Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - NFL SQUAD: NFL Rule Changes SPARKS Debate | League Overhaul Incoming?

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

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be the off season but there's plenty of stuff going on as all of the new free agents and traded players are meeting their media beats for the first time. The NFL is still behind the scenes turning away trying to change the game, especially the Detroit Lions who just apparently hate everything about what the NFL does. We are all part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day, and we want to welcome you into this week's episode. Cody Rourke of Locked On Broncos, as always joining us here, Alex Clancy of Locked On Cardinals, Mike Debate, Locked On Patriots, Kevin Ostreicher of Locked On Ravens. No cute nicknames for your show this week. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely. We are gonna start off today's episode talking about NFL rule proposals. This is the time of year that NFL teams get together and they discuss and they present potential rule changes. Of course guys, the ban, the effort to ban the tush push, The Green Bay Packers leading the charge there, although after the NFC Championship game, perhaps the Washington commanders, Frankie Lew specifically should be leading the charge to ban the tush push. Speaking of the Philadelphia Eagles, they want to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules to grant both teams an opportunity to possess the ball in overtime no matter what happens with the first possession and they want to make overtime 15 minutes to you know, presumably give people enough time to have at

least two possessions there and then the Detroit Lions. All they want to do is change everything they want to eliminate automatic first downs as a penalty for defensive holding or illegal contact. They want to allow for an IR slot in the off season that would allow an injured player to not count against a 90 man roster. However, that player could not be designated for return. So basically you're talking like, I don't know, maybe maybe a receiver who tore

pretty much everything, unfortunately, in his knee, and may not be playing football for the Houston Texans anytime soon. And they want to reseed the playoffs, what I like to call the Peter Bukowski rule, unfortunately, is not here to defend the rule. But basically, the theory is everybody gets into the playoffs the same way they always have division champs, wild cards. But once that is set, if a wild card team has a better record than

division champion, that wild card team would then host a playoff game. So Cody, we'll start off with you, my good buddy. Which of these rules intrigues you the most rule changes or say intrigues you the most? Well, in terms of intrigue, I I'm a defensive guy, so I might be a little biased here. I played defensive back and and I hate how the game is officiated today for the defensive side of the ball. I feel like there's too many rules and contingencies in place. You can't breathe on an opposing

offensive player without there being a flag. I I really think in today's NFL and it's always been part of the game, right? Physicality, especially even playing press coverage, could result in the opportunities being able to get hands on guys. I understand within a certain yard range you want that, but I think that the Lions proposing that the NFL eliminates an automatic first down for legal contact. I think that's huge because in today's NFL, we're seeing a lot of man being played, but we're also seeing a lot of zone. So you got to be able to reroute guys with, you know, and I understand you can't tackle

a guy, you can't whiplash him or anything like that, but you can reroute, I think get hands on to impede just a straight line to be able to attack a soft spot of the zone defense. I find a way to make that to where it's not an automatic first down. I think illegal contact, you see drives to get extended, maybe make it half the distance or something, but not an automatic first down. I think illegal contact you ask you see drives to get extended. Maybe make it half the distance or something, but not an automatic first down at that point. I like that one.

I think it's a good one. And obviously I think we'll share our thoughts on maybe the the playoff seating that Detroit also proposed as well. I thought that was pretty good. But yeah, that's where I'm going to start. Yeah, I mean, look, I like the fact and this conversation has happened across multiple seasons for multiple people that So many defensive penalties are just so much more punitive than offensive penalties like offensive penalties

You pretty much always have an opportunity to save your drive, but defensive penalties I mean we've seen plays go from like third and 20 to first downs for plays Penalties that happen like two yards off the line of scrimmage on a play that resulted in eight yard gain and would have led to a punt like like some of these defensive rules being automatic first downs are absolutely insane. So I'm all in support of that one for the Philadelphia Eagles and obviously for the or not the Eagles, the Detroit Lions and the entire National Football League obviously is going to benefit from this. Kevin, I want to ask you as well. What one of these other rule changes that stands out to you,

is it the, the playoff seating? I mean, the Ravens don't typically have to worry about that, right? But do you, do you think that that's, that's a fair rule change? Yeah, that's where I was going to go. And I think it is fair. You know, you kind of look at how the NBA does things now and it's the same thing where it's the highest record gets the highest seed and so on and so forth. Now, essentially if you do this, if you're the NFL, divisions become a lot less important when it comes to winning those games for your division title, but it's still important to win your division games.

