Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Locked on Titans: Breaking down the disaster against the Ravens

Episode Date: October 15, 2018

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Welcome in to another edition of Locked On Titans. I'm Jimmy Morris, joined as always by Terry Lambert. Terry, I'm not going to bother to ask you how you are tonight. We suffered through the same game today. So I'll just ask you your kind of like immediate feelings right now. Confused, disappointed. I just, I want football to be fun and it is just not fun with this Titans team. And it hasn't been for a long time, and that just really needs to change. Yeah, I mean it's been – I mean obviously, okay, so the Titans lost to the Ravens today 21-0. First time they've ever been shut out at home since they became the Titans. Mariota was sacked 11 times.

He completed 10 passes. Listen, he wasn't good. He had a throw at least to Taewon Taylor that if he would have hit, they would have at least scored. Now, I don't know that it would have made any big difference in the game, but he missed that throw. He needs to hit that throw.

At the end of the game, you could tell he was seeing ghosts, as you like to say. Was starting to try to leave the pocket before the pressure really even got there. But who can blame him after he's been sacked, you know, whatever it was, five, six times in the first half. It's tough to trust your protection up front. Like you said, it's just frustrating because we see all these teams around the league putting up all these points. And, you know, I was watching, recording this Sunday night, watching the first half of the Chiefs and the Patriots game.

And even Mahomes threw two picks in the first half, but, like, they're moving the ball into the field. They're fun to watch. You know, and he made a dumb throw at the end of the half there. But, like, they got something going on offense. And the Titans just don't have anything going on offense it's a disaster all the way around um it's it seems to be getting worse by the week and like you said i mean now it's we're going on well i mean i don't i can't remember the last time the the titans

weren't fun to watch on offense like mike heimerdinger steve mcnear i mean it really feels like it's yeah yeah chris johnson okay so yeah but i mean it really feels like it's been that long and even ch Yeah, Chris Johnson, okay. So, yeah, but I mean, it really feels like it's been that long. And even Chris Johnson, that was a long time ago. That was like 10 years ago when he was, you know, at his height. So, I just – I don't know. And I struggle to see how it's going to get better. Now, they won't face defenses that were as good as the Ravens were today. But even still, I guess bad defenses, I'm not sure how they're going to do much better.

Yeah, I feel like we try and keep it pretty positive around here. But you can't spin this any sort of good way. I mean, the offensive line can't protect. Marcus Mariota is clearly still hurting, first of all. But let's talk about that. Broadcast talked about it. I don't think that hand is completely right, but then you see him go do what he did against the Eagles,

and so that's just frustrating. He can clearly do it, but he can't do it two weeks later. So I don't know if there's been regression there. It's clearly still bothering him because he's still got that glove on. So you've got a banged-up quarterback. You've got an offensive line that is just underperforming. It's so bad right now. That interior is awful.

And then you don't have any playmakers outside of Corey Davis on offense. And even Corey Davis, he needs to do more. He needs to win one-on-one matchups. He needs to be that guy that becomes matchup proof. You get taken at number five overall. You have to go be that guy. So at some point, he's going to have to step up, be the alpha, be the guy that can go win a matchup no matter who's lined up across the field from him.

Today, though, 11 sacks. That is mind-blowing. Credit Baltimore, they were aggressive. They teed off. They blitzed and blitzed and blitzed. Tennessee couldn't handle it. Marcus Mariota couldn't handle it. After you get hit five, six, seven times, it starts getting in your head.

He's got to look out for himself. So just a total, total disaster. And I don't know how to sell people that it's going to get better. Yeah, that's the tough part is, you know, sometimes in a loss you can find, okay, well, they did this well and they did this well and they just, you know, got a bad break. Or even last week in Buffalo, I mean, the offense wasn't good, but if they don't turn the ball over three times, they win that game, you know.

