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Welcome in to another edition of Locked On Titans.
Jimmy Morris joined as always by Terry Lambert.
Terry, how are you?
Doing pretty good. What's going on?
Not too much, and we are joined again tonight by Justin Mello.
Again, you can follow him on Twitter at JustinM underscore NFL.
You can follow his work on The Draft Wire,
and you can follow that on Twitter at The Draft Wire.
Justin, what's going on tonight?
Well, boys, glad to be back.
Yeah, thanks so much for joining us again.
All right, so last night we talked a little bit about just the overall Titans offseason,
the Titans draft needs, and got into some of the edge prospects
that they could be possibly considering at 25 and beyond.
Tonight we're going to maybe go a little bit more rapid fire with,
um,
with guys that the Titans have been connected to visits or,
you know,
workouts that they've done at different pro days or whatever.
Before we jump in again,
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Terry and I right there covering the Titans for SB nation.
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Um,
and Justin's a,
the perfect guy to have on
for this conversation because he's really plugged in
with these guys and he's done a lot of interviews.
Go back to last night's episode.
He gave you kind of some
tidbits about Harold Landry that we didn't know.
So really cool to have him back
to talk about this. Okay, so last night
we talked a little bit about receiver.
It's interesting that the
Titans seem to be doing a
lot of work on the you know top receivers in this draft now this is not a loaded wide receiver class
it doesn't even have you know the top three like last year's draft did but you know some guy maybe
a guy or two to go in the first round and then there'll be a few guys that go in the second
and the titans have at least shown some type of interest in a couple of those guys.
So we're going to start kind of that conversation off.
And, you know, again, just kind of to reset the receiver thing,
we feel very confident in Corey Davis.
Injuries limited him last year.
The offensive scheme was terrible.
So we're, you know, trying not to judge anybody too much on what they did last season.
You've got Rashard Matthews, obviously a solid number two.
Behind that, you've got question marks. I mean, we think that Taewon Taylor has a chance to be good.
But, again, limited last year just, I think, by the scheme more than anything else.
You've got Tajay Sharp, who started off good in his rookie year,
kind of slowed at the end and then missed all of last season with injury.
So, you know, guys, they've got some talent there, but you've got question marks.
We talked a little bit last night.
It makes sense to bring in maybe a veteran guy to add here,
maybe not necessarily another young guy.
But if they've got a guy that they feel like fits and it's a weapon that they need,
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans go that direction.
I would be surprised to see them go there at 25, but maybe not in the second round.
So Corlin Sutton, I think, is, for most people,
the number one receiver in this class.
Again, the Titans have been connected to him.
Justin, kind of give us your thoughts on him.
Yeah, Corlin Sutton's a guy that I really, really like
and I have throughout the entire process.
The big questions surrounding him were his ability.
Can he create separation and long speed?
I think those were the two things that most were concerned about him.
I thought it was very big for him that he went combine.
Kind of put those questions to bed, in my opinion.
Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.54 seconds.
Three-cone time was excellent.
I believe it was around a 6.57.
Really excellent time for his size. This guy was
6'3", 218 pounds.
I think very similar to Mike Williams
in the sense where he entered the combine
where those were really the only two questions about him.
Put up very similar numbers
for Mike Williams, actually. I think the 40-yard dash
time was identical. Williams
ends up going 7 overall
last year, despite those things.
I think we can see a similar rise with Sutton. I's a big big riser after those combine numbers excellent potential here
uh very physical wide receiver really love his personality i think he's got that alpha mega
personality obviously that build you know size and length that teams look for in a number one
receiver uh this is a guy who plays with a lot of size and strength, shows up on tape.
He, you know, time and time again, he wins those 50-50 balls.
Nightmare in the red zone, thanks to his frame.
You know, he kind of uses that frame to box out the defense, you know, within that 20-yard radius.
This is a guy who I think has a chance to be the first receiver off the board.
Really good player.
I think he could quickly turn into a number one for a team.
Still think his route running is a work in progress.
Didn't ask him to run the full route at SMU, but he's a guy, again,
I've been a big fan of throughout the entire process.
