Locked On Titans - Daily Podcast On The Tennessee Titans - Tennessee Titans MUST HAVE Draft Trade Package, Best Draft Trade Partners & No Veteran Players Back

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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The Tennessee Titans absolutely must get a future first round pick back if they trade down from number one overall. I'll tell you what those trades should look like on today's edition of Locked On Titans. You are Locked On Titans, your daily Tennessee Titans podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to the Locked On Titans podcast. I am your host Tyler Rowland Titans fans on today's edition of the Locked On Titans podcast.

We're going to look at the Tennessee Titans trade down options. If the Tennessee Titans do trade down from number one overall, I have a baseline of what that trade should look like and what the Titans should be getting back. We'll also dive deeper into who the trade partners could be for the Titans and what their individual trade packages should look like. And then finally, I'll tell you why I do not want any veteran players back in any of these potential draft trades. Before we dive into all of it though, thank you for making Locked on Titans your first listen each and every day. Remember Monday through Friday, Tennessee Titans content all year round, always for free. You're not going to beat that anywhere else.

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all the possibilities. You're not going to be a more informed Tennessee Titans fan than if you're watching this podcast. So with that being said, let's talk about this trade down for the Tennessee Titans. So obviously a lot of people out there in the fan base want the Titans to take Abdul Carter or take Travis Hunter or take Kam Ward or take Cheddar Sanders with the number one overall pick. But I feel like a majority of Tennessee Titans fans do want the Titans to trade down. I think the majority of Titans fans are smart enough to look

at this roster and realize that the best thing that could happen for the Titans is to have patience trade down, acquire as many picks as possible and then build the roster, which is exactly what allowed the Tennessee Titans to turn into a contender for a few years from 2019 to 2021. It was because of that trade down with the first overall pick in 2016 with the Rams that set the Titans on a path to have enough picks to add enough players to the roster to turn the Tennessee

Titans around. Now you could say the Titans had a quarterback in place at that time in Marcus Mariota. I would argue that the reason the Titans turned into a contender wasn't because of Marcus Mariota at quarterback. It was because the roster was so good. And as a matter of fact, the proof is in the pudding. The Titans didn't turn into that contender until they replaced Marcus Mariota. So to me, it had much more to do with the Titans trading down from number

one overall in 2016 than it had to do with Marcus Mariota being already on the roster. I don't, I don't think that you can make that argument in my opinion. So you look at the best team that we've seen from the Tennessee Titans in the last 20 years, it happened because of a trade down. So again, I think a lot of logical Tennessee Titans fans look at the roster, look at where the Titans are at here. Chad Brinker say that they want 12 top 100 picks in the next three years here. Mike Borganzi say that, you know, draft picks are your primary, uh, ammo.

All of these things, the Tennessee Titans, new leaders are telling us is that they value draft picks. They value as many as they can possibly get. They come from Kansas City. They come from Green Bay, especially with Chad breaker, who are all about collecting as many picks as they possibly can. Look, the draft is hard. I think all of us, if we're honest, acknowledge the draft is hard.

I know that I'm not always right about what I think these guys are going to do out of the draft. John Robinson was a professional general manager in the NFL and he made countless mistakes. So even the people who are considered experts, how we Roseman is the best general manager in the NFL, right? Well, he drafted Jaylen rager over Justin Jefferson. You know what I mean? Like the San Francisco 49ers build great teams. Well, they traded up for Trey Lance at number three, you know what I mean? Like the San Francisco 49ers build great teams.

Well, they traded up for Trey Lance at number three, you know, Kansas city took Clyde Edwards, a layer, a layer in the first round, you know, even the best of the best make mistakes. So if the draft is a crap shoot and even the best of the best in the world mess up, wouldn't it be better to have as many swings as possible? That's the general philosophy here. So to me, if the Titans do make a trade down, which is what I would like to see them do, there has to be a baseline for what that trade will look like.

There has to be the Titans have to get this at minimum. And to me, for any trade down for the Titans to be worth it, they have to get these four things. These four things. They have to get the first round swap this year. So if the Titans traded with the Giants, they need to get pick number three. If they traded with the Raiders,

they need to get pick number six. They need to get this year's first round pick. They need to get a day two pick this year, whether that be in the second round or the third round. They need to get a first round pick next year and then a day two pick next year. So those are the four things that is the absolute baseline. Any trade, any draft trade for the number one overall pick in the draft, any trade whatsoever has to include those four things. This year's first round pick, cause we're going to swap.

