Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - NFL Squad: Are Tennessee Titans Among Bottom Of NFL Convos In 2025?

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

In this week's NFL Squad, the crew discusses which teams who finished near the bottom of the NFL last season will more than likely remain in the basement this upcoming season, which NFL Draft prospect is the best pound for pound player, a debate on Cam Ward/Shedeur Sanders, and where players like Sam Darnold, Cooper Kupp, Aaron Rodgers, and Deebo Samuel would be the best fits.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!FanDuelRight now, new FanDuel customers can get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in Bonus Bets if your first FIVE DOLLAR bet wins!Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

The NFL clock is restarting, but not every team is going to get a fresh start or a fair chance. Which teams won't even get out of the basement in 2025? It's time for NFL squad. You are talking ball with the NFL squad. From the Chiefs to the Bills, Falcons to the 49ers, and everyone else around the NFL. It's the local experts of the Locked On podcast network, bringing you scoops, breakdowns, and the most comprehensive preview of the upcoming weekend for hard-hitting football with our harder-hitting take. Buckle up, it's the NFL E-Squad.

Then we have a seat for you. No hurt feelings allowed. Squad up, you're part of the NFL E-Squad. And welcome to this week's NFL squad episode. Sit back, grab your favorite drink, and join us as we get ready for all of the stuff that's going on with the NFL offseason. Never a dull day when you're covering the National Football League. We are all part of the Locked On

Podcast Network, your team, every day. And we have got quite a group of people. Cody Rourke of Locked On Broncos, along with Sarah Bettinger, also of Locked On Broncos, along with Sarah Bettinger also of Locked On Broncos. So we're getting a double dose of Broncos here. Patricia Trana from Locked On Giants. Aaron Freeman, Locked On Falcons. Mike Debate, Locked On Patriots. Keith Sanchez, Locked On NFL Draft. You know you need some Locked On NFL Draft when it's the off season. You need it all year round, but especially during the off season.

Peter Bukowski, Locked On Packers. Big Sarge from Lockdown Texans, Kevin Ostreicher from Lockdown not going to win the MVP. We are going to start off today's episode. Thank you all for joining us, of course, and we're going to talk about team. We're going to get a little negative here, folks. We're going to start by talking about teams that just have no chance in 2025, right? We talk about every year. Every team is zero and zero. Everybody's tied for first place, but

there's just some teams out there that just don't have a chance for one reason or another. And I actually want to start with Keith. I want to start with locked on NFL draft because a lot of draft talk also centers around team building and how well teams draft and how well teams build these things. There's a lot of options here, man. I mean, you know the league as well, but like Jets, Pats, Browns, Jags, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Patricia, Cow. I mean, you know the league as well, but like Jets, Pats, Browns, Jags, Titans,

Raiders, Giants, Patricia, Cowboys, Saints, Bears, Cardinals, 49ers? Maybe? Which team has zero chance of rebounding in 2025? Yeah, I look at the teams that need quarterbacks that are right outside of the quarterback range, right? So if you're picking outside of the top three or four, you're probably in trouble. So I look probably at the Raiders. I think the Raiders have no shot as currently constructed right now because they're outside of that top, you know, three to five range, right? They need quarterback help. Um, there's a lot of holes on this team period. So that's one team I see the Broncos cheering over there.

So AFC West, uh, that you have to worry about. I look at, I look at the other Raiders as a team that you doesn't have a shot as now currently constructed. Yeah, Sarah, I mean look you're very happy to hear Keith talk about the Raiders having no shot here but give us another team. Give us another team on the list or on your own list that you just don't think has what it takes whether it's from a capital standpoint or a management standpoint to dig themselves out of the basement. Yeah, first of all, I love that pick from Keith. Obviously, when I flush the toilet, it sounds like it's saying Raiders. So I absolutely love that. I'll go with the Cleveland Browns. I think that's the lowest hanging fruit on this list, arguably the worst offseason scenario

that I've ever seen with what they have going on. Their best player doesn't want to be there. Their quarterback that they invested, you know, three draft classes plus 230 million guaranteed in is not working out. So I think that's probably the lowest hanging fruit out of the teams that definitely won't be competing even though they just won 11 games in 2023. Yeah. Patricia, you've been, you've been bravely raising your hand to be the sacrificial lamb here in this conversation. Let's talk about the New York Giants. I mean, what are they going to do? Is there an answer here trading for Matt Stafford and Kelly Stafford? Like what's, what are the Giants going to do here to try to make this thing work?