But, I mean, today, there's nothing. And I still am frustrated with the way that things go with this offense. I'm frustrated that Mark's Mario and Taylor can't hook up on that pass. I mean, it was a bad throw. There were a couple throws of Corey Davis, one where

he just didn't get his head around the ball, hit some in the arm because he didn't turn around fast enough or whatever. I don't know. Maybe Mark Marcus knew it earlier than he would have normally because, again, he was, you know, scared back there, which you can blame him for that. There was another play where it just kind of looked like they weren't on the same page as far as where the route was going. We've seen so much of that. And, you know, we've heard that it would take a while for this offense to click. But I don't even think this is about an offense that's not clicking.

This is not about a couple of plays here and there that if the guy makes the right break or makes the right read or whatever, that things would be different. I mean, this is just a disaster. It's a personnel disaster. And, you know, listen, we love John Robinson, and if you look at the talent of the roster, the overall talent of the roster,

where it is now versus where it was when he took over, he's done a lot of really good things. I mean, they're more talented from 1 to 53. I mean, easily, easily more talented than they were when he got here. But at the same time, we're talking about offense right now, so we'll talk about that specifically. The interior of the offensive line has not gotten any better. He has not upgraded things there.

They re-signed Josh Klein. Ben Jones has been here. Quentin Spain. That group is not good enough. Ben Jones is not very good. He struggled last year. They should have done something there. The playmakers, there's not enough there.

And, I mean, I want to see the film because, you know, people say, well, you know, on a few of those sacks, Mark's held the ball too long. Well, maybe, but it also felt like there wasn't anybody open. Like when they went back and showed the replays, at least from what you could see, there was nobody for him to throw to. Now, you can't tell that definitively until you can see the All-22, but they just don't have any body or at least multiple bodies that can get open. Like you said, you want Corey Davis to be that guy that no matter what the matchup

that he's facing, he can do that, and that's not the case right now. And again, a guy that we think is very talented, a guy that we think has all the skills in the world, but let's look at what he's done. He had a great game against the Eagles. Well, you know what? The Eagles' cornerbacks are terrible. They're really, really bad. Didn't show up last week, didn't show up this week.

And again, it's not just him. I mean, obviously, there's a lot more in play. But the Titans are just – they have some huge deficiencies from a talent standpoint. And, of course, you can't project that you're going to lose a guy like Delaney Walker. I'm not sure how much different it would be if he was here. But there's not enough talent on the offensive side of the ball. Again, Marcus is not playing well. Don't get me wrong.

I think we a lot of times get called Marcus apologists. I'm not trying to be that right now. But he doesn't have any help, and he's not playing well. So when you combine those two things, it just makes for a disaster. So I think the struggles can be pinned to the run game. That's my working theory right now. There's just nothing there, and I think it all goes back to the offensive line.

They're just not getting a push. This new scheme is not working just yet. Deion Lewis has been probably a little bit of a disappointment, honestly. Derek Henry is still I think he's been better the last couple weeks, but still

he leaves a lot to be desired to me. The Titans have to get those two guys going. People want them to be the Rams. What do the Rams have? They have a really, really good ground game with Todd Gurley. That's something that opposing defenses fear. That's something they have to account for.

If you're going to stack the box against Todd Gurley, Jared Goff is going to hit you over the top to Brandon Cooks and Robert Woods and Cooper Cullen. I mean, he's got so many weapons. Marcus doesn't have that right now. You can't trust Tajay Sharp to go get open. You can't just trust Taewon Taylor to go get open. And there's no fear with this run game.

There's just none. There's nothing there. So until they get that fixed, I don't think the offense is going to be fixed. You're not going to throw 50 times a game and be successful. We've seen that. They kind of abandoned the run today. Not that giving Derrick Henry more carries would have fixed it today, but it wasn't happening through the air and Mark Samaria was getting killed. So I wouldn't have hated

to see more from Derrick Henry, more from Deion Lewis today. But first and foremost, to me, that's what's got to get fixed. Yeah, they've got to have that threat. I think you're right there, and they don't have it right now. And I don't think Derrick Henry's the answer. Like you said, Deion Lewis has been disappointing, haven't been able to get him going.