But the thing with that is I feel like some of the complaints would end up being, oh, well, let's just say the AFC or let's say the Browns become this great team, the Bengals, this great team, Raven Steelers, and people say, well, oh, the Ravens have to play these three awesome teams and all these teams have to play where let's say, I don't know, some random division like the NFC South, you know, that's a division that let's say they have four really bad teams. And all of a sudden it's like, oh, well now these teams don't have to play. So if there's one good team in the NFC South, they can just beat up on those other three teams and they get a really high seed in the playoffs.

That's not as fair. So I still think it's a thing to do because we saw with the NFC North last season with Green Bay, Detroit and Minnesota, you have Minnesota and Green Bay. I think unfairly, you know, Minnesota gets the five, Green Bay, they have double digit wins. They don't get a top four seed. I think the team should be rewarded for their performance. And yes, sometimes the visions will be good. Sometimes the visions will be bad, but I think there's enough parity in what divisions can be year to year where it won't just be top seeds will have that opportunity.

Yeah, look, I think if I if memory serves me correctly, I believe the Buccaneers and the Rams both would have had to travel for their first playoff games. And actually, I think that the Washington commanders would have got one of those home games, which would have helped me greatly because I'll tell you what guys four weeks on the road, the commanders finished the season in Dallas four weeks in a row on the road. It was exciting. Don't get me wrong, but man, it was

exhausting and painful on so many different levels, including my wallet, which none of you care about. Alex Clancy, I want to ask you though, out of these rules, if there was a rule that hasn't been proposed here that you could propose for the Arizona Cardinals, what would it be? Yeah, I think it has to be centralized around being able to review personal fouls on quarterbacks.

It's so disjointed with how things are now. It's like, oh, everyone is 100% correct every time. There's no checks and balances. And this doesn't have to be, a head coach has an extra challenge, a game just for that specifically. This could all come from the booth. There have been such egregious calls, and it's not just Patrick Mahomes who gets these calls. Quarterbacks get the helmet turned one way, but it was a legal hit and it was a shoulder pad or something, 15 yards. And you talked about earlier, David, like, they, they're debilitating to defensive drives when you have somebody on 3rd and 20. So I think that's the biggest one for me. I do want to touch really quickly on what Kevin said about the parity with receding. I think we have a lack of parity now. The really good teams are getting a lot better. So it's not like there's no middle class in

the NFL anymore. So I don't think receding should be something where it's like it used to be, Oh, you get a last place schedule, you have a better chance of getting first place in your division. That's gone. Like Philly is getting stronger every year. Detroit's getting stronger every year. You know, Jacksonville's getting worse every year. Tennessee's getting worse every year. So there's not the parity like there once was. And while there always will be, it's not gonna be as cyclical as it used to be. So I think that's what makes it tricky with the recent. Yeah, look, I mean, I think the NFL still has the most parity of any, you know, professional sports league on the planet, granted. But I agree with you, I think.

But this is the most important thing that we've seen. out, you know, professional sports league on the planet. Great, but I agree with you. I think that we've seen. Yeah, I think right now is probably the time where the NFL lacks as much parody as as they obviously would like to. So I think it's very interesting discussion and yeah and not and to add to your, you know, roughing the past name like not just confirming roughing the past, but also the ones that are missed like let's let's help out. You know these

referees who have all these things to see and they're humans, so they're going to make mistakes and all these things. I remember I can't remember the specific penalty or the game, so forgive me for that lack of context, but I remember there was a game specific where a penalty happens. It's a big penalty. It's a big time penalty that moment in the game and literally everybody in the press box is sitting there saying less than 60 seconds later, we're all