You get 1.1. I get whatever pick you have in the first round this year. I want a day two pick in the top 100 day two is the second and third round. So I went a top 100 pick next year. Remember the Titans don't have a third round pick. So your first this year, a day two pick this year, your first next year, and a day two pick next year. That could be this year's first, next year's first, a third rounder this year, and a third rounder next year. Again, that would be the bare minimum, the bare minimum that I would need the Tennessee Titans

to get back for any trade to be considered a great trade in my opinion. So that's my bare minimum there. And pretty much every team that the Titans could trade with starting with it, again, I don't think the Cleveland Browns are making a trade this year. Guys, it's funny because Cleveland needs a quarterback.

The Sean Watson's terrible. The Sean Watson's not the answer in Cleveland. The Browns need a quarterback, but they're fans for the most part. There are Brown's fans that want quarterback, just like there are Titans fans. But the majority of Cleveland Brown's fans want the Tennessee Titans to take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter or trade down themselves. The Browns are having the same conversations we are. So I don't think that the Cleveland Browns are trading up to number one overall.

That's not happening. So I start with the giants at number three. And again, that would be the shortest trade pick wise that the Tennessee Titans could make going from number one to number three. But again, even with that short of a trade, I'm going to need a first round pick this year. I'm going to need a first round pick next year.

I'm going to need a day two pick this year and a day two pick next year. And that is the bare minimum for me. Any trade that the Tennessee Titans make from number one overall down at all has to have at least those four elements to it. Period. Or I'm not going to be, you know, maybe there's a trade out there that I'll say, oh, that was good. But there is no great trade down that doesn't include those four things.

Even at number three with the Giants. But the Giants aren't the only team the Titans can trade with. There are multiple options high in the draft that could look to jump up and get a quarterback. I'll go over those options, why they would be looking at jumping up to get a quarterback, and what exactly those trades should look like with those teams. And then I'll tell you at the end of the show why I don't want any of your veteran players in a trade down. of your veteran players in a trade down. Do want to let you guys know that today's episode is brought to you by LinkedIn jobs.

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Make sure you get subscribed. Stay subscribed. It's your team every day. But obviously we start where we were just having our conversation at before. And that's the New York Giants, the New York Gi giants. And I want to address this really quick. So I see people say, why would the New York giants? Want to trade up for either of these quarterbacks if the Titans don't like these quarterbacks?

Why would the Browns or the Giants or whoever? Why would any of these quarterbacks, if the Titans don't like these quarterbacks, why would the Browns or the giants or, you know, whoever, why would any team want to trade up and get one of these quarterbacks if the Titans don't like the quarterbacks, the Titans need a quarterback. So wouldn't that mean that the other teams wouldn't pay as much or wouldn't be interested? Why would they do that? If the Titans don't want them, why would that?

That's not how it works. Plain would that? That's not how it works. Plain and simple. That's not how it works. Not everyone is on the Tennessee Titans timeline. Brian Dable and Joe Shown from the New York giants. They cannot afford to not get a good solution at quarterback this off season. They, they simply cannot afford that based on where they're at in their timeline with their job security. Mike Borganzi isn't

getting fired in one year. That's not happening. Maybe Brian Callahan gets fired, but Brian Callahan isn't in charge. Joe Schone will be fired if he doesn't go out and find a solution to the quarterback position this year, especially after the Saquon Barkley humiliation, and especially after the Daniel Jones contract, the giants are not in the same position as the Tennessee Titans. So if the Tennessee Titans say, Hey, we can be patient. We don't need to draft a quarterback number one overall. That doesn't mean that the giants will be less likely to want to move up

and get their quarterback. I don't agree with that philosophy at all in any way. Same thing. The Cleveland Browns, they may be patient, but Andrew Barry after the Deshaun Watson situation and the Browns cratering last year, he's on the hot seat. Kevin Stefanski is on the hot seat. They cannot afford to not consider doing anything.

So to me and the Las Vegas Raiders, they just went out and got Pete Carroll. Can they be patient at the quarterback position? Pete Carroll is the oldest coach in the NFL. The Saints, the Jets, they just hired win now coaches who want to win right now. Who's general managers, the Jets got a new general manager so maybe not them, but the Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has been around for a while. So I'm just saying just because the Tennessee Titans don't want one of the quarterbacks and are willing to trade down Does not mean that those quarterbacks hold any less value to other teams who are in different timelines and different situations than the Titans

So with that in mind again If the New York Giants come a, there was a draft trade recently. And here's how I like to do it. We can look at the draft calculators. We can look at the Jimmy Johnson chart. We can look at the Fitzberg's, uh, the Fitzgerald Spielberger chart. You can look at any trade chart you want.