So I don't know. It's just been a disaster all the way around. And at some point we're going to look back at this. And, you know, they had the draft where they traded all the picks to the Rams. And when you walk away from that draft, which Jack Conklin has been very good, but, you know, your three second-round guys were, what,vin dodd austin johnson and derrick henry right that's the that's the three they got in that draft yeah in the second round you need those three you know that those four picks that first round pick and those three second round picks

need to be you know like cornerstones of your franchise going forward and i mean i think you can say conklin it is he's been good enough. But those other three guys, I mean, obviously, Dodd's not here anymore. Austin Johnson, whatever. Derrick Henry is a, you know, a fine piece. But it just seems like, I don't know, it seems like they could have done more with that. And it just seems like we're kind of just, I mean, just seeing some talent problems.

Again, we talked last week. I mean, this is going to probably be a reoccurringcurring theme about you know not adding a receiver in the offseason uh just all those kind of things that you know looked like things that should have happened that just didn't so um i don't know but they got the personnel they got right now and so uh we'll see we'll see how that how that works going forward i'll talk a little bit about the defense here in just a sec before we do that today about my bookie have you been listening to the show for any length of time, you know that MyBookie has been sponsoring us for a long time. We like talking about them because the thing is people are betting more and more online now, and there's all kinds of sites out

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has probably been the strength of the team leading through you know the first five weeks of the season but they were bad today they couldn't go off the field um i don't have the first down you know percentages in front of me but i feel like the Ravens were like 20 of 21 or something like that. 12 of 17. 12 of 17. Wasn't quite as bad as I felt, but still really bad. Especially a few of them were not like third and ones. There was a third and 17 in there.

There was a few more things that were – it just seemed like whenever they wanted to get yardage, they just had to go to the middle field. Middle field seemed like it was wide open all day. Now, look, I don't know. You know, there was a lot of talk leading up to this game about, you know, Dean Pease. Dean Pease was their defensive coordinator last year.

You know, he would have familiarity with their offense. I don't think that that really turned out to be true because their offense is so much different this year than it was last year. But maybe it worked the reverse. The Ravens knew about Dean Pease about what he likes to do on defense and maybe they knew that there was something they could exploit during the middle of the field I don't know if that was it I think it was more a fact of the Titans are weak in the middle of the field right now especially when you look at their inside linebackers and what they've got going on there um listen Malcolm Butler was the big-ticket free agent guy.

He was the guy that was supposed to come in and solidify the secondary because the secondary wasn't terrible last year. But he was the guy they gave a bunch of money to. He was supposed to come in and fix it. And he has been terrible. We talked about all the stuff with Super Bowl and why didn't he play and all that stuff. Maybe now we just come to the conclusion

that he didn't play because he wasn't any good. He wouldn't have helped them in that game. We talked in training camp about the energy he brought and the plays he was making and all that kind of stuff. That was all nice. But he has been a liability. It seems like it's putting it

nicely for him. Whenever teams want yardage, they just target him. And the thing is, he's on this team for the next, what, three or four years. I mean, they're not going to cut him because of the contract they gave him and, you know, what it would do to their salary cap. So I don't know. Do you bench him? I mean, I don't know what the answer is.

But, you know, again, if there are things we want to criticize John Robinson for, that's probably the top of the list right now. Absolutely. So you give up deep balls to speedy receivers, and now you get just abused all day by Michael Crabtree. He had no answer for Crabtree. And Crabtree's still a pretty good receiver. You know, you talk about Titans not adding a free agent receiver.

There's another guy that was on the market that Titans could have used. Crabtree ate him up. I don't know what Butler is good at. That's just weird to say. LaShawn Sims cannot be worse. I'll say that. No, absolutely not.

I don't know if you can play that though. I don't know if you put your $65 million man or whatever it was on the bench. I don't know how that looks. I don't know if Mike Vrabel and John Robinson care how that looks. So something's got to change. That's a clear, clear weak point in this defense. But another clear weak point is not having Wesley Woodyard on the field. I didn't see this coming.

I thought, you know, Rashawn Evans will grow into his own. You know, you still got Jayon Brown out there. No, it's been awful ever since he hasn't been on the field. You can say the same for Kenny Vaccaro, too. So that's two huge pieces in the middle of this defense. So it makes sense as to why the Ravens were having so much success in the middle of the field today. Those guys, they can't come back quick enough.