sitting there saying we can see on the angle that we get, which we don't even have all the angles, but that's a bad call. There's absolutely zero reason to not use the technology at the NFL has at a disposal right now to make sure the game is officiated appropriately when it takes seconds. We're not talking a five minute commercial break here. We're talking seconds to get these things right. Sometimes absolutely no reason that technology. What's the point of the sky judge when when you run into that situation like you're telling

me, can't have their guy that's up in the box. They hey, OK, we got we got word in really quickly. Hey, that's the wrong call. Let's change it. Like they're so concerned about all we can't stop the flow of the game at the at the sake of getting it right. I think that they should. I don't think it hurts like players want you to get it right more so than it's like, oh,

here we go. You already have these stupid two minute TV timeouts that these guys have to sit there and watch people in the stadium do little, you know, races like barrel races or running around the field. It's like, Hey, if you're stopping that for that, they hate that. But if you're stopping the game in the context of getting an important call, right, that could make a difference toward the end of the game. They're okay with that. I've talked to

players, but that's, that's what we're running into though. The NFL, they had the technology to do it. Why can't they embrace it? It's already the slowest. It's already the slowest pace game of professional sports by a long shot now because baseball is a shot clock. I mean, what does it matter? Yeah.

What is an extra minute or two here in their matter? And we've seen you've seen them do it too. And we're wondering games were one progression away guys from having nano cameras and every blade of turf across the national football league. Use all of those advantages to make the game better. Like you said, Cody, every NFL player, they just want to win and lose based on the merits of how they play. They don't want some crazy crap to cause them a loss. And I mean, they'll celebrate the wind. They'll take the win or whatever. Remember when Clay Matthews sent out Roderick Goodell's phone number after the Hail Mary? I love that man.

Mike debate. Well, I also need you to chime in, man. What's a, you know a thing or two about covering teams that affect rule changes. What's a rule change you'd like to see the NFL adopt? Oh, that's a low blow. The guy that was affecting the rule changes isn't here anymore, David. No, I'm only kidding. Look, I say that with every bit of Reverence to bill Belichick, but look I think a Rule that right now is catching my eye is something that affected the New England Patriots in years past and that's the playoff overtime Rules that the Eagles are proposing right now right now They'd like the regular season overtime period to match the post season overtime period.

And look, I understand the need for equality in that relevance and that realm to allow teams equal opportunity to be able to possess the ball and that type of chess matchup where it, let's see if your defense can stop my offense and go one on one and still have a chance. To me, I do think this does skew the balance of competitive equality. I know that's why the Eagles want to go ahead and put this through. But I think the best part of the football game is the end of the game. And I've always been a fan of the end of the game, whether you take your time out, how you manage the game, the last two minutes, getting the ball back, you try to keep the ball away from the other team, whatever it is, I think that combines all the elements of football. I think when you start handing the ball back and forth and trying to make it a, a fair way, I guess, of trying to get guys into the end zone, I think it takes away from that a little bit. So I look at that, of course, team that I cover has been on the fortunate end of that more often than not. I point to Super Bowl 51. I point to the playoff matchup against the Kansas City Chiefs. I understand there are teams out there that feel they didn't get their extra shake,

but you can't get the job done within 60 minutes. There's got to be some sort of accountability for that. And I think the more these rules are put in place, I think it takes away some of that accountability. Yeah, I say just coin toss it. just have a coin toss. You know what? Actually, just break out Madden at the 50 and just have them go at it. Get your best Madden player from the locker room, equipment, guys included. Just just throw them out there with controllers and let them have that.

Obviously I'm just joking. What isn't a joke is the fact that Aaron Rodgers might be about to complete the Brett Favre trifecta, and it would be the most amazing thing that I've seen in my time watching the NFL and has nothing to do with what happens on the field. Is Aaron Rogers going to Minnesota conflicting reports as we enter this week here on this NFL Squad episode, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, every day. Today's NFL Squad Show is brought to you by our friends over there at Upwork. And scaling your business requires the right expertise at the right time. With Upwork, you can find specialized freelancers in marketing, development, design, and more.

