of him making bad decisions when he does what he thinks is best.
I'm not saying you don't do what Mike Vrabel wants to do, but you need another intelligent
voice in the room that has the confidence to
check Mike Vrabel on his bad ideas. Okay. It's that simple to me. So before Mike Vrabel decides,
I'm going with Tim Kelly, my friend, a guy who's in the organization, but before Mike Vrabel decides
to go with Bill O'Brien, a guy who gave him an opportunity and cronyism and pay that back to him for giving Mike Vrabel the D.C. job in Houston
before Mike Vrabel goes with one of his friends,
which is what he does, goes with his buddies.
Before Mike Vrabel does that,
you got to have somebody in the room to tell him it's a bad idea
or you got to have somebody in the room to tell him,
hey, we need to listen to these other guys from outside the organization. I went through a bunch of different offensive
coordinator candidates on yesterday's show. We talked about Brian Johnson from the Eagles. We
talked about Joe Callahan from the Cincinnati Bengals. We talked about Scott Turner, who was
just let go by Washington. Cliff Kingsbury.
We talked about these guys.
Look, at minimum, even if the right decision for the Titans is to ultimately go with Tim Kelly or to ultimately hire Bill O'Brien,
one of Mike Vrabel's friends, I would feel a lot better about that
if there was another person in the room
checking Mike Vrabel's ego.
It's really that simple for me.
It's that simple.
Somebody needs to be in the room
to call Mike Vrabel out
if he has a terrible idea.
Okay?
And not only that,
but the Titans need to bring in
these other offensive coordinator candidates
to pick their brain about offense.
That's one big secret that a lot of fans don't realize.
These teams don't bring everybody in for an interview
because they actually want to hire them.
Some of the guys that are brought in to interview
are guys that the team knows that they're not going to hire,
but they want to pick their brain about how they do things.
How did their previous organization run?
If you had your opportunity to run this offense,
what would you do?
That kind of stuff is far more important than anything else.
So what the Titans can't do is settle on internal candidates
or Mike Rabel's buddies.
Okay?
They need to pick the brain of these other guys around the NFL
and, if possible, hire them.
So, for me, it's all about the order of operations.
We're hearing about GM interviews right now.
And a guy that I am really excited about is Ian Cunningham,
who is currently with the Chicago Bears,
but cut his teeth building the Philadelphia Eagles roster.
Ian Cunningham is a great candidate for the Titans,
and I think he would bring a fresh perspective to the organization
that could ultimately influence who the offensive coordinator is.
And let me walk you down my thought process here.
Let's say the Titans hire Ian Cunningham,
who just spent the year with the Chicago Bears.
Let's say that that relationship with the Chicago Bears
makes it easier for the Titans to trade with the Bears for the number one pick.
Let's say the Titans are smitten by Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud, and they want to go up to the number one pick. Let's say the Titans are smitten by Bryce Young or CJ Stroud,
and they want to go up to the number one pick and get that guy.
That can only work if the Titans get an offensive coordinator who will take care of that quarterback
and develop them properly. So it would make sense that if the GM comes in and says, hey,
I think we can trade up the number one. And Mike V in and says, hey, I think we can trade up
the number one. And Mike Vrabel says, hey, I really like this quarterback. Let's do it. Then you need
to hire an offensive coordinator with that plan in mind, knowing that you're going to get a new
young quarterback. You don't hire an offensive coordinator based on Ryan Tannehill if you have
a plan when you get a new GM to get Strouder Young.
You see what I mean?
That would be silly.
It would be silly.
So the Titans need to hire their general manager
before they hire their offensive coordinator
or decide on an offensive coordinator
so that the general manager can properly check
Mike Vrabel during that process.
There you go.
That's my opinion on that.
Now, Taylor LeJuan had some
interesting things to say
on his podcast recently
and it shines a real
light on the Titans organization,
some of the injury issues,
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Titans fans, let's cap off today's show.
We're going to talk about some interesting comments Taylor LeJuan made
about a former Tennessee Titans coach
and talk about Taylor LeJuan's future with the Tennessee Titans
that some people just seem to not want to accept the truth here.
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I'm going to dive back
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with the Titans this weekend. So on tomorrow's show, going back over the general manager candidates
for the Titans. But let's dive in to this Taylor LeJuan stuff. Taylor LeJuan said on his recent episode of Bussing with the Boys, the one with
Josh Dobbs on it, that he did not have a good relationship with offensive line coach Keith
Carter, who was just fired on Monday. He said that when Carter came in, it was a dictatorship.
He said that their friendship got better as they worked together more, but then he
corrected himself and say friendship would be a loose term. It was more of a professional
relationship. Read between the lines, guys. Taylor LeJuan hated Keith Carter. Hated him.
And I want to point out here as well, Dennis Kelly, not on good terms with the Titans organization after he left after 2020.
Also, you guys remember Ty Sambrello?
Ty Sambrello quit on the team in the middle of the season.
Taylor LeJuan also mentioned that the Titans practice really, really hard.
Physical, grueling practices.
And Taylor even said Keith Carter did not take care of veteran offensive linemen
as much as he should.
He said that.
If you watch the clip, it's obvious he did not like Keith Carter.
And it makes you wonder.
The Titans finished the season with four out of five backup offensive linemen.
All their offensive linemen got hurt.
Go back to Roger Saffold.
Roger Saffold was hurt the entire season with the Titans last year.
Did he get hurt at all with Buffalo this year?
No.
Interesting, huh?
Right.
Pretty interesting.
So, read between the lines on this.
Read the tea leaves, guys.
And if you won't, I'll do it for you.
The Titans practice hard as crap.
They run their veterans into the ground on the practice field.
And then Mike Vrabel goes up on the press conference,
blames the players off-season training for all the injuries,
and says that the injuries that happen in the game aren't their fault.
