Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Malik Willis DEEP DIVE: Malik's QB Trainer, Malik's Auburn Years & Titans Present and Future

Episode Date: May 19, 2022

The Tennessee Titans made a big splash in the 2022 NFL Draft when they selected Malik Willis! The athletic, playmaking quarterback out of Liberty. Willis hasn't had the chance to do a ton so far, but he has been impressive early on. Titans fans have heard a ton about Willis to this point, but what has led him here? How did he work to get better and what lessons did he learn along the way? Tyler is going to the source to answer those exact questions!First, Tyler brings on Malik Willis' QB Trainer Sean McEvoy. Sean talks about what Malik Willis is like as a person, how his traits measure up to his peers and what his potential is for the Tennessee Titans! Next, Zac Blackerby of Locked On Auburn joins the show to discuss Malik's two years on campus. What went wrong and why it was best for both parties? Zac explains! Finally, Tyler gives his own outlook on what the Titans should do with Malik in his rookie season and in the future!Follow Tyler on Twitter @TicTacTitansFollow the show on Facebook @LockedOnTitansPodSubscribe to the Locked On Titans YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnTitansSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Locked on Titans podcast. I am your host, Tyler Rowland. Titans fans, it is a Thursday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast. And on today's show, it is time for our Malik Willis deep dive. First, I'm going to bring on Sean McAvoy from Quarterback Takeover, who is Malik Willis' personal quarterback trainer, to talk about his progression so far and what he thinks Malik Willis could be for the Tennessee Titans.

Then we'll bring on Zach Blackerby, host of Locked On Auburn, to talk about the two years that Malik Willis spent at Auburn and how it helped his development. And then finally, I'll give you guys my view on what Malik Willis can do to help the Titans in 2022 and then what the Titans hope Malik Willis can do to help the Titans in 2022, and then what the Titans hope Malik Willis can be in 2023. A Malik Willis deep dive on a Thursday edition of the Locked On Titans podcast. Let's get it!

You are Locked On Titans, your daily Tennessee Titans podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Titans fans, it is a Thursday edition of the Locked on Titans podcast. It is time for our Malik Willis deep dive. So excited to dive into these conversations, talk about Malik Willis' role with the Titans this year and next year. A lot to get into. Before we do, I got to thank you guys for making the Locked on Titans podcast

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over there. Smash that notification bell so you know when all the content goes live. Throw a thumbs up on the video if you're watching on YouTube right now. But with that being said, I'm going to bring on Malik Willis' quarterback trainer, Sean McAvoy, again from Quarterback Takeover. Very excited to get into this conversation with you guys. He talks about who Malik was when he first met him nearly six years ago, talks about Malik Willis' progression, what he's been working on,

and talks about what kind of player the Tennessee Titans could have on their hands for the future. So very excited to dive into this interview with Sean McAvoy from quarterback takeover, Malik Willis' quarterback trainer. We are here, of course, to talk some Malik Willis and couldn't find anybody better to come on and talk about where he is right now as a player and where he hopefully will go for the Titans than his quarterback trainer Sean McAvoy is joining us right now Sean thank you so much for coming on know you do work with quarterback takeover and obviously you've had a big part in Malik's development here in the pre-draft process

and everything so So thank you so much for coming on. I wanted to start by asking you essentially, you know, I know you're a quarterback trainer and that sounds simple, but you know, for people listening, what kind of work do you actually do with Malik Willis? Yeah, absolutely. First of all, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be here with you, Tyler. um yeah so basically you're thinking about all the on the field quarterback development that you can so everything from the footwork and the throw mechanics um preparing the players to have success on the field and all that entails and i i mentioned the on the field first because i think that's 90 of what we focus on and the reason there is because he has coaxes whether it be at his high school or his colleagues or in the NFL,

that are going to address a lot of the scheme, the X's and O's, how they want them to read certain progressing, certain concepts. And we don't want to step on anybody's toes there. You know, we'll make sure we're a resource there and help, especially the draft prep process of preparing him for different looks. He's going to see at the NFL level, things of that nature. But it's really the mechanics, the footwork, the throwing motion is where our focus is. So Malik's a guy that I met in high school and started working with his junior year of high school. So now it's been maybe a six-year process all the way through colleagues and through draft prep and, and now with the Titans. So it's been fun.