Again, it wasn't all bad for the defense. They only gave up 21 points, but Baltimore was playing to just kind of let the air out of the ball at the end of the game there. So, you know, you're not going to win a lot of points, a lot of games scoring, what, 12 points in the last two weeks, something like that. So it's just ridiculous.

The defense didn't get a lot of help from the offense today. Not saying that's an excuse, but overall the defense wasn't terrible, just absolutely atrocious on third down. Yeah, they just couldn't get off the field. And I think, you know, when you look at the numbers, the numbers are not, like, it's not, you know, something that you would look at and be like, oh, my gosh, they were terrible.

Flag up three for 238 on 37 attempts, touchdown and interception. They ran the ball 35 times for 123 yards. I mean, they scored twice on the ground. But that's 3.5 yards of carry. I mean, that's not, you know, just horrific reading like that. But, like I said, they couldn't go off the field. I think that was the biggest thing. I don't know that it would have mattered.

I mean, they would have just given the Ravens more opportunities to sack Mariota. It could have, you know, increased their franchise record for sacks in a game. But, you know, it just seems like for the second week in a row, for sacks in a game. But, you know, it just seems like for the second week in a row, it wasn't, like I said, you look at the numbers and they don't look that bad. We talked about it last week about how the Bills ran for a pretty good yardage total, but they did it on a bunch of carries.

I think the Bills averaged like 3.3 yards per carry, something like that. But it's just like they can't get stops when they need to get them. Can't get off the field. And like you said, Crabtree's a good receiver, sure. But he's a guy that Malcolm Butler is supposed to be good against. When we talk about how he gets beat deep by the speedy guys, okay, so then you give him a guy like Crabtree. You don't put him on John Brown, who ended up was the guy that I think we were all the most afraid of,

and he ended up not hurting the Titans very much. I mean, he had, what, two catches for 28 yards. But he was a bowler's own crap to me most of the day, and it just can't stop him. Whenever they needed something, that's where they went, and they were able to pick up the yards that they needed. So I don't know. It's one of those things that I think is – I mean, it's a whole team thing, right?

Because, again, when you look at the numbers, the defense wasn't terrible. They were on the field for most of the day. Now part of that was their doing, not being able to go fill in third down, but part of it was, like you said, the offense couldn't sustain anything. But, so, I mean, it's not, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Would we feel better about it if there was like, okay, well, the offense is terrible, the defense is terrible, there's like one or two things they can fix.

I think the most frustrating part about this right now, number one, like you said from the beginning, it's not fun to watch. But number two, they have so many problems. It's like if they can get one thing fixed, you've still got this other gaping hole over here. And so it's going gonna take like three or four weeks if you're able to fix like one thing a week it's gonna take like a month to get right and they they don't have that i mean luckily and we can talk about this a little bit later but like the i mean the jaguars got boat raced again so i mean the the titans are still technically first

in the division so i mean they got that going for them. But I don't know at this point. I mean, if the Titans were to win the division, right, and there's a long way off in whatever. But, like, I mean, they would get a home playoff game. But you wouldn't feel any different about the Titans in the playoffs at this point this year than you did last year. I mean, they might get in. They might be able to win that first home game.

But when you get against a team that has an offense like New England or Kansas City, whoever it may be, they're not going to be in the same class as those teams. And we're going to see it next week when they go to London to face the Chargers. I mean, that's one of the best offenses in the league. They're clicking on all their cylinders right now. And I'm a little bit worried. That kind of feels like a name- a name your number type of game.

Hey, fire up Melvin Gordon and Geenan Allen. Yeah. Fantasy. But yeah, the first thing for me is the arrow is no longer pointed up. You know, they're getting worse. I don't, I almost wish the Eagles game didn't happen. You know, that just gave us so much hope. And even the Houston

and Jacksonville game, they were creative with their scheme. I think they out-coached the staff across the field from them. And I don't know how you go from those three games to these last two games. Buffalo's probably better

than you think they are. They gave Houston a pretty good game today. Man, I don't know how you go from looking that good against the Eagles to just this utter disaster on offense. And I know the big play there was there to Taewon, and Marcus messed that up, and that's been a theme. But, man, zero points. Hey, I'm just sitting here watching Kansas City and New England go up and down the field.