He's someone who I think will go early,
and I'm expecting him to be a very good player at the next level.
Tajay Sharp, Corey Davis, Taewon Taylor,
all kind of cut from the same cloth in that they really put up big numbers in college it's been a trend of John Robinson's
to capitalize and take that production
that receiver, two guys this year
cut from that cloth are Richie James from MTSU and Michael Gallup.
Just kind of connecting the dots there.
The Titans have shown interest there.
If I had to bet money, one of those two guys would probably be Titans in my mind.
Tell us about each one of those and where you expect them to come off the board.
And if there are any other guys on day two or day three that kind of fit that mold.
I'm a big fan of both players that you just mentioned,
starting with Richie James, you know, keeping it local with an MPSU guy.
This is a guy who is a Swiss Army knife type of weapon.
I mean, operated at every position, a receiver, operated out of the backfield,
ran some wildcat, took some carries,
even looked like a traditional running back on some snaps,
and was very good at doing that when they asked him to.
Very smooth route runner who has a knack for making the big play.
At MTSU, it was very obvious he was the best receiver, best player on offense on their team,
focal point of their offense, and defenses still couldn't stop him.
He made big play time and time again.
Someone who's very,
very good after the catch.
Very electric with the ball in his hands.
Picks up yards after catch.
There's something that comes
so easy to him. I really enjoy watching
him with the ball in his hands.
He's so elusive
in the open field.
To me, a guy like Richie, I've been saying it
for months now, he was hurt throughout
2017, missed the majority of the year,
injured,
undersized guy as well. But when you put
on the 2016 tape,
it holds up with any receiver
in this class. I do not think
there's a receiver in this class who has
better tape than Richie James did
in 2016.
That's why he's a top 100 player on my board.
I mean, the Titans took K'Wan Taylor somewhere in the 70s last year,
and I agreed with that decision.
I think Richie's very similar in terms of skill set-wise and the amount of talent that he has to attain.
Really, really like him as a player.
Again, one of my favorite sleepers in this draft. Top 100 talent.
I think if he falls out of that top 100 range,
teams will regret it.
And unfortunately, I think it's probably going to happen.
I think teams are going to have some questions about the injury.
I think they'll probably be concerned about his size.
But I do think they'll live to regret it.
Someone who I think is going to be a very, very good player at the next level.
You also mentioned Michael Gallup. Another guy I think is going to be a very, very good player at the next level. You also mentioned
Michael Gallup, another guy I'm a big
fan of. A guy who plays the position
where he's got great size
for the position. Uses his body
very effectively. Very smart
player.
Knows how to gain position with his body.
Went to the Combine,
had a great time.
Had a great result at the combine.
Explosion, I thought, was something that was very evident within both on tape
and during the testing. 36-inch vertical, 10-2 rod,
long arms, which he uses in the red zone. He's really a weapon
down there. Comes down with 50-50 balls on a routine
basis here. Very strong hands that he uses to
puck the ball. One of my favorite things
about him, or I should say my favorite thing about
him, is his route running ability.
Very smooth, very crisp.
Another guy, similar to Richie, who's very dangerous
after the catch. He's someone who I
think has an all-around skill set. Very
versatile, very good. I expected
him to make an immediate impact
from day one. Again, a
very smart player. I see him
as someone who's probably going to go in the second round, but relatively
early. Someone who I think comes off
the board in the top 56 probably.
Alright, coming up, we will continue
our conversation with Justin Mello
and maybe shift gears a little bit to the deepest
side of the ball.
Alright, so again, we're joined by Justin Mello.
He is on Twitter, at JustinM underscore NFL,
writes for the DraftWire, at the DraftWire.
I have been talking a little bit about safety being a need for this team.
I get that the Titans have their two starters.
Kevin Byard is obviously an all-pro safety.
Jonathan Ciprian I don't think is very good.
But even with that notwithstanding,
the Titans don't have depth behind those guys currently.
I'm not saying that you pick a safety at 25,
but I think it would be a good idea for them to get a young safety in this draft
that they think they can mold and can play alongside Kevin Bayard in the next couple of years.
I know they've been connected to Justin Reed.