Oh man, you just want to keep pouring it on, don't you David? Thanks a lot, buddy. Yeah, look, the Giants, you look at them, and Joe Shane will tell you, we've got a good foundation. We've got a good offense. I still think they need some parts on the offensive line. They definitely need to add to the defense, which was just as much of a problem last year as the offense was. But the quarterback situation really

is a concern at this point. You know, look, you're in a situation where Joe Shane and Brian Dable have gotten a grace period this year. But you also have the owner, John Maris, saying, I'm running out of patience with this rebuild. So that to me is like, okay, are they going to do something stupid? Are they gonna, you know, trade away their third overall pick to get a Matthew Stafford? I hope not. I wouldn't do it, but I, you know, who knows what they'll do. So they've got the AFC West, which this year had three teams go to the playoffs, one of which went to the Super Bowl. You got the NFC East, which had two teams that went to the playoffs, including the Super Bowl winner.

You got the NFC North on the schedule. They had three teams that went to the playoffs, all right? So I don't see how this giant team, you know, the quarterback is so key here. And I'm just afraid that they're gonna do something that they're gonna regret Given that this quarterback class in the draft is just not very rich if you will Yeah, no, I absolutely hear you my question you Patricia is is is there a world where they don't figure out the quarterback situation this year?

And table still has a job If they win, I mean, you know, will they lean on the running game? Maybe? I mean, they did, they kind of did that in 2022. If you think about it, Saquon Barkley, when he was here, he accounted for I think it was, was it 39 or 29? It was a big chunk of the offensive production. So they find a way to win if they beef up that defense and that defense can stifle some of these high scoring machines that they're going to see in 2025. Maybe, maybe they can get

by. I mean, I don't know that Tommy DeVito would be the answer. But yeah, it's all going to depend on who they bring in because look, that offense, they've got the talent. Yeah, I know. Yeah. They've got the talent with Malik neighbors, Tyrone Tracy Jr. They beef up that offensive line. And oh, by the way, Brian Dable, you know, he needs to give up the play calling, but that's another topic the other day, I guess. Yeah, make sure you check out Locked on Giants

for that conversation, because that's a very important conversation we had around those parts. I want to go to you big stars, Locked on Texans. So Houston Texans, right back to back playoffs, AFC South division champs, all the good stuff, Ford seed in the AFC playoff picture. But there's a lot of people out there talk about, you know, the Texas took a second back, maybe CJ Stroud took a step back. Maybe they're a little bit of fool's gold benefiting from being in a weak division. I don't know if you agree with that sentiment, but I do want to ask you of all the playoff teams, right? Chargers

in there, Broncos are in there, commanders commanders are in there and some of the usual suspects Is there a fool's gold team that was in the playoffs this year that you don't think was actually a player? I was like to put it teams in the playoffs, but they're not necessarily a playoff team With the Packers in the playoffs in the playoffs. The Packers were in the playoffs. Oh, no. So we're gonna talk about fool's gold. If we're gonna talk about fool's gold,

there's fool's gold for you. I mean, and I watched, and I sat on the couch with my wife. And one of those thug tears rolled down the side of her cheek as they lost, again, as I told her that they would. But no, seriously, that was just a shot at Peter. I'm not a huge believer in the Chargers. And because I don't know what Justin Herbert is going to be. Like, you know, one week he's the goat, he's going to replace Tom Brady.

And then the next week you're looking here saying to yourself, like, what, when was he drafted again? I mean, I think that, you know, even with the hardball situation, with everything that they have going on over there, they have a very good wide, short wide receiver who, you know, overachieves a lot, but that's all they really have on the offensive side of the ball. And so I'm not a firm or a big believer in the charger. I think charges, I think that they are a fool's goal because which Justin Herbert are you going to get week to week? Because I'm going to be honest with you. When I was watching them against the Texans in the playoffs, I'm saying to

myself, guy, you're not who everybody says that you are. And you know, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, if we go back and we look at some of his stats this year, I don't think he had the best statistical year, if I'm not mistaken, maybe, you know, Peter loves to correct me. So he'll, he'll have that, um,'s that pretty soon, but I just don't believe in the charges at all. Yeah. I mean, look, you're pulling a page right out of locked on NFL Tony wings.