It's so easy. Swing screens, pop screens, anything. Did the Titans run a screen today? They ran one in the fourth quarter. Okay, so if the pass rush is getting to you and they're blitzing like crazy, don't you think a screen would be something that you would want to work into your offense to make things easier on Marks Mariota? Little things like that, I'm really disappointed in Matt LaFleur so far.

We keep hearing it's going to take six weeks, it's going to take X amount of time. We're here. This was the sixth game, so it's got to start getting better and uh it's as bad as it's looked all year yeah absolutely all right well coming up we'll wrap up kind of that discussion uh and then look around the division look forward a little bit uh to wrap wrap up this show so i mean i think the point you make about coaching is an interesting one because, listen, after, you know, what they did at the Texans, what they were able to do in Jacksonville,

and then the game against the Eagles, we were all flying high on this coaching staff on this team. And look at what, you know, when they were down on their tackles and down on their quarterback, you know, they always create stuff. They installed the Wildcat on Friday and ran it successfully on Sunday. You know, all these different things that, like, had us really excited about what this coaching staff was going to be. And then it's just kind of fallen flat the last couple of weeks. I mean, like we talked about last week.

I mean, I think you pointed it out. You know, it seemed like Derrick Henry was about to get going in that game last week in Buffalo. They just kind of stopped giving the ball. And then today, like, you know, I like derrick henry was about to get going in that game last week in buffalo they just kind of stopped giving the ball and then today like the the you know i mean everybody knows right if you've got a pass rush that you can't slow down screens and draws right i mean that's that's the thing that you always hear and i could be wrong but i really don't think they ran one until the fourth quarter they ran to dion lewis i think that was the first not only screen they ran all day we didn't see a wide receiver screen all day. Not that I remember, anyway. So, I mean, there's just – it seems like there's some different things that they could do.

Vrabel had a terrible challenge today. Now, you can't blame him, I don't think, for that. And, you know, he was asked about it after the game. He said basically things are moving fast, and I think he was curious about it. But the people upstairs have got to relay that to him, and that's their job. curious about it, but the people upstairs have got to relay that to him. That's their job. But it just seems like overall there's not any type of adjustments being made,

whether it be from week to week or in-game, that give the team a chance. Listen, we talked about it, how, like you said, one, it's going to take a while for this to click. But like you said, we're there. We're there and we're not any closer. I mean, now you're two weeks removed from a good game, and you've got six weeks of work, and you have one good game

on offense. And we can make all these excuses in the world, and a lot of them are valid, and I will I think it's really, really dumb to hold either Houston or Jacksonville against Matt LaFleur, against his offense offense as far as when you look at the numbers. Obviously, they won those games, so you're not going to be upset about that. But numbers-wise, it's stupid to hold those games against them.

But for the last three weeks, you have been as healthy as you're going to be. I mean, Delaney Walker's not coming back, so that's over, that's done. Like I said, you've got the one good game against the Eagles, but then you've got two duds since then. At some point, you start to think, no, the Eagles game is not what this offense is going to be. The Eagles game is the outlier,

and the rest of the season is what the offense is going to be. Yeah. I don't have a real good idea for the direction they want to take this team. It seems like they abandoned the run so quickly. You're rotating in Derrick Henry and Deion Lewis, neither of which have been great.

