Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Locked on Titans: Breaking down Titans Draft visitors with Justin Melo

Episode Date: April 12, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome in to another edition of Locked On Titans. Jimmy Morris joined as always by Terry Lambert. Terry, how are you? Doing pretty good. What's going on? Not too much, and we are joined again tonight by Justin Mello. Again, you can follow him on Twitter at JustinM underscore NFL. You can follow his work on The Draft Wire, and you can follow that on Twitter at The Draft Wire.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Justin, what's going on tonight? Well, boys, glad to be back. Yeah, thanks so much for joining us again. All right, so last night we talked a little bit about just the overall Titans offseason, the Titans draft needs, and got into some of the edge prospects that they could be possibly considering at 25 and beyond. Tonight we're going to maybe go a little bit more rapid fire with, um,
Starting point is 00:00:45 with guys that the Titans have been connected to visits or, you know, workouts that they've done at different pro days or whatever. Before we jump in again, musiccitymiracles.com, Terry and I right there covering the Titans for SB nation. You can follow us on Twitter. I'm at jmorristmcm.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Terry's at TLambertFB. Um, and Justin's a, the perfect guy to have on for this conversation because he's really plugged in with these guys and he's done a lot of interviews. Go back to last night's episode. He gave you kind of some
Starting point is 00:01:14 tidbits about Harold Landry that we didn't know. So really cool to have him back to talk about this. Okay, so last night we talked a little bit about receiver. It's interesting that the Titans seem to be doing a lot of work on the you know top receivers in this draft now this is not a loaded wide receiver class it doesn't even have you know the top three like last year's draft did but you know some guy maybe
Starting point is 00:01:36 a guy or two to go in the first round and then there'll be a few guys that go in the second and the titans have at least shown some type of interest in a couple of those guys. So we're going to start kind of that conversation off. And, you know, again, just kind of to reset the receiver thing, we feel very confident in Corey Davis. Injuries limited him last year. The offensive scheme was terrible. So we're, you know, trying not to judge anybody too much on what they did last season.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You've got Rashard Matthews, obviously a solid number two. Behind that, you've got question marks. I mean, we think that Taewon Taylor has a chance to be good. But, again, limited last year just, I think, by the scheme more than anything else. You've got Tajay Sharp, who started off good in his rookie year, kind of slowed at the end and then missed all of last season with injury. So, you know, guys, they've got some talent there, but you've got question marks. We talked a little bit last night. It makes sense to bring in maybe a veteran guy to add here,
Starting point is 00:02:32 maybe not necessarily another young guy. But if they've got a guy that they feel like fits and it's a weapon that they need, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans go that direction. I would be surprised to see them go there at 25, but maybe not in the second round. So Corlin Sutton, I think, is, for most people, the number one receiver in this class. Again, the Titans have been connected to him. Justin, kind of give us your thoughts on him.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, Corlin Sutton's a guy that I really, really like and I have throughout the entire process. The big questions surrounding him were his ability. Can he create separation and long speed? I think those were the two things that most were concerned about him. I thought it was very big for him that he went combine. Kind of put those questions to bed, in my opinion. Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.54 seconds.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Three-cone time was excellent. I believe it was around a 6.57. Really excellent time for his size. This guy was 6'3", 218 pounds. I think very similar to Mike Williams in the sense where he entered the combine where those were really the only two questions about him. Put up very similar numbers
Starting point is 00:03:35 for Mike Williams, actually. I think the 40-yard dash time was identical. Williams ends up going 7 overall last year, despite those things. I think we can see a similar rise with Sutton. I's a big big riser after those combine numbers excellent potential here uh very physical wide receiver really love his personality i think he's got that alpha mega personality obviously that build you know size and length that teams look for in a number one receiver uh this is a guy who plays with a lot of size and strength, shows up on tape.