You know what the best trade chart to look at is previous trades in the NFL. That is the best thing to go off of. And you go to 2018 and Sam Darnold, the New York Jets traded up from number six to number three. So that's three spots. They gave up pick number six, pick number 37,

pick number 49 and a second round pick in the next year's draft. So they gave up their first rounder and three second round picks. And I have seen people say, well. We've never seen. A three spot jump result in a first round pick in a future year. But here's what I would say to that. When the jets traded up for Sam Darnold, the Colts had two second round picks that year, they had picked 37 and pick 49. Well, the giants, the Raiders, the jets, the Saints, none of them have two second round

picks in the top 50. So you can't replicate that. So since you don't have two second round picks this year, I want a first round next year instead of a second round next year. It's simple. None of the teams have two second round picks in the top 50. So without that as a possibility, I'm going to need a first round pick next year. Also, the Colts or the Jets traded up from six to three.

Well, the number one overall pick costs more than the third overall pick. Sam Darnold was the second quarterback taken that year. Number one overall pick costs more than the third overall pick. Sam Darnold was the second quarterback taken that year. Baker Mayfield was one. Well, the fact that there aren't a lot of good quarterbacks in this draft class, that means that whoever you think is the best quarterback, they're worth more than Sam Darnold, who was the second best quarterback. So number one costs more than number three.

The number one quarterback taken costs more than the second quarterback taken. And none of the teams the Titans can trade with have two second round picks. So the Titans need a first round pick in 2026 from the New York Giants to drop back to number three. So from the Giants, I'm going to need pick number three, pick number 34 in the second round, and next year's 2025 first rounder,

and then a third round pick next year. If they want to do pick number three, next year's first round pick and two third rounders their number 65 this year and their number in their second round or next year switch that up. I'll do that. I'll do pick number three pick number 65 a first round pick and a second round pick next year. I'll do that or I'll do pick number three, pick number 34, a first round pick this year and a third round pick next year. I'll do either of those combinations

for the New York Giants and that is based on the historical trades that we've seen before. Now go even further down that. What about the Las Vegas Raiders at number six? Well, that's a six spot jump, right? That's a six spot jump. And that's sort of comparable to what the Bears did when they traded back to number nine with the Panthers to let Panthers come up and get Bryce Young. And the Bears got pick number nine, pick 61 in the second round that year. DJ Moore, who was worth a second round pick, a first round pick in 2024 and a second round pick in 2025 for nine spots for the number one quarterback. So if the Titans are going down six spots, they're not going to get quite as much as that,

but I want pick number six. I want next year's first round pick. I want your second and third round pick this year. The Bayers went back nine spots. They got a first rounder, a second rounder, DJ Moore worth a second rounder. So two second rounders, a first next year and a third second in 2025. They got three second round values and two first for nine. So I want pick number six, a second, a third this year, 37 and 68.

And the Raiders still have pick number 73. So that's why I think the Raiders would do it because they have two third round pits. So give me your second round pick, pick number 37, pick number six, one of your third round picks, whether it's 68 or 73, and then next year's first. And you can move up to pick number one and get your quarterback of the future. What about the Jets? The Jets are one pick behind the Saints. The Raiders don't have a quarterback at all. The Jets are parting ways with

Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Glenn is going to want to win now with a lot of win now pieces. They need to either get a quarterback high in the draft or sign Sam Darnold maybe. But if I'm going down to number seven, it's going to be very similar to number six. I down to number seven, it's going to be very similar to number six. I want pick number seven. I want pick number 42. I want pick number 92. I'll take 20 picks less because it's one spot less, right? And then I want a first round pick next year. If you don't want

to give me your third round pick number 92 this year is the jets. Then I want pick number seven, pick number 42, a first round pick next year and a second round pick next year. You have the option either give me your third round pick this year or give me your second round pick next year to go along with your second this year and your first and your first next year. It's that simple. I'm going from seven to number one overall. And then finally the New Orleans Saints. The Saints pick it pick number nine. So of course I'm going to look for a similar trade to what the Bears got for the number one pick from

the Panthers. Is Cam Ward worth as much as Bryce Young? Maybe not, but there was C.J. Stroud in that draft. There was Anthony Richardson and Will Levis in that draft. There aren't as many good options in this year's draft. There's Cam Ward and Chedur Sanders. There's nobody else worth a first round pick. So you're going to have to pay more more because the limited resources remember econ 101 econ 101 supply low demand high high price supply low demand high high price so from the Saints if they want to move up from nine, I want number nine. I want pick number 40. They have 71 and 93.

I'll take 93. I want a 2025 first, and I want a third round pick next year too. Or 2026. I keep saying 20, 25, when I'm talking about next year. My brain's having trouble dealing with the time change off obviously, but So if I'm going to number nine, I need number nine number 40 number 93 Next year's first and next year's a third simple Like the Titans can't just trade down for nothing.