Justin, what do you think about him, and who are the other safeties in this draft that,
I mean, you know, the top two or three safeties in this draft?
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Justin Reed.
He's someone who I think is going to come off the board in the first round,
so I don't think the Titans will have a chance at him
unless they're considering taking him at 25.
This is the kind of guy who
can change the game in an instant.
Quick twitch athlete,
and that was something that was on display
in Indianapolis at the Combine.
Ran the 40-yard dash
in 4.4 seconds flat.
He's really an excellent time for safety. He's someone, when you put the tape on, you'll see ran the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds flat. It's really an excellent time for a safety.
He's someone, when you put the tape on, you'll see him working out of the slot, worked a
little as a deep middle as well.
Very smooth athlete, changes direction effortlessly.
Someone who's in a position with great instincts.
That's something that I think is very important, obviously, when playing in a safety position.
They're going to come up with a knock on him.
Guy's got a bit of a thin frame, 6'2", 207.
He's going to have to add some muscle there.
Another thing that I really like about him that I don't think is talked about enough,
he went to Stanford.
I know a couple of the guys on that team interviewed a few of them this year.
Stanford, obviously a very prestigious academic institution.
That's something he was challenged with on a daily basis,
having to bounce the active rigors that come with attending Stanford
and trying to bounce that while playing football.
And that's something that's very difficult.
Very smart guy.
I imagine he's someone who's going to test really well in the interview room.
He's probably going to blow coaches away with his football IQ.
I talked to his teammate Quentin Meeks about him a little bit and Meeks raved about him.
And he raved about how the Stanford defense gets you ready for the next level.
It's a scheme that played mostly one high,
but they mixed in some zone.
They mixed in some cover too.
So Reed is really going to be,
you know,
he's really entering the NFL with a lot of experience to his name of,
you know,
very versatile player.
He's someone who I think is going to make a team very happy.
Now, again, he's a guy who I think is going to come off the board in the first round.
If the Titans are looking for an alternative, maybe round two or three,
I'd stay local with the kicker of Tennessee, Rashawn Golvin,
the guy who I think is going to be a better pro than he was a collegiate player.
Very, very intriguing skill set.
You know, Tennessee used him in an interesting this year,
a very interesting this year.
And then they used him in a number of ways.
You know, they played some man coverage with him.
He worked out of a slot.
I even saw some snaps where they used him as a dime linebacker
or rushed off the edge.
And I don't imagine he's going to be used in many situations like that at the
next level, but on the flip side, teams
are going to like that versus Tilt. This is a guy
I know the Titans have shown interest in.
I know they have something scheduled with him over
the next few days. He's someone
who I think would make a lot of sense for them in
round two or three. Very, very physical
player with a very intriguing
skill set. Someone who even, as I
said, has the ability to cover guys one-on-one. So I think he's someone
that could add a lot to the team next year.
Yeah, I can confirm on Golden. I covered him at Rocky Top Talk
last year, and the dude just carried defense.
Not a lot of good going on in that defense, but he was about the
only thing they had going there.
Sticking in the secondary,
I feel like the Titans have filled their need at cornerback.
You've got those top three guys set.
You've even got your top four, maybe even your top five set.
So why on earth would the Titans have a private meeting
with Josh Jackson out of Iowa?
Can you tell us why and where would Jackson fit
if he were to be drafted by the Titans?
Yeah, I was just as surprised as you were
by the fact that they were going to be spending so much time with him.
Obviously, the corner room seems to be shored up
with Logan Ryan, Azuri Jackson, and Malcolm Butler. They've got a ton invested into the position as is.
With Jackson, I imagine it goes back to doing your due diligence. He's a guy who's a first-round
talent. I imagine if you were operating from a best-player-available scenario, he's someone
who's probably going to be pretty high on their board with good reason. Someone who's
got a lot of length and ball skills you know those are two things that defensive
coordinators obviously covet uh at the next level he's someone when i put the tape on i watch him
play man coverage allowed very little separation on tape i think that's probably the best asset
that he brings to the table another uh you know another another thing about him is he's a guy
who has that ability to win contested
catches. I mean, he's, you know, teams
love turnover production coming out of the
secondary. He had eight intersections
in 2017. If I had
one knock on him, I think he could be a little
more physical given his size.