Starting point is 00:04:06 He, you know, time and time again, he wins those 50-50 balls. Nightmare in the red zone, thanks to his frame. You know, he kind of uses that frame to box out the defense, you know, within that 20-yard radius. This is a guy who I think has a chance to be the first receiver off the board. Really good player. I think he could quickly turn into a number one for a team. Still think his route running is a work in progress. Didn't ask him to run the full route at SMU, but he's a guy, again,
Starting point is 00:04:33 I've been a big fan of throughout the entire process. He's someone who I think will go early, and I'm expecting him to be a very good player at the next level. Tajay Sharp, Corey Davis, Taewon Taylor, all kind of cut from the same cloth in that they really put up big numbers in college it's been a trend of John Robinson's to capitalize and take that production that receiver, two guys this year cut from that cloth are Richie James from MTSU and Michael Gallup.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Just kind of connecting the dots there. The Titans have shown interest there. If I had to bet money, one of those two guys would probably be Titans in my mind. Tell us about each one of those and where you expect them to come off the board. And if there are any other guys on day two or day three that kind of fit that mold. I'm a big fan of both players that you just mentioned, starting with Richie James, you know, keeping it local with an MPSU guy. This is a guy who is a Swiss Army knife type of weapon.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I mean, operated at every position, a receiver, operated out of the backfield, ran some wildcat, took some carries, even looked like a traditional running back on some snaps, and was very good at doing that when they asked him to. Very smooth route runner who has a knack for making the big play. At MTSU, it was very obvious he was the best receiver, best player on offense on their team, focal point of their offense, and defenses still couldn't stop him. He made big play time and time again.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Someone who's very, very good after the catch. Very electric with the ball in his hands. Picks up yards after catch. There's something that comes so easy to him. I really enjoy watching him with the ball in his hands. He's so elusive
Starting point is 00:06:21 in the open field. To me, a guy like Richie, I've been saying it for months now, he was hurt throughout 2017, missed the majority of the year, injured, undersized guy as well. But when you put on the 2016 tape, it holds up with any receiver
Starting point is 00:06:38 in this class. I do not think there's a receiver in this class who has better tape than Richie James did in 2016. That's why he's a top 100 player on my board. I mean, the Titans took K'Wan Taylor somewhere in the 70s last year, and I agreed with that decision. I think Richie's very similar in terms of skill set-wise and the amount of talent that he has to attain.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Really, really like him as a player. Again, one of my favorite sleepers in this draft. Top 100 talent. I think if he falls out of that top 100 range, teams will regret it. And unfortunately, I think it's probably going to happen. I think teams are going to have some questions about the injury. I think they'll probably be concerned about his size. But I do think they'll live to regret it.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Someone who I think is going to be a very, very good player at the next level. You also mentioned Michael Gallup. Another guy I think is going to be a very, very good player at the next level. You also mentioned Michael Gallup, another guy I'm a big fan of. A guy who plays the position where he's got great size for the position. Uses his body very effectively. Very smart player.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Knows how to gain position with his body. Went to the Combine, had a great time. Had a great result at the combine. Explosion, I thought, was something that was very evident within both on tape and during the testing. 36-inch vertical, 10-2 rod, long arms, which he uses in the red zone. He's really a weapon down there. Comes down with 50-50 balls on a routine
Starting point is 00:08:02 basis here. Very strong hands that he uses to puck the ball. One of my favorite things about him, or I should say my favorite thing about him, is his route running ability. Very smooth, very crisp. Another guy, similar to Richie, who's very dangerous after the catch. He's someone who I think has an all-around skill set. Very
Starting point is 00:08:19 versatile, very good. I expected him to make an immediate impact from day one. Again, a very smart player. I see him as someone who's probably going to go in the second round, but relatively early. Someone who I think comes off the board in the top 56 probably. Alright, coming up, we will continue
Starting point is 00:08:38 our conversation with Justin Mello and maybe shift gears a little bit to the deepest side of the ball. Alright, so again, we're joined by Justin Mello. He is on Twitter, at JustinM underscore NFL, writes for the DraftWire, at the DraftWire. I have been talking a little bit about safety being a need for this team. I get that the Titans have their two starters.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Kevin Byard is obviously an all-pro safety. Jonathan Ciprian I don't think is very good. But even with that notwithstanding, the Titans don't have depth behind those guys currently. I'm not saying that you pick a safety at 25, but I think it would be a good idea for them to get a young safety in this draft that they think they can mold and can play alongside Kevin Bayard in the next couple of years. I know they've been connected to Justin Reed.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Justin, what do you think about him, and who are the other safeties in this draft that, I mean, you know, the top two or three safeties in this draft? Yeah, I'm a big fan of Justin Reed. He's someone who I think is going to come off the board in the first round, so I don't think the Titans will have a chance at him unless they're considering taking him at 25. This is the kind of guy who can change the game in an instant.