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how badly his friend comes to save the day with him and just ruins his season. And just what else happens? Aaron Rodgers just will not go away. The latest gentleman is that the New York Giants actually seem to be out on the on the whole conversation, but also may not be able to trade up to number one, so maybe they are going to be forced to be back in it. But the Minnesota Vikings, obviously look for those who don't know or don't remember Brett Favre goes from the Green Bay Packers, New York Jets ends

up with the Minnesota Vikings. Aaron Rogers, Brett Favre hate each other to a certain level of extremity that I'm not interested in really learning about, but it's there. Aaron Rodgers of course goes from the Green Bay Packers to the New York Jets. Now comically he may go to the Minnesota Vikings. I think the only thing better would be to make him wear number four in Minnesota if he shows up there. However, there are reports that one the Minnesota Vikings are preparing to go forward with JJ McCarthy. Then there's also reports that yeah, but they

also haven't completely closed the door on Aaron Rogers. So I want to ask you guys this first and foremost, and actually I'm gonna start with you. Mike debate locks on Patriots. Should the Vikings be interested in even leaving the door cracked for Aaron Rogers or do they need to move forward? JJ McCarthy, their first round quarterback from last year who was injured and unfortunately was on IR all of this rookie season. No, they do not need to move forward JJ McCarthy, their first round quarterback from last year, who was injured and unfortunately was on IR all of this rookie season. No, they do not need to leave the door cracked open.

They drafted JJ McCarthy for a purpose. And I believe that's the guy they need to go with. Look, the fact that they invested such high level draft capital in JJ McCarthy shows that they like JJ and they're being smart and not alienate him by bringing in Aaron Rodgers at this point. They saw what Sam Donald did with this club last year. They see Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams and even if you'll permit me to be a homer for a second, folks, even Drake May having first year success, you know, they know that JJ can come in and he can keep this team right where it is. Why run the risk of bringing in a player who's clearly not into mentoring his successor, someone who could

disrupt the team building dynamic that they've built in Minnesota? Aaron Rodgers and the sideshow that he brings with him, in my opinion, is just not worth it. So I think the Vikings would be smart to close this door. Put yourself, your, put all of what you've got behind JJ McCarthy. And then at that point you can move forward. And that's where this team is headed in the, in the short term and in the long term, they clearly saw a lot of what they love in terms of team building, in terms of leadership when it comes to JJ. I think opening the door for Aaron Rogers is the wrong move in every facet for the Minnesota Vikings at this point.

Yeah. I mean, look, when JJ came in the NFL, everybody knew everybody, you know, analyze or projected right that he was a project he's going to need some time to grow and learn. That's that's why a team has Sam Darnold and Jay McCarthy. So they make the best decision they need to moving forward and all that stuff. But Sam Darnold is not Aaron Rodgers and in a lot of ways. But like you mentioned, Aaron Rodgers is not not really

friendly with he doesn't play well with others. You know what I'm saying? Which is ironic considering you play the most complete team game ever, but you know, it is what it is. So, uh, Cody, you know, a thing or two about veteran quarterbacks going places. Obviously it went much better in Denver with paid Manning than it will go. I don't care where he goes. It's going to go a lot worse. So what happened with Peyton wherever Aaron Rodgers ends up. So if it's not Minnesota where I don't even say should, but where might he land?

He shouldn't land on an NFL team this year. You know, in my opinion, like I understand teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers, the New York Giants is the time that we're sitting down here on a Wednesday afternoon recording this. Why would you want to hitch the wagon there? Like, like we talked about last week, if you're the giants and you're that coaching staff and Brian Dable and Joe Shane at GM, this is it. Your last chance is really trying to get it right this year. Now, if you draft a rookie quarterback, you know, in the draft, the giants might be able

to extend the runway of Shane and obviously Brian Dable a little bit because now it's like, Hey, we have a rookie quarterback. Let's see what he can do. It's going to take some time. We've got a good receiver running them leak neighbors, but that's not gonna be enough, you know, to do it. So Hesham Wagner, those guys would be absolutely laughable at this point. The thing that drives me nuts about this whole Minnesota Vikings thing to an Aaron Rodgers,