And I had a lot of conversations during the season, locked on NFL about whether the chargers were, uh, were for real or not. And of course, if, uh, if, if I get my way, I will be in Brazil for week one to let you know right off the bat if they're for real or not. Of course, the Washington commanders team that I cover in 2024, early 2024 probably would have been on this list for a lot of people, but a really good off season, a really good NFL draft turned things around for them. Who are some of our panel's favorite draft picks coming up in this April's selection committee. We're going to start off Keith Sanchez, the best pound for pound player right now, mid February to him coming up next on this NFL squad episode, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you in part by Turbo Tax.

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get an expert now on TurboTax.com only available with TurboTax live full service real time updates only in the iOS mobile app. See guarantee details at TurboTax.com slash guarantees. Which draft prospect are you most interested in following the or during rather the lead up to April's NFL draft? That's question we're asking our panel here on this week's NFL squad episode. And we got to, if we're talking NFL draft, we got to go to Keith Sanchez locked on NFL draft, the expert here. Keith, that's, that's kind of the question. And I know everybody's got a little bit of a different

way of measuring this, but to you, who to you is the best pound for mound player, player or player in this year's NFL draft? Oh, so best player, best player. I'm gonna go Abdul Carter. And the reason is, is that everybody compares this guy to Michael Parsons, but I will take it one step further. I think he's actually a better stack linebacker than what Michael Parsons is. I think Abdul Carter has all pro potential as an edge rusher. And I think he has pro bowl level caliber if you just wanted to put him at stack linebackers. I think so many different coordinators are going to look at him and say that this guy is a true versatile front seven piece, right?

And he can do it all. And I think we've learned this year, right? Especially with the run game coming back is that linebackers are back in high priority. You need linebackers to be able to fill gaps. So I think that's why you even elevate his stock just a little bit more. But you're talking about a guy that I'm willing to go all in and not really like is Abdul Carter. You think Sam linebacker spot like like Von Miller as a rookie where he's playing off the ball a little on early downs and then on third down second and long, you just unleash him? Yeah, I think he can. And just watching the film, like I said, from an

instincts perspective, I don't think he get lost in the box, right? There's a lot of guys that we like to try to slide at the linebacker position They wind up staying at that four to five yard depth and they never Attack the line of scrimmage a dual Carter is a guy that understands how to read blocks keys and diagnosis and plays downhill So I think he definitely can do that. I don't think moving him Either way is a loss for your defense. I think he plays well on the second level. Yeah, now looking at this panel now, obviously, quarterbacks are always gonna be a big topic of conversation going in the NFL

draft this year's class is getting a lot of conversation about how little potentially talent there is, even though I'm seeing some mock drafts now. So I got two quarterbacks going in the top 10, things like that. Patricia, we're gonna come to you cuz you're the only person sitting here that needs to cover a better quarterback than you did last year, but I do want to go to you, Aaron Freeman. So when people are talking about their teams taking quarterbacks and whether or not they should take a quarterback, should not take a quarterback, you have a very interesting foxhole to talk about this

conversation from because going into April, most people said there's no no no reason for the Falcons draft quarterback in the first round. They do it anyway. Get a whole lot of words dumped on them. But a year later, I mean, how's that pick looking now to you covering the Falcons? Well, it's looking pretty good, you know, given that the circumstance if the Falcons didn't, it's looking pretty good. You know, given that the circumstance, if the Falcons didn't take Michael Pinnix last year, we'd be sitting here convincing ourselves that, hey, you know, the second half of Kirk Cousins

is 2024 season, just ignore that. Cause he's gonna bounce back and he's gonna look like he did in the front half of the season. And nobody would be probably buying that at this stage in time, myself included. So, you know, PENIX gives you a lot more hope and optimism for what could be in 2024 as opposed to, or in 2025, as opposed to what is in 2024. So I think that's really the selling point when it comes to all these teams when it comes to taking quarterback, it's the hope, it's the optimism,

it's the future, it's, you know, the, the dreams of what may be, you know, a lot of people talking about Cody and Sarah, like a lot of people poo poo, the Broncos taken Bo Nicks and six months later they're in the playoffs. So it's one of those things where, um, the greatest show ever. This is my favorite. I'm going to do is believe baby. Yeah. Hey, listen, it's like one of those things where it's like, you know, the hope is really what these quarterbacks bring to teams. Hey, Dave, I got a question. Dave, can I ask Aaron a question? Of course.