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Quick twitch athlete, and that was something that was on display in Indianapolis at the Combine. Ran the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds flat. He's really an excellent time for safety. He's someone, when you put the tape on, you'll see ran the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds flat. It's really an excellent time for a safety. He's someone, when you put the tape on, you'll see him working out of the slot, worked a little as a deep middle as well.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Very smooth athlete, changes direction effortlessly. Someone who's in a position with great instincts. That's something that I think is very important, obviously, when playing in a safety position. They're going to come up with a knock on him. Guy's got a bit of a thin frame, 6'2", 207. He's going to have to add some muscle there. Another thing that I really like about him that I don't think is talked about enough, he went to Stanford.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I know a couple of the guys on that team interviewed a few of them this year. Stanford, obviously a very prestigious academic institution. That's something he was challenged with on a daily basis, having to bounce the active rigors that come with attending Stanford and trying to bounce that while playing football. And that's something that's very difficult. Very smart guy. I imagine he's someone who's going to test really well in the interview room.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He's probably going to blow coaches away with his football IQ. I talked to his teammate Quentin Meeks about him a little bit and Meeks raved about him. And he raved about how the Stanford defense gets you ready for the next level. It's a scheme that played mostly one high, but they mixed in some zone. They mixed in some cover too. So Reed is really going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:18 he's really entering the NFL with a lot of experience to his name of, you know, very versatile player. He's someone who I think is going to make a team very happy. Now, again, he's a guy who I think is going to come off the board in the first round. If the Titans are looking for an alternative, maybe round two or three, I'd stay local with the kicker of Tennessee, Rashawn Golvin, the guy who I think is going to be a better pro than he was a collegiate player.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Very, very intriguing skill set. You know, Tennessee used him in an interesting this year, a very interesting this year. And then they used him in a number of ways. You know, they played some man coverage with him. He worked out of a slot. I even saw some snaps where they used him as a dime linebacker or rushed off the edge.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And I don't imagine he's going to be used in many situations like that at the next level, but on the flip side, teams are going to like that versus Tilt. This is a guy I know the Titans have shown interest in. I know they have something scheduled with him over the next few days. He's someone who I think would make a lot of sense for them in round two or three. Very, very physical
Starting point is 00:12:20 player with a very intriguing skill set. Someone who even, as I said, has the ability to cover guys one-on-one. So I think he's someone that could add a lot to the team next year. Yeah, I can confirm on Golden. I covered him at Rocky Top Talk last year, and the dude just carried defense. Not a lot of good going on in that defense, but he was about the only thing they had going there.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Sticking in the secondary, I feel like the Titans have filled their need at cornerback. You've got those top three guys set. You've even got your top four, maybe even your top five set. So why on earth would the Titans have a private meeting with Josh Jackson out of Iowa? Can you tell us why and where would Jackson fit if he were to be drafted by the Titans?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, I was just as surprised as you were by the fact that they were going to be spending so much time with him. Obviously, the corner room seems to be shored up with Logan Ryan, Azuri Jackson, and Malcolm Butler. They've got a ton invested into the position as is. With Jackson, I imagine it goes back to doing your due diligence. He's a guy who's a first-round talent. I imagine if you were operating from a best-player-available scenario, he's someone who's probably going to be pretty high on their board with good reason. Someone who's got a lot of length and ball skills you know those are two things that defensive
Starting point is 00:13:48 coordinators obviously covet uh at the next level he's someone when i put the tape on i watch him play man coverage allowed very little separation on tape i think that's probably the best asset that he brings to the table another uh you know another another thing about him is he's a guy who has that ability to win contested catches. I mean, he's, you know, teams love turnover production coming out of the secondary. He had eight intersections in 2017. If I had
Starting point is 00:14:13 one knock on him, I think he could be a little more physical given his size. He's a relatively big guy, but he doesn't always play like it. I think he could, you know, do a better job getting involved in the run game and sort of being, you know being more willing in the tackling department. Mainly played zone at Iowa. Bit of an average athlete at best, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Change of direction skills leave a lot to be desired. But again, I'm very surprised that they're spending so much time with him. He's obviously someone who I believe is going to be a first-round pick. Maybe this team knows something we don't, and I would imagine it just comes down to due diligence. You know, corner is obviously a very important position of the way NFL offenses are operating right now. It's a pass-happy lead.
