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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Tennessee Titans are flying to John Harbaal on Thursday, and whether he says yes or not, it proves the Tennessee Titans are one of the best job openings in the NFL. I'll rank them on today's edition of Locked on Titan. You are Locked on Titans, your daily Tennessee Titans podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to the Locked on Titans podcast. I am your host, Tyler Rowland Titans fans. Today's edition of the Locked on Titans podcast is brought to you by Price Picks.

Starting point is 00:00:40 Download the Price Picks app today. Use the code Locked on NFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. On today's show, the John Harbaugh sweepstakes are heating up. I'll tell you what the latest is with the Tennessee Titans flying to meet Harball on Thursday. I'll also rank the head coach openings in the NFL and talk about why I think the Titans are one of the most

Starting point is 00:01:03 desirable jobs in the league. Also, we got a massive update on the Titans timeline and when they can hire their head coach, I'll tell you what to expect over the next seven to 10 days. And I'll tell you why the Tennessee Titans absolutely cannot trade for a head coach like Mike Tomlin or Matt LaFleur. Before we dive into all of it, do want to thank you for making Locked on Titans. Your first listen each and every day. Remember Monday through Friday, Tennessee Titans content all year round, always for free. Make sure that you get subscribed. Stay subscribe. It's your team every day here on the Locked on Titans podcast. Speaking of every day, shout out to my everydayers out there.

Starting point is 00:01:39 Tune in Monday through Friday. Couldn't do it with that. You guys, if you aren't in everydayer, what are you doing? No one is keeping you as up to date, as informed, as entertained on the head coaching search like I am here on the Locked on Titans podcast. Also, we're going to have free agency. We're going to have the draft right around the corner, make sure that you stay locked in to the Locked on Titans podcast. But with all that being said, again, the latest on John Harbaal is that he had his meeting with the New York Giants on Wednesday. Harbaal was in New York or New Jersey, whatever you want to call it,

Starting point is 00:02:12 meeting with the Giants and there was this expectation that they were not going to let him out of the building and that he was going to be the New York Giants next head coach. Well, I will tell you this, as I've said all week, as I said last week, I think John Harbaal will be the coach for the New York Giants. He is not coming to the Tennessee Titans, but the Tennessee Titans are going to. to John Harbaugh because it was reported that Amy Adam Strong, maybe some of the Titans brass, are going to go meet with John Harbaugh at his home on Thursday.

Starting point is 00:02:43 There have been reports of her plane leaving Houston, landing in Nashville on Wednesday. I think that's to pick up Mike Borganzi and the crew to go meet with John Harbaal. Harbaal is going to have a meeting with the Titans and the Falcons who are as three finalists with the Giants after all. But again, I have tried to tell you guys, I have tried to warn you and I find the conversation pretty funny that sometimes I tell you guys stuff

Starting point is 00:03:07 that maybe isn't publicly confirmed yet and then people get in my comments and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about when really just you don't know what you're talking about quite yet and this John Harbaugh situation is playing out exactly like I imagine he is using the Tennessee Titans for leverage to get more money more demands more stuff out of the New York Giants And at this point, the answer or the question would be, well, then why is he given the Tennessee Titans a meeting? Well, number one, I'm recording this around 6 p.m. Eastern time on Wednesday night. By the time we hit 10, 11, midnight on Wednesday evening, he could have said, actually, never mind, don't come, I'm signing with the Giants, which would not surprise me whatsoever. But even if he lets the Titans come to him and he lets the Falcons come to him,

Starting point is 00:03:55 that's a courtesy. That's a, hey, I was interested in you. Let me at least, it reminds me of if you've ever seen the movie The Dark Night, which is my favorite movie of all time. Morgan Freeman's character, Lucius Fox, flies to China to meet with Mr. Lau, the businessman. And he says, you know, a phone call could have sufficed. And he said, well, we didn't want you to think that we were wasting your time. And he said, not deliberately, just accidentally. Like, right now, the Tennessee Titans are accidentally wasting their time on John Harbaugh.

