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Welcome to the Locked On Titans Podcast. I'm your host, Tyler Rowland. Titans fans, it is a Mock Draft Monday.
Hope you guys all had a fun and safe weekend. We are going to kick off the week of content as we typically do
with a nice Mock Draft Monday presented by the Draft Network. We have the most recent Mock Draft Monday release here
from Trevor Sykema, so we are going to break down what he projects for the Titans.
And of course, we are going to follow that up as we typically do on a Monday
with a Mock Draft Roundup.
Go around the draft community, around the football sphere,
and see what some other pundits have projected for the Titans in the first round
and maybe a little deeper.
And then, by popular popular demand you guys have
been asking me on Twitter at Tic Tac Titans to do my own mock draft and see how the board shakes out
for me and what direction I might go if I were John Robinson and calling the shots for the Titans. So
like potato chips with mock drafts you can't just have one. So I did a couple of different mock drafts for you guys
so we could take a look at a couple of different ways
that the board could shake out
and what options the Titans may have
sitting at 29 in the first round.
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A lot to jump into on this Mock Draft Monday.
Let's get it. This week's Mock Draft Monday comes from Trevor Sikama of the Draft Network. And in this
scenario, he does have the Titans losing Derrick Henry in free agency due to his salary demands.
If that were to be the case, if the Titans did lose out on Derrick Henry
and they didn't choose to franchise tag him,
I would assume that would be because they spent that money
keeping Ryan Tannehill around and also re-signing Jack Conklin.
You would have to think that that would happen
and that's the way that money would be utilized.
I guess there is the outside chance that the Titans could use that money
on outside free agents like a Jadavion Clowney and Ryan Tannehill, but at this moment
in time, if you're looking at losing Derrick Henry, it would have to be because the Titans
choose to bring back a different free agent Titan like Conklin or Logan Ryan, so I guess that would
make this selection for the Titans a little bit more palatable and make a lot of sense.
Sycamore has the Titans going with Jonathan Taylor, the running back out of Wisconsin
with the 29th pick in the first round.
Now, once again, if Derrick Henry is let go and the Titans let Derrick Henry walk in free
agency, then a running back would be a must.
But here is the issue with that.
If you're letting Derrick Henry go you're
basically acknowledging that running back is not that valuable of a position and that you could
find a cheaper option to then turn around and use your first round pick and as valuable of a pick as
that is as valuable of an asset as it is to turn around and use your first round pick on a running
back would almost spit in the face of you letting
Derrick Henry go. I know that the salary would be a different amount and the Titans would save a lot
of money there by going with a rookie running back, but at that moment in time, if you're willing to
let Derrick Henry walk, well, when you take a running back in the first round, you can only
hope that they would turn out to be like a Derrick Henry. So if you know that you're going to get a
running back like Derrick Henry and you would let that player walk because of his value anyway,
taking a running back in the first round doesn't really make much sense
at that moment in time either.
But it would be understandable that they would want to replace
the running back position with a talented player like Taylor,
who can run in between the tackles, can run outside his great explosion.
He's a nice size, 5 10 226 pounds did run that 4.39
40 yard dash at the NFL combine that really impressed scouts and he is one of the top
running backs on the board with J.K. Dobbins from Ohio State and DeAndre Swift from Georgia
he has a little bit more versatility than those Swift is great in the passing game but Taylor is
a better pure runner so getting a pure
runner like that but similar if you're going away from Derrick Henry it's because you would want
someone super versatile in the backfield and while Taylor adds more versatility than Henry
in the passing game he's not quite the guy that DeAndre Swift is so I would much rather go the
community approach than you know designing an offense around someone like Taylor again.
But Sycamore did give us a three-round mock draft here for the Titans.
So looking at some other picks that he had for the team.
In the second round with the 61st overall pick, he had the Titans going with Curtis Weaver, edge rusher out of Boise State.
I do like this pick for the Titans at this value.