That's awesome. And it has to be rewarding for you as a coach to work with a kid and see him kind of grow and continue to progress along. And you're probably the best person to ask this next question because we could talk ball and the fundamentals and mechanics all day. But as someone who you said has been working with him and seeing him since a junior, what kind of guy is Malik Willis? Who is he as a person since you've been working with him? Yeah, that's my, probably the, his best trait, like my favorite part of him. It's cool because you guys have already now gotten a little taste of it. Well,

he finally got a chance to get in front of the media and do his first press conference. And he's just such a special kid. All through the draft prep process, I've had people ask me that question and i always hold back because i'm like i kind of want people to get to experience it for themselves the first time right right um who you see is who he is like the humility that he always comes across with the way that he's driven by his faith and and and puts god first and and focuses on things outside of just the game of football,

realizes there's more important things in the world and wants to kind of use his platform to do and kind of bring all those pieces together and maybe actually, you know, make an impact more than just on the playing field. I mean, that's what's important to him. It's the way he was raised by his parents and his grandparents. But he's the kind of guy that people gravitate to. And the biggest maybe moment that I realized this was Quincy Avery, who's my partner with Quarterback Takeover. We do a lot of these college quarterback camps. You know, spring break will come along,

and we'll take 20 of the best college quarterbacks in the country and go out to L.A. or go down to Miami and do like a quarterback, you know, camp, retreat, and a lot of work over that time. Right. Right. And so you got Malik there and, you know, Justin Fields is there and Trey Lance is there and Sean Clifford is there.

And, you know, some of the top quarterback, Emory Jones and Dwayne Haskins, you know, like a couple of years back before he got to the NFL and all those guys are together and Malik's the guy that everyone wants to be around, right? Like he's a leader even among leaders like that, right? So pretty special to see. And I think that's what you guys are going to find here. Uh, as you start seeing a move through, through, uh, the off season and getting into the season here, you're going to see his teammates, you know, want to be around him as well. Yeah. You get a little piece of that already from rookie minicamp. He said, pray like it's up to God work. Like it's up to you. I mean,

little quotes like that. I mean, it's great to hear a guy who's that down to earth and wants to work, but as great of a guy as he is, obviously he's going to get paid for his football talents. And you've seen a lot of that as well what what kind of player are the titans getting in malik willis and where do you think i guess he could go as he progresses and obviously develops with more years in the league and and that's the key right here right because now there's an ability that he has just an athletic ability and arm strength you know a powerful you know just everything he does as an athlete and as a quarterback, the traits are off the charts. Now he needs to put it all together and continue to develop

and fill some of the holes that have been in his game and were in his game in the last couple of years in college. And so certainly not a finished product, but man, like when you have the traits he has and the work ethic he has combined with, you know, that humility and willingness to do whatever it takes. That's usually when it comes together and it turns into a special player. Now, I don't like to compare Malik to other colleagues, quarterbacks or other guys in this draft class or guys that because I don't know them as well. But I'm very happy comparing them to guys we work with. them as well. But I'm very happy comparing them to guys we work with. So I've seen Deshaun Watson at similar moments throughout his development from high school into college, into the draft

and forward. Guys like Justin Fields and Trey Lance, I've seen, and you kind of now can benchmark where a guy is at certain points and how that then leads to their ability, you know, in the next one year, two year, three years develop Malik's cut from the same cloth as those guys. Um, and quite honestly, probably has higher traits than all three of those guys. So not saying one's better than another, where, but the idea that those guys are similar and we've seen already what the Sean's been able to do. And I think we're getting a taste of what Justin's going to be able to do. And we're going to see Trey this year. And you know, I think that's who Malik is and what I would project him to be going for. And I think you point out something that's so important and that gets Titans fans so excited.

You talk about a guy like Deshaun Watson, who obviously you've worked with, but also Pat O'Hara and Tim Kelly, who are on the Titans offensive coaching staff now have worked with Deshaun Watson. We're central to his development. So having that a trio of guys, including you and the excellent work that you're doing with Malik on all the fundamentals and everything, it has to get Titans fans. Super excited, Sean. Thank you so much for coming on. I have to say how awesome it is that you got the field in the background. I know.

I'm coming right from a session. So like you got the sweat marks on the hat and everything right now. Yeah. Well, love the authenticity there. And I know the people who listen to my show really love ball and the ins and outs of it as well. What an excellent interview. Thank you so much again for coming on. If you want, tell the people where they can monitor your work or where they can find what

you're offering out there to any quarterback prospect who's interested. Yeah, I appreciate it. It's quarterback takeovers. Myself and Quincy Avery and our staff doing a lot of stuff in Atlanta and then in Tennessee and Charlotte and kind of around the Southeast. But QB Coach McAvoy is where the easiest way to find me on all the social media stuff. Awesome. Well, thank you so much again. I do appreciate it. Hopefully we'll be able to have you on again sometime. Thanks for stopping by the Locked on Titans podcast.