Starting point is 00:04:28 Here's the reality. Here's the good news for Titans fans. Something that I mentioned earlier this week. The fact that Harbaal has the Titans in his final three teams proves that the Tennessee Titans are one of the best jobs in the NFL and I talked about it in a short video that I put out on Tuesday night, but don't listen to the haters and the trolls who want to say, oh, Cam Ward sucks, ownership is trash. The Titans are one of the most desirable jobs in the entire NFL,

Starting point is 00:04:57 and that is going to give them actually. to some of the best candidates that are available and that includes John Harbaugh. Because in my world, outside of the Baltimore Ravens, which are by far the best job in the NFL, they have a playoff ready-made team. The Ravens are one of the top five organizations in the entire NFL over the last 20, 25 years basically since they became a team. Other than the Ravens, which is where Harbaal left, the three best job openings are New York, Atlanta, and Tennessee. Those are the three best jobs outside of Baltimore. And I think even if John Harbaal says no,

Starting point is 00:05:33 and when John Harbaal says no, as I've been trying to prep you guys for throughout the last 10 days, I've been trying to warn you and get you ready to go. But when he says no, that doesn't mean that the Titans all of a sudden are a bad job. The best candidate by far on the market and whether you want to believe that or not, the NFL is telling you,

Starting point is 00:05:54 John Harbaal is the best candidate on the market right now, whether you want to believe it or not, that means that the Tennessee Titans are one of the best openings because the best candidate on the market wouldn't just take interviews with anybody and the fact that Harbaal is not going to meet with the Raiders, the Steelers, the Browns, the Dolphins, the Cardinals. That tells you all to need and all you need to know.

Starting point is 00:06:17 So if you're a Tennessee Titans fan right now and you're like, oh, dang man, I wanted John Harbaal. I thought, blah, boy, he's the best candidate. It's not such a bad thing. guys. They may not get the top guy, but I don't think the Titans are the top team. But the fact that they are included in that list does mean great things for the Titans and how the rest of the NFL sees the Titans as a location. And if we're ranking these spots, I told you.

Starting point is 00:06:46 Baltimore is my number one. Baltimore is the best job available in the NFL. Now, Harbaal, obviously, not going there. He just got fired by them. But, you know, you have Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry and a lot of talent. on defense including Kyle Hamilton and the Ravens have been a great organization for forever, you know, stable ownership,

Starting point is 00:07:04 stable front office, anything that you need, you got it in Baltimore. So listen, to me, Baltimore is with a bullet the number one opening in the NFL and nobody can even come close. But after that, I would have the New York Giants, which is why I understand why Harbaugh would go there. They have a good, promising young quarterback in Jackson Dart.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Their roster is excellent, in my opinion. They are primed for a big-time switchup like Jacksonville just did. Jacksonville roster, really good. Get them a good coach. Now they're good. Okay? I look at the Giants and I say, that's a great roster with wide receiver one, left tackle one, good tandem of running backs, good young quarterback, great defensive line with pass rushers in the New York City market. Like, that's pretty hard to beat at the end of the day.

Starting point is 00:07:50 So I would have the Giants number two. Then honestly, at number three to me, it's kind of a tie between the Atlanta Falcons and the Tennessee Titans, and it really just depends on what you're looking for as a head coach. If you want a ready-made team that can go to the playoffs next year and compete, I think the Atlanta Falcons are the team for you. You have an owner that's willing to do whatever it takes. You have really good talent on the offensive side of the ball,

Starting point is 00:08:12 some really good talent on the defensive side of the ball. Yes, they don't have a first-round pick. Yes, there's some uncertainty with the quarterback situation. But if you have a veteran quarterback that you're interested in bringing in, that can be a one-year stopgap for you, that's a team that even with a veteran stopgap quarterback, they went 8 and 9 with Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennix. So like, Atlanta is a team that is rearing and ready to go.