Edge rusher is a hot
commodity, and in this draft, there are some different kinds of edge rushers you could choose
from. You have your Marlon Davidson, your Gross Matos, your guys who are big, physical, who maybe
slide inside, and then you have your guys outside like Curtis Weaver, like Calevon Chasen. Weaver
is a guy who doesn't have insane bend and insane
athleticism. He could have a little bit more twitch, and I know that's what I'm looking for,
but that's what I'm talking about a first round pick. If you're getting a guy like Weaver in the
second round here, well now you're getting great value, and Weaver has a lot of linear speed. He
can get up the field quickly. He doesn't have a lot of pass rush moves to go to right now,
but he has some that you can see develop, so I like Weaver. He doesn't have a lot of pass rush moves to go to right now, but he has some
that you can see develop. So I like Weaver. He could quickly turn into a very good role player.
Will he be a dominant edge rusher across from Harold Landry? I don't know, but in the second
round at that value, someone like Weaver, who was very productive in his career, you would really
like the opportunity to take him with the 61st overall pick. And then the third and
final pick that Sycamore has for the Titans is the most questionable. Jake Fromm out of Georgia.
Fromm doesn't have a lot of gifted traits. He can't throw the ball very well outside of the
hashes, very limited with his arm. And I like the Titans looking for a backup quarterback in this
draft, but you wouldn't want to burn a top three pick when the top three rounds are where you're expected to get starters, and we know Fromm
is not going to be a high-level starter at any point in time. So I wouldn't like the outcome
of a draft where the Titans go running back edge quarterback, but if they lost out on Henry,
that could be a possibility. If we are taking a look at some wild scenarios like losing Derrick
Henry, if the Titans were to lose out completely
on Derrick Henry, not tag him, not re-sign him in any way, that would be a pretty wild circumstance
in my opinion. Might as well take a look at all of the possible outcomes for the Titans when it
comes to the draft, even the most wild of them all. So we are going to do that next and kick off our mock draft roundup segment with a
supremely insane look at a possibility that the Titans have in the upcoming 2020 draft.
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We look forward to hearing from you. it is mock draft roundup time let's continue this mock draft monday by going around the football sphere go around the draft community take a look at some other pundits from some other outlets, and just see what they seem to project for the Tennessee Titans in the first round and beyond with
some of these.
So we are going to dive right in with the wildest mock draft I have seen for the Titans
since we started doing Mock Draft Monday.
This is the craziest outcome I have seen so far. And it also comes
from the draft network. We got Carter Donick from the draft network and he has the Titans
with the 29th overall pick in the first round, packaging that with the 61st overall pick in the draft, the Titans' second round pick, a first and third rounder from 2021,
and moving up 22 spots to the 7th overall pick with the Carolina Panthers
and selecting Justin Herbert, quarterback out of Oregon.
This is insane.
Now, of course, Carter Donick is not here to defend himself. So, what I want to do at
the minimum is at least read to you guys his reasoning of why he has the Titans doing this.
So, let's go ahead and take a look. Quote, after nearly winning the AFC a season ago,
Tennessee is a contending team with very few holes. But that doesn't mean that the Titans
should be contemptuous with their current status. Much like the Kansas City Chiefs when they had Alex Smith as their starting
quarterback, the Titans have a decent signal caller capable of leading a team to the playoffs.
What they don't have is the guy to take them over the edge, which Herbert eventually could be.
Landing in Nashville would be perfect for the former Oregon quarterback as he could refine
his skills for a season or two while Ryan Tannehill operates under the franchise tag or a bridge deal. This is an
uber aggressive move that will take a lot of picks, but if any team has a strong enough roster that
could withstand parting with this many assets, it's the Titans. End quote. That is his blurb.
Okay, so I want to go through a couple of things here.
First things first, I generally agree with Carter's point here.
Ryan Tannehill is not the guy. Ryan Tannehill is a great game manager.
He has good ability.
He has mobility.
He has a strong arm, but he's never going to be an elite player like Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Pat Mahomes.
It's very difficult to find a quarterback like that.
So if you don't have that guy, I agree that you should always be aggressively pursuing
finding that elite quarterback that can be transcendent for your franchise.
I understand that philosophy.
But the issue that I have here is
I don't believe Justin Herbert is that guy. I don't want another quarter, excuse me for having
a little bit of PTSD here, but I don't want another Oregon quarterback who comes in who
has questions about his fire and his competitiveness. I don't want to have a Justin
Herbert who had issues with handling the locker room, handling his huddle.