why would you do that to JJ McCarthy in a sense? Because think about it from his perspective, as we've seen his fan bases, they want to win, right? I understand Aaron Rodgers, he might still be able to play some decent football, but in my opinion here, you drafted a guy to be your eventual franchise guy. If you bring Aaron Rodgers into the mix, even if Rodgers is the backup there in Minnesota, every little mistake that JJ makes, you're going to have the fan base, ah, I don't want, you know, I'm not like what I'm seeing. Let's go with Aaron Rodgers. You're going to impact and

ruin his development. You can shoot his confidence down. I mean, this is a guy want you know, I'm not like what I'm seeing. Let's go with Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna impact and ruin his development You can shoot his confidence down. I mean this is a guy We already know JJ McCarthy has a very very Intense grounding routine before every single game to get him in a spot a good headspace you bring Aaron Rodgers to the mix I think it completely throws that away. I think it's stupid in my opinion Roger shouldn't play football in 2025 Yeah, listen, man You know when the Giants come up in this conversation, actually I was truth. I was more scared about Matt Stafford potentially going

to the Giants, but even Aaron Rodgers as much as I poke fun as much trash as I talk about, you know, just because he's very trash talkable. The thought of Aaron Rodgers and Malik neighbors, perhaps Travis Hunter and Tyrone Tracy with that Giants defense like that's actually not terrible if it's Madden right? It's not terrible. Just another Madden reference. We should get paid. I have a feeling Alex Clancy You don't think Minnesota is a bad idea. Am I am I correct in that assumption that I'm making completely on unkewed? Yeah, so it's the lesser of two evils and let me explain so

So it's the lesser of two evils. And let me explain. So while rational thought would lend you to think that Aaron Rodgers is a complete dumpster fire that you wouldn't let enter the stadium, I completely understand that. Minnesota, included with the Giants and the Steelers, is the most stable situation for Aaron Rodgers. Sure, the Steelers have been the most stable organization

maybe in the history of football. They've got two problems on the outside of wide receivers. For DK Metcalf is the highest penalized wide receivers since being drafted. And George Pickens, you don't know what you're going to get each day. So you put three of them together on the same field. That's not good. Brian Dable probably isn't as good of a head coach as his reputation still would allow him to think. Josheen completely ravaged. He, he, he Dallas mavericks that team. So why would you want to go there? Kevin O'Connell is probably the most underrated head coach in football. And you have Aaron Jones, who he has a history with. You've got the best wide receiver in football. You've got a Top 5 No. 2. You've got a Top five tight end. You've got a really good defense. They've got draft picks. If you ask me who gives the best chance to win in 2025 to potentially save Kevin O'Connell's job, it ain't the

kid. He was a project. When people said that he was going to draft him at 10, you're like, Really? This dude who barely threw the ball and then he threw a couple beautiful balls during the preseason and it was great but this isn't about making friends. This is about winning football games and saving Kevin O'Connell's job and Aaron Rodgers plus Justin Jefferson is a double digit win team in my opinion. So you take the bad with the good and the good is still there especially behind that offensive line. So I know it's not perfect but it's the better of both in my opinion. It's an interesting take. It is an interesting take. And look, if the Vikings decide that A-Rod gives them the better chance of winning,

like you say, and that's more important than developing their first round quarterback and potentially even resulting in them trading him, a la Trey Lance before he ever, Trey Lance had some opportunities. But before JJ really gets a chance to show stuff, I mean, look, perhaps, perhaps that's the outcome that comes. We will all be watching that on the edge of our seats. Of course. Look, Kevin, I'm not gonna make you talk about this conversation. You've been living and basking in the glory of Lamar Jackson all these years. So I am gonna ask you when we come back to

talk about the fact that Lamar Jackson not gonna be part of quarterbacks to instead, possibly the most boring lineup of quarterbacks to ever be filmed for a Netflix documentary. We'll talk about that coming up next on this week's NFL Squad, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team, every day. The NCAA Tournament is here and so is the bracket breakdown. Locked On Podcast Network and Amazon Fire TV channels are teaming up to deliver NCAA