Starting point is 00:08:34 But if that's not what you're looking for because you don't have a quarterback situation, there is some uncertainty with the general manager situation. They don't have a first round pick. If you're looking to kind of start earlier in the process with more of a blank slate to build things up, that is the Titans. The Titans are the best,

Starting point is 00:08:53 blank slate team in the NFL right now. You have Cam Ward a young promising quarterback. You have $100 million in cap space. Mike Borganzi is well respected within the NFL. Yes, Amy Adams Strunk has had some firings as of late. But don't you think that Amy Adam Strunk is looking to have some stability and looking to be a little less quick triggered here going forward? You can't just keep doing that.

Starting point is 00:09:18 So now, whereas you could look at it and say, oh, you know, why would you take the Titans job, you could be fired in a second. If Amy does that again, then no coach will want to come here. She can't do that again. So I think the next general manager, Mike Borganzi, and then the next head coach, whoever they hire, they're going to get way more patience than they probably even deserve just so Amy could say, I was patient.

Starting point is 00:09:42 You know what I mean? So I don't think that the ownership concerns that you guys put in my comments and stuff are as significant to head coaches as you want to say because at the end of the day, Amy can't be as impulsive as she, even though I don't think she's been impulsive. She should have fired Brian Callahan. She should have fired Rancarthon. The only problem was firing Mike Vrable.

Starting point is 00:10:00 She should have fired John Robinson. Fire in Mike Vrable was the only impulsive wrong move that she's made. You know, everything else has been correcting mistakes on hires, not fires. So with that in mind, to me, those are the top four jobs. By far, I had Baltimore way up at the top, then New York, then I'd have the Titans and the Falcons tied depending on what you want and after that the Raiders

Starting point is 00:10:25 the Steelers the Browns the Dolphins look the Raiders you get the number one pick you're going to get Fernando Mendoza quarterback but that is actually bad ownership that's been a problem for a long time their roster has some pieces but it doesn't have enough to come in right away

Starting point is 00:10:41 and compete in the AFC West the hardest division in football Pittsburgh I talked about Pittsburgh yesterday you have no quarterback following Mike Tomlin? Yeah, it's a great organization. But a lot of your best players are old and on their last legs. The Browns, the Dolphins, the Cardinals, do I even need to explain why those are terrible jobs? Tua, Kyler Murray, bad organizations themselves. The Browns, I mean, come on now, what are we talking about here? So, to me, I know that some people are going to be

Starting point is 00:11:11 disappointed that John Harbaugh is not going to be the head coach of the Titans, but what it means for John Harbaugh to pick the Titans in his top three. I think that means something and Titans fans should be very excited about what that can mean going forward. Now, when are the Tennessee Titans actually going to hire a head coach then? Well, good news Titans fans, they can hire a head coach any time they want now and I'll explain why. Do want to let you guys know that today's episode is brought to you by Quo, new year new systems. This is the time when a lot of us look at the messier parts of how we run our business and think there has to be a better way. And there is.

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Starting point is 00:14:35 The Tennessee Titans can hire a coach if they want, they have satisfied the Rooney Rule. How did they do that? Well, they had an in-person interview earlier this week on Monday with Rahim Morris, the former head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. Not to be reductive or anything, but Raheem Morris is a black man. And then Mike McDaniel met with the Tennessee Titans in person on Wednesday and if you were unaware, Mike McDaniel, the former head coach of the Miami Dolphins, is biracial. He's half white and half black. So that does check off both the boxes of the Rooney

Starting point is 00:15:10 Rule. Now, I think both of those guys are deserving to be head coaches in the NFL. Rehim Morris may have had two opportunities before he didn't capitalize on, but that guy is still a pretty good coach even if he may not be good enough to get one of these jobs. And Mike McDaniel, I thought he just did an okay job with Miami. He may not be one of my top. candidates, but I do think that Mike McDaniel gets a head coaching job in this cycle. So the Titans did two good interviews there that satisfy the Rooney rule, which means they are legally allowed to hire their head coach. And look, I know that this conversation is less than appetizing. I don't like talking about it either. But as long as the NFL has a rule