He's a relatively big guy, but he doesn't always
play like it. I think he could, you know,
do a better job getting involved in the run game
and sort of being, you know being more willing in the tackling department.
Mainly played zone at Iowa.
Bit of an average athlete at best, to be honest.
Change of direction skills leave a lot to be desired.
But again, I'm very surprised that they're spending so much time with him.
He's obviously someone who I believe is going to be a first-round pick.
Maybe this team knows something we don't,
and I would imagine it just comes down to due diligence.
You know, corner is obviously a very important position of the way NFL
offenses are operating right now.
It's a pass-happy lead.
You never have too many quarters.
And my guess would be the Titans want to be prepared for all scenarios
in the draft.
Malik Jefferson, another guy that the Titans have been connected to.
What are your thoughts on him?
Where would he fit in the Titans scheme,
and where do you think he ends up going in the draft?
Well, linebacker's obviously more of a position of need right now
on the roster than corner is.
So when you're spending time with him, I think it makes a lot more sense.
This is a guy who, you know, is really physically the total package.
I mean, size, size athleticism physicality are
all there he checks off all those boxes lots of range to his game uh you know he covers a lot of
ground in a short amount of time my issue with him is right now he's someone who I think is very raw
you know I see him right now as a better athlete than football player yes all the physical attributes
are there but to me they outweigh what he did
on tape. There's not a lot of good
that I saw on tape with this guy, and
he's not someone personally that I would draft
before the third round. The processing
speed just isn't there for me right
now, and it's obviously so important
playing the linebacker position. I
interviewed a linebacker today who said
to me, hey, you know, playing this position,
we're the quarterbacks of defense.
I thought that was a very interesting statement.
I think that's very true.
Linebacker is someone who's got to be, you know, got to be able to process things in a quick manner.
And you really are.
You have to be an excellent communicator.
You have to be an excellent leader.
And for me, I just don't see those areas with him right now.
I think he's someone who's probably going to get drafted earlier than the third round.
Again, I'm not really comfortable taking him before the third round,
but I see him going in the second.
I think a team will bet on his athletic traits
and hope they can kind of fill the rest out.
A guy that we've seen a lot in mock drafts,
but we haven't really seen the Titans connected to visit-wise,
and maybe you can tell us differently,
Rashawn Evans out of Alabama,
a guy that makes sense if all the edge rushers are gone.
There's still somewhat of a need at linebacker there.
What do you think of his game, and would he fit this defense?
Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen them connected to him in any way but obviously playing the
linebacker position it's one thing so naturally he's going to be someone who's connected to the
man with good reason when i put the tape on with him what i see is you know a bit of a do-it-all
prospect you know mainly at alabama played the sam position was kind of you know spent the early
downs chasing the ball carrier would try to get after the quarterback on third and obvious passing situations,
they put him in an additional rush to quarterback.
I see some good speed and power to his game on tape.
You know, has that ability to play on third down.
You don't have to take him off the field,
which teams love nowadays, obviously.
Those linebackers that can play all three downs.
He is someone who I'm comfortable playing in coverage.
I think he has the ability to cover running backs and tight ends.
I don't think he's helped himself that much throughout the process.
You know, we got wind that teams were a little disappointed
that he didn't run the 40 at either the combine or at his pro day.
I think they had some questions about his long speed,
and he didn't answer them.
I know a few teams were disappointed.
Another thing that would concern me with him is
I think there's going to be a bit of a transition period
with him. That rule that Alabama asked
him to take is not really something that
translates to the next level where he was
so focused on just taking the ball carrier
on early downs and then rushing later
on. It's not something you're going to be
really doing at the next level.
I think as long as teams are patient with him
I think it can absolutely work out and he can put it all together.
But I do think he's going to have to be brought along a little bit slower
than most of the linebackers that we're seeing locked in the first
or second round.
All right, Justin, before we let you go,
is there anybody else that you have seen the Titans tied to that we haven't
talked about that you think makes for, you know, an interesting pick,
whether it be, you know, an interesting pick, whether it be,
you know,
on the first day or later in the draft.