When it comes to Michael Pinnix, does his age and his injury history, that doesn't scare the Falcons going into the future at all? I mean, it scares me a little bit, but like, what else is there? Like, you know, it's like, I think the whole conversation about quarterback age is getting reassessed now because of the success of guys like Bo Nicks and Jane Daniels. And then you kind of look at where Michael Pinnix was going into those last three starts of the season, where like he basically got one preseason accident and

Then really didn't have any work done Throughout the season as the backup taking no practice reps really And you're not even getting scout team reps and whatnot So he can't comes in right away and looks like oh like this guy doesn't look like a guy That's making his first NFL start in that game against the Giants. Sorry, Patricia. And so like I think the age stuff when you have, you know, five years of experience, like some of these guys are now coming into the league. I don't think it's as big an issue as it may have been a few years ago when everybody just wanted to get the 21 year old guy that has all the upside, especially if nowadays because these guys are playing right away. So it's one of those things where it's like if you're got a little bit more

seasoning to you, I don't think it's a negative really. I think easy to forget Joe Burrow was 24 his rookie season and no one said a word about it. So it's just one of those things too, like sometimes our perception of prospects color the way that we feel about their age. we don't like this prospect and he's 24. So it has to be a negative. Whereas everyone is just like, Joe Burrow is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

And so the fact that he's 24 is elided in the conversations that we have up until, now he's 28, like who cares? He's really good. I think that's the thing. Age is another. Joe Burrow is actually older than Lamar Jackson. Like who cares? He's really good. I think that's the thing. He's just a number. El Burro is actually older than Lamar Jackson. Wow.

Keith, I was going to ask you this because we talk about like the top two quarterbacks people are talking about this year's draft. Obviously Cam Ward, Shadur Sanders. You look at Cam Ward's body work and obviously playing at a little bit of a bigger program. But then you look at Shadur who played one obviously at Jackson State, but then played these last two seasons at Colorado. Bigger program than Jackson State, but does that experience going from an HBCU to Colorado where it's not necessarily, you're not playing the best competition out there overall. Where does that go in terms of the evaluation of a QB like Chedur

and obviously all the questions surrounding this year's draft? Yeah, it's fun because it's usually the exact opposite of what we see, right? When we talk about Joe Burrow, right? And had the opportunity to play with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. You talk about those Alabama quarterbacks, right? That had Pro Bowls left and right, right? And you look at some of those and you look at your door and you look at the opposite side of it, that we kind of watched him play from a disadvantageous situation.

He played in per chaos, right? And who has put more pressure on a quarterback than what his own father has, right? And so I look at that and I think about it like, hey, am I getting a quarterback if I'm the New York Giants, right? Not Draft Shador Sanders, what else is going to scare this kid, right? His father is Deion Sanders and has been Deion his whole entire life and doubles and triple down on being Deion Sanders and has been Deion his whole entire life and doubles and triple down on being Deion Sanders. So if Shador fails, it won't be because of fear of the big lights.

And we've also seen him play behind a bad offensive line already. So I think he'll come in and say, hey, I've been here before, been in bad situations. And I also have the faith and the belief that we can turn this thing around. So that's why I kind of find being comfortable with Chador because I'm actually happy that I've seen him in bad situations. I worry if I'm if I'm a coach though, if I'm a head coach, if

I'm Brian Dayball, and I drive Chador Sanders and Chador is good and and we suck. Isn't isn't the first call to Deon Sanders. I mean, maybe not, maybe not the Marys like maybe it's different with the Giants. But if your other teams like Deon has been like the phrase that I love that I heard about this is that should or Santa's been homeschooled his whole football career because his dad has coached him. And so we've been hearing like, Oh, this is a

package deal. If you're, you know, if you're Pete Carroll, isn't is that maybe the perfect situation, for example, like they they Raiders move up to get should or Sanders and in two years, Dion Sanders is coaching the Raiders Deion in the black and silver guys. Come on the aesthetic. It's it would be incredible stuff. Like if you're if you're a coach on the hot seat, do you want to draft Shadr Sanders though, because of the looming specter of Deion making a phone call to the owner, getting in the room with him and saying, hey, this is not working out. I can get the most out of the guy that

you used a top five, top 10, whatever pick on. Let's go. I know it's a team game, Peter. And yes, the quarterback, I know that not every owner knows that sometimes I know, I know giant ownership hasn't always made the best decisions, but I'd like to think that they know that, okay, it's more than just a quarterback. You also need a good defense. You need, you know, a good special teams unit, which the Giants haven't had in like forever. You know, yes, the quarterback is a big part of it. But look, they went how many years with Daniel Jones and, you know, too many.