I appreciate it, Tyler. Thanks, brother. All right, guys. I hope you enjoyed that interview with Sean McAvoy from QB Takeover. Some excellent insight in there. Love some of the stories he told about Malik where he sees his potential. Excellent stuff there, and I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed recording it. But with that being said, we have another interview to get some background on Malik Willis.

We're going to talk to Zach Blackerby from the Locked On Auburn podcast. Of course, Malik Willis spent two years at Auburn before he decided to transfer out. So we'll talk about what happened at Auburn, what caused Malik Willis to transfer away, and why that stop at Auburn, although it wasn't perfect, was a benefit to Malik Willis and who he is as a football player today. So we'll dive into that. Before we do, I want to tell you guys about Bilt Bars,

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And Malik Willis spent some time in Auburn. And to kind of recap that time, we are going to bring on the best Auburn voice that you can find. And one of my favorite members of the Locked On Podcast Network, Zach Blackerby. Zach, how are you doing? I'm good. But you know, Sean McAvoy, Malik Willis' quarterback coach, he's been listening to Locked On

shows for a long time. Very dedicated Locked On Auburn listener. I'm sure he'll be a very dedicated Locked On Titans listener moving forward. Well, actually you mentioned that we cut off the interview and now I get to brag about it on the show as it goes because you guys didn't get to hear it, but at the end, Sean was

talking about how he's been listening to the Locked On Titans podcast for a few weeks, getting prepped, getting ready to go after they drafted Malik. So you're 100% right about that. I can corroborate your story, Locked On Titans and Locked On Auburn, the favorite podcast of Malik Willis' quarterback trainer. So I'll go out on a limb and say that. But Zach, glad to have you on. Obviously, all you Auburn fans, anybody in the SEC,

go check out Locked on Auburn, Locked on Tigers, great stuff. But I'm here to ask you about Malik. And if you could, just kind of give us a summation of what his time at Auburn was like coming in, what the expectations were, and why he ended up going to Liberty. Well, the expectations were low, right? I mean, this was a guy that was committed to Virginia Tech and not a whole lot of D1 schools wanted him to play quarterback.

They saw him as a defensive back or some kind of versatile defensive player. And Auburn's head coach at the time, Gus Malzahn, was like, you know what, I think you can be a quarterback. And obviously, if you go back and look at his high school tape as a quarterback, it was something special. And so, you know, Auburn was the school to kind of roll the dice on him. And after that, over the course of his senior year, more and more folks tried to pry him away from Auburn.

It didn't really happen. But he came in behind Jarrett Stidham at the time, who just recently kind of made the news for uh being traded but right he um you know so he was never expected to start right but a lot of conversations were like man you know he he's looking good you know with the twos going up against the ones and scrimmages and practices and showed a lot of upside and then the following season after Jarrett Sinem was done, it was this quarterback battle between Bo Nix and Joey Gatewood. And, you know, Malik was like,

okay, you know, I don't have a whole lot of a future here. And so he left, but it's interesting. You know, you, you see him talk to the media at Liberty and he's asked about Auburn and he, he owns it. He owns the fact that, okay, he wasn't the same guy. So I think him kind of losing this, you know, the, the quarterback battles at Auburn allowed him to take the steps that he did at Liberty Tyler, because he was aware that he wasn't taking football as seriously as he was supposed to. He wasn't watching tape. wasn't taking football as seriously as he was supposed to. He wasn't watching tape.

He wasn't studying the playbook. He's coming from, you know, the high school ranks where he, his athleticism was enough. He didn't have to prepare. And then obviously when you get to the sec and then even more so in the NFL preparation is more and more important. So I think,

I think kind of him not being a starter at Auburn and being phased out and kind of processed. I think it helped him at Liberty. Like you said, he talks about that a lot. Having that experience in the SEC, seeing how they do it in big-time college football, it's that lightbulb moment for him. During his time at Auburn, I know that maybe he wasn't doing the study that he needed to and some of those other things, but as just a guy, what were I know that obviously maybe he wasn't doing the study that he needed to and some of those other things but as just a guy what were kind of the the words on the street about Malik Willis during his time there in Auburn well everybody wanted to see more of them everybody

was clamoring you know can you put packages in for Malik Willis you know you see that a lot with the backup dual threat quarterbacks and you, there were rumors that it was practiced and they had it installed, but they just never really ran it and went to him in a game. And so, you know, there was a big chunk of the Auburn fan base that was like, man, let's, you know, let's get behind Malik Willis. Malik Willis or Buss, it can't be worse than what we're seeing.