Starting point is 00:15:47 that says that teams can't hire a head coach until they interview two people of color or two females, we have to talk about it. And people are asking me about it and we want to know. So I know that it's not a fun conversation to have. I don't enjoy talking about that kind of stuff. But at the end of the day, that's the rules. And the Titans have satisfied those rules. So the Titans can hire their head coach any time they want. But here's the reality.

Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't think they're going to hire their head coach anytime soon. And when I say soon, I mean in the next 7 to 10 days. I don't think that the Tennessee Titans have a head coach by Monday or something like that per se. I think it's more likely that the Titans hire their next head coach like 10 days from now next weekend looking at January the 23rd which is Friday January the 24th Saturday January 25th on Sunday

Starting point is 00:16:41 I think the Tennessee Titans will hire their next head coach next weekend but the point is if they go visit John Harbaugh at his house on Thursday and he does say which I don't believe but let's just for the sake of conversation and John Harbaugh says, I want to be the next Tennessee Titans head coach. The Titans are legally allowed to put pen to paper and hire him now, which is important. And I think that the reason the Titans aren't going to hire somebody

Starting point is 00:17:11 until next weekend is because they need to do their second round of interviews. They have done 19 interviews. Well, it'll be 19 on Thursday when they talk to John Harbaugh officially. But not very many of them were in person. About maybe four or five, maybe six at most of those have actually been in-person meetings. And the Tennessee Titans are going to move from round one

Starting point is 00:17:35 to round two of their head coaching search and do in-person interviews with all of their candidates. Also, something to consider is there could be candidates that the Tennessee Titans are interested in. They aren't available for in-person interviews. Think about a guy like Chris Shula. think about, they didn't even request him, but just for conversation sake, think about a Kuibak.

Starting point is 00:18:00 What if the Seahawks? What if the Rams win this week? Then they won't be available for in-person interviews. So there is a chance that the Titans wait even longer than that if they want somebody who's coaching a playoff team. But I got to be honest with you. I don't think that that's going to end up being the case. I think the Titans are going to end up hiring somebody

Starting point is 00:18:19 who is available and I think that hire will come by next weekend. But at the end of the day, the reason for that is, again, like I said, the Titans need to go through their second round of interviews. We just got, remember, over the weekend, the Titans finally officially announced the seven head coaches that they had interviews with during week one. This week, they have done another round of round one interviews

Starting point is 00:18:42 with their initial candidates. They have 19 people. What they're going to do is they're going to whittle that down. They're going to whittle it down to about five or six people maybe seven at the max and then they're going to do in-person interviews another round of interviews

Starting point is 00:19:00 a secondary interview with all the people that they're interested in and then I think after those final interviews then they'll compose themselves they'll gather as a group they'll go over everything they've seen and they'll make their decision so I think the Titans have a head coach

Starting point is 00:19:15 by next weekend the 23rd the 24th the 26 that's my take that's my opinion, that's my guess. Could I be wrong about that and they could wait even longer? Absolutely. Absolutely, that's possible. But that would be my idea as well. Now, again, they're allowed to do that

Starting point is 00:19:34 because they've satisfied the Rooney Rule. Now, I want to talk about Mike McDaniel who was in person with the Tennessee Titans on Wednesday. And Mike McDaniel is a guy who's getting a ton of buzz right now and I know we talked about him on yesterday's show, but after he actually went and met with the Titans in person, And funny, there was a picture circulating online from Mike McDaniel who flew from Detroit to Nashville on Wednesday,

Starting point is 00:19:57 and it was a picture of him in the Detroit airport, getting ready to go to Nashville. And it's him. That's 100% sure. Now, not that I didn't believe that Mike McDaniel was coming to Nashville or anything, but it's always funny to see those kind of pictures. It's like Bigfoot. Like you catch somebody out in the wild or something like that.