Well, maybe, Mike, if you didn't run veteran offensive linemen like Ben Jones, Roger Saffold, Taylor LeJuan into the ground.
And look, Nate Davis can't stay healthy all of a sudden now
because the Titans are beating the crap out of them in practice.
Now, I get practicing hard.
If you practice hard and you practice tough,
you'll be more equipped for the physicality of the league right away.
I get it.
But there is a line in the sand where you are pushing these guys too hard.
And at this point, when the Titans have record-breaking injuries in back-to-back years
and the offensive tackle for the last decade comes out and says,
yeah, they don't take care of veteran offensive linemen in practice.
They push us too hard.
Well, maybe we can start to add this stuff together.
Right?
Right?
So, to me, I thought that was incredibly interesting to hear from Taylor.
To me, it's an indictment of Keith Carter, who was fired.
And a lot of people are saying, well, he was fired.
So, like, you can't blame Mike Vrabel.
Mike Vrabel kept him around for five seasons.
And if the entire offensive line room hated the offensive line coach,
and if the entire offensive line room thought they were being pushed too hard in practice,
well, who employed the guy?
Mike Vrabel.
There is a term in coaching,
or a phrase in coaching.
If you allow it,
you're encouraging it.
If you allow it to happen,
you are encouraging it to happen.
That's what it is in coaching.
You either correct behaviors immediately or it's your fault that they continue. So if Mike Vrabel for five seasons
let this dude alienate the offensive line veterans, and Mike Vrabel was complicit in driving
these dudes into the ground in practice, that's concerning. That is concerning. And with that in
mind, speaking of driving these dudes into the ground, guys, I'm going to say this bluntly.
Taylor LeJuan will not be on the Titans next year.
Stop sending me comments.
Stop sending me questions
about restructuring his contract,
about bringing him back for cheap.
Taylor LeJuan is done playing football.
If you don't believe me,
listen to him.
He's talked about retirement.
He's talked about not wanting to leave Tennessee
where he has a great family.
He has a great podcast.
He has a great media career ahead of him.
Taylor LeJuan is done playing football.
The Titans are going to cut him
because he's $14 million and there's no dead money. The Titans are going to cut him because he's $14 million and
there's no dead money. The Titans are going to cut him. He said it himself. Oh, I'm getting cut.
I'm getting cut because he knows. Because he knows. Taylor LeJuan will be cut by the Titans
and he is going to retire. It's that simple.
There's no restructure.
There's no cut him and bring him back for a cheap deal.
Guys, if you're Taylor LeJuan and you've made millions and millions and millions of dollars,
you've had multiple ACL surgeries,
your body is beaten down,
why would you play football anyways?
Not only that, not only that,
but LeJuan has an incredible media career ahead of him.
He's a fantastic media guy.
He is going to be on game day shows.
He is going to have recap shows.
He has his own podcast that is fruitful.
Balls time. I just want to let you know here He has his own podcast that is fruitful. Balls time.
I just want to let you know here,
Brian Flores is a defensive coach.
So Brian Flores is not going to be an offensive coordinator.
He's a defensive coach.
He was just the linebackers coach for the Steelers.
So just wanted to let you know about that.
Like any trades for...
What are you guys talking about?
Taylor LeJuan is done playing football.
I'm trying to tell you guys.
Now, LeJuan's done playing football.
He's made millions and millions of dollars.
His body has beat the crap and he has an incredible career that he's about to go into.
Plus, he doesn't want to leave Nashville.
His family loves it here.
Everyone loves him here.
I mean, some people don't like him, but if you didn't realize how good Taylor LeJuan is, then whatever. And Titan
the Tiger, I got to disagree with you again. LeJuan is not going to coach. He is going to be
a media star. Taylor LeJuan is going to be incredible in the media. You guys got to give
it up. Taylor LeJuan will be cut. Taylor LeJuan will retire.
Taylor LeJuan will go into his media career and be a star.
And good for him.
Good for Taylor LeJuan.
He has given this franchise a ton.
He was the left tackle during some of the best runs that they ever had.
So I am here to say appreciate Taylor LeJuan for what he's done.
Yeah, Ramon, you know it.
Ramon Raymond, sorry, I don't know the correct pronunciation.
He killed it in the Michigan game.
Yes, Taylor LeJuan was on the sideline with, what's his name, the punter,
Pat McAfee, and Taylor LeJuan was fantastic as a sideline guy.
Taylor LeJuan is going to have an incredible career in media
for the next 30 years.
And he's made enough money.
His body is beaten up enough.
Go be a father.
Go be a media guy.
Go run a podcast.
It's that simple.
It's that simple.
So I'm just trying to break it to you guys easy.
I've been saying it since the middle
of the season. Taylor said it himself. He's going to be cut. He's going to retire. And by God,
he should. And if I was him, I would too. Because he doesn't need to beat up his body anymore.
He's made enough money and he's got a great career waiting in front of him. So thank you,
Taylor LeJuan, for a great career with the Titans.
The Titans have had some of the best tackle play
of any franchise in the NFL
since they started in Tennessee.
And I want to say this,
Taylor LeJuan was drafted
with the number 11 draft pick
and now Taylor LeJuan will retire
while the Titans have the number 11 draft pick
set to take his replacement in the next left tackle of the future
for the Tennessee Titans.
That's going to do it for me today.
Remember, tomorrow, breaking down GM candidates,
talking about the interviews.
A GM candidate declined the Titans, gave them the Derrick Henry stiff arm.
We're going to talk about all of that to cap off the week here of Locked on Titans.
That's going to do it for me today, though, folks.
All of that to cap off the week here of Locked on Titans.
That's going to do it for me today, though, folks.
As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowland, and this was Locked on Titans.