And, you know, but as far as him as the player, you know, you didn't really hear a whole lot about him and so Auburn is very closed off like they're a very closed off athletics department and so if they don't really want that getting out they're not going to um but you know talking to folks after he left I mean it seemed like he was well liked by his teammates it's just he was the backup quarterback right right that was the role that he was in at by his teammates. It's just, he was the backup quarterback. Right, right. That was the role that he was in at that time.

Well, I guess you talked about how some fans wanted to go all in on Malik and at least give him a shot, give him some packages. You know, some people just wanted to see what they would get. Do you think that ultimately Auburn, I say Auburn made the right decision, but they kind of put him in a position

where he had to leave to have an opportunity to do what he did. It was obviously the right move for Malik to make that jump to Liberty to give himself a chance to be drafted. Do you think that Auburn handled the situation correctly, or do you agree with that portion of the fan base that maybe if you had given Malik some shots, and obviously he had to hold his own and progress

in ways that we talked about, but do you think if they would have given him a shot and maybe helped a little bit more in that development, that Auburn would have been in a better place with Malik Willis the last few years than they would have been otherwise? Tyler, that's a fascinating question. And that's a question that Auburn fans talk about all the time. I think the coaching staff at the time made the right decision. You know, that 2019 season was a fun one. Bo Nix, a freshman Bo Nix, which ultimately won the job and forced Malik to transfer.

You know, we beat Alabama that year. And anytime you beat Alabama in anything, it's fantastic. So, you know, that was something that was historic. That was one of the most entertaining football games I've ever seen. And seen and so like i don't think you get that if that were the case um but you know it's interesting the ripple effect of all of this tyler is anytime now anytime a backup dual threat quarterback leaves it's oh we just let another malik willis i just snapped with a with a kid named D. Davis that entered the portal during spring,

and it's just like, oh, another Malik Willis is gone. It's like, no, I think this was an exception to the rule. Yeah, well, that's understandable. As a guy who is, as most of my audience knows now, an Ohio State Buckeye, every quarterback, Quinn McEwen, or however you say his name, give me a break on the recruits and college guys. I do my best.

But the mullet kid, you know, that's what we all called him in my group of friends. They let him walk, and he leaves via the transfer portal, and everybody's saying, oh, is it another Joe Burrow? Are we letting another Joe Burrow walk? So I know how that goes. I know how those what ifs can go. So sorry to put you in that position. But thank you so much

for coming on, Zach, talking about your experience with Malik Willis. Just remind the folks who are listening where they can find your content. Yeah, absolutely. Locked on Auburn, wherever you get your podcasts or, you know, of course one of the college parts of this awesome

Locked On Podcast Network that you guys know and love because of Tyler. And one last thing to leave, Roger McCreary looks really good, really clean in that 21. Yeah, yeah. He does look good. He does look clean. And not only in the 21, but his movements

out on the field. He's definitely a fluid guy. And I expect him out of the Titans entire rookie class. I think McCreary could be one of the guys who contributes the most. So we'll definitely have you on more to talk about that when all the McCreary buzz starts happening in training camp. Sounds good, buddy. Excellent.

All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Zach. If any of you guys are Auburn fans or just SEC fans in general, you've got to check out Locked on Auburn. Zach does a great job with the show and another proud member of the Locked on Empire. But with those two conversations in the books, it's time to get into my thoughts about what Malik Willis can be in 2022 and what his job should be in 2022. And then what the Titans should be expecting in 2023. Before we get into that, do want to tell you guys about BetOnline.net.

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You watch it on YouTube. I would appreciate the support. But with all that being said, excellent interview with Sean McAvoy. Excellent interview with Zach Blackerby. Hope you guys did enjoy those. And I also hope that you enjoyed your water today. Drink water.

Ladies and gentlemen, your daily reminder from me, your boy, the hydration master, Tyler Rowland. But moving forward. So we got to talk about Malik Willis in 2022. Ladies and gentlemen, your daily reminder from me, your boy, the hydration master, Tyler Rowland. But moving forward, so we got to talk about Malik Willis in 2022, and we're seeing nonsense online already about, you know, false rumors from BS sources about the team wants Malik Willis to start the players.