Those are the knocks on Herbert because he has all the athleticism. He has a big time arm. So
he has those things. It's kind of the mental aspects of the game, that it factor of the game.
And there have been conflicting reports throughout the combine and throughout the senior bowl of how
he handled his teammates. And maybe he does have that it factor.
But to me, if the Titans are going to make a move up the board,
22 spots, mortgage their future, give up, you know, a third and a first in 2021,
a first and a second in 2020, you're not doing that for Justin Herbert.
So I understand the idea of going up, getting a top-tier quarterback,
kind of putting all your chips in like the Chiefs did, like the Texans did,
and seeing if you can get the guy who you can mold under Ryan Tannehill
if they're able to franchise tag him or bring him back for, like Carter says here, a bridge deal.
I understand the philosophy.
I don't think the philosophy is insane, but I think when
you put in the literal pieces, well, Justin Herbert is not worth making that kind of move.
And another thing that I actually disagree with here, he says this is an uber aggressive move
that will take a lot of picks, but if any team has a strong enough roster that can withstand
parting with this many assets, it's the Titans Titans the Titans do have a good roster they do
have a good foundation but in their situation currently with all the holes that they have I
don't think that they could withstand parting with that many assets so that's kind of my final point
about what Carter had to say in this mock draft he does go on to mock the next two rounds as well
of course the Titans gave up their second round pick, the 61st overall
pick in this mock trade with the Panthers. So with the third round pick for the Titans,
he has the Titans selecting Jabari Zuniga, the edge rusher from Florida. A lot of people consider
Zuniga a tweener here. He's kind of a defensive end inside guy, five technique and a three, four
mixed with an edge rusher and
I've been pretty adamant throughout the draft process that those kind of tweeners are not what
the Titans need right now the Titans need an outside edge pass rusher who can get around the
corner and bend and compliment Harold Landry they don't need a guy like Gross Matos who can be
inside out they don't need a guy like Zuniga they don't need a guy like Gross Matos who can be inside out. They don't need a guy like Zuniga.
They don't need a guy like Marlon Davidson who can play that five technique
and slide down inside and rush in sub packages.
The Titans have Jeffrey Simmons for that.
That's why they spent that first round pick.
They have Jarrell Casey for that,
and I understand you want to replenish the pipeline of interior pass rushers,
but right now with the edge being such a need,
I don't think that you
spend a top three pick on a guy who most likely will have to have his most productive snaps
on the interior. You need someone on the edge. That's what the Titans need right now. So
relatively speaking, I just really hate that mock draft, and it's the most wild one that I've seen
so far for the Titans. Moving forward, Daniel Jeremiah, who is absolutely excellent for the NFL Network,
has the Titans take an offensive tackle, Josh Jones from Houston.
I would absolutely love that pick.
I would love if Josh Jones was available for the Titans.
But I think as we get closer and closer to the draft,
it is obvious that the Titans aren't even going to be able to sniff Josh Jones.
He's going to go top 15, at least top 22.
So I don't think the Titans will really have a shot at him.
They'll be looking at Austin Jackson, Lucas Niang, Trey Adams at tackle.
So I think the Titans will be looking at those picks.
And quite honestly, if I'm the Titans and the way things shook out, I'll talk more about
how my mock drafts went when I simulated them.
But the more and more I look at the draft board and the way things are probably going to shake out for the Titans, the more I
think it's likely that they need to go ahead and trade down, maybe look at that second tier of
offensive tackles, but we'll talk about that more in our third segment. So continuing to go forward,
once again, that was Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network having the Titans going with Houston
offensive tackle Josh Jones with the 29th pick.
Moving to our next mock draft, and it comes from Henry McKenna from the USA Today, and he has the
Titans selecting edge rusher out of LSU, Calavon Chason. This is another one like Josh Jones from
Daniel Jeremiah. I just don't see a scenario where Chason slips all the way down to 29 for the Titans.
If he does, well, then the Titans absolutely have to take a chance on Chason at that moment
in time being the second or at minimum third best edge rusher in the class.
If he were to fall all the way to 29, you got to take a chance on Chason.
Like he said, he gives you everything you need from a linebacker position.
It's something he pointed out in his own press conference at the combine.
He can rush the passer.