Yeah, too many, in my opinion. I think, I think the other New Jersey team is actually more likely to pull that move than, than Patricia's giants. But Patricia, I do want to ask you, if you have your pick of quarterbacks for the New York giants in this year's draft, which one is it for you? Oh, well, I guess I would go with cam ward. I just like his game a little bit better. No disrespect to Shador Sanders. I think he's gonna make some team very, very

happy, but I think Cam Ward might be a little bit better of a fit for the Giants and what they're looking to do. I mean, truth be told, I don't think, you know, both are on the board at three and Abdul Carter is on the board. I go Abdul Carter and I don't think twice about it I mean, but I Don't know. I mean, I think I would go with Ken Ward. I do I do want to get this question before we move on to Our next topic Mike debate Peter because Kevin Ostrich will start with you Mike Which NFL scouting combine drill would you absolutely kill? And I'm absolutely going to hold you to it the next time I see you. Oh yeah,

absolutely. And of course, anybody that's seen me in action knows that the 40 yard me doing that would be must see TV. It'd probably take me three weeks to finish it. I'm going to go with the bench at this point. You know what? I've got weight, I've got size. I've got strength I'm gonna utilize that. Yeah, you do not want to see me taking part in any agility Drills, I guarantee you that how many reps how many how many times we put in 225 up? How many reps we getting? Oh, I don't know. You know what? Let me let me guess eight or nine at this point at this point. Okay, that's yeah. Rose's eyebrow. That's pretty good. I like that. Peter Bukowski.

I have a feeling it's not the three cone. Which which drill would you would you kill? Alright, I'm gonna cheat though. I have the answer. I would have you process. Come on all the interviews. Ten minutes the team. That's not a true question.

Oh, this is what I do for a living. That's cheating. That's cheating. Fair point though. I think it's fair. An important part of the combine. I mean, it's a fair point. It is a fair point.

Kevin Ostreicher, to you, my friend. So what we need to do is we need to set up Mike versus me at the 40. This is what we have to do. Next time, we're gonna do it. Cause I'm running that 40. I'm doing it and I'm doing it in. Will you be Darren Ravel? Yes, I will be I will be Rajay Zain. I will be who else does it? Shepter does it. I'll be Shepter. I'll do it and I'll do it

in five five at least if not five. All right. Well, a lot of off season moves are going to be made as always in the national football league. And our panel is going to tell you where every single move should happen coming up next on this week's NFL squad episode, part of the locks on podcast network, your team every day. Today's episode is brought to you in part by fan duel. When the games tip off, the NBA action is just getting started and there's no better place to get in on it than fan duel America's number one sports book with fan duel. You can place live bets throughout the game.

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little bit in limbo, uh, where they should end up in the 2025 NFL season and potentially even further. We were talking a little bit before we hit record about Cincinnati Bengals, wider senior T Higgins. And of course, the story is that he is going to be franchise tagged. My understanding is supposed to be the non-exclusive franchise tags. We can still negotiate, you know, teams would have to give up a bounty of draft picks to sign him. So likely not to happen. Kevin Ostreicher, you're the closest thing we have here to the Cincinnati Bengals on the program. Should the Cincinnati Bengals tag T Higgins to keep him from leaving or should they let him walk out the door?

They should not let him walk out the door. That is the first thing I will say. They absolutely should not do that. I mean, if it has to be the franchise tag, then I guess it has to be the franchise tag. But I just don't know what the future would hold for T if that were the case. I mean, would T play on it this year is the question because with the Bengals, obviously there are questions about if they're going to pay some of their other guys. I know there are reports now coming out that Jamar Chase could get a 40 million plus per year payday, which he deserves. The Trey Hendrickson situation. Joe Burrow has been very clear that the Bengals cannot let these guys leave because look, Joe Burrows, a great quarterback.

I've seen that firsthand covering this Ravens team, but he cannot do it by himself. And part of what makes this Bengals team so good is the fact that if you throw everything at Jamar Chase, we still got to worry about T Higgins on the other side of things. And we've seen what because he has been injured a little bit over the course of his career when he's not in there. It takes the Bengals offense a couple of years down. So I think that the Bengals should pony up the money for T. I think they should find a way.