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following three NFL quarterbacks around the 2024 NFL season. And we're going to see all the drama that unfolds behind Jerry Goff of the Detroit Lions, Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Bengals and Kirk Cousins of the Atlanta Falcons. Listen, no disrespect to any of these guys, but the combined personality between those three guys equals Taylor Heinecke, I believe. So that's to say I don't cover any of these quarterbacks. I'm not going to be watching this series. Sorry, Netflix. It's not my job to pump your product. Kevin Ostreicher locked on Ravens. Lamar Jackson, not on this list. Is that more a Netflix decision, more a Lamar Jackson decision? And how much do you hate this lineup or am I just off base here?

No, I mean, for Lamar, it's definitely more of a Lamar decision, I'm sure. I mean, Lamar is not one to go and do these things. He's not, you know, even media wise, you know, he doesn't really do a ton of interviews. He's kind of more on the private side of things So, you know if he was approached by Netflix and has to do this I'm sure he probably declined which is a surprise to nobody here in Baltimore and it kind of is what it is But I think you're right David where it's like the Joe burrow drama or whatever that would have been tail would have been the Jamar T Higgins situation that's already resolved I mean, I guess you can do kind of the aftermath of that. With Kirk Cousins, I guess the draw is will he get traded or not? But what if

he's just sitting on Atlanta's bench and like nothing happens with that? And I guess they're kind of betting on him going somewhere or having a situation unfold. And then for Jared Gough, it's kind of like, yeah, the Lions are good. They had a disappointing end to the season, but like, are there other storylines that you can that you can kind of forge from that? I guess there can be. I mean, I just wish they would have put a camera with George Pickens and followed him around all off season. Like that's what I would want.

Right. Well, so Cody before we went live or before we hit record, I think it was Cody. It was either Cody or Alex mentioned or drew the connection between the last time Netflix did this quarterback docuseries and another Falcons quarterback Marcus Mariota, who I love by the way. I've got to know Marcus Washington. Great dude. Super happy that he's back. Can't wait to see him in person again. However that season did not go well for him in Atlanta and here's her cousins

Atlanta. I mean, you know, look, Michael Pennex Jr. If you're hearing this or agent or family or friend or someone who just has him on Twitter, do not do this rock. This here's do not ever do this here's but I do think you know, because I'm going pretty hard at Netflix. I think there is a point here to be made that I was gonna say, what do they ever do to do this and the teams have to agree to do. I just like talking trash. The teams and the players have to agree to do this. So, you know, just because your favorite quarterback isn't on here doesn't necessarily because like Jayden Daniels, there's no way even if they asked no way he was going to do this either. So you know,

there's a limit of who's available and who's willing. Cody, I do want to ask you this though of the three and actually let me let me let me stop real quick. Did we see Jared golf on something wasn't a hard knocks maybe? Well, he was like mini golfing with his girlfriend. So it was like a Ransby wife. Yeah, those ramps. Anyway, mini putt shack thing outside of his house. Yeah, it was more than unsalted popcorn. Um, all right. But Cody, let me ask you this. Uh,

if not quarterbacks with this lineup, what else could be could Netflix have tried to do? Oh, go with cornerbacks, go with the defensive position. I think cornerbacks are defensive linemen. Those guys have personalities and I felt like in the cornerback game, it would have been fun for them to fall around at certain, uh, Derek Stingley. Would you want to follow around sauce garden? I mean, obviously I think that would have been appealing, but that I would have tuned in for that because these guys talk the most trash though. I would say Pat Sertan doesn't talk trash really. He's really a quiet guy, but Stingley would be an energetic personality. Sauce Gardner certainly would be in that regard too. Defensive line, those guys have the best personalities I feel like on

any team. You know, always have the funny guys there. I just don't find the appeal like, I think Joe Burrow will be great in this. I'm not really interested in hearing about Kirk Cousins. We already got to see Kirk Cousins already in this show. We got to learn a lot about Kirk. I don't really care too much about Jared Goff. Like what are we going to learn about Jared Goff that we don't already know? Like I understand teams have to agree to it, but there have been far like Josh Allen.