They have to trade down and it'd be worth it. If not, take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, who are significantly better than any of the other non quarterback prospects. So give me what I want or you get nothing. It's that simple. But with that being said, none of the trade packages that I talked about include a veteran player. You know why?

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For your second listen, check out Locked on NFL. I host Locked on NFL for the Locked on Podcast Network. So I'd appreciate your support over there. But with that being said, I know that there's some people, this is going to be incredibly controversial. I get that. Some people are not going to like this. They're going to disagree. They're going to tell me to keep an open mind.

You never know. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, cool. I get it. I do not want any veteran players back in a trade. I saw a mock draft recently. We might go over it on Monday, quite honestly, but I saw a mock draft recently. They had the Titans trading down to number nine with the Saints, but Derek Carr coming

in the package. And it was like, uh, pick number six or pick number nine, pick number 40, Derek Carr and a second round pick next year or something like that. Derek Carr getting a third round value in that trade. That's everybody saying, look at Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, you know, a lot of quarterbacks that have been traded recently that were still starters at the time we're going for like third or fourth round pick. So that's probably the right value.

You could say Derek Carr is worth about a third round, fourth round pick. All right, great. But here's the thing I want Derek Carr and free agency for the Titans. I am not willing to give up draft capital or sacrifice the draft capital. I would be getting back for Derek Carr. In my mind, if you do that trade, you're doing that trade and you're getting everything you got back for the number one pick, and then you're looking at it as, Hey, I traded a third, instead of getting a third round pick back, I traded for Derek Carr, the Tennessee Titans should not be trading any

draft picks for veteran players. This team is not ready to win right now. They shouldn't be accepting DJ Moore in a trade. They shouldn't be looking to make a trade with the Browns and get miles. Get miles. Garrett is never coming to the Tennessee Titans. He told a Titans fan that Mr. Titan, uh, told a Titans fan in a Dallas airport.

Why would I come to you guys? You haven't built anything. Miles Garrett isn't coming to the Titans and there are going to be veteran players out there. Why would they feel, why would they want to come to the Titans either? And more importantly, why would the Titans want that? Why would you trade instead of getting a third round pick from the jets? Why would you take back Aaron Rogers and pay his full salary for the year and sacrifice a third round pick. Why would you do that with Derek Carr? Why would you do that with, you know, oh gosh,

think of a player, you know, um, Marquez Valdez Scantling for the Saints or, you know, like go to the Jets, like CJ Mosley, you know what I mean? go to the Raiders even Max Crosby Max Crosby is an awesome player one of my favorite players in the whole league I like Max Crosby out of Eastern Michigan. He was one of my favorite edge rushers in that draft I tweeted him all the time Please go to the Titans. I Love Max Crosby, but if the Titans got Max Crosby right now Why would he feel he's in a different situation?

than the raiders The titans need to get as many draft picks as they possibly can to get rookie contracts They need to get rookies and develop young players on rookie contracts who they can turn in the stars They can draft and develop again to me me this whole conversation is about patience and expectations Some of you guys are like the Titans. I expect them to go out and win a bunch of games this year My expectation is not the Titans are gonna win a bunch of games this year My goal for the Titans isn't that they win a bunch of games this year I don't care if the Titans win six seven eight nine get I don't the Titans need to draft

when six, seven, eight, nine, get, I don't, the Titans need to draft good young players that they can add to this roster to build it into a contender in a couple of years. My expectations for the Titans could be different next year, but this year my expectations are incredibly low and my only hope is that the Titans start building a roster with young players that they can develop that are cheap that allow them to turn this into a competitive team. None of the players that the Titans could trade for fit the timeline of this football team. So I don't want any veteran players, any veteran player. I don't want Max Crosby. Give me two first round picks. I don't want Derek Carr. Give me a third round pick. I don't want Aaron Rodgers. Give me a third round pick.

You know, I would take Rodgers and Carr on the free agent market. That's been my plan, but any transaction that would give the Titans a player instead of a pick, I'm against any realistic one. Anyway, if the Titans get, you know, CJ Stroud, sure, we'll make the trade. You know what I mean? Jaden Daniels, I'll make the trade. You know, there's obviously not a blanket statement, but realistically speaking the players that would be available in a trade like this. I don't want any of them.

I'd rather have the requisite value in draft picks. This team needs to build. Everyone needs to be patient and a trade down is the best way to do it. And the trades that I've outlined today are the trades that the Titans need to consider. But with that being said, make sure that you get subscribed, stay subscribed. That's gonna do it for me today, folks.

As always, I am your host, Tyler Rowland, and this was Locked on Titans. Thanks for watching guys!