I know that you can't keep everybody, but I think with the way Joe Burrow has become very vocal with Trey Hendrickson, with T Higgins, with keeping his guys there, you can't upset your franchise quarterback. Joe Burrows don't grow on trees. You have to figure out a way to keep your guys. And I'll end this with another AFC North team. It's my weekly agenda. Miles Garrett to the Baltimore Ravens.

And David, let me say this real quick, David. If T Higgins is looking for a home, a place that has no state tax, great weather, good barbecue, I mean, I'm pretty sure that the Houston Texans will open him, I mean, accept him with open arms and I'm pretty sure Nick Casario could find a way to make him happy here in Houston. I can't wait to find out.

I mean, you just answered the follow up question. Why would it be T Higgins' fault in Houston and not CJ Stroud'suss fault given all the weapons that they've given him and the underwhelming offensive performance. I can't wait to find out why it's T Higgins fault and not CJ Strauss fault. I will tune into Lockdown Texans for that. Peter, Peter, I love you since you love your quarterback and you use the same exact excuses for him.

I love you though. Love hurts, right? Nico Collins does not play in Green Bay. Defon Diggs does not play in Green Bay. I don't, I don't, and, and the Packers offense is produced like a top five offense the last two seasons. So I don't know what we're talking about here. You turn right around and use the same excuses for Jordan love at the end of

the season. Excuse me. What's up? It's good. Huh? These are good. It's for what? Across your heart.

This is there's no excuse. Cause you use the same excuse. I have your tweet. I don't have to excuse anything. It's a top 10 offense. There's no excuse. They produce. I love it. What's the excuse? This is who produced the Packers offense. Oh, and the techies are the ones that didn't produce below. I'm sorry. The last time I checked the Texans were losing to the Kansas City Chiefs in the division around.

Well, when you have the best defense in the AFC, that's probably a pretty good place to be. Peter, you got to find something else to do. You got to find something else to do, Peter. Make sure you check out Locked On Texas. I would love to talk about every week. Out 5 offense next year. Let's do it.

Hey, we'll make a it. T Higgins. Big star. You and me. In eight months we'll talk about the Houston Texans Top 5 offense. What do you say? Put it on the calendar right now. Let's do it. I want to talk about it. I would love to talk about it. I would love nothing more than to talk about it. Let's do it. Hey, except that you used the same excuse about

your wire receiver being injured. It's the same thing that happened here in Houston. The same thing that happened in Houston. You use the same exact excuse, but David, I'm not taking over this show. We would love to have T Higgins here in Houston. I would love to cover T Higgins. The Packers should just sign

Deontay Johnson. That'll fix it all. As far as you know that. We need to, we need to let Ali know. We need to put a pin in this to like, I don't know, we'll remember week 12, week 12, week 13. We need to bring this thing back up on an, I don't know. We'll remember week 12, week 12, week 13. We need to bring this thing back up on an NFL squad episode. Very good stuff

guys. I appreciate you. Uh nobody here from the NFC West. So, we'll go AFC West. Say, uh Cooper Cup. First of all, is anybody gonna trade for Cooper Cup? Uh and regardless, where should he play in 2025? I think somebody will trade for him. If the Rams are willing to eat that bonus, like it's been reported. And I just, I feel like he's going to be an asset somewhere over the last couple of years. And we're talking years, not just this past year or like when he's healthy,

but per 17 games, 1100 yards, nine touchdowns. I mean, this guy can still be productive when he's out there. Now he may not be the same exact guy that he was when he was contending for offensive player of the year, MVP, all pro, all these sorts of things, but he's still a valuable asset. Now, if he ends up getting traded to the Kansas City chiefs, then delete everything that I just said and forget about it because it's not true. He's terrible in that case. If he goes to the Chiefs, he's washed, he's oft injured. But I would love to see him go to anywhere that has a young quarterback that he can help,

because he can get open quickly, he can create after the catch, he's been in big games. You know who could really use a receiver like that? The Denver Broncos. I was just going to say the Broncos are a great fit. I mean, he would be awesome in Sean Payton's offense. You know, since Bo Nix is apparently a check down merchant, why not check it down to Cooper Cup every so often and see what he can do. I'll say this, I think he doesn't go far.