I don't understand seven carries for Derrick Henry, considering what Marcus Mariota was consistently facing today, as a coach, I can't imagine keep calling the plays that you were calling and watching Marcus Mariota get hit. You've got to trust your players to execute. You've also got to clue in. Hey, this ain't working. I've got to do something different here. That was my biggest takeaway, just the lack of the lack of

adaptation the lack of changes the lack of adjustment it's just not who Matt Lafleur was built out to be so I just I don't know if this offense is gonna work I don't know if the offensive line is good enough. You saw Quentin Spang go down today. Corey Levin came in. Josh Klein was awful. You paid him a lot of money, and he's just not very good. You talked about Ben Jones not being very good. I think I can pin it personally on the offensive line right now

because if you get that run game going, you can get the play-action game going, you can get Marcus Mariota rolling. So I don't know what the answer is. That's the problem. I don't know if the Titans have good enough players to really get this Titans run game off the ground. And I hated the handoff to Deion Lewis on third and 10 with 40 seconds to go. I mean, that just seems so counter to what mike variable has done

in other situations so far and i mean at that point you know i guess it was what it was 14 nothing at that point um you've gotten nothing going all day and i mean i get it but you know the thing is if you're home i don't know i i just to me that was just basically hey we don't we don't trust our guys here to make the right decision to take care of the ball or whatever it may be. And, I mean, I'm almost like playing scared. And I don't know. I just, there's just such a lack of, like, words that come to mind

because it's so hard to watch. And it's so frustrating when we were, you know, I mean, just two weeks ago, right, coming off the Eagles win, you know, starting off 3-1 versus all the, you know, adversity they had faced, seeing all that stuff. Like, hey, this is a team that's going to really make some noise. And now you're like, well, I mean, maybe they can, maybe because the AFC South is so bad, they can hang on and win that. But I don't know.

I just don't have a lot of confidence about the team going forward. And, you know, listen, the NFL changes so much week to week, so it's hard to see it. And we saw how this Ravens team was bad last week against the Browns at offense plus. So you never know, but you're thinking about going to London, then you've got the bye week, then you've got the Cowboys on Monday night, and I felt pretty good about that game until they went and hung

with 40-something on Jacksonville today. So I don't know. You feel like unless this team can be in a game that the total points scored are going to be somewhere in the high 30s, low 40s, they're not going to have much of a chance to win. Yeah, and your point about the NFL changing week to week is a good one. It's very valid. But I'm here to tell you, if you're not blowing guys off the ball,

if you're not getting a push in the run game, things aren't going to change. You're going to really struggle on offense. So that's the biggest part for me that's got to get fixed. I don't know if the Titans have the personnel to do it. Suddenly, we're talking about the Titans needing a guard. You start to think ahead a little bit.

Titans are going to have to replace some guys. Maybe replace Ben Jones. Maybe replace Quentin Spain. I doubt you move on from Josh Kline right now. They have to get better in the interior. And I'm not sure you can put a need ahead of that for me right now. Yeah, and then the other thing, too, we say it changes from week to week. The Titans offense, it feels like it hasn't changed in years.

So that's the frustrating thing. I mean, it looks a little bit different, but the results just seem to be the same. It's never consistent, and they just don't put up much points. I don't know. First training, obviously, place to be right now. But anyway, so we'll kind of power through here and hope maybe they can go across the pond,

and maybe they're a different team in a different country. Maybe they can go over there and surprise all of us and get a win, and then we'll be having a different conversation next week. I have zero confidence right now that that's going to happen. But anyway, so like I said, you know, if you are looking for a silver lining here, I don't have one from this game, but Jaguars lost. Titans still sit atop the division. You know, like I said, I don't have a lot of faith in that long term,

but as far as it could be worse, obviously, if Jacksonville were the team that everybody kind of crowned them to be a couple weeks ago, times would be two games back or something like that, and you'd be looking at, feeling like the season was definitely over.

Anyway, we'll keep an eye on all that. Terry, anything else we need to hit before we get out tonight? I think that covers it. Like I said, we'll be back tomorrow with all that. Terry, anything else we need to hit before we get out tonight? I think that covers it. All right. So, like I said, we'll be back tomorrow with another episode. You can check us out on museummiracles.com. I think I mentioned that on the top of this show. You know, just so ready to jump right in.

But at museummiracles.com, we cover the Titans, the Reds, and the Nation there. We'll have a lot more on this game, everything leading up to the London game. So check us out there. You can follow us on Twitter. I'm at jmorrismcm. Terry's at tlambertfb. So check us out there. Podcast account at LockedOnTitans. Search out LockedOnTitans wherever

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