Starting point is 00:14:52 You never have too many quarters. And my guess would be the Titans want to be prepared for all scenarios in the draft. Malik Jefferson, another guy that the Titans have been connected to. What are your thoughts on him? Where would he fit in the Titans scheme, and where do you think he ends up going in the draft? Well, linebacker's obviously more of a position of need right now
Starting point is 00:15:14 on the roster than corner is. So when you're spending time with him, I think it makes a lot more sense. This is a guy who, you know, is really physically the total package. I mean, size, size athleticism physicality are all there he checks off all those boxes lots of range to his game uh you know he covers a lot of ground in a short amount of time my issue with him is right now he's someone who I think is very raw you know I see him right now as a better athlete than football player yes all the physical attributes are there but to me they outweigh what he did
Starting point is 00:15:46 on tape. There's not a lot of good that I saw on tape with this guy, and he's not someone personally that I would draft before the third round. The processing speed just isn't there for me right now, and it's obviously so important playing the linebacker position. I interviewed a linebacker today who said
Starting point is 00:16:02 to me, hey, you know, playing this position, we're the quarterbacks of defense. I thought that was a very interesting statement. I think that's very true. Linebacker is someone who's got to be, you know, got to be able to process things in a quick manner. And you really are. You have to be an excellent communicator. You have to be an excellent leader.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And for me, I just don't see those areas with him right now. I think he's someone who's probably going to get drafted earlier than the third round. Again, I'm not really comfortable taking him before the third round, but I see him going in the second. I think a team will bet on his athletic traits and hope they can kind of fill the rest out. A guy that we've seen a lot in mock drafts, but we haven't really seen the Titans connected to visit-wise,
Starting point is 00:16:43 and maybe you can tell us differently, Rashawn Evans out of Alabama, a guy that makes sense if all the edge rushers are gone. There's still somewhat of a need at linebacker there. What do you think of his game, and would he fit this defense? Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen them connected to him in any way but obviously playing the linebacker position it's one thing so naturally he's going to be someone who's connected to the man with good reason when i put the tape on with him what i see is you know a bit of a do-it-all
Starting point is 00:17:15 prospect you know mainly at alabama played the sam position was kind of you know spent the early downs chasing the ball carrier would try to get after the quarterback on third and obvious passing situations, they put him in an additional rush to quarterback. I see some good speed and power to his game on tape. You know, has that ability to play on third down. You don't have to take him off the field, which teams love nowadays, obviously. Those linebackers that can play all three downs.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He is someone who I'm comfortable playing in coverage. I think he has the ability to cover running backs and tight ends. I don't think he's helped himself that much throughout the process. You know, we got wind that teams were a little disappointed that he didn't run the 40 at either the combine or at his pro day. I think they had some questions about his long speed, and he didn't answer them. I know a few teams were disappointed.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Another thing that would concern me with him is I think there's going to be a bit of a transition period with him. That rule that Alabama asked him to take is not really something that translates to the next level where he was so focused on just taking the ball carrier on early downs and then rushing later on. It's not something you're going to be
Starting point is 00:18:19 really doing at the next level. I think as long as teams are patient with him I think it can absolutely work out and he can put it all together. But I do think he's going to have to be brought along a little bit slower than most of the linebackers that we're seeing locked in the first or second round. All right, Justin, before we let you go, is there anybody else that you have seen the Titans tied to that we haven't
Starting point is 00:18:41 talked about that you think makes for, you know, an interesting pick, whether it be, you know, an interesting pick, whether it be, you know, on the first day or later in the draft. Uh, yeah, two guys I'll mention, and both would be,
Starting point is 00:18:53 I think day two or even day three guys is edge rusher, Dorrance Armstrong from campus. This is a guy who's a highly, highly athletic editor. Very, uh, very obvious why the Titans are doing their homework on him. You know, the measurables are just off the charts. Really, really