I think he gets traded, you know, just to a locker over. I think he stays in LA. I think he gets traded to the Chargers. I think you give Justin Herbert him, you don't really have to move him around too much. I think that might be an ideal fit for a cop too. Interesting. Interesting. Which would stink for him. Because they couldn't guard McConkey. Yeah. Patricia Trana, gotta do it. Sam Darnold, let's bring the quarterback conversation back to you. Where should Sam Darnold be suiting up in 2025? I don't think it'll be with the Giants. I really don't. I'm not so sure that's, you know,

I don't want to speak for Sam Darnold, but I can't imagine him wanting to come back to this market. Although, you know, look, if he cashes in on a payday, I think, you know, maybe that will trump everything. But I think Sam Darnold, let's see, maybe, or I'm gonna think outside the box, maybe the Raiders, they can use a quarterback, especially if they can't engineer a trade up. But I do think though, a lot's gonna depend on, where is JJ McCarthy and his rehab, and what are they gonna do with Danny Dines?

Let's not forget about Danny Dines, do they see a future with him? So I think it's Sam Darnold doesn't get a tag and I don't know that I would give him the franchise tag. I would maybe give them the transition tag if I'm Minnesota. Maybe Darnold goes down to the Raiders because again, the Raiders are drafting six and if the two quarterbacks go off the board quickly, what are the Raiders going to do about a quarterback? Is Tom Brady's first quarterback movement piece in Las Vegas going to be to sign Sam Darnold? That just seems pretty far fetched. It's hard, like as you were trying to vamp to

try and think of something, I'm racking my brain going, I don't, I really don't know where, where, where makes sense. Who's going to give him $40 million. Like it's easy to say teams get our things would, but I really, I really don't know. I really don't. The one that, that I kind of like is if, if they can trade Matt Stafford for stuff, like good stuff, Sean McVeigh saying I'll take Sam Darnold. And I think I can't even with him. And now I'm set up for five years instead of one, maybe two. That is the one that I'm kind of keeping my eye on. Especially now that we're getting the reports of like, we want to keep him, but first round pick.

Like, come on now. That's what you leak when you're hoping someone offers you something, please. That's always the media leak of like up your offers and we will give you this guy like someone send us something good. As long as the the Cleveland Browns are around, there's always a home for some some overpriced quarterback. Yeah, I mean, yeah, because meddling owners will get involved. I just that's why I think the Tom Brady piece is Las Vegas is. We see chaos maybe imagine imagine the 49ers decide like, you know what?

We don't want to pay Brock Purdy what he wants to be paid. And they decide to go back with Sam. Sam was already there. He was a backup. Nope. You already know that system. I mean, not saying like that's going to happen, but could you imagine what type of fire that would set in San Francisco?

You've already crazy. Or what if the Coles aside, they don't want anything rich is anymore. So I was going to go, can I jump in right here? Yeah. You've already gone crazy. What if the Colts decide they don't want Anthony Richardson anymore? Can I jump in right here? One of my parents is, if you're the Indianapolis coach and knowing how that system was currently constructed and built around Anthony Richardson, do you not try to take a swing at Justin Fields? And if he's a step or two better than what Anthony Richardson is, what does that put you as far

as quarterback play? And because I think the coach, right, you look at some of the offensive weapons, they have some of the, you know, well-rounded offensive wide receiver core. And if you put Justin Fields, a guy who has experience, I'm not saying he's going to be a pro bowl guy, but if you look at what Jalen Hurts did with Shane Steichen, can Justin Fields not run the ball 15 times a game? And he's a veteran, he's played a lot of football. I just think that he can come in there

and potentially provide real pressure to Anthony Richardson and has some of the same athleticism skillsets. Yeah, I mean, look, I can see it. I love it. I love the conversation guys. Aaron Freeman, I wanna throw you Debo Samuel. Where should Debo be playing 2025? Let's give him to Arthur Smith.

He loves his positionless players. That's fun. Let's play Debo in Pittsburgh and see Mike Tomlin have to deal with that. And let's make it work with Arthur Smith. George Pickens, Debo Samuel. You got it. You can pair him up with Aaron Rodgers.

Hey, Mike Debate, how about Debo in New England? I talked about this a little bit earlier last week when some of the conversation was rolling around that New England would throw their hat into the ring. Look, New England needs help. We need, I was watching you and Sarge go back and forth about top five offenses. I want a red zone touchdown.