Uh,
yeah,
two guys I'll mention,
and both would be,
I think day two or even day three guys is edge rusher,
Dorrance Armstrong from campus.
This is a guy who's a highly,
highly athletic editor.
Very,
uh, very obvious why the Titans are doing their homework on him.
You know,
the measurables are just off the charts. Really, really
long athlete. Got those long arms you
want out of an edge rusher. He's a little
bit raw, but the
quickness and the short area burst are
two things that are very evident on tape
for me. Very, very edge
defender. When I tape on, he's
also good against the run. He's someone
who I thought was actually
very good against the run. Surprised me in I thought was actually very good against the run.
Surprised me in that area.
Plays the game with a good motor.
I think sometimes he's still kind of figuring it all out and putting it together.
I think he's got all the tools, but he's still figuring that out.
I kind of see him overthinking and over-pursuing at times.
Based on the athletic profile, there's a ton of upside here.
Another guy who I know they've spent some time with who I actually really like,
we talked about them doing their homework on corners,
where I don't think it makes sense to send their first-round pick on the corner.
I would like to see them use maybe a third or fourth-round pick.
And one guy who makes a lot of sense is D.J. Reid.
This is a guy who's got 28 career pass breakups,
seven interceptions throughout his career at Kansas State.
Very, very good player.
I think he's an ideal nickel corner, a little bit undersized guy.
Comes from the Juco ranks, but he's someone, if you haven't had a chance to watch the tape,
I highly suggest that you find some time for him.
Very, very good football player.
I think he's someone who's going to outperform his draft
position. If the Titans
can get this guy in round three or even
four, I think he's someone who's really going to
pay them back for making that investment.
Terry, you don't
want to ask about John Kelly?
We know how good
John Kelly's going to be. I don't need Justin to
tell me.
Yeah, that's someone, man, I love him.
Whether you ask me or not, I'm going to put that out there.
I love him.
He's someone, I interviewed him about three weeks,
I think it was about three weeks ago, and I had a blast with him, man.
I was actually ready for the combine.
I spoke to him, and we were talking about the 40-yard dash
and how he was going to perform.
He's someone who I think plays a lot faster than he tested,
and he knew that was going to be the case.
One thing he said to me, and I absolutely love this quote,
the fun tidbit I'll give you guys, how much fun this guy is.
He said to me right before he ran the 40-yard dash, he said,
I wish they could put a linebacker behind me.
I guarantee you I'd run a faster time if I had one of those guys chasing me down.
And I loved it, man.
I had such a good time with a really good kid.
In my opinion, the meanest running back in this class, man.
I'm not betting against that guy.
He's a bowling ball, man.
I asked him why is it so hard to bring him down,
and he said simply because I want it more than you do.
Absolutely.
I mean, he's one of the most fun guys to watch on tape.
The dude just runs angry.
He put the entire Tennessee offense on his back at times.
You know, Butch Jones was just telegraphing runs up the middle,
and he would just throw stiff arms.
So, yeah, I mean, he's coming into the NFL with the right mindset, 5'9",
just barely 205 pounds.
But, yeah, like you said, I'm not betting against that guy for sure.
Yeah, no, and one thing, you know, I'm very lucky to be in a position
where I actually get to interview a lot of these kids and spend time with them.
And, you know, obviously try not to make too many judgments
in one half-an-hour conversation.
But I'm lucky to kind of get that feel for a guy.
And I'm telling you, man, I really, really enjoyed my time with him.
He's someone with a great personality, passionate, loves the game.
And what you see is what you get.
He's tough as nails.
All right.
Well, Justin, we really appreciate you taking the time over the last couple of days to talk draft with us.
Again, you can follow Justin on Twitter at JustinM underscore NFL, and you can follow his work on the DraftWire at TheDraftWire.
Justin, maybe we can catch up after the draft.
We have this class and kind of get your breakdown of what went right and what went wrong for the Titans and your idea on the prospects that they've got coming in.
Absolutely. Yeah, I'll be around. You guys know where to find me.
Sounds great.
All right, and again, we appreciate you coming on with us.
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