Would Josh Allen have agreed to it? Maybe, maybe not. I know Lamar Lamar would have been a polarizing figure But for me, it's this just doesn't move the needle and I understand you got to do it But there's better options out there Unfortunately, uh not a big fan of this and I think Joe burrow is probably gonna steal the show But I think this will probably underperform in terms of how people view it Yeah, I mean I mean Joe burrow especially with the Bengal season going out

What like to get a little bit behind the scenes with him and all that stuff, maybe that, that can certainly be interesting as well. Again, the teams also have to approve what gets aired and what doesn't and all that. So that there, there's that little bit of a- Don't hate whenever allow it. Jared Goff, I mean, of all the white guys

doing big things in Detroit, he's the least of them that I want to see on my Netflix screen. Alex Plants, you got any other ideas for for what the for Netflix could do for the series? Yeah, tight on you, baby. I mean, they're like the NFL, like the crazy part about them, like George Kittle does it with a smile because he's so good at football. Like there's a, there's a confidence there that's not cocky.

It's not, he's a child playing football and it's the craziest thing. Like you think Even in years past with Gronk and Jimmy Graham at his height like right end is like it's the most The specimen you need to be to play tight end in the NFL. You're an NBA player You know, who's playing football and you're getting tackled by or trying to be tackled by very large men So I would say that I mean and with Kirk Cousins It's like it's like getting Sam Bradford on with his over-sized uniform and shoulder pads. It's Thor War.

Like he never got that right. It's like, I don't get it. I don't get it. But yeah, I think tight end would be super fun. I would love to see Sauce, Marlon Humphrey, all those guys that like, because I think there's real rivalry between those guys. Like the brotherhood of the tight end is there, wide receiver. There's no rivalries anymore really. But with CB, it's

who CB won. And I think that would have been fascinating to fall around all those guys too. Yeah, man. And you mentioned Kittle. I mean, Kittle was on the Netflix receiver series. I would love to see Kittle again, like do a tight end you Netflix and bring Kittle back on. Honestly, you use the same footage again. I wouldn't even care. I would still watch it. Like that was just entertaining. I mean, the other tight ends be though,

like Kelsey would obviously be one, but yeah. I mean, I would love like from like a sentimental sample, like Zach Ertz, like the redemption story and all that stuff. Like, I don't know how, you know, but like I don't know if the general NFL audience would love that as much. There's certainly tight ends around there that you could follow around. What, ours? Like there's more star power in the tight end group than there's been.

I mean, Travis Swift. I mean, Travis Swift is a well-known player there in Kansas City. Mike Debate, you got any ideas here? Where should Netflix pivot? I mean, this quarterback thing is happening, but where should they pivot if they could pivot? I kind of like Alex's thought process of going with tight end. You look, I covered Rob up here for a number of years. Rob Gronkowski is a reality TV show. Anybody that's been around him knows that just take a camera, follow that guy around. You're going to find that. And I do think there are personalities in this league that can step into that, but you want to get guys that are flamboyant.

You want that opportunity to tune in week after week to pigeonhole yourself into a positional group could be problematic. I think if you're going to do that, Cody makes the best suggestion. I think cornerbacks right now are very intriguing. Look, not to play the Homer card once again, but Christian Gonzalez doesn't get a whole lot of press for being the type of cornerback that would be must-see TV. I can tell you from speaking to other corners throughout the league, a lot of trash talking

that comes out of Christian's mouth. You don't expect it, but it's sneaky. And something like that could be intriguing for fans that don't get a chance to see these guys interact and really that rivalry back and forth. So anything that shows off any bitterness in the NFL, I think would be must see TV. They got to play the bitter card in order to be able to draw people in.

I don't see this quarterbacks to class doing that. Joe burrow, like you said, can put on a master class in terms of quarterback play, but I don't see that from the other two right now. I don't think this is going to do as well as Netflix is open right now. Yeah, look, usually you hear Omaha and good things happen afterwards this time. I'm afraid it's probably going to be a big swing and a miss, but this episode of NFL squad has been a lot of fun.

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