He can stop the run.
He can drop into coverage.
Kind of gives you everything that you need, but does it all at a high level.
And here's my thing.
Like someone like Zach Bond from Wisconsin, who does a lot of those similar things as
well, but Chason has much more upside and much more twitchiness as an actual edge rusher I profile
him as much more of an edge rusher with the ability to drop back in coverage where someone
like Bond I project as someone who's more of an off the ball linebacker who can help you out with
an edge rush here and there so that's kind of the difference I see in those two but if Chason were
available at 29 the Titans would have to scoop him up at that moment in time, but I don't see Chason being available there. I would imagine that he'll
go in the top 16, top 20 at minimum, but would be great value for the Titans. Our last mock draft
of our mock draft roundup comes from Kevin Hanson from Sports Illustrated, and he has the Titan selecting Christian Fulton, cornerback out of
LSU. I love Fulton, six foot over 200 pounds. He can play excellent man coverage. He's so good at
press. He's got great hips, great instincts. Yeah, he could do a little bit better in the run game.
He could tackle. He could tackle with a little more physicality. He doesn't really seem too
interested in that, but once you get to the NFL level, cornerbacks have no choice but to tackle. Coaches aren't really going to allow it,
especially a team like the Titans, who honestly are a very disciplined football team, and normally
a lot of injuries hurt the Titans last year in the secondary, but normally get really good tackling
out of their secondary. That's going to be hurt by most likely losing Logan Ryan but you
need talented cover corners in the NFL and that's something that the Titans are lacking a little bit
right now and Fulton would absolutely be one of those to the point where once again I just don't
see him dropping to the Titans and when I ran my mock draft simulators which we're going to get to
next I didn't have an opportunity to draft Jones, to draft Fulton,
or to draft Chason in any of the three that I did.
So that is our mock draft roundup for this week.
We gave our guy over at Bleacher Report, Christopher Knox, a break here.
Let's see if he can come back and rebound
and not give the Titans an off-the-ball linebacker.
So we'll give him a week reprieve
and check back in with our guy Knox next week.
But next for our immediate future, we are going to jump into my version of a mock draft.
I did a few mock draft simulators on the draft network.
So I will share those results with you guys next.
if you guys want to have some fun during this pre-draft process i encourage you to go to the draft networks site take a look at their mock draft simulator it's a lot of fun just to take
a look at and it does relatively give you an idea of what the Titans will be faced with when it's their pick, because the needs that the Titans
really have positionally, it's obvious that the top players at those positions, the Titans
aren't going to be able to get a crumb of one of them in the unlikelihood that the board
goes incredibly different than expected.
Like I was saying, I did three different mock drafts,
and I didn't really see an opportunity for the Titans to go after any of their biggest needs. I
had one out of the three turn out where I would honestly be happy with what the Titans had
available to them at that moment in time. So let's jump right into my mock drafts, which will
eventually turn into a Roland's rant here about
the Titans situation and where they sit in the draft so my first attempt went and all of the
best cornerbacks were gone Gladney was gone Fulton was gone Okuda was gone CJ Henderson was gone. All of the top five offensive tackles, Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills, Tristan
Wirfs, Makai Becton, Josh Jones, all were gone. You saw a lot of the top wide receivers go as well.
Chason was gone. I didn't really see a great avenue for the Titans there. There's no first-round tackles left.
There aren't really any first-round cornerbacks left.