That's all we want. We want, and I'll be happy this season. Look, they need as much help as they can get. And Deebo is a true dual threat I think it would be interesting to see what Josh McDaniels could do with him because you know Josh loves guys that can win in the short intermediate areas of the field But he also loves guys that can carry utilize that jet sweep. We've seen guys be able to do that before in New England I think it'd be an interesting pairing if the price is right

I think New England should absolutely be on the phone trying to make this happen. Because he's going to be a post, he's going to be a post June one cut, right? Which means that the 49ers are going to save money. If they trade them, then they, they lose what 15 million, but if they, they cut them, they save 5 million. And so it's so funny because John and I was talking to John totally is against Deebo coming here into Houston to be a one year rental. And I'm saying to myself, well, I mean, if he could,

the relationship that him and D'Amico has and he knows the kind of coach D'Amico is. I can see him coming to Houston as a one year rental because Houston doesn't have enough money to actually go out and get a wide receiver too, they're going to have to draft a wide receiver too. And so if you know that, if you know that you're not going to be in the free agent market, you're not going to have the money until 2026, why not convince Debo to come here on a one year contract like you did Stefan Diggs and you can get him to be the utility type of player that you need opposite of Nico Collins. And maybe then they'll have an above average offense. That would be amazing. Oh, come in full circle. Peter Bukowski, Aaron Rogers. What should Aaron be doing in 2025?

Yeah, Peter, I heard I heard there's a position open on the Lockdown Podcast Network. I think a wellness podcast focused on psychotropics. No. I thought it was an opening with the block on Packers podcast. No, no, no. Yeah. I mean, honestly, we would do numbers. Yeah. That would be West CTV. But I don't know if David can carve out the million dollars per weekly episode that or

whatever McAfee was paying Aaron Rodgers. But I think the answer for Aaron is Pittsburgh. And you bring Devante Adams with and now you've got Devante Adams, George Pickens, now George Pickens and Aaron Rodgers would like get in a fist fight by week four. But that would be part of the appeal. Like that would be part of the fun. Mike Tomlin can manage these sorts of situations. I think that's the only place he can go where he has any shot to win. And so he has to, I think, I think have his tail between his legs a little bit in a situation like that and say, look, I like Mike Tomlin, like fix me. I give myself over to you. Um, and, And, and then see if they can make that work. I think that's the only place that makes sense. Like, do you want to go to Las Vegas with

no one? Do you want to go to Tennessee with with no one? Like, I would love that for Tyler Rowland, because the content would be immaculate. But like, I don't think that makes sense for Aaron Rodgers. And I don't know that there's apparently the Minnesota Viking things is not going to happen. Again, I would love it for the content standpoint, Luke, Ron, God bless. But, uh, you know, I think the Steelers is it's really, to me, if I were advising Rogers, I would say it's Pittsburgh or you retire. That's the only thing that makes sense. Thomas didn't fix Russell Wilson.

How you think he's going to fix Aaron Rogers? Look, I didn't see it was a, you have it making it work. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Keith Sanchez, I want to wrap it was going to work. I know what a contest you have at making it work. Yeah, yeah. Keith Sanchez, I want to wrap it up with you, brother. Next time we do an NFL squad episode, we will be in the midst of the NFL scouting combine. What is, whether, whatever it is that you're at the top of your head, what are you most looking forward to next week in Indianapolis? Has to be Travis Hunter, right?

What does he run? What is the conversation around him? I know they say he's going to do Hunter, right? What does he run? What is the conversation around him? I know they say he's gonna do corner, right? But I have to think especially with Deion guy in this situation, right? That there's gonna be some non-traditional things going on with this. And I just want to know what does he weigh? Like what is his actual height? Will people start to have the conversation? And I thought about it from this perspective is that I think it's really cool that he plays two positions, right? And if you're a GM, you look at it and you say, okay, cool, if I draft this guy, I have a starting corner and I have a starting wide receiver.

But we know that the NFL being 18 weeks, 17 games plus playoffs, the thing is this, that if he gets injured, you don't not, you not only have an injured wide receiver, you have an injured corner, right? And I think will GMs start to look at it from that perspective that yeah, it's cool, but I could lose two positions in one injury and then how do they value that? So I think just the intrigue around Travis Hunter and see what he does. I think it's going to be very exciting and very fun. Yeah, absolutely. It's going to be a lot of fun. Like you said, the off season is always a lot of fun and we've got plenty more coming up to talk about this off season. So we will be doing this every single week on NFL squad.

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