It's all nonsense. Ryan Tannehill is the starter in 2022, and as a matter of fact, Jim Wyatt, who obviously the staff beat reporter for the Titans who's in the building, said in a mailbag recently something that I was concerned about a few episodes ago. That the Titans

would have Logan Woodside as the backup quarterback this year. And that Malik Willis would be inactive most days. What aik Willis would be inactive most days. What a crucial mistake that would be. Logan Woodside doesn't deserve to be in the NFL. He wasn't any good in the crappy professional football league in the AAF. He's the worst backup quarterback in the NFL

and I get the Titans decided to keep Logan Woodside around for the last few years because he was dirt cheap. They said if Tannehill gets hurt at all, we're screwed. We're not paying any money. We'll have the worst backup quarterback in the league if it means we can save money. Okay. But now you have a super cheap quarterback

that's going to be on your roster anyways and you're still going to give the backup quarterback spot to a crappy AAF quarterback who has no right whatsoever to be in the NFL? Just asinine. If Ryan Tannehill were to get hurt, not even a major injury, two weeks, heck two quarters,

who do you think gives the Titans a better chance to win a football game? Malik Willis or Logan Woodside? What are we doing here? So in my opinion, in 2022, Malik Willis should be learning the offense. Getting reps in practice.

Not with the practice squad, guys. With the actual players on the team. How about that? How about that's best for the development of the young quarterback? So learn the offense, work on your technique, work on your footwork, all the intricacies of playing quarterback. Watch how Ryan Tannehill prepares the offense.

Watch the way he speaks to wide receivers. Watch the way he watches film. Watch the way he game plans. Watch the way he talks with the coaches. Follow all that. But there's no reason, and this is why I'm so frustrated if this turns out to be true and that Logan Woodside is the other active quarterback on game days.

Because Malik Willis should absolutely have a package in the playbook with read option plays, with wildcat plays, with play action jet sweeps. And imagine a jet sweep read option where you have Traylon Burks coming across the formation on a fake and then a read option with Derrick Henry. How is that not something that will be utilized? I'm not saying all the

time, but goal line, red zone, third down, short yardage. Why would you not have him active to do that? And if Tannehill does for some reason gets hurt or there's a blowout, good or bad for the Titans, then put Malik in! Not Logan Woodside! I swear on my life, by the time that Logan Woodside is off this roster, he is going to have thrown zero pertinent passes and done absolutely zero other than take kneel downs to show that he deserves to be in the league. It will be a mystery forever how this dude stayed on the roster for so long with literally zero evidence that he deserves to be

an NFL backup. And now there's a chance that you could play him over Malik? Nonsense. Just nonsense. I refuse to believe it. I refuse to believe it. Refuse. That's 2022, though. 2023 is what matters most. And to me, it's obvious in 2023, Malik needs to be the starter. It's going to save the Titans $18 million

to get off of Tannehill. They can use that $18 million to upgrade the offensive line, which they're desperately going to need based on what we've seen this year. Think. They cut Bud Dupree, that's $11 million. Cut Tannehill, that's $18 million.

Put that together, that's $29 million. Taylor LeJuan, potentially, could be out of the door with no dead cap on his money. That'd save the Titans around $12 million. I mean, we're talking about $50 million in cap space for the Titans to go put a better roster around Malik Willis than they could put around Ryan Tannehill. Which is the point all along, is that if you get cheaper at quarterback

for a similar skill level, then you can make the rest of the roster around them that much better. So that has to be the plan. You upgrade O-line, you add another top tier wide receiver, either in the draft or in free agency. You go with an even more play action heavy offense. You add in elements of quarterback run like they've done in Philly and Baltimore. You add in more RPO game. You add in more quick throws, quick tunnels, quick bubble screens to Traylon Burks, which is what he does

well anyways. Stuff that they did in LA for Robert Woods. And you go from there. So that's kind of my initial thoughts on what we should see in 2022. And then in 2023, how it plays out, that remains to be seen. So that's kind of my initial thoughts on what we should see in 2022. And then in 2023, how it plays out, that remains to be seen. But that's going to do it for me today, folks. The Malik Willis deep dive episode.

I hope you guys did enjoy. Make sure to subscribe on whatever platform you do stream. Definitely do appreciate it. Monday through Friday, Tennessee Titans comment content coming your way all year long. But that's going to do it for me today, though, folks. As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowland, and this was Locked on Titans.