There aren't a lot of first-round wide receivers available either
once you see Justin Jefferson, Jerry Judy, CeeDee Lamb, Henry Ruggs, T. Higgins
all go off the board, and I'm sitting here looking like,
what would John Robinson actually do here
you're either reaching for someone who's not a first round talent when you should never really
reach for need especially when you're in the Titans position being a talented roster but it's
a really tough position and with my first choice my first mock draft run through the only option
that I had was to agree with Trevor Sycamore his choice at
the beginning of the show I went with Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin DeAndre Swift was gone as
well running back from Georgia so I went with Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin even if the Titans
bring back Derrick Henry they're going to need somebody to compliment Henry to keep him healthy
in the long term they're going to cut Deion Lewis to save salary cap anyway, so the Titans need somebody. I would have rather had DeAndre Swift in that moment
because he's more adept in the passing game, but like I said, he was gone. And J.K. Dobbins is a
little bit better than Jonathan Taylor in the receiving game, but Taylor's just a better player
in my opinion. So at that moment in time, I had no choice but to go with running back. And I wasn't
very happy with that mock draft outcome. So I said, hey, I'm going to run it back again and do another
one. And I was left in a very similar situation. Those top five wide receivers were gone. The top
five tackles were gone. The top four corners were gone. And I'm sitting there looking at the board
like what in the world would John Robinson do now in my second iteration of the mock draft DeAndre Swift was still available so I took
DeAndre Swift as I think he out of the top three top four running backs is the obvious best
compliment with Derrick Henry who I personally expect Derrick Henry to be back on the Titans so
I thought that was the the best, the most realistic, best outcome combination
of those two factors together.
I think DeAndre Swift would be a perfect complement for Henry.
He can handle his own as a runner, but add so much in the receiving game as well.
So either way, looking at both of those, and this is where the Rollins rant factor comes
into this, the Titans are in a tough spot.
They're not going to be able to get a good value at a position of need unless the draft
goes really, really haywire.
They move up.
Or what I want and what my really call for is right now, the Titans need to find a way
to move down and pick up Lucas Niang, pick up Austin Jackson, offensive tackles, trade
down and get into the Denzel Mims, Jalen Rager, KJ Hamler area of wide receiver, trade down and get into the Denzel Mims Jalen Rager KJ Hamler area of wide receiver trade
down into the AJ Terrell range of cornerback I think the Titans will have a lot more to choose
from if they can trade down somewhere from 33 to 45 I think if the Titans can find a trade partner
to come up to 29 to maybe look at Jacob Eason,
maybe if Jordan Love happens to fall that far,
I don't expect it.
But there are other positions.
Maybe one of these teams want to come up
and get a running back
before the run of running back starts going
early in the second round,
late in the first round.
So I think right now,
the Titans really need to start making calls
and seeing who would be interested in coming up to 29 so they can drop back into the top half of the second round. So I think right now the Titans really need to start making calls and seeing who would be interested in coming up to 29 so they can drop back into the top half of the second round.
Remember, the Titans don't have a fourth round pick. The Titans don't have a sixth round pick.
So you could possibly pick up a third round or you could possibly pick up another fourth round
or something like that. Back to our second segment. So I made things go full circle talking about
Trevor Sycamore selected Jonathan Taylor. So didn't I with my first pick. Now I'm going full circle back to the second segment.
You look at what Connor Donick said about the team that the Titans can withstand parting with
all those picks. Well, like I said then, I don't think the Titans can withstand with parting with
a bunch of picks. I think the Titans have a lot more holes than a typical contending team would
have because of the in-house free agents. So the Titans actually need lot more holes than a typical contending team would have because of
the in-house free agents so the Titans actually need to pick up more picks to restock the cupboards
right now with the mass exodus that we are about to see this year and then carry on in the next
year where the Titans could lose some more pieces so the Titans need to pick up some more picks I
think based on how the board is going to fall here, the Titans really need to consider trading down from 29 into the high 30s, the mid 40s, the top first half of the second round so they can take a tackle
or a cornerback or a wide receiver and get better value out of that selection. With my third and
final mock draft that I did myself, I did end up with Jeff Gladney from TCU,
which I think would be a great pick for the Titans.
He had gone before the Titans pick.
They're in the mid-20s.
Every mock draft iteration before that,
the two that I did where I ended up with running back.
But if someone like Jeff Gladney,
who I think is an ideal replacement for Logan Ryan as a slot cornerback,
if he's there, the Titans should scoop him up.
So that covers all of my mock drafts.
That was really fun.
And like I said at the beginning, it's like potato chips.
You can't just do one mock draft once you kind of get sucked in to the mock draft cycle.
They're really fun to go through and look at all of the different possible outcomes.
So as I've said throughout the show, go ahead and check out the draft network.
Everybody over there does excellent work.
They have that mock draft simulator like I'm talking about.
They have really good mock drafts, not just the mock draft Monday version.
And by the time you guys are listening to this,
the new this week's mock draft Monday will be released.
So make sure you guys go check that out.
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