Starting point is 00:20:12 But Mike McDaniel makes a ton of sense, guys. I'm still pretty convinced that he would be a better offensive coordinator than a head coach for the Tennessee Titans. But the reality is, why would you be the offensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans when you could be the offensive coordinator or the Philadelphia Eagles? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:20:30 Like, if you're not going to get the big chair and you're going to have to take an assistant job as a coordinator, why would you go to the Titans who don't have a lot of weapons on offense and have a young quarterback. Like, I would much rather, if I got to spend a year as an offensive coordinator before I move on to get another head coaching opportunity,

Starting point is 00:20:47 I'd much rather do that with the chargers with the Eagles, like I said, like they're, you know, or the commanders or something like, I just don't think that Mike McDaniel would take the offensive coordinator job for the Titans unless his best buddy Robert Salah

Starting point is 00:21:03 got the head coaching job. But would he be upset that they gave the job to Salah, not him? And then maybe say, no, I, come in any way. You hire me for the head coaching interview. You didn't pick me. I'm not coming there as a backup. I think that would be a fair position.

Starting point is 00:21:19 for Mike McDaniel to make as well. So, listen, I think McDaniel is a very good teacher. He's good at teaching things to people. He's very digestible in the way that he gives information. You watch videos of him talking to different players and coaching them up. He does a really good job. And that is teaching. In my opinion, whether you're a teacher, you're a coach,

Starting point is 00:21:42 you're a manager, you're a tutor, you're a whatever. If your job is to teach people and cultivate people, You have to be a good teacher at the core. All of those jobs at the core of it is teaching. And to be a good teacher, you have, and I don't want to make it sound offensive, but you have to dumb things down for people when you're talking about complex things.

Starting point is 00:22:06 So in a video that my guy, Justin Graver from a Titan film room, he posted a video of Mike McDaniel at Dolphins Practice. And he's talking about Tua's bass. like his feet. And he's saying that we want a wide base for the quarterback because then you don't have to take false steps to get to a wide base and you could torque your hips and torque your core

Starting point is 00:22:31 with a wide base and it helps you throw the ball and get rid of the ball quicker. So that's the technique and the mechanics that I'm teaching toa. And he was explaining it to a dolphin's executive. Okay? And the way that he explained it to the executive was think about Tiger Woods. Think about a golf swing.

Starting point is 00:22:50 You keep a wide base on your driver. When you're hitting driver, you're supposed to have a much wider base than you do when you're hitting irons or you're chipping or you're putting. You have a much wider base so that you can generate more torque, you can generate more force when you drive the ball. Now, you may not care about golf and that's perfectly fine, but the moral of the story is Mike McDaniel did a great job of dumbing down something as complex as quarterback mechanics

Starting point is 00:23:18 into something that your average everyday dude can understand because most average everyday dudes golf. You know what I mean? So he was turning something complex that's complicated like football mechanics and throwing the football and turning into something that your everyday guy would understand pretty quickly. And that right there is teaching.

Starting point is 00:23:36 It's not to say that your audience is dumb and quite frankly, I do this a lot on the show. I use analogies. I use metaphors. I like I use the example from the dark night you have to use these sort of things comparisons comparison is the father of learning is a famous phrase

Starting point is 00:23:54 using metaphors and comparisons and analogies that's how you get people to understand things that are complex that they maybe don't understand by teaching them using something that they do understand so shout out to Mike McDaniel who does a really good job of teaching he's obviously a very gifted offensive mind

Starting point is 00:24:15 the questions are the leadership. And I've seen people push back and say, the dolphins didn't quit and this and that. And I've gone over my reasons for having concerns. But at the end of the day, I ranked Mike McDaniel as the number seven coach on my wish list. He's in the middle of my happy tier. I would still be happy,

Starting point is 00:24:34 but more importantly than his interview, not to be reductive here, but he does check the final box. So having Mike McDaniel in is smart, not only to get his take on Cam Ward to look at him as a potential candidate for real. I think he is a serious candidate for this job. But also now the Titans are in the clear to make that move.