Starting point is 00:19:06 long athlete. Got those long arms you want out of an edge rusher. He's a little bit raw, but the quickness and the short area burst are two things that are very evident on tape for me. Very, very edge defender. When I tape on, he's also good against the run. He's someone
Starting point is 00:19:22 who I thought was actually very good against the run. Surprised me in I thought was actually very good against the run. Surprised me in that area. Plays the game with a good motor. I think sometimes he's still kind of figuring it all out and putting it together. I think he's got all the tools, but he's still figuring that out. I kind of see him overthinking and over-pursuing at times. Based on the athletic profile, there's a ton of upside here.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Another guy who I know they've spent some time with who I actually really like, we talked about them doing their homework on corners, where I don't think it makes sense to send their first-round pick on the corner. I would like to see them use maybe a third or fourth-round pick. And one guy who makes a lot of sense is D.J. Reid. This is a guy who's got 28 career pass breakups, seven interceptions throughout his career at Kansas State. Very, very good player.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I think he's an ideal nickel corner, a little bit undersized guy. Comes from the Juco ranks, but he's someone, if you haven't had a chance to watch the tape, I highly suggest that you find some time for him. Very, very good football player. I think he's someone who's going to outperform his draft position. If the Titans can get this guy in round three or even four, I think he's someone who's really going to
Starting point is 00:20:31 pay them back for making that investment. Terry, you don't want to ask about John Kelly? We know how good John Kelly's going to be. I don't need Justin to tell me. Yeah, that's someone, man, I love him. Whether you ask me or not, I'm going to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I love him. He's someone, I interviewed him about three weeks, I think it was about three weeks ago, and I had a blast with him, man. I was actually ready for the combine. I spoke to him, and we were talking about the 40-yard dash and how he was going to perform. He's someone who I think plays a lot faster than he tested, and he knew that was going to be the case.
Starting point is 00:21:10 One thing he said to me, and I absolutely love this quote, the fun tidbit I'll give you guys, how much fun this guy is. He said to me right before he ran the 40-yard dash, he said, I wish they could put a linebacker behind me. I guarantee you I'd run a faster time if I had one of those guys chasing me down. And I loved it, man. I had such a good time with a really good kid. In my opinion, the meanest running back in this class, man.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm not betting against that guy. He's a bowling ball, man. I asked him why is it so hard to bring him down, and he said simply because I want it more than you do. Absolutely. I mean, he's one of the most fun guys to watch on tape. The dude just runs angry. He put the entire Tennessee offense on his back at times.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You know, Butch Jones was just telegraphing runs up the middle, and he would just throw stiff arms. So, yeah, I mean, he's coming into the NFL with the right mindset, 5'9", just barely 205 pounds. But, yeah, like you said, I'm not betting against that guy for sure. Yeah, no, and one thing, you know, I'm very lucky to be in a position where I actually get to interview a lot of these kids and spend time with them. And, you know, obviously try not to make too many judgments
Starting point is 00:22:22 in one half-an-hour conversation. But I'm lucky to kind of get that feel for a guy. And I'm telling you, man, I really, really enjoyed my time with him. He's someone with a great personality, passionate, loves the game. And what you see is what you get. He's tough as nails. All right. Well, Justin, we really appreciate you taking the time over the last couple of days to talk draft with us.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Again, you can follow Justin on Twitter at JustinM underscore NFL, and you can follow his work on the DraftWire at TheDraftWire. Justin, maybe we can catch up after the draft. We have this class and kind of get your breakdown of what went right and what went wrong for the Titans and your idea on the prospects that they've got coming in. Absolutely. Yeah, I'll be around. You guys know where to find me. Sounds great. All right, and again, we appreciate you coming on with us. All right, so that'll do it for this episode of Locked on Titans. We really appreciate you listening.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Again, you can subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your podcasts, iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher. You can also follow us on Twitter. I'm at jmorrismcm, tieredfb, podcast account at LockedOnTitans, and again, follow Justin at justinm underscore nfldraft. So for Terry and Justin, this is Jimmy saying thanks for listening to LockedOnTitans, and we will talk to you next week.

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