Starting point is 00:24:52 So that's the timeline that I'm looking for. That's the update on the Rooney Rule. Mike McDaniel was in on Wednesday and now the Titans go fly to John Harbaal to see what's going to go on with that. But with all that being said, I do want to make my point here. The Tennessee Titans can absolutely not trade for a head coach.

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Starting point is 00:28:23 Talked about the John Harbaugh update where I would put the Tennessee Titans as a job in the NFL. We talked about the timeline for a hire and why I think it's going to be. next weekend that the Tennessee Titans actually make their move now. And a little update here. I always have to look at my phone this time of year. I don't mean to be like not paying attention or anything like that. But news breaks all the time. And a guy who I'm really interested in is Robert Sala.

Starting point is 00:28:52 And the Tennessee Titans are going to meet with Robert Sala on Sunday. Okay, so really love hearing that for the Titans. It'll be virtual interview with the 49ers win. in-person interview. If the Titans don't win, he's going to meet with the Ravens as well. I think he makes sense for both teams. Again, if the Titans get Robert Salas, their head coach,

Starting point is 00:29:11 Mike McDaniel would make a ton of sense as an offensive coordinator if he's willing to take that position. But regardless, no matter what the Titans want to do at head coach, they cannot trade for a coach. That is the one thing they cannot do. Number one, I think there are a lot of good options on the market right now between a John Horrible, a Kevin Stefansky, a Mike McCarthy, a Robert Sala, a Cliff Kingsbury, a Mike McDaniel, a Chris Shula.

Starting point is 00:29:39 You know, they didn't request him, but a Clint Kubiak, for example, Jeff Halfley as well. Like, there are so many decent options out there that the Titans can't afford to go out and spend draft capital and think about the last coach that was actually traded for. Who is the last coach that actually was traded for? It was Sean Payton. Now, that did work out pretty well for the Denver. Broncos right but look at what they gave up look at what they gave up the Broncos

Starting point is 00:30:09 traded a first round pick a second round pick and a third round pick and the Broncos had the number 29 first round pick so it the Titans have number four not number 29 so like it would be a totally different deal for the Titans to give up their first round pick for a coach I I'm not giving up two or three picks for a head coach. What are we talking about here? Especially when Matt Lafleur, I think, would... Matt Lafleur would be my number one candidate.

Starting point is 00:30:44 For sure, if he was available. But Matt Lafleur isn't as good of a coach as Sean Payton had been in his career. Peyton was one of the best coaches of the last 20 years. You're not giving up anywhere close to that for a guy like Matt LaFleur. Like, come on, let's be serious here. Mike Tomlin, he's probably closer to the Sean Payton conversation. But again, Mike Tomlin does not want to coach. It's not a situation where the Titans could even trade for Mike Tomlin.

Starting point is 00:31:15 He wants a break. He wants to spend time with his family. There's some conversation out there that Tomlin might not come back to coaching at all. He might just go into the media. He's had his fill. So, like, I just think any idea of, Trading for a coach is assonine. Like the Titans roster is nowhere near good enough to do that.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Their picks are way too good to give up for a coach. And Matt Lafleur is not worth trading for, in my opinion, with the type of quality candidate pool that is out there right now. It just does not make any sense whatsoever for the Tennessee Titans. It doesn't. But with that being said, that is going to do it for today's edition. So much going on right now, guys. Again, make sure that you get subscribed, stay subscribe, stay up to date, stay informed, stay entertained,

Starting point is 00:32:08 stay locked in here with me. But that's going to do it for me today, folks. As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowan, and this was Locked on Titans.

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